Indonesian Human Cases Oct 5th to Oct 20th, 2007

[Gert van der Hoek]

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Indonesia Confirms 109th Bird Flu Human Case

Jakarta, October 11, 2007 - Bird Flu Information Center - Test results from the Health Research and Development Center of the Ministry of Health confirmed that IR, a 12-year old boy from Tangerang District in Banten province, is the latest human case of avian influenza in Indonesia.

The boy had onset on 30 September 2007 and was examined by a midwife on 3 - 4 October 2007 before being taken to Tangerang Hospital on 8 October 2007.

He was then reffered to Persahabatan Hospital in Jakarta on 9 October 2007 with symptoms of fever, leucopenia, thrombositopenia and pneumonia.

Until today, the patient is still hospitalized at Persahabatan Hospital in Jakarta.

This case brings Indonesia confirmed bird flu on human tolls at 109 cases with 87 fatalities.

http://www.komnasfbpi.go.id/berita_eng.php?id=19

Note: case map from KOMNAS FBPI attached, does not include the 3 latest positive cases. For a summary of confirmed cases in Indonesia, see this thread: http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18639

 

[Gert van der Hoek]

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Indonesian boy tests positive for bird flu

JAKARTA, Oct 11 (Reuters) - A 12-year-old Indonesian boy has tested positive for bird flu, and is being treated in a Jakarta hospital, a health ministry official said on Thursday.

The ministry's bird flu centre's Muhammad Nadirin said it was not clear how the boy from Tanggerang city in West Java, contracted the virus, but some chickens had died in his neighbourhood.

The most common way to contract the deadly virus is through sick fowl.

The disease is endemic in the bird population in most parts of Indonesia, where millions of backyard fowl are kept in close proximity to humans and where education campaigns often do not reach remote areas.

Muchtar Ichsan, a doctor at the hospital, said the boy has been taken to an isolated room and was on a respiratory device.

Indonesia has 109 confirmed cases of human bird flu, 87 of them fatal, the highest in the world.

http://wap.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/JAK196146.htm

 

[Gert van der Hoek]

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Update on the nurses of Linda

Two Treatment Workers Suspect Bird Flu

http://www.lampungpost.com/cetak/berita.php?id=2007101103300830

October 11, 2007:

Pekanbaru (Lampost) : Two hospital medical staffers at (RS) RS Awal Bros, Pekanbaru, have been stated as suspect bird flu. Previously they had direct contact with a bird flu patient that died. It was determined that the two medical personnel that had conducted the standard bird flu patient handling (SOP) had direct contact. The two nurses with the initials NI and MR are now still under strict supervision.

"Before the two medical staffers suffered a high fever of 38 degrees. Although it is now passed off as standard operational bird flu handling, at this time he/she is automatically stated to be a bird flu suspect, " said Gizi Kasubdin, Medical Service, Riau Province Health Agency, Burhanudin Agung, in Pekanbaru, Rabu (10-10).

Although he mentioned that the case is NOT evidence of the presence of early contagion of the bird flu virus from human to human. During all these years, the diffusion of the virus has been from bird to human.

"Despite this, the status of this second medical staffer has now received further careful individual attention from the Health Department (Depkes)," said Agung.

Agung also said that although they are bird flu suspect, at this time the two medical staffers (at?) RS Awal Bros was not dispatched to individual bird flu patient isolation treatment space in RSUD Arifin Ahmad. Because the condition of the two originally improved.

"At this time there is no cause for the nurses to stay overnight in the bird flu isolation space. The matter is permitted by their condition, because at this time they are beginning to become healthy and have ceased suffering more clinical symptoms. At this time there are enough nurses monitoring the paramedic in own RS Awal Bros," said Agung.

Last Friday in town at RSUD, a patient named Linda (44) died. The diagnosis of the sample mentioned that the resident, a woman from Subdistrict Rumbai Pekanbaru, was positively infected with the bird flu virus.

Before being referred to RSUD Arifin Ahmad, Linda, the deceased, at the time was attended in RS Chevron and RS Awal Bros. Nevertheless the second hospital that handled the patient did not know if she was infected with the bird flu virus.

Later is was known that the victim was infected with the bird flu virus after being reconciled to RSUD Arifin Ahmad. Her condition continued to become mortally weak, finally this woman died paro (translates as half). Linda, was attended by the two nurses.

credits History Lover; translation edited.

