Growing atypical pneumonia cases in Puebla

[Vibrant62]

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I think that (as illustrated by the primary H1N1 outbreak) anything is possible, and all options must remain open until proven otherwise. As such, TPTB need to be investigating why so many tests for flu (when it is clearly flu or atypical pneumonia) are coing back negative.

If there has been a change or a virus drift that is taking hold, then the sooner the world is aware of it, the faster we can start to get countermeasures in place - i.e adjust vaccines, or test to see if there is cross immunity etc

 

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From several above posts, including:

http://impreso.milenio.com/node/8652262

He said that it has been shown that seasonal flu can mutate influenza AH1N1 if not given appropriate care.

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Apparently, some official did make this statement, which has been in several articles. This is nonsense. First, there is little to no seasonal flu now circulating. Secondly, seasonal flu does not mutate into Pandemic H1N1 - they are two separate viruses.

 

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http://impreso.milenio.com/node/8652542

In the second week of October recorded the highest peak in the spread of influenza
Se incrementó en 100% la atención de pacientes: INER It increased by 100% patient care: INER
De las 81 personas hospitalizadas, sólo 24 se encuentran en terapia intensiva Of the 81 people hospitalized, only 24 are in intensive care

2009-10-06•Política 2009-10-06 • Politics



El personal del instituto utiliza cubrebocas, guantes y gel para evitar contagios. The institute staff will wear masks, gloves and gel to prevent contagion. Fotos: René Soto Photos: René Soto
El Instituto Nacional de Enfermedades Respiratorias estima que a partir de la segunda quincena de octubre se registrará el pico más alto de contagios por el virus de influenza A/H1N1, por lo que pondrá a disposición de los enfermos más de 60 por ciento de sus camas, en sus dos pabellones asignados, el tres y cinco. The National Institute of Respiratory Diseases estimates that from the second half of October will be recorded the highest peak of infection by influenza A/H1N1 virus, as made available to patients more than 60 percent of their beds in its two pavilions allocated three and five.

Rogelio Pérez Padilla, director general del INER, explicó que desde hace unos días se ha incrementado en más de ciento por ciento la solicitud de atención de los pacientes sospechosos o con síntomas de neumonía. Rogelio Perez Padilla, general director of INER, explained that since a few days ago has increased one hundred percent over the application of care for patients with suspected or symptoms of pneumonia.

De recibir 30 o 40 personas, en agosto y finales de septiembre, en cuestión de algunos días, pasaron a más de 100 personas que a diario solicitan a atención médica, y dentro de dos semanas la cifra se elevará a más de 120 diarias. Receiving 30 or 40 people in August and late September, in a matter of days, rose to more than 100 people daily seek medical attention, and within two weeks the numbers will reach over 120 daily.

Por lo mismo, dijo, el INER cuenta con un total de 176 camas, y contempla en breve sumar a las 81 que actualmente están siendo ocupadas por enfermos otras 30 a efecto de atender de manera adecuada a los pacientes por parte de las 250 enfermeras y 60 médicos disponibles. By the same token, he said, INER has a total of 176 beds and provides soon add to the 81 currently being occupied by patients 30 to effect other adequately address patients by 250 nurses and 60 doctors available.

Inclusive, con las autoridades sanitarias del Gobierno del Distrito Federal y otros institutos de salud tienen programado movilizar a los pacientes que no estén intubados o graves a otras unidades con mayor disponibilidad, para evitar la saturación de los servicios médicos. Even with the health authorities of the Federal District and other health institutes are scheduled to mobilize patients not intubated or serious to other units with higher availability, to avoid saturation of medical services.

“Nosotros sólo estamos viendo la punta del iceberg de esta pandemia, y si nos están llegando tantos enfermos esto quiere decir que en el país hay muchos enfermos”, aseveró "We're just seeing the tip of the iceberg of this pandemic, and if we are reaching many patients this means that the country many are sick," said

Pérez Padilla refirió que el INER, en este rebrote del virus de influenza A/H1N1, ha recibido prácticamente el doble de los pacientes que ingresaron durante la primera ola de contingencia de abril y mayo, que oscilaba en 45 y, la única diferencia es que la mortalidad hasta el momento ha sido menor. Perez Padilla reported that the INER in this outbreak of influenza A/H1N1 virus, has received almost twice as many patients admitted during the first wave of contingency in April and May, ranging from 45 and the only difference is that mortality has so far been minor.

Por ello, de las 81 personas hospitalizadas, provenientes principalmente del área metropolitana, sólo 24 se encuentran en terapia intensiva e intubadas, en estado grave. Therefore, of the 81 people hospitalized, primarily from the metropolitan area, only 24 are in intensive care and intubated in serious condition.

No obstante, aclaró, que la cifra de personas graves podrá elevarse a 35, lo que significará utilizar la totalidad de sus respiradores artificiales, aunque esperan, en breve, que haya una dotación extra de 20 ventiladores. However, he clarified that the number of serious people can be increased to 35, which will mean using all of their ventilators, but expect, soon, there is an extra allocation of 20 [ventilators].

“Desde el inicio de la pandemia hasta la fecha han fallecido en el INER 24 personas, casi todas en el primer brote, y esto tal vez obedece a que acuden más rápido a los servicios de salud. "From the beginning of the pandemic so far have died in the INER 24 people, almost all in the first outbreak, and this may be related to faster attending health services. Ahora la tercera parte de las personas intubadas fallecen, sino es que la mitad de las mismas”, acotó. Now a third of people die intubated, but is that half of [what it was earlier], "he said.

