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  • Re: Indonesian Human Cases Nov 3+

    Big Climate Conference coming up in Bali; Odd story about a security officer, found dead in his hotelroom: died from "difficult flu".

    Edit: alternative translation of "difficult flu" is " heavy flu" (original: flu berat) .

    The guard of the Conference UN Died because of Flu

    Denpasar, on Tuesday - Brigadier Samsul Bahri (32), the member Traffic Police Greater Jakarta Metropolitan Regional Police died as a result of being attacked by acute flu. Samsul at this time was in-BKO-would as pengaman Konfereni UN about the Change in the Climate (UNFCCC) Denpasar, Bali.

    "From results" of the "team's inspection" of the "doctor, Samsul it was mentioned died as a result of being attacked by difficult flu, not resulting from the existence" of the "criminal action," said Kasubid Humas Regional Police Bali AKBP Sri Harmiti, in Denpasar, on Tuesday (27/11).

    Brigadier Samsul since several days ago was in Bali related UNFCCC security efforts, on Monday (26/11) at dawn around struck 02,00 Wita was found by his room-mate in the Hotel of Orange-Jee in Street Hayam Wuruk, Denpasar already in the situation died. When his room-mate came, said Sri, casualties Samsul were found died with the stiff body on his bed.

    Saw that, the friend a room of casualties immediately reported to Regional Police Bali that afterwards entered carried out investigation. Kasubid Humas mentioned, the official of the investigator who was accompanied by the team of the doctor who carried out investigation, in his conclusion said that casualties were killed as a result of being attacked by quite difficult flu.

    Along with that, the official who carried out investigation also did not find the guidance if the member Traffic Police Greater Jakarta Metropolitan Regional Police died resulting from the existence of the criminal action. After being checked, said Sri, in the afternoon same the Samsul body was despatched to Jakarta, to be handed over to the family.
    (ANT/ABI)



    credits bgw in MT
    ?Addressing chronic disease is an issue of human rights ? that must be our call to arms"
    Richard Horton, Editor-in-Chief The Lancet

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    • Re: Indonesian Human Cases Nov 3+

      From a blog, not a newssource; apparently written by an relative of a deceased suspect bird flu patient. Seems important enough to post here.


      On November 28 2007..

      On that day, an officer who was great, was full of the dedication to his country, went to precede all of us because of being sick that was suffered by him.

      He did not only leave a wife and two children, but also left dozens of other people who honored and loved him as a firm teacher, hard but was not willing if junior him, both the officer and the non-commissioned officer tamtama, took stupid measures.

      The respected person was Captain Kasimin, the Blitar person who was born on December 3 1958. The illness that was suffered until this second was not known whether his kind. Sir Kasimin was treated in while 5 days, and for that received 5 different diagnoses (!).

      The first day in RSAU it was suspected suffered dengue fever.

      The second day it was suspected experienced the disturbance of the heart.

      The third day it was supposed contracted pneumonia.

      The fourth day was mentioned had signs of leukemia.

      That same evening was reconciled to RUSPAU. (Military Hospital for the Airforce, ed)

      The fifth day he was stated as suspect bird flu.

      And in struck 11,40 finally he appeared for The Creator.



      Questions Mr Kasimin was still whining on my ears.
      Including being, When supi-driver stupid that could take wise measures?

      Until we the person of the technique must ngemong the idiotic babies?
      And Whether unbalanced returned that was given by the Timur Bloc on their success?

      We who as hard as possible supported them, how come not dianggep anything?

      Sir Kasimin, titip (giving?,ed) greetings for Mbah I and my relatives that was other in the wild there.

      Titip (giving?,ed) greetings also for Mas Kris..

      Rest In Peace, Uncle.



      credits for the link: K from Mi
      ?Addressing chronic disease is an issue of human rights ? that must be our call to arms"
      Richard Horton, Editor-in-Chief The Lancet

      ~~~~ Twitter:@GertvanderHoek ~~~ GertvanderHoek@gmail.com ~~~

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      • Re: Indonesian Human Cases Nov 3+

        Thank you Dutchy and K from Mi for information on this suspected case.

        At this time there is no news appearing in MSM in Indonesia regarding actual or suspected cases.

        We respectfully request that all available information regarding "bird flu" be disseminated.

        Thank you.

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        • Re: Indonesian Human Cases Nov 3+

          Originally posted by Dutchy View Post
          From a blog, not a newssource; apparently written by an relative of a deceased suspect bird flu patient. Seems important enough to post here.


          On November 28 2007..

          On that day, an officer who was great, was full of the dedication to his country, went to precede all of us because of being sick that was suffered by him.

          He did not only leave a wife and two children, but also left dozens of other people who honored and loved him as a firm teacher, hard but was not willing if junior him, both the officer and the non-commissioned officer tamtama, took stupid measures.

          The respected person was Captain Kasimin, the Blitar person who was born on December 3 1958. The illness that was suffered until this second was not known whether his kind. Sir Kasimin was treated in while 5 days, and for that received 5 different diagnoses (!).

          The first day in RSAU it was suspected suffered dengue fever.