Note, worth to repeat:

"Although he mentioned that the case is NOT evidence of the presence of early contagion of the bird flu virus from human to human"

Edit: added an important word: NOT

 

[Gert van der Hoek]

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Note, worth to repeat:

"Although he mentioned that the case is evidence of the presence of early contagion of the bird flu virus from human to human"

Not sure about the translation, I am going to sleep now, but in the original text it says "tidak", means "no" or "not". This should be checked.

 

[Commonground]

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[This is my word for word translation of the same sentence]

"Even though such was the case important no bold mention matter that as if proof early presence contagion virus bird flu from human being to human being. As long as this spreading virus [up to now/only] to be known from poultry to human being."

[Seems to make quite a difference if you put "up to now" vs. "only".] :banghead:

Adding Edit:
O.K. Here's another translation using different definitions of the same exact words:

"Although such was the case, Agung not at all bold call matter that as proof early beginning existance contagion virus flu from human being to human being."

 

[Gert van der Hoek]

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Friday, 12/10/2007 12:18 WIB

Nurses from RS Awal Bross that died Negative Bird Flu

Burung Siswanto - Okezone

Jakarta - the Department of the Health denied two nurses in RS Awal of the Brooch, Pekanbaru, Riau died because infected by bird flu.

After being carried out by the inspection, was not found by the existence of the virus H5N1.

"I already confirmation evidently the bird flu negative," said Health Minister Siti Fadilah Supari in gaps open house in the service house, Street Denpasar Raya, Southern Jakarta, on Friday (12/10/2007).

To be known, two nurses in RS Awal Bross, Pekanbaru died.


Suspected, both of them died after carrying out the maintenance to the patient suspect bird flu in this hospital.

"The nurse evidently not that treated the bird flu patient," added the minister for this heart specialist.

Could be reported, the two patients that also the nurse had carried out direct contact with suspect bird flu.
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http://www.okezone.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=53679&Itemid=67



Original text for reference:

Perawat RS Awal Bros yang Meninggal Negatif Flu Burung
Siswanto - Okezone

JAKARTA - Departemen Kesehatan membantah dua perawat di RS Awal Bros, Pekanbaru, Riau meninggal karena terjangkit flu burung. Setelah dilakukan pemeriksaan, tidak ditemukan adanya virus H5N1.

"Saya sudah konfirmasi ternyata negatif flu burung," ujar Menteri Kesehatan Siti Fadilah Supari di sela-sela open house di rumah dinas, Jalan Denpasar Raya, Jakarta Selatan, Jumat (12/10/2007).

Untuk diketahui, dua perawat di RS Awal Bros, Pekanbaru meninggal dunia. Diduga, keduanya meninggal dunia setelah melakukan perawatan kepada pasien suspect flu burung di rumah sakit tersebut.

"Perawat itu ternyata bukan yang merawat pasien flu burung," tambah menteri spesialis jantung ini. Sempat diberitakan, kedua pasien yang juga perawat itu pernah melakukan kontak langsung dengan suspect flu burung. (ism)

 

[Gert van der Hoek]

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Note, worth to repeat:

"Although he mentioned that the case is evidence of the presence of early contagion of the bird flu virus from human to human"

Not sure about the translation, I am going to sleep now, but in the original text it says "tidak", means "no" or "not". This should be checked.

Toggletext:

Nevertheless, Agung did not dare to acknowledge that as beginning proof of the existence of the spread of the bird flu virus from humankind to humankind.

So Agung says "I dare NOT to acknowlegde this as beginning of etc."

Looking at the latest news about the 2 nurses who died, tested negative, well.....

 

[Gert van der Hoek]

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Jum'at, 12/10/2007 13:33 WIB



Minister of Health Denies Bird Flu Spread Human to Human

Siswanto - Okezone

Jakarta -Spread him came back the case of bird flu in Indonesia happened after the patient suspect died in Pekanbaru, Riau.

The Health Minister (menkes) Siti Fadilah Supari denied the existence of the spread of the deadly virus human to human.

"That was expected as human to human transmition that in fact is not yet now," said Menkes Siti Fadilah Supari at home the service, Street Denpasar Raya, Southern Jakarta, on Friday (12/10/2007).

According to him, when having one poultry that was infected then could cause very fast to spread to that was other.