Pérez Padilla precisó que resulta aún impreciso cómo se va a comportar el virus en plena época invernal, ya que en algunas personas resulta altamente agresivo aun cuando acudan de inmediato al médico. Perez Padilla said it is still unclear how the virus will behave at the height of winter, because in some people it is highly aggressive even when they go to the doctor immediately.
“Lo que preocupa es que no sabemos hasta dónde va a llegar, porque, por supuesto, todos los sistemas de salud del mundo, pues tienen un límite y lo que nos inquieta es que se nos rebase, hasta el momento no ha sucedido, pero estamos muy concientes de que estamos ante una pandemia y eso si puede suceder”, dijo. "The concern is that we do not know where to come, because, of course, all health systems in the world, have a limit and what disturbs us is that we exceeded so far has not happened, but We are very conscious that we have a pandemic and that if it can happen, "he said.



Los respiradores artificiales los usan los pacientes graves. The ventilators are used by seriously ill patients.
Un aspecto que llama la atención, es que dentro de las 24 personas graves, 12 corresponde a gente, de 18 a 50 años, previamente sanas, sin factores de riesgos como obesidad, asma, enfermedades crónicas y degenerativas A striking aspect is that within the 24 serious, 12 is for people 18 to 50 years, previously healthy, with no risk factors as obesity, asthma, chronic and degenerative diseases

Hay varios factores, dijo, que pueden incidir desde una tardanza en la atención, mal diagnósticos, hasta predisposición y susceptibilidad. Several factors, he said, since any delay can impact on care, wrong diagnoses, and susceptibility to bias. “El virus tiene potencial de daño grave en personas previamente sanas y eso es innegable”, refirió. "The virus has the potential of serious injury in previously healthy people and that is undeniable," Vazquez said.

El INER invierte 3 mil pesos diarios en atender a una persona intubada y en terapia intensiva, y la cantidad disminuye hasta en 600 pesos cuando se trata de un internamiento temporal. The INER 3 thousand dollars per day spent caring for a person in intubated and in intensive care, and the number decreases to 600 pesos when it is a temporary custody.

- Claves - Keys

Arranque en EU Starting in the U.S.

• El gobierno de Estados Unidos comenzó a vacunar a doctores, enfermeras y otros trabajadores de salud en Indiana y Tenesí contra el virus de influenza A/H1N1. • The U.S. government began to vaccinate doctors, nurses and other health workers in Indiana and Tennessee against influenza A/H1N1 virus.

• Los envíos de esta semana son tan pequeños que, con la excepción de algunos niños, la mayoría de los estados han reservado las vacunas para los encargados de salud, con el fin de que puedan mantenerse suficientemente sanos para atender a los enfermos de influenza ya su vez vacunen a otras personas. • Shipments of this week are so small that, with the exception of some children, most states have reserved the vaccine for health managers, so they can stay healthy enough to care for influenza patients and turn vaccinate others.

México • Blanca Valadez Mexico • Blanca Valadez

 

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http://www.conexionenlinea-unioncam...iratorios-agudos&catid=57:municipio&Itemid=69

MALES UP AREA FOR ACUTE RESPIRATORY
Martes, 06 de Octubre de 2009 08:17 Mariana Fernandez Tuesday, 06 of Octubre 2009 08:17 Mariana Fernandez
-ISSSTEP listo para atender, consultar y diagnosticar al p?blico en general que sufra de alg?n mal respiratorio -ISSSTEP ready to meet, consult and diagnose the general public suffering from any respiratory illness

-Adem?s de los problemas por influenza o neumon?a at?pica, estacionaria o bacteriana se atender?n todos los padecimientos relacionados con las v?as respiratorias -In addition to problems from influenza or atypical pneumonia, [whether] bacterial [or seasonal viruses] will attend all complaints related to respiratory

PUEBLA, Pue.- Como Hospital, tenemos el deber, por normatividad, de atender a cualquier persona que venga con alg?n padecimiento respiratorio, sobre todo una urgencia, se?al? el director general del ISSSTEP al poner en marcha el ?rea de urgencias para enfermedades respiratorias agudas, que entr? en servicio el pasado fin de semana ya la que acudieron en dos d?as 130 pacientes adultos y 70 menores de edad. PUEBLA, Pue .- As Hospital, our duty, by regulations, to meet anyone who comes with a respiratory ailment, especially an emergency, said the director general of ISSSTEP to implement the emergency department for acute respiratory diseases , which entered service last weekend and attended by 130 patients two days in adults and 70 children.

Esta ?rea fue rehabilitada en el antiguo edificio del ISSSTEP, donde funcion? como urgencias antes de ser inaugurado el Hospital de Especialidades "5 de Mayo". This area was restored in ISSSTEP old building, which functioned as emergencies before they opened the Hospital of "5 de Mayo". Este espacio fue reabierto por recomendaci?n de la Organizaci?n Mundial de la Salud y de la Secretar?a de Salud Federal, a fin de dar atenci?n especial a pacientes con problemas respiratorios y que no se mezclen o contaminen con otro tipo de padecimientos. This space was reopened as recommended by the World Health Organization and the Federal Ministry of Health, to give special attention to patients with respiratory problems and are not mixed or contaminated with other ailments.

En esta ?rea, derechohabientes y no derechohabientes del ISSSTEP ser?n recibidos, consultados, diagnosticados; se iniciar? su tratamiento y, si es necesario, permanecer?n en observaci?n, para determinar su situaci?n de salud, sin pasar al hospital y cuenta con 32 camas para atender pacientes con males respiratorios agudos. In this area, beneficiaries and heirs of ISSSTEP not be received, accessed, diagnosed, your treatment will begin and, if necessary, will remain under observation to determine their health status without going to the hospital has 32 beds to serve patients with acute respiratory disease.

Hasta el memento se han atendido a 200 personas, de los cuales 199 presentaban molestias leves, por lo cual fueron auscultados y retornados a su domicilio y permanece en atenci?n un paciente que ya esta siendo atendido. Until the memento to have followed 200 people, of whom 199 had minor discomfort, for they were auscultated and returned to his home and remains [one] patient [in] care that is already being served.