          The second day it was suspected experienced the disturbance of the heart.

          The third day it was supposed contracted pneumonia.

          The fourth day was mentioned had signs of leukemia.

          That same evening was reconciled to RUSPAU. (Military Hospital for the Airforce, ed)

          The fifth day he was stated as suspect bird flu.

          And in struck 11,40 finally he appeared for The Creator.


          Questions Mr Kasimin was still whining on my ears.
          Including being, When supi-driver stupid that could take wise measures?

          Until we the person of the technique must ngemong the idiotic babies?
          And Whether unbalanced returned that was given by the Timur Bloc on their success?

          We who as hard as possible supported them, how come not dianggep anything?

          Sir Kasimin, titip (giving?,ed) greetings for Mbah I and my relatives that was other in the wild there.

          Titip (giving?,ed) greetings also for Mas Kris..

          Rest In Peace, Uncle.



          credits for the link: K from Mi
          I was unable to find the exact location of the Air Force hospital Rumah Sakit Pusat Angkatan Udara. But the blog suggests that Captain Kasimin was member of Skadron Udara 8 which is apparently headquartered at Atang Senjaya which is in the Bogor District south of Jakarta. http://www.tni-au.mil.id/orbat.asp
          http://novel-infectious-diseases.blogspot.com/

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          • Re: Indonesian Human Cases Nov 3+

            Originally posted by Laidback Al View Post
            I was unable to find the exact location of the Air Force hospital Rumah Sakit Pusat Angkatan Udara. But the blog suggests that Captain Kasimin was member of Skadron Udara 8 which is apparently headquartered at Atang Senjaya which is in the Bogor District south of Jakarta. http://www.tni-au.mil.id/orbat.asp
            I'm pretty sure the Rumah Sakit Pusat Angkatan Udara (RSPAU aka RUSPAU) is on the Halim Perdanakusuma airforce base which is in Jakarta [source].

            That's the hospital he was transferred to, though, and doesn't really tell us where he got sick. I'll try to find info about the first hospital -- RSAU.
            ...when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. - Sherlock Holmes

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            • Re: Indonesian Human Cases Nov 3+

              Well, RSAU just stands for "Rumah Sakit Angkatan Udara" or "Hospital Air Force", so that's not very helpful.

              I think Al's got the best lead here (thanks, Al!):
              Originally posted by Laidback Al View Post
              I was unable to find the exact location of the Air Force hospital Rumah Sakit Pusat Angkatan Udara. But the blog suggests that Captain Kasimin was member of Skadron Udara 8 which is apparently headquartered at Atang Senjaya which is in the Bogor District south of Jakarta. http://www.tni-au.mil.id/orbat.asp
              ...when you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth. - Sherlock Holmes

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              • Re: Indonesian Human Cases Nov 3+

                Hat tip to Commonground

                Balita Suspect Flu Burung Ditemukan di Rohul

                <table class="contentpaneopen"><tbody><tr> <td colspan="2" class="createdate" valign="top"> Tuesday, 04 December 2007 14:59 </td> </tr> <tr> <td colspan="2" valign="top"> Ciri-ciri Menyerupai Penyakit Flu Burung
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                PEKANBARU--Satu lagi balita suspect flu burung ditemukan di Rokan Hulu. AS (1 th) merupakan balita asal Desa Rambah baru Kecamatan rambah Samo Kabupaten Rohul. AS dinyatakan suspect flu burung setelah mengalami sesak nafas, batuk dan demam. Yang paling mengarah ke suspect, belum lama ini AS menurut pengakuan keluarga pernah melakukan kontak dengan unggas di tempat asalnya itu yang sebelumnya sudah ditemukan kasus flu burung pada unggas di situ.

                Demikian disampaikan Kasubdin Pelayanan Kesehatan Dinas Kesehatan Provinsi Riau Burhanuddin Agung menjawab riautoday.com Selasa (4/12).

                Namun demikian terang Burhanuddin meski dinyatakan suspect flu burung, pihak keluarga AS tidak mau membawa anaknya ke RSUD Arifin Achmad sebagai salah satu rumah sakit Riau yang ditunjuk sebagai tempat rujukan bagi pasien yang diduga suspect flu burung maupun yang dinyatakan positif tertular virus Avian Influenza.

                ''Kami tidak tahu alasannya, yang jelas pihak keluarga pasien tidak mau membawa anaknya berobat ke RSUD ARifin Achmad,''ungkap Burhanuddin. (hnr)



                We woke reasonably late following the feast and free flowing wine the night before. After gathering ourselves and our packs, we headed down to our homestay family’s small dining room for breakfast. Refreshingly, what was expected of her was the same thing that was expected of Lara Stone: to take a beautiful picture. We were...



