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Discussion thread VI - COVID-19 (new coronavirus)

It's not crazy, Gert. I was talking to one of the young movers who were here this morning, and he said he thought the news was some sort of hoax at first, too. The only thing strange to me is how did he avoid infection for so long and then get it now? Is the virus getting more transmissible? Just more widespread? Greater contacts from campaigning?
No HCQ. Here's a letter about his protocol his doctor wrote:
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2020/10/trump-covid-treament.jpg?quality=90&strip=all

I wish the Trumps well along with everyone else who is ill with COVID or any of the other illnesses people are struggling with.
 
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they failed to protect him. They could have checked the contacts and we have (encrypted) telefone
video, internet,
 
gs
Use anything of mine as you like - just make it clear I am no academic or expert and everything I write is based on my understanding of what I have picked up and should be fact checked like everything else on the internet. Like you I am learning all the time and these conversation help. North American deer mice (studied because they are host species for Hanta virus) are a potential reverse-zoonosis reservoir spices like the mink. Thanks for the links I will have a look when I have time.
 
hat tip Emily


A screen shot of the protocol:


presidentdrugs.PNG
 
I'll post it in an extra thread in your workroom, so it isn't lost in a long discussion thread.
You can still edit it /add,correct.
I also just found Drosten-podcast #58 with 4 pages about immunity, cross-reaction to
seasonal Corona, which I translated to English. I will post that too (unless copyright problems)
They had talked about it before ... you can cearch the webpage for keywords (in German)
https://www.ndr.de/nachrichten/info...-Folgen-als-Skript,podcastcoronavirus102.html
this is less detailed, for the general non-medical,non-biochemical,non-virological audience
 
gs
FYI A science journalist has very kindly been providing TWiV with expanded bullet points, in English, from Christian's Das- Coronavirus podcasts. https://www.microbe.tv/das-coronavirus/
The paper being discussed https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.09.15.20188896v1.full.pdf looks at the accumulation of relatively broad acting low avidity T-Cell accumulation with age. The mechanism by which B cells produce antibodies (and a very similar mechanism in T-cells although they do not release their antibody equivalent protein but retain it trans-membrane) is one of the great marvels of evolutionary biology and a fascinating study in its own right.
 
Edit - Sorry I see you have thoroughly covered this in the thread highlighted in your post above. However, will leave this comment here for others who might want to follow Sharon's link above.

The addition of dexamethasone is interesting. As I understand it this is best reserved for patients receiving oxygen or other respiratory assistance, the concern being that the anti-inflammatory effects need to outweigh the potential suppression of the immune response. See https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2021436
 
photoshopped?

- notice the circled bits, those "reflections" are they even possible? How could you seen the reflection of the pen through the paper but not the paper, also the hand through the book but not the book, wouldn't those be occluded.

https://twitter.com/LoganSunn/status...336256/photo/

(sorry, I do not know how to post a photo)
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The White House released photos of Trump working in hospital that critics say appears to be a publicity stunt

https://www.businessinsider.com/trum...ritics-2020-10
 
I have no idea. I am sure that there is some organized messaging going on. However, the President is rumored to be a work nut. i.e. his hobby is working. I think a way to take his mind off what is going on is to probably do his usual - which is working on something. I think we learn more about his condition from what medicine he is taking.
 
Trump rode in a car to wave to people outside the hospital. It appears he had on a cloth mask and the only secret service agent I could see inside had on a visor, N95, and a torn gown. I do not think this was a smart idea. link
 
COVID-19 vaccine AZD1222 clinical trial resumed in Japan, follows restart of trials in the UK, Brazil, South Africa and India

2 October 2020 08:30 BST


The Phase I/II clinical trial for the COVID-19 vaccine AZD1222 has resumed in Japan after discussion with the Japanese Pharmaceuticals and Medical Devices Agency (PMDA).

A standard review process triggered a voluntary pause to vaccination across all global trials on 6 September to allow review of safety data by an independent committee. Their recommendations have been supported by international regulators in the UK, Brazil, South Africa, India and now in Japan, who have deemed that the trials are safe to resume.

AstraZeneca continues to work with the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to facilitate review of the information needed to make a decision regarding resumption of the US trial. The safety of trial participants is of paramount importance and we are committed to upholding the highest standards of conduct in clinical trials.
 
sharon sanders said:
Trump rode in a car to wave to people outside the hospital. It appears he had on a cloth mask and the only secret service agent I could see inside had on a visor, N95, and a torn gown. I do not think this was a smart idea. link
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@DrTomFrieden
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Steroids such as dexamethasone cause hyperactivity. Just saying.


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I was on a course of dexamethasone intermittently a few years ago and my experience was that it did give me hyperactivity, increased appetite, and trouble sleeping. I was hyperactive from about 1 hour after dosage until the next morning. It did not affect my ability to reason but I did not receive a daily dose for a week straight.
 
The tweet below is unfortunate. Every President receives the kind of medical care not available to anyone else on the planet.

Yes... Live your life - but be careful where COVID-19 is concerned. It can kill or wound you. Take all the usual precautions. You know what to do.



Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
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I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life. We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!
 
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