El personal m?dico y de enfermeras para esta ?rea se aumentar? o estabilizar?, de acuerdo a la demanda del servicio que se prev? sea mayor en este fin de a?o e inicio del 2010. The doctors and nurses for this area shall be increased or stabilized, according to service demand is expected to be greater in this new year and beginning of 2010.

Adem?s de los problemas por influenza o neumon?a at?pica, estacionaria o bacteriana se atender?n todos los padecimientos relacionados con las v?as respiratorias. In addition to problems from influenza or atypical pneumonia or bacterial stationary will attend all complaints related to the airways.

Con esta ?rea se tiene un nuevo "brazo" del servicio de urgencias del Hospital de Especialidades "5 de Mayo", para atacar males respiratorios agudos. This area has a new "arm" of the emergency department of Hospital de Especialidades "5 de Mayo" for acute respiratory disease attack.

 

[Rwilmer]

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The CDC needs to investigate NOW.

 

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A repost of an earlier story that I believe had gotten misplaced (i.e. not in this thread).

http://impreso.milenio.com/node/8652262

Call SSA not to minimize federal atypical pneumonia
Informó que a este padecimiento se le debe poner la misma atención que a los pacientes con influenza AH1N1. He reported that this condition should be put the same attention to patients with influenza AH1N1.

2009-10-06•Puebla 2009-10-06 • Puebla

María de Jesús Hoy Gutiérrez, directora de vigilancia epidemiológica de la Secretaría de Salud Federal, llamó a las autoridades sanitarias, a las instituciones de salud pública ya los servicios médicos privados a no minimizar el repunte en casos de neumonías atípicas e Infecciones Respiratorias Agudas Graves (Irasg). Today Maria de Jesus Gutierrez, head of epidemiological surveillance of Federal Health Ministry, called the health authorities, public health institutions and private medical services not to minimize the surge in cases of atypical pneumonia and acute respiratory infections Graves ( Irasg).

Y es que informó que existe un repunte en los casos mortales en todo el país, que deben ser analizados a profundidad por las autoridades sanitarias en los estados a fin de controlar el problema, esto al asegurar que la “virulencia” de la influenza AH1N1 está estable. And they reported that there is a spike in fatal cases across the country, which must be analyzed in depth by health authorities in the states to control the problem, this to ensure that the "virulence" of influenza is AH1N1 stable.

La funcionaria federal, al visitar el estado para ofrecer una conferencia magistral sobre “La Situación Actual de la Epidemia de Influenza AH1N1 y su Perspectiva”, indicó que se debe poner igual atención a la Influenza Estacional, las Irasg y las neumonías atípicas, y brindar la misma atención médica de calidad que se da a los enfermos de influenza AH1N1. The federal official, visiting the state to provide a lecture on "The Current Status of the Influenza Epidemic AH1N1 and Perspective", said that one must put equal emphasis on seasonal influenza, the [acute respiratory infections] and atypical pneumonias, and provide the same quality care given to patients AH1N1 influenza.

Refirió que se ha comprobado que la influenza estacional puede mutar a influenza AH1N1 si no se le da los cuidados necesarios, y de ahí la importancia de vacunar a la población vulnerable (niños y ancianos) para aminorar la propagación del virus, pero también –dijo– la epidemia ha evidenciado que es el sector productivo el más afectado con la pandemia. He said that it has been shown that seasonal flu can mutate influenza AH1N1 if not given appropriate care, and hence the importance of vaccinating vulnerable people (children and elderly) to reduce the spread of the virus, but also said - the epidemic has shown that the productive sector is most affected by the pandemic.

Por lo anterior, refirió que a nivel federal se cambiaron los modelos de vigilancia epidemiológica para las enfermedades respiratorias. Because of this, said that at the federal level changed models for epidemiological surveillance for respiratory diseases. Explicó que en lugar de contabilizarse los casos de AH1N1, se está trabajando en ofrecer más y mejor atención e información. He explained that instead of recorded cases of AH1N1, is working on offering more and better care and information.

Informó que actualmente la epidemia de AH1N1 registra un nivel de afectación a la salud del portador de sólo 0.2%, y sólo 1 de cada 3 sospechosos son positivos a la enfermedad, mientras que apenas el 10% son casos graves. He reported that currently AH1N1 epidemic shows a level of impact the health of the bearer of only 0.2% and only 1 out of 3 suspects are positive to the disease, while only 10% [of the cases] are severe.

Puebla • Guadalupe Gálvez Puebla • Guadalupe Galvez

 

[yielddude]

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alert, re: "seasonal flu can mutate influenza AH1N1 if not given appropriate care"

maybe he meant seasonal could recombine with pandemic, and create a new strain. Though pandemic is dominant, perhaps both could inhabit an individual for a long enough period to combine and mutate?

 

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alert, re: "seasonal flu can mutate influenza AH1N1 if not given appropriate care"

maybe he meant seasonal could recombine with pandemic, and create a new strain. Though pandemic is dominant, perhaps both could inhabit an individual for a long enough period to combine and mutate?

I believe the person who made that statement is a politician and not a doctor, so I believe your statement (which makes much more sense) is far above his pay grade . I think he meant exactly what he said, and is wrong.

Keep in mind that the Spanish has an "into" there that Google missed: mutate into H1N1...

