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    https://www.businessinsider.com/nucl...ar-2022-2?op=1
    Russia's attack on Ukraine raises a harrowing question: How widespread would fallout from a nuclear bomb be?


    Aria Bendix
    Feb 25, 2022, 11:17 AM

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    A nuclear strike is unlikely but not altogether implausible, experts told Insider.

    "I hope it doesn't escalate, and I think there's a good chance that it doesn't, but the risk is real whenever nuclear-armed states are engaged in conflict with one another," Tara Drozdenko, the director of the Union of Concerned Scientists' Global Security Program, told Insider.
    "Ukraine doesn't have nuclear weapons, so the risk of nuclear war in this scenario is if, somehow, the conflict escalated to pull in NATO countries or the US," she added. "That raises the risk of nuclear confrontation because some of the NATO countries have nuclear weapons."

    The US has about 5,500 nuclear weapons, while Russia has about 6,000, according to the Federation of American Scientists. Drozdenko said US nukes generally had explosive yields equivalent to about 300 kilotons of TNT, while Russian nukes tended to range from 50 to 100 kilotons to 500 to 800 kilotons, though each country has more powerful nuclear weapons.

    "Modern weapons are 20 to 30 times more powerful than the bombs dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki," Drozdenko said, adding: "If the US and Russia launched everything that they had, it could potentially be a civilization-ending event.
    Death, starvation, radiation poisoning, and 3rd-degree burns

    A single nuclear weapon can easily wipe out an entire city, Kathryn Higley, a professor of nuclear science at Oregon State University, told Insider.
    "It's really hard to say, 'Well, this city will survive and that city won't,'" she added. "It's very, very dependent on weapon size, what the topography looks like, where they detonate it, who's upwind, who's downwind."

    When a nuclear bomb strikes, it sets off a flash of light, a giant orange fireball, and building-toppling shockwaves. People at the center of the explosion (within half a mile for a 300-kiloton bomb) could be killed right away, while others in the vicinity could suffer third-degree burns. A 1,000-kiloton nuclear blast might produce third-degree burns up to 5 miles away, second-degree burns up to 6 miles away, and first-degree burns up to 7 miles away, according to one estimate from AsapScience. People up to 53 miles away could also experience temporary blindness.

    "Say you're in a city, and you are far enough away from the blast center that you don't get a lethal dose of radiation — you are very likely going to be injured by a falling building or have third-degree burns over a large portion of your body," Drozdenko said, adding: "There are not enough empty burn beds in all of the United States to deal with even a single nuclear attack on one city in the US."...
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      https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/w...adviser-death/
      Who is the Adviser? Death?
      Blog/War
      Posted Mar 1, 2022 by Martin Armstrong

      QUESTION:
      You think Putin should win? Why do you support Putin?

      SB

      ANSWER: Do you really think that Putin should be defeated? What planet are you on? If Putin is defeated in Ukraine, then the entire fate of Russia hangs in the balance. Do you honestly think he would let the collapse of Russia take place? At that point, any animal will attack if its back is against the wall. If Ukraine were to win, the ONLY option for Putin will be to push the red button. Are you drinking the government’s Kool-Aid?

      We better pray for a diplomatic solution and the world has to stop cheering Zelensky. He has tried to engulf the entire world. He has been asking for jets from everyone. They are wisely standing aside for if any NATO country sends in troops or jets to Ukraine, it is an all-out war.

      Be very careful who you are cheering for. This is not a soccer match or a video game. Zelensky gets billions from all the Russian gas that flows to Europe through Ukraine. He is fighting for revenue. He cut off all the water supply to Crimea while he has been shelling the Donbas. None of this is being reported by the mainstream press. Crimea sits on top of vast gas fields which he wants desperately to compete with Russia...





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      • alert
        alert commented
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        This article is making a logical fallacy. It is assuming that a "loss" by Putin results in the destruction of Russia as a nation. It is entirely possible that Putin could "lose" the war (i.e. be driven out of Ukraine) without that happening. It also makes the mistake of assuming that a loss by Putin is the same as a loss by Russia. It is entirely possible that the Russian people (or the Russian army or even the Russian oligarchs) could "win" the war by removing Putin from power and liberating their own country as well.

      • Emily
        Emily commented
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        Alert, the author has both Russian and Ukrainian friends. I think he's making a logical assumption about Putin's viewpoint. Our General Petraeus also just warned not to back Putin into a corner. I'll post a video interview with a couple of Indian generals who share the same concerns. One did military exercises with Russia so has deep knowledge about them.
        The possibility of a junta or coup against Putin is slim to none. The media wants this war to go on as long as possible for their own cynical purposes. The US knows this war is already decided, but wants to bleed Russia as much as possible while they can. There is a lot of collateral damage in that policy. It's frankly immoral to lead people on about this.
        Russians will not trust the West so even if Putin is replaced, https://www.thenation.com/article/wo...oys-do-russia/, they will ally with China, not us.

