Kazakhstan Covid-19: 106729 cases, 1634 deaths

[sharon sanders]

Posted on the Sina platform which is a major China media -


Release time: 2020-07-10 09:11:08 Source: Surging News

Channel: News Center / News Video
Tags: health care

Introduction:
Kazakhstan's Minister of Health informed the media on the 9th that the incidence of pneumonia in China increased by 55.4% in the first half of this year compared with the same period in 2019, and a total of 98,546 cases were diagnosed. A total of 1772 people died of pneumonia in the first half of the year, and 628 people died in June alone. Some of these pneumonia patients are common pneumonia, and the cause of infection in other patients is not yet clear. Rogerson, an immunology expert in the country, pointed out that in addition to new coronary pneumonia, Kazakhstan is epidemic with another pneumonia epidemic whose cause is not yet clear. No COVID-19 virus has been detected in patients with this type of pneumonia. "Although the cause cannot be confirmed 100%, 99.999% is still a coronavirus."


https://video.sina.com.cn/p/news/202...1541857.d.html

 

[gsgs]

https://zonakz.net/2020/07/03/vlasti...enie-epidemii/

[Jul03]

> ... Recall, according to the latest data, in Kazakhstan for the first half of 2020
> in 1772 people fell ill with pneumonia.



Sharon's post #85 , quoting the Chinese embassy to Kazakhstan :

> pneumonia caused 1772 deaths



so the Chinese mistranslated "fell ill" to "died" ?

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yearly deaths in Kazakhstan from pneumonia (J12-J18) 2013,2014,2015,2017 :

3039,3230,4100,----,3607
~80% of these are J18, organism unspecified and ~15% are J15, bacterial pneumonia

1772 pneumonia deaths in Kazakhstan in the first half of 2020 would be normal

[delete this ?]

 

[gsgs]

here a newspaper article in Russian from Jun24 from the head of department in Pavlodar:
https://www.caravan.kz/news/koronavi...darcev-649491/
The coronavirus has receded, and now pneumonia attacks Pavlodar

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English report : https://www.lenta.inform.kz/en/pavl...eumonia-and-sars-cases-amid-pandemic_a3667255

 

[kiwibird]

http://www.xjcdc.com/wap/content.aspx?id=3408

The CDC visited Kashgar Province, bordering Kyrgyzstan end of May.

On May 26-29, 2020, Cui Yan, the director of the CDC, and his team of 4 people conducted on-site investigation and guidance on the prevention and control of new coronary pneumonia, tuberculosis, and AIDS in some counties in the Kashgar region. On the morning of May 30, a symposium on the prevention and treatment of new coronary pneumonia, tuberculosis and AIDS was organized in the Center for Disease Control of Kashgar. The persons in charge of the Kashgar District Health Commission, CDC, Pulmonary Hospital, Regional First People's Hospital (Infectious Disease Hospital), Kashi City, Shufu County, Shule County CDC and designated tuberculosis prevention and treatment hospitals and related personnel attended the meeting.

https://www.newsbreak.com/news/0Ntz1...jiang-ministry Xinjiang January 2020 - region borders both Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan

BEIJING (Reuters) - China's agriculture ministry said on Tuesday it had found the highly pathogenic H5N6 strain of avian flu in swans in its western Xinjiang region. The case is the fourth this month of the strain in swans in Xinjiang.

 

[gsgs]

here the A.Tsoi - statement :
https://www.caravan.kz/news/v-rk-pac...ontrol-653915/

JULY 10
50% more pneumonia than last year, unrelated to COVID, he thinks it's a worldwide phenomenon

 

[kiwibird]

https://www.inform.kz/cn/article_a3670851

Deputy Minister of Health: Patients with community-acquired pneumonia should receive treatment drugs for free


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Hartung News Agency/Nur-Sultan/July 9th - Kazakhstan’s Deputy Minister of Health Liudmila Pyulabekova said at a press conference that patients with community-acquired pneumonia should receive treatment medication free of charge.

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[kiwibird]

http://zhishifenzi.com/news/medicine/9410.html

"Influenza virus in community acquired pneumonia - current understanding and knowledge gaps" - an article published on the 10th June

 

[kiwibird]

http://china.qianlong.com/2020/0710/4404843.shtml

"Regarding the above mentions "unknown pneumonia" news, Fu Hua Univerity professor Fu Hua stated that, under the premise that everyhting is not clear, it is impossible to judge whether there is a new virus in Kazakhstan, whether the new coronvirus is mutated, or whether it will break out. However, the exposure of these phenomena will make our current epidemic prevention work more difficult. At present, it is important to strengthen our border quarantine, pay close attention to the local situation, strengthen international cooperation, and strictly prevent the introduction into China."