 

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Not Puebla, but more atypical pneumonia in Mexico.

http://www.diariosinsecretos.com/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=14151

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Mil 134 casos de influenza A H1N1 en Hidalgo Mil 134 cases of influenza A H1N1 in Hidalgo Diariosinsecretos/6 de Octubre 2009,Pachuca, Hidalgo.-El Director de Relaciones Sectoriales de Salud Pública del Diariosinsecretos / 6 October 2009, Pachuca, Hidalgo.-Sectoral Relations Director of Public Health Estado, Israel Mendoza López informó que desde que apareció el primer brote de influenza AH1N1 a la fecha son 37 State, Israel Lopez Mendoza reported that since it first appeared AH1N1 influenza outbreak to date is 37 muertes las registradas en Hidalgo de un total de mil 134 casosde los cuales 726 ocurrieron del primero de septiembre Hidalgo those recorded deaths from a total of 134 thousand casosde which 726 occurred the first of September al corte de este fin semana. the court this weekend. Refirió que 17 de las defunciones se registraron en el mes patrio, tiempo en el que se incrementó el número de casos al He said that 17 deaths were recorded in the month of country, time in which increasing numbers of cases to 40 por ciento, los cuales han sido atendidos y vigilados por la Secretaría de Salud. 40 percent, which have been attended to and supervised by the Ministry of Health. Mendoza López detalló que además a la escuela primaria Siglo XXI de Pachuca, “se le ha hecho la recomendación Lopez Mendoza explained that in addition to primary school in Pachuca Siglo XXI, "has been made the recommendation de suspender sus clases, donde aún se está por definir si es grupal o parcial, debido al ausentismo que se registró de to suspend their classes, which is still to be determined if a group or in part, due to absenteeism was recorded in los escolares, así como de un profesor que presentó sintomatología por el virus A H1N1”. schoolchildren and a teacher who presented symptoms of the H1N1 virus. Por su parte, el director del Hospital General de Pachuca Francisco Chong Barreiro, informó que en el nosocomio se For its part, the director of the General Hospital of Pachuca Francisco Barreiro Chong, said the hospital was tienen registrados 9 fallecimientos en los últimos 15 días por enfermedades respiratorias y neumonía atípica, las cuales have recorded 9 deaths in the past 15 days due to respiratory illnesses and atypical pneumonia, which aún faltan por confirmar si se trató por el virus A H1N1. yet to be confirmed whether it was the H1N1 virus. Agregó que el jueves 1 y el viernes 2 de este mes falleció una niña de cuatro años y una de seis que llegaron al hospital He added that on Thursday 1 and Friday 2 this month passed a girl of four years and one of six who arrived at the hospital entre el cuarto y sexto día de su padecimiento, y desafortunadamente fenecieron. between the fourth and sixth day of his illness, and unfortunately perished. Explicó que hasta el momento en el Área de Oftalmología, una área de reserva para personas con problemas de He explained that so far in the field of ophthalmology, an area reserved for persons with impaired influenza, se tienen hasta el momento seis pacientes, “quienes requieren de ventilación mecánica, que es una influenza, have so far six patients "who require mechanical ventilation, which is a terapia intensiva, de los cuales tres están entubados y todos son adultos”. intensive care, of which three are intubated and all are adults. " En el área de quinto piso del hospital,hay siete pacientes aislados considerados como estables con problemas In the area of fifth floor of the hospital, seven patients isolated with problems considered stable respiratorios agudos y de A H1N1, “los cuales se encuentran en tratamiento” Acute respiratory and A H1N1, "which are treated" En el hospital, se están recibiendo 60 pacientes diarios en el área de emergencia, de estos, 8 a 10 tienen probables At the hospital, 60 patients are being received daily in the emergency area, of these, 8 to 10 are likely [upper respiratory infections]. infecciones altas en las vías respiratorias.

 

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OK. This might be bad. Here's a case diagnosed as influenza, treated with antivirals (Tamiflu?), but the antivirals didn't work. And now her daughter (7yr old) was hospitalized as well.

This is not in Puebla - it is in Tamaulipas.

http://www.enlineadirecta.info/nota..._Reynosa_¿Neumon_a_at_pica_o_influenza__.html


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Sigue psicosis en Reynosa ¿Neumonía atípica o influenza? [Continues] psychosis in Reynosa "atypical pneumonia or influenza?
30 Sep 2009(19:15:52) 30 Sep 2009 (19:15:52)


1 - ¡Lo cierto son los gastos! 1 - The truth is the expenses!

Anabel Rocha García/EnLíneaDIRECTA Anabel Rocha Garcia / EnLíneaDIRECTA

Reynosa, Tamaulipas.-Desde hace más de 10 días la familia Cruz Rivera ha hecho del Hospital General de Reynosa su segundo hogar, ahí duermen por las noches esperando ser llamados por los médicos para comprar más medicamento; el miedo a la influenza los hizo ir al médico varia veces a atenderse lo que parecía una simple gripe, en un inicio una y otra vez Lucero Rubí, una joven madre de 24 años fue regresada a casa con antigripales, la situación se complicó, el contagio a su hija de tan solo 7 años puso en duda el caso. Reynosa, Tamaulipas.-For more than 10 days the family has done Cruz Rivera General Hospital Reynosa your second home, sleeping there at night waiting to be called by doctors to buy more medication, the fear of influenza made them go the doctor several times addressed what seemed a mere flu, initially and over Ruby Lucero, a young mother of 24 years was returned home with [anti]-influenza [medicine], the situation was complicated, the spread to his daughter only 7 years questioned the case.

En un principio su camilla estaba etiquetada con “posible caso de influenza” hoy los análisis arrojan que se trata de neumonía atípica. At first his stretcher was labeled "possible case of influenza," Today's analysis shows that this is atypical pneumonia. Para Raúl Rivera Espinoza, esposo de Lucero la situación es la misma, la enfermedad puso en riesgo a su esposa e hija adoptiva, hoy su rutina ha cambiado, el pequeño negocio de mecánica lo cerró y vendió la poca herramienta con la que contaba, hoy solo hace cuentas y pide regrese pronto su esposa a casa sana y salva. For Raul Rivera Espinoza Lucero husband's situation is the same, put at risk the disease to his wife and adopted daughter, his routine has changed today, little mechanical business closed it and sold the little tool available to it today only makes accounts and calls his wife to return home soon safe and sound.

