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Suspect H2H in Bali Indonesia Aug 13 to Aug 15, 2007

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AM - Tuesday, 14 August , 2007 08:16:00


Bayu Krishnamurti is the Chairman of the National Bird Flu Centre. He was asked at a news conference about reports from his own colleagues that local people had been feeding dead and dying chickens to their pigs, opening the frightening possibility that a third species was acting as a conduit in the disease transmission to humans.

"Pigs can get infected from humans," he says, "but there's no proven case of infection from pigs to humans. It's the same for cats and dogs, but no case of infection from dogs, cats or pigs to humans has been found. That sort of conclusion is not yet confirmed."

http://www.abc.net.au/am/content/2007/s2004314.htm

TITLE Infection of a Wisconsin Man by a Swine-like Influenza Virus
Containing Avian and Human Polymerase Genes

Source Link



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Avian influenza ? situation in Indonesia ? update 13

14 August 2007
The Ministry of Health of Indonesia has announced a new case of human infection of H5N1 avian influenza. A 29-year-old female from Bali Province developed symptoms on 3 August and was hospitalized on 7 August. She died on 12 August. Investigations into the source of her infection indicate exposure to sick and dead poultry.
The case's five-year-old daughter was sick with a respiratory illness in the days preceding the onset of illness in the confirmed case. The daughter's onset of symptoms was 26 July, she was hospitalized on 30 July but died without suspicion of avian influenza infection on 3 August in the district hospital. The child had contact with sick and dead poultry before becoming ill.
All of the household and healthcare worker contacts of the confirmed case have been traced. All remain healthy and will continue to be monitored for ten days after their last contact with the case.
Of the 103 cases confirmed to date in Indonesia, 82 have been fatal. :tiphat:http://www.who.int/csr/don/2007_08_14a/en/index.html
 
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Daughter's disease onset was July 26
Mother's disease onset was August 3

8 day differential in disease onset dates = H2H
 
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Thanks dr Niman.So,what you think of the father with typhus?Is there a date of his illness?
 
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Yes, what i meant to ask, is do you think he really has typhus and has there been a mention of the onset of his disease. :tiphat: Off the record:D
 
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Yes, what i meant to ask, is do you think he really has typhus and has there been a mention of the onset of his disease. :tiphat: Off the record:D
It's not clear what his daughter has.
 
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Thanks again!We will have to wait a bit for more definitive info on them...and the pigs :magnify:
 
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Daughter's disease onset was July 26
Mother's disease onset was August 3

8 day differential in disease onset dates = H2H
I think the daughter's onset date might go back farther than July 26. Commonground can prolly verify as she will have a better handle on all the dates than I have at the moment!

Here's an excerpt from this article...
http://www.balipost.com/balipostcetak/2007/8/14/b29.htm

...regarding how long D [the daughter] was sick -- 2 weeks apparently. She died on Aug 3 -- so that would put her symptom onset date back to around July 20.

Hat-tips to commonground & SouthernBlueNeck!
toggletext-ed from Indonesian:

Flu Burung di Jembrana Mewabah

Negara (Bali Post) -

(...)

In the meantime, the husband of casualties right Putu Sri Widiatari, Ngurah Putu BS, when being met in his house on last Monday expected the Kesehatan Service to carry out the blood test to confirm keadaaan himself.

He said his child died after receiving the maintenance in RSU Negara. My child could be treated two weeks through to finally died.

Afterwards was followed by my wife, after receiving the maintenance for two days and finally was reconciled to RS Sanglah, he said sad. For the death ceremony of his wife still was waiting for the decision of the local tradition.

(....)
 
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Test results on Dina positive?

Republika is reporting that tests on samples from 5 yr old Dina were positive. Toggletext is still down, but here are two 'manual' machine-translations (one by bgw in MT and another by me) of two sentences in this article (4th paragraph) that seem to indicate that the lab in Jakarta got positive results on samples from Dina.

Hat-tip to bgw in MT for finding and hand-translating this article!
bgw in MT said:
Nlpsw child, that has died on last 3 agustus also stated positive get flu bird. Certitude obtained fbpi parties predicated laboratorium examination product that done by departemen kesehatan and laboratorium eyckman in jakarta.
Theresa42 said:
Child NLPSW [Bali?], that has died on last Aug 3 afterwards also declared positive stricken bird flu. Certainty obtained part/portion FBPI based on result of investigation laboratory that perform for this reason the Department of Health and Eyckman Laboratory in Jakarta.
 
