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Re: NAMRU banned from Indonesia
Re: NAMRU banned from Indonesia
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NAMRU The American Spy? Had Not Reported Results Of His Research
Minggu, 20 April 2008
Jakarta, Padek -- The People's Representative Council Circle asked the government to close all the Naval Medical Research activity (NAMRU) in Indonesia. The reason is, the co-operation contract with the United States agency of the naval research and Indonesia has been finished. Moreover, NAMRU it was suspected carried out the espionage activity apart from the health research. "Already since long before the government did not stress. Be closed, was asked to go out from Indonesia," said Vice Chairman Komisi III Soeripto to this newspaper yesterday.
According to the former member the National Intelligence Coordination Body, necessarily results of the NAMRU research were reported to the Indonesian research agency. However, uptil now NAMRU had not reported him. Moreover, said Soeripto, the Indonesian researcher who became the colleague in the agency could not be independent. Soeripto added, the NAMRU activity must be indicated in relation to various horizontal conflicts that happened in Indonesia the eastern part. The reason is, uptil now the potential for the highest conflict happened in Indonesia the eastern part. Moreover, coverage (the power reached out) the NAMRU research territory was also was in the territory.
Has BIN [National Intelligence Agency] been asked to speak? According to Soeripto, BIN never specifically reported the existence of the espionage activity that was carried out by NAMRU. "BIN did not yet report case that was strong enough the existence of the activity espionage," he said. NAMRU (Naval Medical Research Unit) was the health unit of the American navy that was in Indonesia to hold various researches concerning infectious diseases. The laboratory was located in Street Percetakan Negara, the Rawasari region, Jakarta Central. NAMRU the first time was in Indonesia during 1970 to research infectious diseases viruses in the interest of the US Navy and the Department of Defence.
The NAMRU formation agreement, was signed on January 16 1970 between the Indonesian government and the United States. In the agreement, said Soeripto, many articles that were seen not more beneficial Indonesia. Apart from the article that required all the staffs NAMRU to receive diplomatic facilities, there was articles that mentioned they must be permitted with words "should be permitted", like to enter all the Indonesian territory, except for the area was banned for reasons of the security.
In fact the matter of the work was the same as NAMRU this had become the hot boil since long ago. Around 1997, the pressure from some officials for revision emerged. Negotiations experienced the impasse to the end during 2000 the Foreign Affairs Minister at that time Alwi Shihab corresponded to the United States Embassy, ended the co-operation. However, unclear his reason, he afterwards changed. The co-operation stayed proceeding until had the new agreement.
This problem stuck again up after United States Health Minister Michael O Leavitt visited to Jakarta on Monday (14/04) beginnings of this week. "I indeed delivered to Leavitt why the health laboratory how come was supervised by the military. Later if my people asked, I will have difficulty explained," said Health Minister Siti Fadilah Supari when being met Javanese Pos (group Padang Ekspres) in his house of Street Denpasar 14 Jakarta yesterday (19/04).
The question, said Siti, was answered by Leavitt in a diplomatic manner. "They said that has been normal," he said. That, said Leavitt natural and usual was done in the United States. Menkes told, how Leavitt could offer the co-operation scientifik with the United States side. "For the co-operation scientic exchange. I really support for example for the training of my official. That was good," he said. However, the NAMRU matter, his side for the time being forbade all the hospital to store the sample of the virus in the agency. "See you later was MoU and the MTA agreement (material Trade Agreement) that was clear and certain," said Siti that appeared neat with the green colour clothes.
Uptil now had the official report on the NAMRU activity in Indonesia to Menkes? Siti shook his head. "If courtesy call once," he said. In fact when to be precise NAMRU was finished the contract? Siti then asked for his staff of Endang explained. According to Endang, in fact the contract agreement has with NAMRU ended since the last eight years (2000).
"But, the research that already once going still continued to go," he said.
At the beginning of July 2005, the NAMRU side that the first time helped the handling of the bird flu virus in Indonesia. All the researches were carried out by NAMRU. Moreover, sent sample the virus then went through NAMRU. "Wanted how again, at that time we still could not anything," interrupted Siti. In January 2007 the co-operation stopped, because of the Indonesian researcher having the capacity personally. "Now that once going was the influenza research, dengue fever, and diarrhoea," said Endang.
The explanation was responded to by Menkes. "My relations in fact nice with NAMRU. I only asked why until this did not yet have results concrete that was significant for the direct people," said Siti Fadilah. Separately, the spokesperson Foreign Affairs Department Kristiarto Suryo Legowo said the government sent the draft of the MOU (Memorandum Of Understanding) the Naval Medical Research Unit agreement 2 (NAMRU 2) to the United States. However now the USA does still not give the response to this MOU draft.
The source Javanese Pos (group Padang Ekspres) tell about, the security of NAMRU access very tight. "Only people with ID certain and already verified that could enter," he said. NAMRU facilities, said the source, also very sophisticated. "Clear, not merely the health laboratory," he said. Moreover, because of the NAMRU importance, George W Bush's president until must visit to Bogor in 2006. "Bush asked directly to SBY so that NAMRU not box-dwarf," he said.
According to the source, NAMRU facilities available in Papua more sophisticated. "They researched sample people's blood Papua, even our troops," said the source. The member the Commission 1 Djoko Susilo considered staff's diplomatic immunity NAMRU could be the government entrance to clarify mysterious him NAMRU. "We had been invited there. But, we did not want. This the country had sovereignty, if they meant well necessarily they who came to the People's Representative Council," he said.
http://www.padangekspres.co.id/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3611
Re: NAMRU banned from Indonesia
Credits to dbg . . .