“Una caja de Dormicum y otra de Diprivan, esta vale 852 y esta 983 y son cuatro, en dinero vienen siendo como 5 mil pesos diarios y mire estas otras, estas valen 700”, señalaba Raúl Rivera con los medicamentos en mano, las cuentas y la preocupación de tener a su ser querido enfermo se notaba en su rostro y su vestir desaliñado. "A Dormicum box and one of Diprivan, this is worth the 983 and 852 and four, in money are being as 5 thousand dollars a day and watch these other, these are worth 700", said Raul Rivera with drugs in hand, accounts and the concern of having their loved one patient showed on his face and disheveled clothing.

Para que se dé una idea, en tan solo diez días Raúl Rivera Espinoza se ha gastado más de 30 mil pesos solo en medicamentos para su esposa e hija quien desde hace 10 días fueron internados en el Hospital general, afortunadamente la pequeña Tania Itzel ya fue dada de alta, sin embargo su esposa lucero permanece en el hospital . To give you an idea, just ten days Espinoza Raul Rivera has spent over 30 thousand dollars just in medicine for his wife and daughter who for 10 days were placed in the general hospital, but fortunately was small and Tania Itzel discharged, but his wife remains in hospital star.

¿Hasta este momento lleva contabilizado cuánto ha gastado? Up to this point has recorded how much you spent?

“Entre 30 y 40 mil pesos, desde hace 10 días”, refiere. "Between 30 and 40 thousand dollars, for 10 days," he relates.

Una de las quejas de Raúl Rivera es que por las noches el medicamento que solicitan los médicos en las farmacias es mucho más caro, incluso los precios suben hasta 50 o 100 pesos y dice que son los gastos los que han mermado en el ánimo de la familia. One complaint is that Raul Rivera at night seeking the medicine doctors in pharmacies is much more expensive, even the prices go up 50 or 100 pesos and says they are the expenses that have eroded in the minds of the family.

Hasta hoy, no saben cómo contrajo el virus, solo saben que en un inicio era una simple gripe, luego la situación se complicó y los últimos análisis revelan daño en un pulmón. Until today, do not know how he contracted the virus, just know that at first was a simple flu, then the situation was complicated and the latest tests reveal damage to a lung. Hoy la familia de Lucero pide ayuda de la ciudadanía para poder costear los gastos del medicamento, pues a este ritmo aseguran, temen no poder surtir lo necesario para su tratamiento. Today Lucero's family asks for help from the public to afford the costs of medication, because at this rate, they say, fear they can not take what is necessary for treatment.

La línea telefónica para tener mas información de este caso y donde puede dar ayuda es el 8991165883, pues temen que influenza o no le arranque la vida a esta madre de familia. The hotline to get more information about this case and which can help is 8991165883, fearing the flu or not starting life at this housewife.

 

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And back to Oaxaca. The "mixteca" are a pre-Colombian tribe that resides in and around the city of Oaxaca.

http://www.nssoaxaca.com/index.php/...undo-edil-de-la-mixteca-por-neumonia-atipica-

Second councilor dies of [atypical pneumonia] Mixteca
Written by Erika Lucero
Monday, September 28th, 2009 20:50
Huajuapan de Leon, Oaxaca .- The mayor of San Antonio Acutla died of atypical pneumonia in the hospital Pilar Sanchez Villavicencio this city after having been hospitalized about 10 days in the hospital, where doctors can not yet rule out that death gave cause human influenza AH1N1, that they are waiting for results by the official laboratory where the tests were sent.

The now deceased by the name of Eleuterio Santiago Rivera Reyes 50-year-old who came to this city to be served by a strong box which he developed flu-like [atypical pneumonia], which has not been determined whether it was acquired by the spread of influenza AH1N1 .

The days before his death the mayor of family visits was isolated by the critical condition where he was, according to unofficial sources commented that there was sufficient attention paid to attend this lung condition and results of the analysis to far have not come, so could not give the right doctor since they know the cause of pneumonia.

So far two deaths now number of councilors of the Mixteca in less than a week since last Monday the Mayor of San Miguel Tulancingo who answered to the name of Daniel Jimenez Rivera died of this disease and health authorities have not making known the results of the analysis to verify whether the president was infected by the virus AH1N1.

The residents of these municipalities ask the Health Services Oaxaca (SSO) which would reveal the results of both biopsy so they can take appropriate precautions as respiratory disease in these populations have increased by at least 30%.

 

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And the blue text is the MOTHER of a fatality, who says her daughter died of influenza, but the doctors called it atypical pneumonia. This is telling evidence of coverup...

http://www.enlineadirecta.info/nota.php?art_ID=107324&titulo=Pag__caro_dudar_del_virus_AH1N1_.html

Reynosa, Tamaulipas.-The cases of people suffering AH1N1 virus continues to increase, just in Tamaulipas thousand have been detected 283 cases, mostly in the southern state, though the collective psiociosis still making mischief, are many who go to hospitals and health centers in the town searching for answers to their symptoms that clearly coincide with the moral virus.

Many return to their homes and jobs, with recipes influenza in hand, others remain hospitalized but labeled "Possible Influenza" which are then replaced by "atypical pneumonia" as happened to the daughter of Rosalie Vera Olguin who after 10 days died fighting.

"Pay doubt expensive, on learning we intend to make a common front to help staff suffering from this disease, we remain drug that killed our daughter and then we were at the disposal of donating and then came out to claim the concern, and today my daughter's loss motivates us to look like trying to save lives that are in a similar situation "refers Olguin Vera.

Rosalio Olguin Vera who heads the Union of Veracruz to Reynosa asked whether the media who build on this front to provide them medication to families.

She said her daughter left to die in 3 children orphaned and therefore strive to ensure that this situation is not repeated so that the citizens requested more awareness and adhere to the preventive measures to avoid more deaths from influenza virus.

Finally include the death of Jasmine Martinez Olguin Veracruz daughter of the leader came after a respiratory arrest after the General Hospital determined that it was a pneumonia, Vera Olguin nevertheless considers, upon being transferred from Macallen Hospital in search of a better attention they established that it was influenza.