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Enormous thanks to bgw in MT for this 'manual' machine-translation (i.e. looking all the words up in dictionaries!):

WHO sends blood to jakarta
Satpol PP Sempat Diprotes gerilya family

Aug 15, 2007

Negara - Keluhan avian virus victim influenza (AI) in Dusun Daging, Tukadaya, Country mulai heard world. Kemarin Tuesday medical team from WHO (World Health Organization) jump into Tukadaya.

Padahal two days ago Plt Kadis Kesehatan and Kesejahteraan Sosial (Kessos) Pemkab Jembrana I Putu Suasta admitted not brave took medical action before alighted fixed practice (protap) AI Internasional.

The arrival of team this WHO must greeted joyful resident in Dusun Dangin Tukadaya, Country. Team arrived in the territory days sore and direct take blood sample family and tetangga Luh Putu Widiantari, suspect victim flu bird.

There is six resident near house Widiantari examined and taken blood sample. They it is Widiantari husband, I Nengah Budi Setiawan and its mother I Wayan Sentri and father Setiawan and three people tetangganya immediate AI victim first in the Bali.

"Petugas from WHO certainly checked health family and tetangga victim. They dibantu Team from Puskesmas," ujar Prebekel Daging Tukadaya I Made Suece Antara, kemarin.

Menurutnya blood sample ke-6 immediate resident and most often interact with Widiantari, the direct dispatched to Jakarta for inspection labotarorium, use make sure what in between them had that terjangkit flu bird virus or he did not.

"Blood sample ke-6 orang the immediate victim has dispatched to Jakarta. Their yield mudah-mudahan poison known as soon as possible, " harapnya.

With examined and he had been taking sample by blood WHO Team, said Sueca Antara, keluraga Widiantari and tetangganya that dicekam all these years feel slightly calm poison fear.

"Family and tetangga near victim previous khawatir, now their slightly calm. They live waited their yield just. And mudah-mudahan they are keeping out of mischief terjangkit meski often touch with sacrifice," jelasnya.

In other side, sore Pemkab Jembrana kemarin left Rp contribution 5 million to the family Widiantari. The help delivered Sekkab I Ketut Wiryatmika to Widiantari husband, I Nengah Budi Setiawan." This help our give as exist kepedulian pemkab to to ease family burden sacrifice," ujar Wiryatmika.

Apart from help victim family flu bird, Pemkab Jembrana also menerjunkan 40 Satpol PP members to location dipimpin direct Kepala Kantor Pol PP and Kesbanglinmas I Putu Gede Sugiana. "We bring down anggato on lanusung orders bupati," i Sugiana.

Menurutnya members embroilment to follow help Team from country and relawan to destroy bird in Daging Tukadaya. In this annihilation members also diperintahkan to did firm actions yakni not to give tolerance to ungas that ditemukan roamed. "Because has all resident unanimity ungas should confiscated our no way gave tolerance," tandasnya.

Sadly Satpol PP embroilment not a great help becausethey are keeping out of mischief issued asset or senapan wind. Bahkan bird hunt that perpetrated in Dusun Sebual, fill in wrong protest action a resident people.

Protest launched Gede, wrong a resident people Sebual. Her only would like petugas happened just, destroy bird in all province. "I not the problem of chicken belong to my family confiscated, as long as all chicken in the country this confiscated," ujarnya pip.

Flu Burung Juga Turun komnas

National komisi (Komnas) Flu Burung with Kelompok Kerja Regional (KKR) Flu Burung Bali also confront kemarin Pemkab Jembrana. They insisted local governing immediate did measures konkret so that flu bird case in Jembrana not more current.

Their accepted arrival Sekkab Jembrana I Ketut Wiryatmika, Plt Kadis Pertkutut IGN Sandjaja, I Made Dwipayana from Dinas Kessos, and penangung answer work province Gilimanuk I Gede Putu Widiarsa karantina.

To Wiryatmika, I Ketut Suata, from KKR Flu Burung Bali declared incident in Jembrana would entered external circumstances normal (KLB). "This has happen and us should immediate act and find strategis move secepatnya. We should sat together to find solusi on flu bird case that first in this Bali," ujarnya.