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      General Shokin Chauhan:
      "As a strike corps commander, I have carried out a very big exercise with the Russian army, and I have seen that they are willing to use their nuclear weapons at the first instance, because they say if we don't use it now, we don't survive. So the Russians don't only have it, they have done exercises with it, they have planned it and they are willing to use nuclear weapons.
      The Russians ability and willingness to use these weapons of mass destruction simply prevents any kind of boots on the ground by NATO. If NATO
      comes in, then it is the Third World War. Then it will be the globe at war, not only the Ukraine and Russia."

      https://youtu.be/pNHUDDqTgdI?t=515 (Link directly to General Chauhan's comments)


      Why isn’t NATO fighting Russia? Indian army generals respond
      2,152,523 views

      Times of India

      For months now, tens of thousands of US and NATO troops have been positioned along Ukraine’s western borders, with the most sophisticated war machinery in the world. Their leaders have issued thundering threats to Russian President Vladimir Putin. Yet, Russia unleashed air power, tanks and 190000 troops and has invaded Ukraine. Ukrainian civilians, reservists and troops are fighting a valiant but unequal battle, nearly 150 civilians including children have been killed within barely three days. So where is NATO and why isn’t it helping Ukrainians fight the Russians? In an exclusive conversation with Padma Rao Sundarji for Times Online, India’s generals Ata Hasnain and Shokin Chauhan provide the answers.
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        "will ensue" not "might ensue"

        https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/...nuclear-threat
        How realistic is Vladimir Putin’s nuclear threat?
        Frustrated by a lack of military progress in Ukraine, the Russian president has put his country’s nuclear arms on high alert.

        By Thomas O Falk
        Published On 3 Mar 20223 Mar 2022

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        “MAD is supposed to apply – but we did not expect Putin to invade a sovereign country and put Russian forces at risk with over 4,200 casualties already. Putin is risking soldiers’ lives, like pawns in a chess game… These factors make it impossible for nuclear deterrence to work properly as it requires rational decision-makers, as we learned from the 1962 Cuban missile crisis,” she said.

        “A nuclear attack at the tactical level may be possible, but then a dangerous MAD escalation will ensue.”
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            https://www.businessinsider.com.au/l...rgets-2017-5-2
            The UN said nuclear war is ‘back within the realm of possibility.’ Here are the places in the US most likely to be hit in

            Abbie Shull Mar. 17, 2022, 9:15 AM
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              U.S.NRC
              List of Power Reactor Units
              Map of Power Reactor Sites
              https://www.nrc.gov/reactors/operati...tor-units.html

            • Emily
              Emily commented
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              Thank you, Mary. I hope none of the military targets has a power reactor near it. I couldn't find a technical paper on what could happen, but even a Fukushima situation would be so much worse if something like that happened. There was nothing like this to contend with in WWII, or any conflicts I can think of right now.

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              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr2KIsBeCGU
              The Russian Poseidon nuclear AUV - SUT Webinar


              9,828 views
              Jul 13, 2020
              SUT Media
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              In a game-changing new technological development, the Russian Navy is developing a nuclear powered, and nuclear armed, Autonomous Underwater Vehicle (AUV) named 'Poseidon', NATO reporting name 'Kanyon'. In this webinar, SUT CEO Steve Hall briefs viewers on what is known so far about Poseidon, such as specifications, purpose, detectability, countermeasures and in particular the legal & policy implications. After the presentation there's a good Q&A session where participants discuss aspects of the vehicle - is it going to be the first of a whole family of systems? Will the West need to build their own as a countermeasure - or as a bargaining chip to negotiate them out of existence? SUT Webinar 13th July 2020 Find out more about SUT at https://www.sut.org Thanks to H.I. Sutton for allowing use of his excellent graphics see http://www.hisutton.com where you'll also find comprehensive additional information about Poseidon and other advanced underwater systems.

              https://www.forbes.com/sites/hisutto...h=4855fc555f8c

              Jul 1, 2020,07:50am EDT|38,822 views
              Russia’s New Super Weapons May Be Cause Of Radiation Leak
              H I Sutton Former Contributor
              Aerospace & Defense
              I cover the changing world of underwater warfare.
              A recent nuclear leak may be related to new nuclear-powered strategic weapons Russia is developing. These are part of a range of new ‘super weapons’ unveiled by President Putin on March 1, 2018. Russia is testing a nuclear-powered mega-torpedo called Poseidon and a nuclear-powered cruise missile called Burevestnik. If either are to blame, then it would not be the first radiation spike caused by testing one of these weapons...