"The Macallen wanted to move, nurse determined that it was influenza, but unfortunately no longer could do anything after 10 days of symptoms and the disease was far advanced, had paralyzed bodies so unfortunately died," he said.

Today it is only Rosalio claim for lack of credibility about the virus so AH1N1 has already contacted several patients with influenza to help them get medicine and even though the death of his daughter's death was established as pneumonia today more than ever think it was influenza who took the life of his daughter just 34 years.

 

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Re: Growing atypical pneumonia cases in Puebla

OK. This might be bad. Here's a case diagnosed as influenza, treated with antivirals (Tamiflu?), but the antivirals didn't work. And now her daughter (7yr old) was hospitalized as well.

This is not in Puebla - it is in Tamaulipas.

http://www.enlineadirecta.info/nota..._Reynosa_¿Neumon_a_at_pica_o_influenza__.html


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Sigue psicosis en Reynosa ?Neumon?a at?pica o influenza? [Continues] psychosis in Reynosa "atypical pneumonia or influenza?
30 Sep 2009(19:15:52) 30 Sep 2009 (19:15:52)


1 - ?Lo cierto son los gastos! 1 - The truth is the expenses!

Anabel Rocha Garc?a/EnL?neaDIRECTA Anabel Rocha Garcia / EnL?neaDIRECTA

Reynosa, Tamaulipas . . .

Note that Reynosa, Tamaulipas, is directly across the border from McAllen, Texas.

 

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Re: Growing atypical pneumonia cases in Puebla

Two dead teachers. Sounds like H1N1.

http://translate.googleusercontent....le.com&usg=ALkJrhhxkHadikwrf_Vx3CNKxeHb4tFdWA

ACCUSED OF KILLING OF TEACHERS IN HIDE SINALOA The teachers union accused the Health Sector to conceal the death of two teachers of technical secondary schools in Culiacan and Guasave, Sinaloa, influenza, since in the death certificate identifies "problems of pneumonia" .

Jaime Qui?ones, secretario general de la Secci?n XXVII del Sindicato Nacional de Trabajadores de la Educaci?n (SNTE), indic? que se tienen datos sobre un n?mero muy alto de mentores que est?n contagiados y hospitalizados por el virus, por lo que se requiere que las autoridades de Salud reaccionen en su atenci?n. Jaime Quinones, general secretary of Section XXVII of the National Union of Education Workers (SNTE), indicated that data are available on a very high number of mentors who are infected and hospitalized by the virus, which requires that authorities Health react in their care.

 

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Re: Growing atypical pneumonia cases in Puebla

http://www.e-consulta.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=37730&Itemid=210

The rebound comes with strength AH1N1 E-Mail E-Mail
Carlos Flores Mancilla Carlos Flores Mancilla
mi?rcoles, 07 de octubre de 2009 mi?rcoles, 07 of 2009 of octubre



La hora pol?tica Time policy

La ciudadan?a lo soslaya y las autoridades sanitarias tratan de minimizar el problema para no generar p?nico . It circumvents Citizenship and health authorities try to minimize the problem to avoid creating panic. Lo cierto es que la pandemia del virus A H1N1 crece y rueda a velocidad exagerada por toda la geograf?a mexicana. The truth is that the pandemic of H1N1 virus grows and exaggerated wheel speed around the Mexican geography. El rebrote viene con fuerza y se acentuar? all? por el mes de noviembre. The resurgence comes with strength and will increase back in November. Lo peor, lo tr?gico es que a?n no hay vacunas para combatir el mal. The worst, the tragedy is that there is still no vaccine to combat [the illness].

Tratar temas de salud, en este espacio dedicado a abordar temas pol?ticos, no es casual. Addressing health issues in this space devoted to addressing political issues, not incidental. Nos sobresaltaron los comentarios vertidos, durante mesa de caf?, por un grupo de m?dicos especialistas en medicina interna y neumon?a. We jumped the comments made during coffee table, by a group of doctors specializing in internal medicine and pneumonia. Ellos, como jefes de departamento del sector salud y responsables del ?rea m?dica en hospitales privados, recibieron instrucciones para acondicionar el mayor n?mero de espacios para alojar a pacientes con s?ntomas del virus A H1N1 . They, like the department heads responsible for the health sector and medical field in private hospitals were instructed to put as many spaces to accommodate patients with symptoms of the H1N1 virus.

Advierten los especialistas que el rebrote del virus cobre, ya se siente, -los hospitales ya presentan saturaci?n-, pero cobrar? fuerza a finales del mes de noviembre cuando est? por empezar la temporada invernal. Experts caution that the virus outbreak copper, and feels, "the hospitals are already saturated, but will come into force in late November when the winter season to start. Mientras tanto, para estar preparados y cumplir con las indicaciones de la Secretar?a de Salud, ya se empezaron a acondicionar todos los espacios disponibles en cl?nicas y hospitales. Meanwhile, to be prepared and comply with the directions of the Ministry of Health, and began to put up all available space in clinics and hospitals. Vaya, se contempl? hasta los pasillos de los nosocomios. Well, she looked up the corridors of the hospitals.

Definitivamente no se trata de alarmar, comentaron los galenos, pero s? de que la poblaci?n haga conciencia sobre la gravedad de la pandemia y se tomen todas las medidas preventivas, pues de lo contrario el n?mero de pacientes, producto de contagios, podr?an rebasar la capacidad de atenci?n por parte del sector salud. Definitely it is not alarming, they said the doctors, but that people make awareness of the seriousness of the pandemic and to take all preventive measures, otherwise the number of patients, the result of contagion, may exceed the capacity of attention from the health sector.