NAMRU The American Spy? Had Not Reported Results Of His Research
Minggu, 20 April 2008
Jakarta, Padek -- The People's Representative Council Circle asked the government to close all the Naval Medical Research activity (NAMRU) in Indonesia. The reason is, the co-operation contract with the United States agency of the naval research and Indonesia has been finished. Moreover, NAMRU it was suspected carried out the espionage activity apart from the health research. "Already since long before the government did not stress. Be closed, was asked to go out from Indonesia," said Vice Chairman Komisi III Soeripto to this newspaper yesterday.
According to the former member the National Intelligence Coordination Body, necessarily results of the NAMRU research were reported to the Indonesian research agency. However, uptil now NAMRU had not reported him. Moreover, said Soeripto, the Indonesian researcher who became the colleague in the agency could not be independent. Soeripto added, the NAMRU activity must be indicated in relation to various horizontal conflicts that happened in Indonesia the eastern part. The reason is, uptil now the potential for the highest conflict happened in Indonesia the eastern part. Moreover, coverage (the power reached out) the NAMRU research territory was also was in the territory.
Has BIN [National Intelligence Agency] been asked to speak? According to Soeripto, BIN never specifically reported the existence of the espionage activity that was carried out by NAMRU. "BIN did not yet report case that was strong enough the existence of the activity espionage," he said. NAMRU (Naval Medical Research Unit) was the health unit of the American navy that was in Indonesia to hold various researches concerning infectious diseases. The laboratory was located in Street Percetakan Negara, the Rawasari region, Jakarta Central. NAMRU the first time was in Indonesia during 1970 to research infectious diseases viruses in the interest of the US Navy and the Department of Defence.
The NAMRU formation agreement, was signed on January 16 1970 between the Indonesian government and the United States. In the agreement, said Soeripto, many articles that were seen not more beneficial Indonesia. Apart from the article that required all the staffs NAMRU to receive diplomatic facilities, there was articles that mentioned they must be permitted with words "should be permitted", like to enter all the Indonesian territory, except for the area was banned for reasons of the security.
In fact the matter of the work was the same as NAMRU this had become the hot boil since long ago. Around 1997, the pressure from some officials for revision emerged. Negotiations experienced the impasse to the end during 2000 the Foreign Affairs Minister at that time Alwi Shihab corresponded to the United States Embassy, ended the co-operation. However, unclear his reason, he afterwards changed. The co-operation stayed proceeding until had the new agreement.
This problem stuck again up after United States Health Minister Michael O Leavitt visited to Jakarta on Monday (14/04) beginnings of this week. "I indeed delivered to Leavitt why the health laboratory how come was supervised by the military. Later if my people asked, I will have difficulty explained," said Health Minister Siti Fadilah Supari when being met Javanese Pos (group Padang Ekspres) in his house of Street Denpasar 14 Jakarta yesterday (19/04).
The question, said Siti, was answered by Leavitt in a diplomatic manner. "They said that has been normal," he said. That, said Leavitt natural and usual was done in the United States. Menkes told, how Leavitt could offer the co-operation scientifik with the United States side. "For the co-operation scientic exchange. I really support for example for the training of my official. That was good," he said. However, the NAMRU matter, his side for the time being forbade all the hospital to store the sample of the virus in the agency. "See you later was MoU and the MTA agreement (material Trade Agreement) that was clear and certain," said Siti that appeared neat with the green colour clothes.
Uptil now had the official report on the NAMRU activity in Indonesia to Menkes? Siti shook his head. "If courtesy call once," he said. In fact when to be precise NAMRU was finished the contract? Siti then asked for his staff of Endang explained. According to Endang, in fact the contract agreement has with NAMRU ended since the last eight years (2000).
"But, the research that already once going still continued to go," he said.
At the beginning of July 2005, the NAMRU side that the first time helped the handling of the bird flu virus in Indonesia. All the researches were carried out by NAMRU. Moreover, sent sample the virus then went through NAMRU. "Wanted how again, at that time we still could not anything," interrupted Siti. In January 2007 the co-operation stopped, because of the Indonesian researcher having the capacity personally. "Now that once going was the influenza research, dengue fever, and diarrhoea," said Endang.
The explanation was responded to by Menkes. "My relations in fact nice with NAMRU. I only asked why until this did not yet have results concrete that was significant for the direct people," said Siti Fadilah. Separately, the spokesperson Foreign Affairs Department Kristiarto Suryo Legowo said the government sent the draft of the MOU (Memorandum Of Understanding) the Naval Medical Research Unit agreement 2 (NAMRU 2) to the United States. However now the USA does still not give the response to this MOU draft.
The source Javanese Pos (group Padang Ekspres) tell about, the security of NAMRU access very tight. "Only people with ID certain and already verified that could enter," he said. NAMRU facilities, said the source, also very sophisticated. "Clear, not merely the health laboratory," he said. Moreover, because of the NAMRU importance, George W Bush's president until must visit to Bogor in 2006. "Bush asked directly to SBY so that NAMRU not box-dwarf," he said.
According to the source, NAMRU facilities available in Papua more sophisticated. "They researched sample people's blood Papua, even our troops," said the source. The member the Commission 1 Djoko Susilo considered staff's diplomatic immunity NAMRU could be the government entrance to clarify mysterious him NAMRU. "We had been invited there. But, we did not want. This the country had sovereignty, if they meant well necessarily they who came to the People's Representative Council," he said.
http://www.padangekspres.co.id/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3611