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                • Re: Indonesian Human Cases Nov 3+

                  Originally posted by Florida1 View Post
                  Hat tip to Commonground

                  Balita Suspect Flu Burung Ditemukan di Rohul

                  <TABLE class=contentpaneopen><TBODY><TR><TD class=createdate vAlign=top colSpan=2>Tuesday, 04 December 2007 14:59 </TD></TR> <TR> <TD vAlign=top colSpan=2> Ciri-ciri Menyerupai Penyakit Flu Burung
                  Laporan Gema Setara<SCRIPT language=JavaScript type=text/javascript> <!-- var prefix = 'ma' + 'il' + 'to'; var path = 'hr' + 'ef' + '='; var addy84594 = 'redaksi' + '@' + 'riautoday' + '.' + 'com'; document.write( '<a ' + path + '\'' + prefix + ':' + addy84594 + '\'>' ); document.write( addy84594 ); document.write( '<\/a>' ); //--> </SCRIPT> redaksi@riautoday.com <NOSCRIPT>Alamat Email inidilindungi dari bot spam, Anda Harus Mengaktifkan Javascript Untuk Melihatnya </NOSCRIPT>
                  PEKANBARU--Satu lagi balita suspect flu burung ditemukan di Rokan Hulu. AS (1 th) merupakan balita asal Desa Rambah baru Kecamatan rambah Samo Kabupaten Rohul. AS dinyatakan suspect flu burung setelah mengalami sesak nafas, batuk dan demam. Yang paling mengarah ke suspect, belum lama ini AS menurut pengakuan keluarga pernah melakukan kontak dengan unggas di tempat asalnya itu yang sebelumnya sudah ditemukan kasus flu burung pada unggas di situ.

                  Demikian disampaikan Kasubdin Pelayanan Kesehatan Dinas Kesehatan Provinsi Riau Burhanuddin Agung menjawab riautoday.com Selasa (4/12).

                  Namun demikian terang Burhanuddin meski dinyatakan suspect flu burung, pihak keluarga AS tidak mau membawa anaknya ke RSUD Arifin Achmad sebagai salah satu rumah sakit Riau yang ditunjuk sebagai tempat rujukan bagi pasien yang diduga suspect flu burung maupun yang dinyatakan positif tertular virus Avian Influenza.

                  ''Kami tidak tahu alasannya, yang jelas pihak keluarga pasien tidak mau membawa anaknya berobat ke RSUD ARifin Achmad,''ungkap Burhanuddin. (hnr)



                  We woke reasonably late following the feast and free flowing wine the night before. After gathering ourselves and our packs, we headed down to our homestay family’s small dining room for breakfast. Refreshingly, what was expected of her was the same thing that was expected of Lara Stone: to take a beautiful picture. We were...




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                  On Tuesday, on December 04 2007 14:59 the Menyerupai Penyakit Flu Burung Laporan characteristics on the Echo of Setara redaksi@riautoday.com Pekanbaru -- Other pre-schoolers suspect bird flu was found in Rokan Hulu.The USA (1 th) was pre-schoolers from the Rambah Village just the Subdistrict cleared Samo Kabupaten Rohul.The USA was stated suspect bird flu after experienced breathless, the cough and the fever.That most headed to suspect, just recently the USA had according to the acknowledgment of the family carried out contact with the poultry in the place of his origin that beforehand has been found by the case of bird flu to the poultry there.Was like this was sent by Kasubdin Pelayanan Kesehatan Dinas of the Health of the Province Riau Burhanuddin Agung answered riautoday.com on Tuesday (4/12).Nevertheless obviously Burhanuddin although being stated suspect bird flu, the US family did not want to bring his child to RSUD Arifin Achmad as one of the Riau hospitals that was indicated as the place of reconciliation for the patient who was expected suspect bird flu and that was stated positive tertular the virus of Avian Influenza.We did not know his reason, that was clear the patient's family did not want to take his child took medicine to RSUD ARifin Achmad,''ungkap Burhanuddin.(hnr)</PRE>

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                  • Re: Indonesian Human Cases Nov 3+

                    Thanks Commonground, Niman, Theresa42

                    New thread for Indonesian human cases:

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                    • Re: Indonesian Human Cases Nov 3+

                      In the absence of MSM reports of any actual or suspect bird flu cases, we can only surmise suppositions from the limited information available.

                      The above (limited) information has two similarities, apart the small gap from apparent onset dates of illness in each of two cases.

                      Post from Dutchy re: Brigadier Samsul Bahri (32), 'the member Traffic Police Greater Jakarta Metropolitan Regional Police (UN conference guard) died of a heavy flu.'

                      And

                      Captain Kasimin, who was referred to the military hospital for treament. The post below suggests that 'Captain Kasimin was member of Skadron Udara 8 which is apparently headquartered at Atang Senjaya which is in the Bogor District south of Jakarta.'

                      As far as I can tell from the maps there is overlap between the two regions of Greater Jakarta, and Bogor.

                      It is likely that given the UN conference that there has been a full mobilisation of all resources to police and protect delegates, and therefore close contacts between both the military and police forces. Therefore congratulations to one and all for finding these reports, and perhaps we should continue to keep a particular eye out for any further such instances in either the military or police.

                      It would appear from the case of Captain Kasimin that there has been no contact with poultry in this instance, and it would be (I would surmise) fairly unlikely given the seniority of the officer and his standing in the community - he would not be doing his own cooking or shopping, especially if he was quartered at the military base.

                      If this is too speculative a post, please feel free to delete.

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