El tratamiento del mal, en su fase inicial puede ser controlado y curado, pero cuando se convierte en neumon?a, la situaci?n se complica y el paciente se enfrenta a dos graves problemas: la muerte, pero si se salva, est? condenado tener una mala calidad de vida, por las graves secuelas de la enfermedad. The treatment of the disease in its early stage can be controlled and cured, but when it turns into pneumonia, the situation is complicated and the patient is facing two serious problems: the death, but if he escapes, is doomed to have poor quality of life, serious consequences of the disease.

Hasta el momento no han llegado las vacunas contra el mal . So far, no vaccines have gone wrong. Los primero ant?dotos que lleguen ser?n aplicados a m?dicos, enfermeras y todo el personal del sector salud que tenga trato directo con pacientes contagiados. The antidotes to arrive first will be applied to doctors, nurses and all health sector staff who have direct contact with infected patients. Mientras tanto, el cuerpo m?dico que atiende este tipo de enfermos, toma todas las precauciones, una de ellas, utilizando cubre bocas, batas, guantes y todas las medidas necesarias para evitar el contagio. Meanwhile, the medical staff attending such patients, taking all precautions, one of them, using covers mouths, gowns, gloves and all necessary measures to avoid contagion.

Los hospitales p?blicos y privados, seg?n cifras oficiales, registran hasta el momento 890 pacientes con esa sintomatolog?a y 5 muertes por el virus A H1N1 , pero de acuerdo con comentarios de los especialistas, el n?mero de enfermos y decesos es mucho mayor. The public and private hospitals, according to official figures so far recorded 890 patients with fevers and 5 deaths from H1N1 virus, but according to hotel experts, the number of patients and deaths is much higher. Puebla pas? del lugar 24 al 17 en n?mero de casos. Puebla has moved from 24 to 17 in number of cases.

Mientras el problema crece, nuestros pol?ticos ni por enterados se dan. As the problem grows, our politicians aware nor given. Su preocupaci?n es el poder, el dinero y el glamur. Their concern is power, money and the glamor.

SE DICE LO QUE DICEN THEY SAY WHAT THEY SAY

DIQUES .-Ante los diques, -ya son murallas-, que colocan sus adversarios pol?ticos, en el caminar de Blanca Alcal? Ruiz, para descarrilar su proyecto de construcci?n del viaducto elevado, cada d?a se aleja la posibilidad de que se haga realidad su "obra maestra". DAMS .- Before the levees, walls-are-who put his political adversaries in the journey of Blanca Alcal? Ruiz to derail his plans to build the elevated viaduct, each day that makes the possibility to fulfill its " masterpiece. " Para conseguir el financiamiento, el Ayuntamiento tiene que contar con el aval del Congreso del y Gobierno del Estado. To get financing, the City must have the endorsement of Congress and the State Government. ?Usted cre? que la alcaldesa va a contar con ellos? Do you think that the mayor will have them? Claro que no, cuando ellos mismos son los empe?ados en hacer abortar la intenci?n . Of course not, when they themselves are determined to abort the intention. ?El prop?sito?? "The purpose ...? Frenar su carrera en busca de la gubernatura. Curbing his race for governor. Lamentablemente la obra se ha politizado. Unfortunately the work has been politicized. El viaducto elevado ser?a un buen pasaporte para seguir su caminar pol?tico. The elevated viaduct would be a good passport to continue his political journey. . .

REUNIONES .-Trascendi? que Javier L?pez Zavala viene sosteniendo reuniones "ultra secretas" con el reci?n nombrado gobernador de Nuevo Le?n y con el diputado federal Javier Duarte, "delf?n" de Fidel Herrera, gobernador del Veracruz. MEETINGS .- Javier L?pez Zavala learned that holding meetings is "top secret" with the newly appointed governor of Nuevo Leon and U.S. Rep. Javier Duarte, "dolphin" Fidel Herrera, governor of Veracruz. Tratan de integrar un grupo de poder pol?tico fuerte, para imponerse a las decisiones de Beatriz Paredes, dirigente nacional del CEN del PRI. They try to join a group of strong political power to overrule the decisions of Beatriz Paredes, national leader of the CEN of the PRI.

BERRINCHE. -La comida del pasado viernes en un sal?n de la recta a Cholula, convocada por el mismo Rafael Moreno Valle Rosas, estuvo m?s que desangelada. Tantrum. "Dinner last Friday in a straight Hall of Cholula, called by the same Rafael Moreno Valle Rosas, was more than soulless. Cuentan quienes estuvieron en el evento que fueron ordenados 400 cubiertos con un costo de 200 pesos cada uno. They who were on the order 400 events were covered at a cost of 200 pesos each. Llegaron a la reuni?n s?lo 120 personas, de las cuales s?lo 80 pagaron su comida. Arrived at the meeting only 120 people, of which only 80 paid for their meal. Cuando lleg? el senador de la rep?blica y observ? la escaza asistencia, mont? en c?lera, medio comi? e inmediatamente se retir?, no sin antes rega?ar, -como ?l solo sabe hacerlo-, a los responsables de la organizaci?n. When the senator, noting The shortage assistance, flew into a rage, half ate and immediately retreated, but not before scolding, "as he alone knows how, those responsible for the organization.

FUERA .-Arturo Varela, hasta hace algunos d?as, Secretario de Organizaci?n del sindicato del IMSS a nivel nacional y originario de Cholula, fue destituido de su cargo. OUT .- Arturo Varela, until a few days ago, Secretary of Organization of the IMSS union at national level and a native of Cholula, was removed from office. Por cierto, dicen los enterados que Enrique Doger, invit? a Roberto Vega Galina, ex Secretario General del Sindicato Nacional del IMSS para sumarse a su campa?a proselitista. Indeed, insiders say that Henry Doger invited Roberto Vega Galina, former Secretary General of the National Union of IMSS to join his campaign. HASTA LA PROXIMA UNTIL THE NEXT

 

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Re: Growing atypical pneumonia cases in Puebla

Source: http://www.e-consulta.com/veracruz/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3399&Itemid=28

Google translation:

Increased maternal deaths due to influenza. Puebla with more deaths
By In?s Garc?a Nieto
Tuesday, October 13th, 2009

An Internet statement by the Epidemiology Division of the SS mentions the deaths of nine women per month as a result of pneumonia and influenza, and the letter stated that the August 19, 2009 there had been 682 maternal deaths.