In kemarin meeting also disepakati are extra large meeting any with office in Jembrana. Attach will dilangsungkan Kamis, tomorrow.

http://www.jawapos.co.id/index.php?act=detail_radar&id=169868&c=94
 
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I believe that a news report from the Jakarta Post indicated that Dian, the daughter, was cremated the day she died (before they suspected bird flu). If so, where did the sample come from?
 
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I believe that a news report from the Jakarta Post indicated that Dian, the daughter, was cremated the day she died (before they suspected bird flu). If so, where did the sample come from?
Dunno. BGW speculated that perhaps the hospital in which she was treated did keep some samples and they were subsequently sent on to Jakarta. ??

The reports are still all so confusing at this point. I'm in 'wait and see' mode here. :confused:
 
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Daughter's disease onset was July 26
Mother's disease onset was August 3

8 day differential in disease onset dates = H2H

Since last August (2006) there have been 9 potential H5N1 human clusters with at least one individual in the cluster confirmed by WHO. Within 5 of those cluster where onset dates are available, the onset day differential ranges from 1-9 days.
 
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Dunno. BGW speculated that perhaps the hospital in which she was treated did keep some samples and they were subsequently sent on to Jakarta. ??

The reports are still all so confusing at this point. I'm in 'wait and see' mode here. :confused:

'Wait and see' mode for me, too. You would think that if the daughter was also confirmed positive that it would be referenced in the recent WHO update.

Avian influenza ? situation in Indonesia ? update 13

14 August 2007
The Ministry of Health of Indonesia has announced a new case of human infection of H5N1 avian influenza. A 29-year-old female from Bali Province developed symptoms on 3 August and was hospitalized on 7 August. She died on 12 August. Investigations into the source of her infection indicate exposure to sick and dead poultry.
The case's five-year-old daughter was sick with a respiratory illness in the days preceding the onset of illness in the confirmed case. The daughter's onset of symptoms was 26 July, she was hospitalized on 30 July but died without suspicion of avian influenza infection on 3 August in the district hospital. The child had contact with sick and dead poultry before becoming ill.
All of the household and healthcare worker contacts of the confirmed case have been traced. All remain healthy and will continue to be monitored for ten days after their last contact with the case.
Of the 103 cases confirmed to date in Indonesia, 82 have been fatal.
http://www.who.int/csr/don/2007_08_14a/en/index.html
 
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Here's an article about the isolation of the Jembrana region of Bali. Most of it was 'manually' machine-translated by bgw in MT (HUGE hat-tip to bgw!) -- the words highlighted in red are additional dictionary-translations by me.

It certainly seems pretty clear that the governor of Bali has decided to isolate the Jembrana region, but what exactly that entails isn't clear. The family has certainly been isolated, too.

Note that as of yesterday (Aug 14), some of the other family members had still not been examined by health authorities.

[Note also that the Indonesian word "pak" appears in the headline. Pak means father, but it can also be used to address an older man. So, I think the word "father" ("pak") in the headline is probably referring to the governor, especially given the word order.]


Dictionary-translated from Indonesian:

'Pak Gub' ['Father Governor'] decides to isolate Jembrana [Province]
Aug 15, 2007

Quick decisions taken Gubernur Bali Dewa Made Beratha in to take a stance avian virus spread influenza (AI) in Jembrana.

In next seconds journalist day repeat year (HUT) Bali to 49 in Wiswasabha yesterday (14/8), gubernur decided while time to isolate Jembrana province. Foremost resident that live in the falling location flu bird victim.


This case done to to underrate possibility virus cut the developed in external Jembrana. "We hope with virus and this way not spread to everywhere and direct poison stopped," said yesterday Gubernur Dewa Made Beratha.

What external incident status normal (KLB) prescribed in limited in Jembrana need desirable(?) to whole Bali? Ditanya the matter, gubernur expressed not need with victim and excuse falling a people new. "Do not diplintir news(?) to spread the effect large because for Bali. Tolonglah mind Bali. I not desire cover/shut/shut down information, but please careful. Do not arrive this incident made impact negative," clever/intelligent gubernur.

