Indonesian Human Cases Oct 20-Nov 2, 2007

[Gert van der Hoek]

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More on the girl in Lampung Hospital.

http://www.lampungpost.com/cetak/berita.php?id=2007103100003120

Lab results from Jakarta (nose, throat and blood samples) are expected in 5 days, monday november 5 .

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Bird flu: Other the Patient 'Suspect' Treated
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Banda Lampung (Lampost): the Public Hospital of Abdul Moeloek (RSUAM) again treated the patient suspect bird flu, on Tuesday (30-10).
Silka (2.5) was treated in RSUAM isolation space because of being suspected of contracting the virus avian influenza.

The patient was the daughter of the couple Rita (25) and Ibrahim (30), the resident Street ****, Tanjungraja, of Kecamatan Tanjungraja, Kotabumi, Lampung Utara.

She was run off with to RSUAM after the previous day, on Sunday (28-10), experienced the fever and breathless. The temperature of his body achieved 38 Celsius levels.

The reason for the temperature of the high and breathless body will never recover, they brought Silka to Dr. Herison in Tanjungraja.

Because medical equipment was not yet complete, this doctor reconciled him to RSUAM.

According to Rita, three days before his child was feverish, his three property chickens died suddenly.

In their village in Tanjungraja indeed was carried out by the extermination of the poultry by the official of Livestock Breeding of the Service because of bird flu. These poultries were burnt and buried by the official because infected by the bird flu virus.

"In our village was having the extermination" of the "poultry by the Livestock Service," he said.

In a frightened manner his child was contaminated by poultries that infected by bird flu, they brought Silka to RSUAM. " I was frightened my child held the chicken that was sick bird flu and was contaminated," she said.

To confirm whether this patient was infected by the virus H5N1, the RSUAM side afterwards tested the laboratory by taking the sample swab the nose, the throat, and blood.

The laboratory test was carried out in laboratorim belonging to Balitbang Kesehatan Jakarta (Lab Nat Health Service.ed). Results of the laboratory will be known five days afterwards or on Monday (5-11).

 

[Gert van der Hoek]

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Name of the boy from Tangerang in the DetikNews report:

Bocah Positif Flu Burung Dibiarkan Bermain dan Jalan-jalan

Positive Kid Ignores Bird Flu, Plays and Wanders About

on 31 Oct 2007


more: http://detik.plinplan.com/2007/10/31/bocah-positif-flu-burung-dibiarkan-bermain-dan-jalan-jalan/

The Positive child Bird Flu was left Playing and Wander About

detik@plinplan 31 of Oct 2007

Jakarta - the parents of Soleh Alfaruq claimed to be his child in the healthy condition. Although his child was stated positive bird flu, this Tangerang resident stayed playing as usual.

“ Alhamdulillah (Thank God, ed) healthy, my child did not have the cough equally hot ,” your mother's words were pious, Muslimah, when being contacted pertelpon (by telephone,ed) , on Wednesday (31/10/2007).

Moreover according to him, the child of one of his puppets has played with the neighbour around. “ While was considered to be bird flu, was brought by me came home, the person he was not sick anything ,” more Muslims.

Muslims also admitted to not having the doctor who monitored the condition for his child. Moreover his medicine also no longer was drunk.“ Progress- the day before yesterday has the doctor now already was not again.

His child also already did not want to take medicine ,” more the wife Muhamad Rasul this.

During detikcom contacted around struck 13,45 WIB, Soleh was according to the acknowledgment of Muslims being brought went to the stall by his father.
“Child I am well, already recoverd,” he stressed again.

In the meantime positive results infected by bird flu was received from the inspection of Litbangkes Department of Health.

Soleh left RSPI Sulianti Soeroso after being treated 16 hours since striking 01,00 WIB, on October 27 2007.

For reasons of the family's pressure, the RSPI side permitted this patient to go out.

It should be that after results of the inspection showed the new negative the patient was permitted to come home.

 

[Shannon Bennett]

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The last post was disturbing on so many levels.

The child played with other children, despite our knowledge that kids are virus factories and continue to manufacture the virus after they appear to be well.

The child refused to be monitored after leaving the hospital.

The child refused the medicine. We can only hope the parents forced the patient was forced to finish the series. For of course, this is precisely how drug resistance occurs.

