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Nepal Mystery Disease Continues March 13, 2009 + Swine Flu Ruled Out

Re: Nepal rules out swine flu as mystery virus kills 13

Re: Nepal rules out swine flu as mystery virus kills 13

No one on this big blue earth is far from anyone. We really do have just 6* of separation.
 
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Re: Nepal rules out swine flu as mystery virus kills 13

For those of you that are new, the quotes below are not ?new? in their nature, and are of no value for the understanding the current H1N1 (2009) virus.

Post # 1

However, Gunaraj Lohani, a doctor leading the medical team to the remote village, said the deaths were not due to swine flu but viral infection.
Influenza is a viral infection. What is important is that Gunarah Lohani has apparently ruled out H1N1 (2009), but has offered no diagnosis as to which virus is responsible. There are many viruses that cause the same symptoms.
Post #4

Victims died hours after they showed such symptoms, reports say.

If true, this is an important point of information. And does suggest that H1N1 (2009) is not responsible. But, there are other viruses, even perhaps H5N1, that could display such virulence. Not enough evidence to decide.

Post #4

More than 50 per cent of the students living in a hostel of Manakamana Deaf Secondary School at Taksar in Gorkha-8 are suffering from pneumonia.
If true, this is a very high ?attack rate?, for any virus.

Post #4

The mystery disease that triggered panic in remote Gumda VDC for the past two weeks has been identified. Health Minister Giriraj Mani Pokhrel arrived here on Thursday along with a team of officials. He announced that Post Viral Pneumonia led to the death of 13 villagers.

I?m not sure what ?Post Viral Pneumonia? is. It could be what we are familiar with as ?secondary pneumonia?, that is, a bacterial infection in the lungs that occurs as an opportunistic infection enabled by a primary virus infection that weakens the bodies immune system. That, in itself, is not unusual. But, what is the primary viral pathogen?

Summary:

There is frequently a disconnect between the facts, and statements made by authorities, and what the media reports.

If you follow influenza for awhile, the fog will clear, and you will become adept at separating the ?wheat from the chaff?. And, the experienced folks here at FluTrackers will help you do that.

Hope this was helpful for everyone.

Snick
 
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Re: Nepal rules out swine flu as mystery virus kills 13

Snick, you also should include the apparent ages of some of the victims as significant. Otherwise healthy kids dying suddenly following a viral infection should be a red flag for us.
 
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Great Snick! Thanks everyone!
 
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Yes, Shannon. The age cohort is very important. WHO has made note of that several times in their daily press briefings, as has CDC.

We should also keep in mind the median age of a country. 26 years of age (arbitrary number) is a lot younger in developed nations than it is in developing nations.
 
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Re: Nepal rules out swine flu as mystery virus kills 13

Good point about the median life span Snick.
 
Undiagnosed illness - nepal: (rolpa) request for information

Undiagnosed illness - nepal: (rolpa) request for information

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International Society for Infectious Diseases
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Date: Tue 12 May 2009
Source: Xinhua News Agency [edited]
<http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2009-05/12/content_11361962.htm>


Over 60 people ill due to "mysterious" disease in mid-western Nepal
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More than 60 people at Jaimakashala in Rolpa district in mid-western Nepal
have been taken ill due to a mysterious disease that spread in the village
3 days ago.

According to Tuesday's [12 May 2009] eKantipur.com, most of the victims are
women, elderly, and children. An official at the District Public Health
Office informed that a team of health workers has been dispatched to the
disease-hit area, some 270 km (168 mi) west of Kathmandu, to take stock of
the situation and to offer treatment to the sick.

All patients have similar symptoms of acute headache, fever, and vomiting
up blood,
a health worker said. He said that the disease may have been
caused due to consumption of polluted water and inadequate sanitation.

With no health worker at the local health post, the patients could not
receive treatment on time.

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communicated by:
ProMED-mail
<promed@promedmail.org>

[Unless the described hematemesis (vomiting up blood) was associated with
intense vomiting leading to esophageal tears and subsequent bleeding,
hematemesis is not usually associated with the variety of microorganisms
that are usually the culprits in waterborne gastroenteritis outbreaks. The
mention of acute headache and fever as a predominant finding does have one
wonder about malaria and the encephalitides such as Japanese encephalitis,
although the possibility of entrance of one of the hemorrhagic fevers such
as CCHF (Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever) or one of the old world
hantaviruses is there as well. ProMED-mail would greatly appreciate
receiving more information from knowledgeable sources in the region.