This need because dipertegas according to needle gubernur fell really, world will know. Different in identical incident happen in other district. So poison person will ignore and not care about.

Gubernur next compare with illness and circulation-blooded fever (DB). Although attack in massif and caused the falling victim, but even so to now KLB status do not have issued by governing.

In other side, with issue/issuance(?) Pemprov Bali decision that to isolate while Jembrana time, handle cold by Bupati Jembrana Gede Winasa. Find before register gubernur nomination Bali in DPD PDIP Bali Jalan Banteng secretariat yesterday, Winasa say, do not the problem of Pemprov produces the wisdom.

Toh, according to him, Jembrana not area tourism. "Also have not got that turis desire/will to Jembrana coke. So for us have not got problem," explicit.

Ago how with gubernur and tudingan, kecolongan Bali Jembrana because less react? Disodok so, Winasa asked not usah find black sheep. According to now, how overcome this problem so that H5N1 virus not current and developed to whole Bali. "I culculate, our no cause find black sheep. Let's us hand bergandeng overcome this question," ucapnya wise mencoba.

To it, selaku district head, his direct take firm measures. Apart from do depopulation (annihilation) for type bird with radius 1 kilometres that diperkirakan tuntas afternoon yesterday.

Pihaknya decided, whole type bird and bird penyanding didaerah will done vaksinasi. Including invigilate victim family, what the husband, old people's, relation/family, however tetangganya. This case needed because to yesterday, still there's some that relation/family not terdeteksi [examined by?] health.

Dikhawatirkan, if not monitored in bitter, virus propagation was not under control. "Inkubasi time (developed biak) this virus less more 10 day. So for 10 the day also whole relation/family and district our penyanding isolasi while time," added.

Issue/financial(?) approximations?" no problem. We has get it done fund not terduga through APBD. Jumlahnya do not limited, so calm just," answer Winasa.

How with victims? To victim, all has diasuransikan. First time himself admitted has gave fund Rp 1 million. And Yesterday morning, back his fund mengelontor the size of Rp 5 million to relation/family victim died. But according to, this help have not touched spare lost ternak hewan that confiscated.

While the possibility terkait flu virus this bird came from external Bali, Winasa do not argue/disagree. To it, task look after Bali not only found answer Jembrana. Winasa asked Pemprov Bali keep berperan. Satunya fallacy memperketat door out entered ternak hewan terutama type bird and bird that all these years done by karantina parties hewan, Gilimanuk harbour.

The problem, further he, karantina only cared for by 24 hours three people. With personnel that this minim terbilang, Winasa do not blame if kebobolan poison Bali." This not only kewenangan Jembrana, but Pemprov," bebernya.

Winasa also protested, the virus developed in the tropics colony (peternakan) but perorangan. "Society judge normal gerubug. So they do not know menahu. New know after eat victim," tegasnya.

What this incident not influential with pencalonannya now? Winasa word, have not got same their potency once." Because justru have this bird flu, my intend nominate yourself so that do not arrived Bali get flu bird," ungkapnya diplomatis.

Enough tamiflu, Kunjungan Wisman No Problem

While the dicegat disarrange ke-49 HUT Provinsi Bali, Kepala Dinas Kesehatan Bali Dewa Ketut Oka say, Tamiflu ketersedian in puskesmas maupun hospital in whole Bali, in adequate kondisi.

To tiap ill house in Kabupaten/city, Dinas Kesehatan has finish masing-masing 100 Tamiflu pill. While for Rumah Sakit Sanglah that ditunjuk as house main references pain, the totals ditambahi to 500 Tamiflu.

"We new give if has Tamiflu victim indikasi that flu bird terserang," ujar yesterday Dewa Oka. With incident this what penangulangan focus need dialihkan to Jembrana? Kadis Kesehatan word, no cause. To use sore house as references for flu bird sufferer, should there's individual standar that completely covered.

Apart from ketersedian sarana and prasarana, kualitas sense resources man's, also should diperhatikan. "No as easy as all that memindah. So fixed as references the hospital Sanglah," he said.

In other side, disarrange close together co-ordination with Departemen Kesehatan and Badan Kesehatan Dunia WHO, Kasubdin Pemberantasan Penyakit Menular and Penyehatan Lingkungan Pemukiman Dinas Kesehatan Bali Ketut Subrata expressed, from product last investigasi, not ditemukan again flu bird case.