 

[Treyfish]

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I'm not liking that last story one bit Never saw a patient recover so fast,go home and play with whatever he wants,refuse meds..:surrender:Some thing is not right with this picture.

 

[Gert van der Hoek]

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Must admit the boy is not treated according to the protocol, to put it mildly.

He was a (next door?) neighbour of Dewi Aprilliani, who died oct 22, was tested positive on oct 23 . After this the neighbours, contacts were checked and tested, so the boy could be on Tamiflu from oct 23.

The boy was stated positive on oct 27 and was in hospital for half a day.

He went home, being "the new negative patient" (see last sentence). He was tested negative, after being positive, must be because of (early) Tamiflu?

If you are tested negative, you cannot shed a lot of virus anymore?

 

[Treyfish]

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</TD></TR><TR><TD colSpan=2>JAKARTA (AFP) - The parents of a three-year-old Indonesian boy infected with bird flu have defied hospital orders that he stay in isolation and taken him home, a hospital official said Wednesday.
The boy from Tangerang, a satellite city west of the capital Jakarta, stayed in hospital for just half a day last Saturday, said Sardikin Giriputro, deputy director of Sulianti Saroso hospital.
"We had no choice but to let the boy leave the hospital as his parents insisted on taking their child home," Giriputro told AFP.
He said a patient should remain in isolation until a test showed the infection was over.
Doctors wanted him to remain in isolation to ensure there would be no possibility of human-to-human infection, he said.
Giriputro added that the boy was under home observation by medics from a health centre in Tangerang and Wednesday's report said that his condition was improving. The mother of the boy, Muslimah, told the online Detikcom news agency however that he was in good health and medics only visited initially. "At the beginning, some doctors came here, but they haven't come anymore... My son has recovered, he's now in good health. He isn't taking medicine anymore," she was quoted as saying.:tiphat:
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http://www.brunei-online.com/bb/thu/nov1w5.htm

 

[Gert van der Hoek]

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Related to post # 109

The Patient diagnosis Suspect AI Slip of the Pen?

Regent Bharata Regretted...

Gianyar (Balinese Post) -

The discovery of the patient RSU Sanjiwani, Gianyar that was treated especially in the ICU room because of being expected suspect bird flu (AI), got the denial from the RSU Sanjiwani side.

The article produced by the diagnosis of the most notable medical team clear to the plank of the patient's diagnosis was said by the slip of the pen. He said that only for vigilance from the medical side in handling the patient that terbaring limp in ICU space.

The denial was sent by the Managing Director RSU Sanjiwani Dr. I Made Sarmadi, on last Wednesday (31/10).

Now Chairman Tim of the AI Control that at the same time the doctor who handled the patient, Dr. Putu Wardana, Sp.P., togethered with the team's other member, Chairman Keperawatan RSU Sanjiwani Wayan Suteja, Diskes Dr. Pande Werbuana, Infokom and Kesbanglinmas also were present in this opportunity.

Dr. Putu Wardana said the patient who was handled by him only suffered the illness bronco premoneu (BP), as well as TB milier (the positive TB) that beforehand had been treated in RSU Sanjiwani.

The patient Ni Nyoman Putri from Tegallinggah, Blahbatuh, beforehand had been treated in RSU Sanjiwani last Saturday (13/10) by having a temperature that did not descend-descended was accompanied in an inflamed manner the lungs.

After that two days were afterwards carried out x-rayed, his condition improved, that afterwards even became TB milier. From results of the further research even clearly headed to TB milier with the liver complication.

After healthy, the patient could ask to come home and to afterwards return again to RSU Sanjiwani some time before, he explained.

In connection with results of the diagnosis, Dr. Wardhana said was not it was mentioned suspect bird flu in his diagnosis note.

Concerning the existence of the article in the plank of his patient's diagnosis about the illness that was suffered, among them Bronco Premoneu (BP), as well as TB Milier and suspect bird flu, Dr. Wardhana only fell silent.

Discussions were shifted by the Managing Director RSU Sanjiwani to the Keperawatan Wayan Suteja Committee.

Wayan Suteja explained that the existence of this article for internal privation. In this case, for vigilance from the medical team towards infectious diseases that were experienced by the patient.

That was the protection of the official towards the illness of menular, '\ he said that afterwards by the Managing Director Sarmadi personally this matter was acknowledged as the slip of the pen.