Finally, the virus could from the poultry spread humankind directly.

edit: toggletexted the last 2 sentences:,

With the direct spread, not significant spread to humankind, he stressed again.

For the total case of bird flu in the homeland achieved 108 cases, and 87 people including dying. Last casualty was a woman have the initials L (44) the resident of the complex of Caltex Pacific Indonesia (CPI), the Lembah Damai District, Kecamatan Rumbai, Pekan Baru, Riau.


http://www.okezone.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=53700&Itemid=67

 

[Gert van der Hoek]

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Personal note: I can't hardly believe the two nurses in Pekanbaru Hosptital died, however the report says so.

Waiting for confirmation from other sources.

 

[Commonground]

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After that last translation ordeal - I would take the sentences and translate them word for word with a dictionary.
I can't understand these nurses dying either?

 

[Gert van der Hoek]

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After that last translation ordeal - I would take the sentences and translate them word for word with a dictionary.
I can't understand these nurses dying either?

I agree we have to be carefull with translations. And translations of translations.That is what happened with the other report yesterday: to far drifted away from the original text.

But in this case: keduanya meninggal dunia is

"both of them / the two of them

died/expired / left this world" .

No doubts here on the translation.

 

[Gert van der Hoek]

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Detik news reports negative testresults, with quote's from Supari herself, in the midst of the Idul Fitri celebration.

- no mentioning of the condition or alternative diagnosis, or death of the two nurses initials NI and MR

- they were not attending the bird flu patient who died (earlier reports say they did)

- there is no human-to-human bird flu in Indonesia

toggletext out, translation later.


http://www.detiknews.com/index.php/...0/tgl/12/time/145245/idnews/840972/idkanal/10

 

[Commonground]

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No, I translated it word for word, and it's exactly like your article.
I have found nothing at my sites that I cover.

 

[Gert van der Hoek]

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Detik news reports negative testresults, with quote's from Supari herself, in the midst of the Idul Fitri celebration.

- no mentioning of the condition or alternative diagnosis, or death of the two nurses initials NI and MR

- they were not attending the bird flu patient who died (earlier reports say they did)

- there is no human-to-human bird flu in Indonesia

toggletext out, translation later.


http://www.detiknews.com/index.php/...0/tgl/12/time/145245/idnews/840972/idkanal/10

I tried some translation, not all words could be translated, however it seems clear enough I hope.

12 / 10 / 2007 14 : 52 wib

2 nurses in RS Awal Bross negative bird flu

ramadhian fadillah-detikcom

Jakarta-2 nurses in RS Awal Bross were mentioned as suspect bird flu..
However the result of the laboratorium test proved negative result.

The diagnosis of the nurses is negative, we have received confirmation said Minister of Health Siti Fadilah Supari in celebrations sela-sela in fitri idul in kediamannya Denpasar jl, kuningan, Jakarta, Friday (12 / 10 / 2007)

Both nurses, namely NI and MR were known to suffer from high fever symptoms.Like suspects of bird flu. It was reported too both of them fell ill after taking care of a patient who die from bird flu.

Apart from this she also declared that at this moment there is no direct human-to-human bird flu contamination.

Relating to this subject the minister of Health insisted ?that the nurses were not the ones who took care of the bird flu patient?

Therefore not yet exists spreading direct; that is the spreading Human-to human does not exist untill now, Tandasnya.

 

[Commonground]

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This is from okezone, seems to have been posted after the article on the death of the two nurses. Dutchy, could you please check on the sentence I have in red?

QDT Translation:

Minister of Health to say something by way of disagreement flu bird contagious human-to-human transmission

Jakarta: Spreading return/once again case/cases flu bird in Indonesia happen/take place after patient suspect died world in Pekanbaru, Riau. Minister of Health (menkes) Siti Fadilah Supari to take opposition existence spreading virus put out that human-to-human transmission.

Guess/Anticipate as human to human transmission that but actually the case is not yet there until now," statement Minister of Health Siti Fadilah Supari in rumah dinas, Jalan Denpasar Raya, Jakarta Selatan, Friday (12/10/2007)

According to her when/if there is one poultry that infected then may cause very fast towards catching towards that other. Last, virus from poultry that be able to transmit human being manner direct.