Only only have hot symptoms high, cough and peak napas. According to him, Dinas Kesehatan has took blood sample 9 people Daging Tukadaya warga, terutama that owns contact with pasien died.

Ditambahkan, this investigasi diprioritaskan with used radius metode epidemilogi. Artinya, investigasi not only done in TKP but also in district around. " have not conclusion from product this investigasi. Yes secepatnya we work umumkan to publik, " tambahnya.

Clear he hope society improve alertness. If certainly ditemukan flu bird symptoms, society asked report to distrik officer survelence (DSO) that was in masing-masing kecamatan.

While the Kepala Dinas Pariwisata Gde Nurjaya, admitted have not influence what even virus findings flu bird that took a victim on foreign wisatawan visit. "Is have questions terutama from cliens our in Australia. But new sebatas questions, have not have arrived have penyetopan," akunya.

As evidence, him said, foreign wisatawan visit that to Bali now rose rata-rata 35 persen tiap bulannya. Even to this year first semester, visit figures touched 900 ribu from 1, 45 million that ditargetkan by Pemprov Bali.

"Origin there's upaya penanggulangan and our sosialisasikan with good, me culculate not a lot of that problems our temui, problem no. Para foreign wisatawan will fixed to come to Bali coke," pungkasnya.

http://www.jawapos.co.id/index.php?act=detail_radar&id=169864&c=94
 
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Sick Bali girl does not have bird flu
15th August 2007, 11:45 WST

A two-year-old girl on the Indonesian resort island of Bali has been cleared of carrying the deadly bird flu virus, which killed at least one of her neighbours, an official said today.

?We received the test results last night showing that the girl, two years old, is negative for the bird flu virus,? said Ningrum, a doctor from the national bird flu information centre in Jakarta.

Indonesia confirmed its first human bird flu death on Bali on Monday, taking the nation?s overall toll to more than 80 and raising fears of an impact on tourism, the economic lifeline of the island.

The 29-year-old female victim died at the weekend. Her five-year-old daughter died on August 3 suffering flu-like symptoms and her body was cremated before samples were taken for testing, but officials said it could be ?assumed? she died due to the virus.

Chickens had been dying in their village, on the north-west of the island far from the main tourist centres. The virus is typically transmitted to people via infected birds.

H5N1 is endemic across nearly all of Indonesia, which has recorded the highest number of bird flu deaths in the world since reporting its first case in July 2005.

Avian influenza was found in poultry on Bali more than a year ago, leading to the culling of hundreds of birds.

Officials in Jakarta have said they will step up measures on the island in a bid to limit any fallout to its tourism industry.

The H5N1 virus is regarded as a global threat because scientists fear it could mutate into a form that is easily spread among humans, leading to a pandemic with the potential to kill millions.

http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=29&ContentID=37447
 
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The English language media reports are conflicting, but the actual situation seems quite clear. The confusion is due to the interpretation of "both are positive". Some wire services assumed that "both" was the mother and daughter. Others assumed it was the mother and neighbor. However, it actually was both samples from the mother. This has bee clear for quite some time now, but the incorrect information is cited again and again.

Thus, articles in Indonesia that repeat either of the incorrect interpretations are also incorrect, even though the story is written in Indonesian.
 
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The English language media reports are conflicting, but the actual situation seems quite clear. The confusion is due to the interpretation of "both are positive". Some wire services assumed that "both" was the mother and daughter. Others assumed it was the mother and neighbor. However, it actually was both samples from the mother. This has bee clear for quite some time now, but the incorrect information is cited again and again.

Thus, articles in Indonesia that repeat either of the incorrect interpretations are also incorrect, even though the story is written in Indonesian.

Unfortunately, this post didn't clear up my confusion. I understand that "both" means 2 samples from the "mother". Are you aware of any testing and/or results from her child (not sampled per statements) or from the neighbor child? Any clarification would be appreciated.
 
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Unfortunately, this post didn't clear up my confusion. I understand that "both" means 2 samples from the "mother". Are you aware of any testing and/or results from her child (not sampled per statements) or from the neighbor child? Any clarification would be appreciated.
There were no samples available from the daughter and the neighbor was negative for H5N1.
 
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