 

[kiwibird]

gs - have a look at this https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum...cases-1-366-cases-7-deaths-in-hospital/page33

 

[kiwibird]

https://flutrackers.com/forum/forum...cases-1-366-cases-7-deaths-in-hospital/page33

http://china.qianlong.com/2020/0710/4404843.shtml
"Since mid-Jun, Hong Kong has had no new confirmed cases of new pneumonia for 21 consecutive days, but the situation has recently changed. Especilly on the 9th, 42 new cases of new pneumonia were diagnosed in Hong Kong on that day, of which 34 were local cases. This was the day when Hong Kong had the most new local cases since the outbreak in January. The most concerned thing is that cases of unknown origin continue to appear. In the past week, a total of 12 cases of unknown origin spread over Hong Kong Island, Kowloon and the New Territories. This shows that invisible transmission chains have been hidden in Hong Kong.
...
He Bailang also said that the virus is constantly changing. Some studies have shown that after March, the position of one of the proteins has changed. After the virus structure has changed a new virus species has become popular worldwide. The virus can reproduce in the upper respiratory tract of patients. The number and rate of reproduction are accelerating, so the amount of virus detected in the upper respiratory tract of patients recently is significantly higher than that of three months ago. The mutation of the virus also caused this round of epidemic to be more severe than before.

The reporter noted that on the 9th of Hong Kong, 42 new cases of new pneumonia were diagnosed, of which 8 were imported cases, and 5 of them were from Kazakhstan.

 

[kiwibird]

http://www.mychinanews.com/news/n/1/2489910

The Chinese Embassy in Kazakhstan issued an announcement on the 9th that Chinese citizens in Kazakhstan had died of unknown pneumonia. The embassy reminded Chinese citizens to effectively raise awareness of prevention and reduce the risk of infection.
As of the 9th, Kazakhstan had a total of 53,021 newly diagnosed patients with new coronary pneumonia, 31,277 cured, and 264 died. Kazakh media reported on the 7th that 28,000 people in Kazakhstan are currently hospitalized for severe pneumonia, and 330 of them are in critical condition, but their new coronavirus test results are negative.

 

[kiwibird]

https://www.inform.kz/kz/kazakstanda...e-kop_a3670801

NUR-SULTAN. KAZINFORM - Pneumonia is 2-3 times more common than coronavirus. The Minister of Health of Kazakhstan, Alexei Tsoi, informed, Kazinform correspondent reports. RELATED NEWS The number of cases of pneumonia is decreasing in Aktobe region Is it true that pneumonia is more dangerous in Kazakhstan than coronavirus: Ministry's note The Ministry inspects the activities of the Social Medical Insurance Fund Alexei Tsoi urged not to use artificial lung ventilation "In general, nothing is hidden. We also show the number of cases of pneumonia. In the near future, we intend to do this on a regular basis, providing accurate data. In my opinion, there are no obstacles to the disclosure of such data. But everyone should understand the real scale, "the Minister said at a briefing in the Central Communications Service today. According to him, currently the number of people infected with pneumonia is much higher than those infected with the coronavirus. "Pneumonia is 2-3 times more common than cases of coronavirus infection. Currently, such an increase is observed. There have been deaths recently. We say this to make it more realistic. We plan to publish such data on our website or in sources. As for the timing, next week we will try to capture this information and make it public. Doctors see such data. If the people are interested in it, then we are ready to recommend it, "Alexei Tsoi said.

Барлық құқықтар қорғалған. inform.kz белсенді сілтемені пайдаланыңыз https://www.inform.kz/kz/kazakstanda...e-kop_a3670801

 

[kiwibird]

https://www.inform.kz/kz/kazakstanda-pnevmoniyamen-kansha-adam-auruhanada-zhatyr_a3669902

....Today, 28,000 patients with negative pneumonia (coronavirus) and pneumonia are being treated in hospitals across the country. 98.9% of patients are assessed as moderately ill. 330 of them are in critical condition. In addition, more than 4,000 people are being treated in hospitals with negative PCR tests for ARVI or other influenza, ”Vice Minister of Health Azhar Giniyat said at a press conference in the Central Communications Service. According to him, today all clinics, ambulances and hospitals are actively working to organize medical care.

Барлық құқықтар қорғалған. inform.kz белсенді сілтемені пайдаланыңыз https://www.inform.kz/kz/kazakstanda-pnevmoniyamen-kansha-adam-auruhanada-zhatyr_a3669902

 

[sharon sanders]

Sadly, I do not know if this situation is a China misinformation campaign against Kazakhstan since April or a real threat.

For now we are posting these pneumonia articles to the Kazakhstan coronavirus thread since this makes the most logical sense. If the developing facts lead to something else we will separate into a new thread.

 

[sharon sanders]

Partial notes from W.H.O. presser by @kakape

Q about reports of severe pneumonias in Kazakhstan. There has been a surge in #covid19 cases, says
@DrMikeRyan

We're looking at the actual testing and the quality of the testing to make sure that there haven't been false negative tests for some of those other pneumonias."
12:23 PM ? Jul 10, 2020

Kai Kupferschmidt

@kakape
?
18m
Replying to
@kakape
@DrTedros
and 2 others
Says
@WHO
is also working with authorities in Kazakhstan to review x-rays and "look at the patterns of the pneumonias to make sure that they're consistent with #covid19". But: “While we believe that many of these cases will be diagnosed as #COVID19, we keep an open mind."