"The manner of infection direct no/not mean/be significant menularkan to human being," made clear again.
Towards/For/On behalf of total cases flu bird in land water/liquid attain 108 cases and 87 people among died world. Victim latest is person female who has the initials L (44) resident Complex Caltex Pacific Indonesia (CPI), Kelurahan Lembah Damai, Kecamatan Rumbai, Pekan Baru, Riau. (ism)

Original:
Menkes Bantah Flu Burung Menular Antarmanusia
Siswanto - Okezone

JAKARTA - Merebaknya kembali kasus flu burung di Indonesia terjadi setelah pasien suspect meninggal dunia di Pekanbaru, Riau. Menteri Kesehatan (menkes) Siti Fadilah Supari membantah adanya penularan virus mematikan itu antarmanusia.

"Yang diduga sebagai human to human transmition itu padahal belum ada sampai sekarang," ujar Menkes Siti Fadilah Supari di rumah dinas, Jalan Denpasar Raya, Jakarta Selatan, Jumat (12/10/2007).

Menurutnya, bila ada satu unggas yang terinfeksi maka dapat menyebabkan sangat cepat untuk menular ke yang lain. Akhirnya, virus dari unggas itu dapat menularkan manusia secara langsung.

"Dengan penularan langsung, bukan berarti menularkan ke manusia," tegasnya lagi.

Untuk total kasus flu burung di tanah air mencapai 108 kasus, dan 87 orang diantaranya meninggal dunia. Korban terakhir adalah seorang wanita berinisial L (44) warga Komplek Caltex Pacific Indonesia (CPI), Kelurahan Lembah Damai, Kecamatan Rumbai, Pekan Baru, Riau. (ism)

 

[Gert van der Hoek]

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I tried some translation, not all words could be translated, however it seems clear enough I hope.

12 / 10 / 2007 14 : 52 wib

2 nurses in RS Awal Bross negative bird flu

ramadhian fadillah-detikcom

Jakarta-2 nurses in RS Awal Bross were mentioned as suspect bird flu..
However the result of the laboratorium test proved negative result.

The diagnosis of the nurses is negative, we have received confirmation said Minister of Health Siti Fadilah Supari in celebrations sela-sela in fitri idul in kediamannya Denpasar jl, kuningan, Jakarta, Friday (12 / 10 / 2007)

Both nurses, namely NI and MR were known to suffer from high fever symptoms.Like suspects of bird flu. It was reported too both of them fell ill after taking care of a patient who die from bird flu.

Apart from this she also declared that at this moment there is no direct human-to-human bird flu contamination.

Relating to this subject the minister of Health insisted “that the nurses were not the ones who took care of the bird flu patient”

Therefore not yet exists spreading direct; that is the spreading Human-to human does not exist untill now, Tandasnya.

toggletext translation

2 nurses in RS Awal Bros the Bird Flu Negative

Ramadhian Fadillah - detikcom

Jakarta - 2 nurses were in RS Awal Bross named as suspect bird flu.
However results of the laboratory test against both of them proved results of the negative.

The "Diagnosis against the nurse was negative." We already confirmation there, said Menkes Siti Fadilah Supari in Idul Fitri celebration gaps in his residence in Street Denpasar, Kuningan, Jakarta, on Friday (12/10/2007).

The two nurses namely NI and Mr was known suffered the sign of the hot fever was similar suspect bird flu.

Reported also by both of them suffered was sick after treating a patient who died because of bird flu.

About this was very firm Menkes denied him.

The nurse evidently not that treated the bird flu patient, she added.

Moreover she also said till at this time in Indonesia did not have the spread of direct bird flu from between humankind.

"Be still not yet having the spread directly, so that was expected by the spread between humankind in fact is not yet now" , she stated.

http://www.detiknews.com/index.php/...0/tgl/12/time/145245/idnews/840972/idkanal/10

 

[Thornton]

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So, no nurses have died?

The article like many others stressed that the suspect cases have a negative test. Do we have a approximation of the number of people who have died of bird flu had a negative initial test? My recall is that is more than 10%.

 

[Gert van der Hoek]

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@ Commonground # 95:

This report is toggletexted in post # 88, except for the last sentences. Edit: TT 'd the complete Okezone report now @ # 88.

(TT is off and on..) This last sentence quotes the official number of confirmed bird flu victims in "the motherland" (tanah air = ground and water = motherland). It says 108, should be 109, including the 12 yo boy in Tangerang.

Looking at the time this report was published: later than the other report indeed.

I am still confused, no confirmation of the death of the nurses. No reports yet on their present condition or an alternative diagnosis.