Regent Gianyar A.a.g. Agung Bharata that also was present in this meeting ask for so that protocol the writing of the plank of the diagnosis in RSU Sanjiwani more careful.

At first still was related to the problem of the form image.

The Regent was Agung Bharata also really regretted this matter, at first again until was known by the outsider.

http://www.balipost.com/balipostcetak/2007/11/1/b22.htm

Many thanks to bgw in MT

 

[Commonground]

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From #126:

Giriputro added that the boy was under home observation by medics from a health centre in Tangerang and Wednesday's report said that his condition was improving

This is the report from the medics. No specifics. Just "improving".

 

[Gert van der Hoek]

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Another child in Batam suspected to have bird flu?

2007 , november 1

Expected by Bird Flu (Two Children Hot High)

After so many for a long time subsided, rumours of bird flu evidently not was not again in this area.Even, his threat was increasingly serious and frightening.

Proven, one family in Tiban III currently very worrying the condition a member the family him that did not recover-recovered after his body experienced hot suddenly.

The sign is, was similar like the sign of the bird flu illness. FI (6), the name of his child.

Currently laying down limp in the house because experienced was sick that was not yet it was known certain his cause. In fact, already almost his week suffered the illness.

When Batam News visited his house yesterday, to be precise in the Nangka Tiban III Village, apparently FI was in his mother's sling. His body was also seen thin.

Increasingly his body day increasingly kurus,\\\said Jon, parents Fi.
Jon that at that time was accompanied by his wife claimed very worrying the condition for his child.

Although beforehand he has brought took medicine to the Daerah Public Hospital (RSUD) the Batam City, but his condition did not yet have the change.

Even increasingly the day was increasingly worrying.

If the night, Fi had difficulty sleeping and only often cried, because his body heat was uncertain. \\\Sometimes, we who touched his body also whether how. Really hot,\\\said Jon.

The family's concern then increased again because since being sick Fi could not eat. Every time ate, he experienced was sick on the throat.
Moreover, the drinking water then sometimes could not enter.
If drinking, Fi felt hurt.

Fi experienced the condition like that already almost a week more.
Since last October 25, his body was suddenly sudden hot, to the end was not found medicine healer him.

That made this family confused, whether by chance or indeed will have his connection, tomorrow him two chickens belonging to Fi also were found died suddenly.

\This that made us worried,\said the man who only worked as a waste-taker that.

The chicken that died at that time also appeared on his mouth to go out blood, was similar like the affected chicken bird flu.

In front of his house, around four metre from the house, one chicken coop has indeed appeared to be damaged. Previously, they maintained five chickens there. However now, that remained only other, after two tails died.

Fi indeed played him usually here.
Around the house, he not to which- what,\\\\\\\obviously.
Since his two chickens died suddenly, Jon admitted, his memory was directed to the case of bird flu.

However, he kept and convincing not the illness that fell on his child.
However, not that, that made him again surprised, two tails more afterwards appeared limp, also wanted to die.

\\\\\\\the official's Profit came to give medicine, the chicken at once was strong and now does not know again his position in what,\\\\\\\obviously him again.

The plan is, the Jon family will bring FI took medicine to RS Otorita Batam today (on Thursday, 1/11).

Was based on information that they knew, in this hospital has had the implement that cured bird flu.

\Hopefully my child did not get the bird flu ,\explained Jon.

Just several days since FI was reconciled to RSOB, Widya (9) also was suspected of becoming casualties was expected (suspect) bird flu and could be treated in RSUD Batuaji.

The student of one of the PRIMARY SCHOOL schools in Tanjungriau at once enters maintenance space of the child on October 27 that day.

From information in the field mentioned, Widya had been sick since several tails of the chicken belonging to his parents died suddenly.

Widya has not for a long time been treated in RSUD and immediately was reconciled back to RSOB.\we will not yet have the maintenance of the illness like that (bird flu),\obviously the RSUD Baruaji Head, Dr Nenden Siti lunar MKes, yesterday.

\the Incident was at once reported by us to the Kesehatan Service.
We found the existence of the child that be hit by suspect bird flu, he said. (Batam News)

http://beritabatam.blogspot.com/2007/11/terduga-flu-burung-dua-bocah-panas.html

 

[Commonground]

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Excellent Tracking Dutchy!

 

[Commonground]

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So, they are taking FI to RSOB on November 1st?