 

[gsgs]

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> Kazakhstan's Minister of Health informed the media on the 9th that the incidence of
> pneumonia in China increased by 55.4% in the first half of this year compared with the
> same period in 2019, and a total of 98,546 cases were diagnosed.

presumably "in Kazakhstan" , not "in China"

> A total of 1772 people died of pneumonia in the first half of the year,

from the WHO-data I conclude that this is normal. But they say it's 50% more
than in 2019, so for some reason 2019 was very mild [?]

> and 628 people died in June alone

that's ~400 more than expected, ~200 are official COVID, additional COVID-related-deaths
were seen elsewhere, but mostly from cardiovascular reasons (NYC)

> Some of these pneumonia patients are common pneumonia, and the cause of infection
> in other patients is not yet clear. Rogerson, an immunology expert in the country,
> pointed out that in addition to new coronary pneumonia, Kazakhstan is epidemic
> with another pneumonia epidemic whose cause is not yet clear.

but why the increase just now ?

> No COVID-19 virus has been detected in patients with this type of pneumonia.
> "Although the cause cannot be confirmed 100%, 99.999% is still a coronavirus."

what ? "a coronavirus" ? not "the coronavirus" ? and why 99.999% ?

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https://www.scmp.com/news/world/rus...akhstan-health-ministry-rejects-chinese-claim
According to Russian news agency Sputnik News, Rafail Rosenson, an immunologist from
Astana Medical University, said most of the cases should be Covid-19
“It is impossible to say 100 per cent, but 99.99 per cent they were caused by the coronavirus.
Because in the past there have never been community-acquired viral pneumonias in June,” the doctor said.

### the concern is, that it's related to COVID, triggered by COVID,, but ir is not just COVID
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> We plan to publish such data on our website or in sources. As for the timing, next week
> we will try to capture this information and make it public. Doctors see such data. If the
> people are interested in it, then we are ready to recommend it, "Alexei Tsoi said.

good !
So, Kazakhstan has actual numbers of pneumonia deaths and probably
deaths from all causes. Per half-years at least, maybe by quartals, or -as usual- by month.
Especially, how did it go in Pavlodar ?

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> China misinformation campaign a

no, the numbers were correctly quoted and are confirmed. They may have overinterpreted it.
But IMO it's wrong by Kazakhstan to just say "fake news" without clarifying about the numbers
or their interpretation.

> into a new thread.

link ?

 

[gsgs]

OK -- rereading the articles -- it seems that Kazakhstan meant that this it's probably all COVID, although
many cases are not confirmed or not even tested , and thus are classified as "pneumonia,unclear origin" .

While apparently China (and I) first had misinterpreted that wording.

 

[sharon sanders]

56,455 cases, 264 deaths

https://hls.kz/

 

[kiwibird]

Slightly different article https://www.tellerreport.com/news/2...fied-pneumonia-in-the-country.SJLOudiSJw.html
"On the 9th, Chinese media quoted Kazakh media reports that a kind of unknown pneumonia with a high fatality rate is prevalent in Kazakhstan. As early as June 29th, Kazakh immunology expert Rafael Rogerson said in an interview with the national media that in addition to the new coronary pneumonia epidemic, the cause of another type of pneumonia that is currently circulating is not clear. No COVID-19 virus has been detected in patients with this type of pneumonia. "The reason cannot be confirmed 100%, but 99.999% is still a new corona virus," Rogerson said."

 

[kiwibird]

https://www.zakon.kz/5031511-tokaev-...ituatsiya.html

"In the first half of 2020, cases with pneumonia were recorded - 98,546. In 2019, there were 63,436 cases, or 55.4% growth. These figures are officially automatically raised from each medical organization, there are such calculations," the minister replied.
According to him, in the first half of the year 1772 Kazakhstanis died from pneumonia. For the same period in 2019, 1780 deaths from the disease were recorded.
“This is a very large indicator. With a minus sign,” the president said.
Choi also cited data that in June 2020 the number of registered deaths from pneumonia increased by 2.3 times and amounted to 628 cases, in June last year there were 274 such cases.

The efforts of the Ministry of Health should be directed to pneumonia. Look at what is being done, the president commented.​

Kasym-Zhomart Kemelevich, we monitor them. Given this pneumonia, all reserve beds are deployed. Because we have half of all the patients who are now - they are with pneumonia, unspecified [type - ed.]. We take this into account, including in the need for beds, and in ventilation machines, the minister explained.​

The head of state called the current situation an emergency. And he noted that we must admit that the mortality from it is very high.
"The mortality rate is high from pneumonia, yes. Only from July 1 to July 8, 2020, 56 809 cases of pneumonia were registered. That is, there is a sharp increase in a week," Tsoi admitted.
"What kind of pneumonia is this? What is its nature?" Tokaev asked.

Here inside we laid them out. There are viral pneumonia here - it's 7348, bacterial - 9759, these are the usual pneumonia. And there are unspecified viral pneumonias, which now have similar currents with coronavirus infection - this is 39,702, - said Tsoi.​

“You should now direct your efforts not only to the coronavirus itself, but also to the concomitant diseases, which I said in my statement - this is pneumonia. It is impossible to close our eyes or somehow try to obscure this problem. People are dying. They’re very ill, ”summed up Kasym-Zhomart Tokaev.