For a map of Rolpa district in the Rapti Zone of Nepal, see
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolpa>. For a larger map of Nepal to
juxtapose the map of Rolpa, please see
<http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/nepal_pol90.jpg>. And
for the interactive HealthMap/ProMED-mail map of Rolpa Nepal, with links to
other recent outbreaks in Nepal and surrounding regions, see
<http://healthmap.org/r/00bS>. - Mod.MPP]

:tiphat:http://tinyurl.com/opzowl
 
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Sixty sick is a significant number. Vomiting up blood does sound hemorrhagic.
 
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Gorkha disease is post-viral pneumonia


Kantipur Report GORKHA, May 8 - [FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif]The disease that killed 13 in a village of Gorkha district has been diagnosed as post-viral pneumonia.
The medical team that reached Gumda from the district headquarters yesterday identified the disease spread in the village for the past three weeks and started treating the patients.
After getting treatment, about 150 villagers who are suffering from the disease -- out of which 30 were critical ? are gradually recovering after the treatment.
The disease took three lives on Wednesday alone.
The number of children among the deceased is significant. The disease has symptom of headache, fever and cough along with pain in the abdomen and itching in the body

http://www.kantipuronline.com/kolnews.php?&nid=193100
[/FONT]
 
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Rasuwagadhi border sealed off


Kantipur Report RASUWA, May 13 -Fearing possible spread of viral pneumonia that claimed 13 lives in neighbouring Gorkha district in the last two weeks, Chinese officials sealed off Rasuwagadhi transit from Monday.
Chinese security personnel padlocked the iron bars on the bridge over Lengde stream and under-construction Bailey Bridge nearby stopping cross-border movement. Trade between the bordering areas of the two countries has also come to a halt due to the border seal.
http://www.ekantipur.com/kolnews.php?&nid=194013
 
Re: Nepal Mystery Disease Continues March 13, 2009 + Swine Flu Ruled Out

I merged another thread we had started on March 13 about a mystery disease in Nepal. One of the areas is near the most recent outbreak.
 
Re: Nepal Mystery Disease Continues March 13, 2009 + Swine Flu Ruled Out

Important note: The 60 ill individuals noted in post #25 are from Rolpa District which is not near the Gorkha District where 13 people have recently died (post #4).

See map below.

Nepal Gorkha Rolpa 2090513.jpg
 
Re: Nepal Mystery Disease Continues March 13, 2009 + Swine Flu Ruled Out

Could be Acute Encephalitis Syndrome (AES) which is on the rise across the border in Utter Pradesh India.
 
Re: Nepal Mystery Disease Continues March 13, 2009 + Swine Flu Ruled Out

This report says 2000 are infected. :(

Villages in western Nepal unknown disease has more than 2,000 people were killed 8 infection

2009 / 05 / 07 Thursday 9:37

Gorkha district in western Nepal is fashionable these days to a village an unknown disease, so far has resulted in 8 people were killed and more than 2,000 people infected.

Nepal's national news agency Xinhua quoted the report on the 6th, the village is located in the capital, 75 kilometers west of Kathmandu.
患者的共同症狀包括頭疼、發燒、咳嗽、喉嚨疼和腹痛。​

Patients with the common symptoms include headache, fever, cough, sore throat and abdominal pain.
報導指出,這種不明疾病已經在該村莊流行了兩周。​



Reported that unknown disease that has been popular in the village for two weeks.


http://finance.ifeng.com/roll/20090507/631699.shtml
 
Re: Nepal Mystery Disease Continues March 13, 2009 + Swine Flu Ruled Out

I'm guessing it's meningitis. Meningitis shows similar symptoms, is viral, and kills within a few hours of onset like the Nepal mystery disease did as one of the articles posted here mentioned.

There was a similar outbreak in Dade county Florida announced on the 22nd of April 2009...

http://www.wsvn.com/news/articles/local/MI118864/

The Nepal cases occurred within a smaller time frame, none the less, I see more similarities to meningitis than H1N1 here.

Just my opinion.
 
Re: Nepal Mystery Disease Continues March 13, 2009 + Swine Flu Ruled Out

I believe this is either A) influenza or B) viral hemorrhagic fever. I strongly doubt encephalitis because of the finding of viral pneumonia. Also there have been no reports of seizures.
 
Re: Nepal Mystery Disease Continues March 13, 2009 + Swine Flu Ruled Out

to me - if it walks like a duck . . . . and quacks like a duck . . . dx sounds more viral than any of the other options mentioned -
 
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