He also claims that the problem is growing, in 2008 it was recorded and confirmed four deaths from the disease mother.

Why pneumonia or respiratory complications and does not mention that the patient died of influenza?

Was the question asked physicians IMSS de Orizaba, to the knowledge of the death of a pregnant teacher from the Technological Institute, a victim of the influenza virus.

A doctor asked that his name not commenting no knowledge of the case, yet contributed valuable data to reinforce hygiene measures as prevention citizen said .- "The influenza virus facilitates the entry of many other bacteria in the airways , so when the person dies it is said that complications due to pneumonia or acute respiratory "

As at 30 September 2009, the Health Ministry recorded 32 thousand confirmed 950 cases of human influenza in the population.

According to epidemiological system report of the General Directorate of Epidemiology of the SS, the states with most cases of maternal deaths due to pneumonia-influenza are Puebla, Tabasco, Veracruz, Hidalgo, Mexico City, Chiapas, Guerrero, Jalisco, Merida, Yucatan and the State of Mexico.

The health problem is greater when the patient is diabetic, has low defenses, HIV or cancer, suffer from liver problems, asthma, obesity, heart disease and for women in pregnancy.

Deaths according to age.

Deaths in 236 confirmed cases of influenza at 30 September 2009, the population aged 45 to 49 people have died by 14%. From 35 to 39 years by 11 percent. From 25 to 29 years has passed 10.6%. From 20 to 24 years 10.2%

And 50 to 54 years has died about 6 percent.

Maternal deaths, the vast majority who have not been settled because of the influenza virus, because the study more effective at the time, the RSP takes over 20 days to return to the Sanitary Jurisdiction they referred to the Infectious Diseases Race / National Institute of Epidemiological Reference (Indre)

At present health sector doctors rely on the diagnosis of patient symptoms, and in other cases with the "test" but is not reliable, according to professionals of the Indre.

The documentary broadcast on the Discovery Chanel on Friday, October 9 reported that the first two cases of swine flu were reported in March in California: "A new virus is present", adding:

In April 2009 the 60 percent of the population of La Gloria, Veracruz had symptoms of influenza. On 13 killed in Oaxaca, a victim of H1N1, a 39-year-name Adela Maria Gutierrez.

The growth of swine flu that makes the chair of WHO Margaret Chan that the world is on alert, affecting 74 countries.

Present in Cancun Quintana Roo, warns: "The outbreaks are cyclical, and therefore future epidemics can be more lethal than the longer view. The next winter, the emergence of a new virus is possible, therefore it is important that authorities and population, extreme preventive measures.

 

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That last article is damning with respect to severity of H1N1: In 2009 (thru 8/19) there have apparently been 682 maternal deaths due to P&I (although there might be an extra digit in that figure, as the article says that amounts to nine per month). In 2008, for the entire year, there were four.

 

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Re: Growing atypical pneumonia cases in Puebla

That last article is damning with respect to severity of H1N1: In 2009 (thru 8/19) there have apparently been 682 maternal deaths due to P&I (although there might be an extra digit in that figure, as the article says that amounts to nine per month). In 2008, for the entire year, there were four.

Need to see the actual statement they report on but it could possibly be read as - officially 9 deaths during pregnancy per month were put down to P&I (or maybe flu specifically?) but that in total there had been 682 deaths - presumably leaving a lot unexplained.

 

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Re: Growing atypical pneumonia cases in Puebla

Tuesday, October 13th, 2009

An Internet statement by the Epidemiology Division of the SS mentions the deaths of nine women per month as a result of pneumonia and influenza, and the letter stated that the August 19, 2009 there had been 682 maternal deaths.

He also claims that the problem is growing, in 2008 it was recorded and confirmed four deaths from the disease mother.

comment:
I infer from that statement that there were 678 more maternal deaths alone in Puebla than the previous year...so would that number added to the current Mexico H1N1 stats yield a total more in line with current US stats? If so, I'm wondering if there's similar increases of ILI's and secondary bacterial infections in pregnant women in the other states...then we'd see that Mexico may actually already have more deaths than the USA. Are other countries reporting increases in maternal mortality year-on-year vs longterm averages? If so, are those stats being collated and added to official tallies?

 

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It is absolutely clear that Mexico cannot (and isn't really trying to) count all its H1N1 deaths. Even the US is counting "P&I syndrome" deaths, as opposed to H1N1 deaths. As far as the actual statement in Spanish, it reads:

Un comunicado publicado en internet por la Dirección de Epidemiología de la SS menciona el fallecimiento de nueve mujeres por mes a consecuencia de neumonía e influenza, y el escrito precisaba que al 19 de agosto de 2009 se habían registrado 682 defunciones maternas.

which I translate as:

A communication published over the internet by the Authority of Epidemiology of the SS mentions the deaths of nine women per month as a consequence of pneumonia and influenza, and a document written on August 19 indicates they have registered 682 maternal deaths.

To me, that means that the 682 is the total number of dead pregnant women (from all causes, including non-infectious ones), and of those, about nine per month are due to P&I. Six hundred maternal deaths over six months in an entire state is not that surprising (from all causes). The four deaths in 2008 are due to P&I. I would estimate that this represents no more than 50 unreported H1N1 fatalities in Puebla (9 per month times 6 months of pandemic minus the four background P&I deaths). We really should expect that, as there should be no reason the death rate in Mexico should differ significantly from that in the US. But 682 unreported H1N1 fatalities in one state is not to be expected at this point.