The plan is, the Jon family will bring FI took medicine to RS Otorita Batam today (on Thursday, 1/11).

 

[Commonground]

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Sorry to keep posting, I'm just slightly confused, but's it's early in the day....

Just several days since FI was reconciled to RSOB, Widya (9) also was suspected of becoming casualties was expected (suspect) bird flu and could be treated in RSUD Batuaji.

The student of one of the PRIMARY SCHOOL schools in Tanjungriau at once enters maintenance space of the child on October 27 that day.

I have Widya Adm: 10/30. Recon: Sagulung Hosp.

So....Widya was reconciled from RSUD Batuaji. Maybe she/he entered RSUD Batuaji on 10/27, in maintenance space. The only thing that's troubling me is, it says "several days since FI was recon to RSOB". Does 2 days constitute using the word "several"?

 

[Gert van der Hoek]

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Translation of the word sejak

since, from, as from

translation of beberapa :

some, several, a few.

 

[Anne]

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SILKA :3 years old boy
local press : the onset of illness was the 22 october
WHO : onset the 14 october

I don't understand

 

[Commonground]

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Wonderful AnneZ.
I've got, from the press, onset of symptoms as 10/26. Most likely from the very first article I saw.

 

[Gert van der Hoek]

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SILKA :3 years old boy
local press : the onset of illness was the 22 october
WHO : onset the 14 october

I don't understand

I do not know a Silka, I know a Soleh, the boy who was taken home by his father?

Website Dep of Health has hardly any details, no date onset.

Website KOMNASfbpi has onset ont oct 22

Dewi the neighouring girl who died on oct 22, had onset on oct 14;

Samples were taken from family / neighbours / direct contacts, Soleh was stated positive on oct 26.

http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=106442#post106442

We must assume WHO has the right information?

 

[Commonground]

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AnneZ, I think you may be getting Silka (Lampung) mixed up with Soleh (West Java)?

Here is where I got my info, Post #121. I now realize I read it wrong. I read 3 days before his child was feverish. Not true. Symptoms began on 10/28.:

Banda Lampung (Lampost): the Public Hospital of Abdul Moeloek (RSUAM) again treated the patient suspect bird flu, on Tuesday (30-10).
Silka (2.5) was treated in RSUAM isolation space because of being suspected of contracting the virus avian influenza.

The patient was the daughter of the couple Rita (25) and Ibrahim (30), the resident Street ****, Tanjungraja, of Kecamatan Tanjungraja, Kotabumi, Lampung Utara.

She was run off with to RSUAM after the previous day, on Sunday (28-10), experienced the fever and breathless. The temperature of his body achieved 38 Celsius levels.

The reason for the temperature of the high and breathless body will never recover, they brought Silka to Dr. Herison in Tanjungraja.

Because medical equipment was not yet complete, this doctor reconciled him to RSUAM.

According to Rita, three days before his child was feverish, his three property chickens died suddenly.

 

[Anne]

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hum : escuse me; I was speaking about soleh

http://www.vnanet.vn/Home/EN/tabid/119/itemid/220389/Default.aspx

Indonesia confirms 111th human bird flu case

29/10/2007 -- 8:13 PM

Jakarta (VNA) ? Indonesia confirmed on October 29 that a three-year-old boy hospitalised in Jakarta two days ago was the 111th human bird flu case in the country.

The boy from Tanggerang, a satellite city just west of Jakarta , first showed flu-like symptoms on October 22.


and WHO : 14 october.

the boy went back home, and he don't take medicine
we can assume it's a ( rare) middle form of H5n1 flu.

 

[Commonground]

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Oh! I see what you're saying. Well we must assume that WHO is correct, right?

 

[Sally Furniss]

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Home Isolation to the Patient Bird Flu not the Problem

Jakarta (the Media): was related to repatriation had S, age pre-schoolers four positive years bird flu by his family, the Department of the Health stated S will receive the maintenance of the isolation in his house

http://www.media-indonesia.com/cetak/berita.asp?id=2007110201183853

Home Isolation' pada Pasien Flu Burung tidak Masalah
JAKARTA (Media): Terkait dengan pemulangan paksa S, balita usia empat tahun yang positif flu burung oleh keluarganya, Departemen Kesehatan menyatakan S akan mendapat perawatan isolasi di rumahnya (home isolation).