We will have to wait and see.

 

[Gert van der Hoek]

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Friday, 12/10/2007 12:18 WIB

Nurses from RS Awal Bross that died Negative Bird Flu

Burung Siswanto - Okezone

Jakarta - the Department of the Health denied two nurses in RS Awal of the Brooch, Pekanbaru, Riau died because infected by bird flu.

After being carried out by the inspection, was not found by the existence of the virus H5N1.

"I already confirmation evidently the bird flu negative," said Health Minister Siti Fadilah Supari in gaps open house in the service house, Street Denpasar Raya, Southern Jakarta, on Friday (12/10/2007).

To be known, two nurses in RS Awal Bross, Pekanbaru died.


Suspected, both of them died after carrying out the maintenance to the patient suspect bird flu in this hospital.

"The nurse evidently not that treated the bird flu patient," added the minister for this heart specialist.

Could be reported, the two patients that also the nurse had carried out direct contact with suspect bird flu.
(
http://www.okezone.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=53679&Itemid=67



Original text for reference:

Perawat RS Awal Bros yang Meninggal Negatif Flu Burung
Siswanto - Okezone

JAKARTA - Departemen Kesehatan membantah dua perawat di RS Awal Bros, Pekanbaru, Riau meninggal karena terjangkit flu burung. Setelah dilakukan pemeriksaan, tidak ditemukan adanya virus H5N1.

"Saya sudah konfirmasi ternyata negatif flu burung," ujar Menteri Kesehatan Siti Fadilah Supari di sela-sela open house di rumah dinas, Jalan Denpasar Raya, Jakarta Selatan, Jumat (12/10/2007).

Untuk diketahui, dua perawat di RS Awal Bros, Pekanbaru meninggal dunia. Diduga, keduanya meninggal dunia setelah melakukan perawatan kepada pasien suspect flu burung di rumah sakit tersebut.

"Perawat itu ternyata bukan yang merawat pasien flu burung," tambah menteri spesialis jantung ini. Sempat diberitakan, kedua pasien yang juga perawat itu pernah melakukan kontak langsung dengan suspect flu burung. (ism)

If you follow the link of the original report, you will see it is changed at the website of Okezone: original is above, now it says:

Jum'at, 12/10/2007 12:18 WIB
Perawat RS Awal Bros Negatif Flu Burung
Siswanto - Okezone

JAKARTA - Departemen Kesehatan menyatakan hasil tes laboratorium dua perawat di RS Awal Bros, Pekanbaru, Riau yang sebelumnya berstatus suspect flu burung tidak ditemukan adanya virus H5N1.

"Saya sudah konfirmasi ternyata negatif flu burung," ujar Menteri Kesehatan Siti Fadilah Supari di sela-sela open house di rumah dinas, Jalan Denpasar Raya, Jakarta Selatan, Jumat (12/10/2007).

Untuk diketahui, dua perawat di RS Awal Bros, Pekanbaru sebelumnya diduga terjangkit virus flu burung, setelah melakukan perawatan kepada pasien suspect flu burung di rumah sakit tersebut. Sempat diberitakan, kedua pasien yang juga perawat itu pernah melakukan kontak langsung dengan suspect flu burung.

"Perawat itu ternyata bukan yang merawat pasien flu burung," tambah menteri spesialis jantung ini. (ism)

No reference anymore to the death of the nurses.

Edit, new text toggletext translated:

Friday, 12/10/2007 12:18

Nurses RS Awal Bros Bird Flu Negative

Siswanto Okezone

Jakarta - the Department of the Health stated results of the laboratory test of two nurses in RS Awal of the Brooch, Pekanbaru, of Riau that beforehand berstatus suspect bird flu was not found by the existence of the virus H5N1.

“I already confirmation evidently the bird flu negative”, said Health Minister Siti Fadilah Supari in gaps open house in the service house, Street Denpasar Raya, Southern Jakarta, on Friday (12/10/2007).

To be known, two nurses in RS Awal of the Brooch, Pekanbaru was beforehand expected infected by the bird flu virus, after carrying out the maintenance to the patient suspect bird flu in this hospital.

Could be reported, the two patients that also the nurse had carried out direct contact with suspect bird flu.

The nurse evidently not that treated the bird flu patient, added the minister for this heart specialist.

 

[Commonground]

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There you go. Thanks Dutchie!!