              http://www.hisutton.com/Akademik-Aleksandrov.html
              Akademik-Aleksandrov

              Sun 02 February 2020 (last modified Mon 03 February 2020) By H I Sutton

              Pr.20183 Akademik Aleksandrov connected to Poseidon/Skif project
              Sometimes valuable military intelligence is hiding in plain sight. An innocuous Russian media report shared to YouTube in June 2019 had just 380 views when I posted about this topic on Forbes in November 2019. It has since been removed (Old URL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBmpvLkRx4E ). It reported that the “oceanographic research vessel” Akademic Aleksandrov, was completing sea trials. The video footage was taken in Severodvinsk near the Arctic where many of Russia’s most advanced submarine programs are based. What very few of the viewers may have realized is that the object on the deck appears to be one of Russia’s latest strategic weapons: 2М39

              ...

              2М39 Poseidon is one of the most disruptive weapons currently being developed. It is also one of the least well understood. Each new report and image provides intelligence that improves our understanding, at least in the OSINT arena. It appears to be designed to hit coastal cities with its 2 megaton warhead...

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                  https://news.yahoo.com/smaller-bombs...114147827.html
                  The Smaller Bombs That Could Turn Ukraine Into a Nuclear War Zone


                  William J. Broad
                  Tue, March 22, 2022, 6:41 AM

                  In destructive power, the behemoths of the Cold War dwarfed the U.S. atomic bomb that destroyed Hiroshima. Washington’s biggest test blast was 1,000 times as large. Moscow’s was 3,000 times. On both sides, the idea was to deter strikes with threats of vast retaliation — with mutual assured destruction. The psychological bar was so high that nuclear strikes came to be seen as unthinkable.

                  Today, both Russia and the United States have nuclear arms that are much less destructive — their power just fractions of the Hiroshima bomb’s force, their use perhaps less frightening and more thinkable.
                  ...

                  Analysts note that Russian troops have long practiced the transition from conventional to nuclear war, especially as a way to gain the upper hand after battlefield losses. And the military, they add, wielding the world’s largest nuclear arsenal, has explored a variety of escalatory options that Putin might choose from.

                  “The chances are low but rising,” said Ulrich Kühn, a nuclear expert at the University of Hamburg and the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. “The war is not going well for the Russians,” he observed, “and the pressure from the West is increasing.”...
                  ...

                  A global race for the smaller arms is intensifying. Though such weapons are less destructive by Cold War standards, modern estimates show that the equivalent of half a Hiroshima bomb, if detonated in midtown Manhattan, would kill or injure half a million people.

                  The case against these arms is that they undermine the nuclear taboo and make crisis situations even more dangerous. Their less destructive nature, critics say, can feed the illusion of atomic control when in fact their use can suddenly flare into a full-blown nuclear war. A simulation devised by experts at Princeton University starts with Moscow firing a nuclear warning shot; NATO responds with a small strike, and the ensuing war yields more than 90 million casualties in its first few hours.

                  No arms control treaties regulate the lesser warheads, known sometimes as tactical or nonstrategic nuclear weapons, so the nuclear superpowers make and deploy as many as they want...


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                      https://news.yahoo.com/close-putin-a...191416526.html
                      Close Putin ally warns of nuclear dystopia
                      Wed, March 23, 2022, 2:14 PM
                      A close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin on Wednesday accused the U.S. of seeking "the end of our motherland" and said escalating tensions could result in a nuclear disaster.

                      Dmitry Medvedev, deputy chairman of Russia's Security Council who also previously served as the country's president and prime minister, wrote in a post on Russian social networking site VK.com that Russia has been "the target of the same mediocre and primitive game" since the collapse of the Soviet Union.

                      "This means that Russia must be humiliated, limited, shaken, divided and destroyed," Medvedev wrote, saying if Americans succeed in that objective, "here is the result: the largest nuclear power with an unstable political regime, weak leadership, a collapsed economy and the maximum number of nuclear warheads aimed at targets in the US and Europe."

                      The Hill has reached out to the State Department for comment...
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                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM1DbSfT2Ro
                          Top Russian military figures suddenly vanish from public eye
                          938,575 views
                          Mar 24, 2022
                          news.com.au
                          397K subscribers

                          Questions have been raised on the whereabouts on a number of top Russian officials midway through the nation’s biggest conflict in decades.

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