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**sharon sanders** · November 29, 2020, 07:49 PM

I want to clarify that I do not know if SARS-CoV-2 can survive frozen on packaging with enough strength to infect people. The numerous China outbreaks of SARS-CoV-2 cited as originating from frozen packaging on imported goods is not generally accepted. It is, however, very interesting. I am following these instances because I think it is a sign of something - I am just not sure of what....

**Shiloh** · February 12, 2021, 02:14 PM

Frozen food?: https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/202...onavirus-intl/

**Mary Wilson** · February 12, 2021, 11:22 PM

Can frozen food spread the coronavirus?

February 12, 2021 4:43 p.m.
Michaeleen Doucleff

At a news conference this week, the World Health Organization made a surprising statement: The coronavirus could possibly transmit on frozen packages of food.

"We know that the virus can persist and survive in conditions that are found in these cold and frozen environments," says Peter Ben Embarek, the food scientist who led the World Health Organization team that traveled to China to investigate the origin of the pandemic. "But we don't really understand if the virus can then transmit to humans."

Embarek went on to say that scientists need to investigate further this possible route of transmission – and that frozen meat, perhaps frozen wild meat, could have sparked an early outbreak of COVID-19 last year at the Huanan Seafood market in Wuhan.

... These results – and the statements from WHO — were a bit surprising, because they go against what scientists have been telling us for a few months now. That you catch COVID-19 primarily through the air, not surfaces. And you don't need to wipe down food packages.

... First off, this Xinfadi Market is not your local Trader Joe's, says microbiologist Emanuel Goldman at Rutgers New Jersey Medical School. Xinfadi is enormous. It's 12 million square feet — larger than 200 football fields. Inside, workers receive international shipments of large pallets of frozen meat and seafood which they ship to stores across Beijing. The fish isn't in in individually-packaged boxes, like you find in a frozen food section of the grocery store. A giant frozen slab is a very different surface and has very different conditions than a small package of fish sticks. The slab will stay colder for longer, and the virus could survive on it – or in it — longer.

In other words, Goldman says, the environment inside this warehouse is very different from one that a regular consumer would ever find themselves in. So far, only warehouse workers and dock workers, receiving international packages, have been possibly infected through these frozen packages.

"China hasn't had any reports of consumers, of even suspicion, of consumers being infected by this route," Goldman says.

Second, Goldman says, even under these very specific conditions — with industrial-scale shipping — transmission through this route is incredibly rare.
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( also available to listen to the story, 4.02)

Can frozen food spread the coronavirus?

https://www.mprnews.org/story/2021/02/12/npr-can-frozen-food-spread-the-coronavirus

At a news conference this week, the World Health Organization made a surprising statement: The coronavirus could possibly transmit on frozen packages of food.

**sharon sanders** · February 13, 2021, 09:24 AM

**bertrand789** · February 13, 2021, 10:04 AM

c'est normal:

pourquoi avoir supprim? les contacts avec les mains au tout d?but ?

Mais maintenant qu'ils ont admis ce possible , ils vont permettre de regarder les donn?es concernant leurs aliments congel?s , ou ?

s'ils ne veulent pas , les russes vont nous apprendre, car ils doivent en avoir une sacr?e collection d'aliments chinois congel?s, non ?

**kiwibird** · February 23, 2021, 04:51 AM

BC, Canada: 2021/2022 Covid Cases - FluTrackers News and Information

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum/canada/canada-covid-19-sept-13-2020-may-31-2021/902970-bc-canada-2021-covid-cases/page3

BC, Canada: 2021/2022 Covid Cases

Frozen food manufacturer in British Columbia Canada has outbreak.

**bertrand789** · February 23, 2021, 05:25 AM

amusant,

on ne parle pas de contamination alimentaire des ?levages ?

Elle sont ou les enqu?tes v?t?rinaires des ?levages de vison, la voie alimentaire n'a jamais ?t? regard?e ?

c'est difficile de faire cela dans un lieu ad hoc ?

C'est quoi un lieu ad hoc pour reproduire cela ?

il faut un P4 ou ?

**sharon sanders** · February 23, 2021, 09:04 AM

bump this

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China - The "Frozen" Phenomena - Now W.H.O. agrees COVID-19 could be transmitted via frozen packaging?

China - The "Frozen" Phenomena - Now W.H.O. agrees COVID-19 could be transmitted via frozen packaging?

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