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Indonesia HUMAN Cases - March 26, 2008 to April 9, 2008

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In the meantime from some information that succeeded in being encompassed Padang Ekspres from several workmates "Et" in RSSN, the nurse yang berlamat in Street Pendidikan Bukittinggi before this could visit one of the nurse's children RSSN that died several days ago with the sign similar to bird flu in Lambah Ngarai Sianok.
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Confusing sentence. It could mean that Etriani had previously visited a sick child (perhaps another nurse's child?) that died from possible bird flu. The only earlier child that we know of from Lambah Ngarai Sianok that had bird flu symptoms and died would be Edi Satria, the older brother of Anisa.
 
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Indonesian child tests positive for bird flu 31 Mar 2008 03:09:30 GMT
Source: Reuters
JAKARTA, March 31 (Reuters) - An Indonesian child has tested positive for bird flu, pushing the country's total confirmed human cases to 130, a health ministry official said on Monday.

Lily Sulistyowati, the ministry's spokeswoman, said the 22-month-old girl from Sumatra's Bukit Tinggi fell sick on March 19 and the ministry is checking her neighbourhood for possible backyard farming.

"Her condition is improving, and she is being treated at a Padang hospital," Sulistyowati told Reuters by telephone.

Contact with sick fowl is the most common way of contracting H5N1 virus, which is endemic in bird populations in most of Indonesia.

Indonesia has had 105 human deaths from the bird flu virus, the highest number in the world.

Experts say the danger is the virus may evolve into a form that people can easily catch and pass to one another, in which case the transmission rate would soar, causing a pandemic in which millions of people could die. (Reporting by Mita Valina Liem; Editing by Sugita Katyal and Valerie Lee)

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/JAK277038.htm
 
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H5N1 Confirmed Cluster in Sumatra Indonesia

Recombinomics Commentary 06:03
March 31, 2008

Although one life of their child, Edi Satria (21) was called by the Lord because of the inflammation diagnosis of the lungs, now the daughter of the couple's youngest child, Anisa (21 months) also was claimed as suspect bird flu.

Anisa that according to the temporary medical test was expected as the patient suscpect bird flu, till at this time still was lain alongside in isolation space RSU M. Jamil Padang.

Lily Sulistyowati, the ministry's spokeswoman, said the 22-month-old girl from Sumatra's Bukit Tinggi fell sick on March 19 and the ministry is checking her neighborhood for possible backyard farming.

"Her condition is improving, and she is being treated at a Padang hospital," Sulistyowati told Reuters by telephone.

The above comments confirm an H5N1 cluster in Sumatra, Indonesia. This cluster, like the confirmed cluster in West Java, involves two family members. In both cases the index case died with bird flu symptoms, while the family member subsequently developed bird flu symptoms and tested positive for H5N1.

Thus, because the index case was not tested in both clusters, both will be officially reported as sporadic cases, rather than a cluster involving likely human to human transmission.

However, the Sumatra cluster may develop into a larger cluster involving extended human to human transmission, because the nurse (29F) who cared for one or both of the family members in Sumatra has now been hospitalized with bird flu transmission.

Confirmation of H5N1 in the nurse would create more cause for concern, although the two confirmed clusters in two distinct locations in Indonesia is already cause for concern.
 
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Confirmation from Website Dep of Health on positive patients:

http://www.depkes.go.id/index.php?option=news&task=viewarticle&sid=3065

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AGY (L, 15) warga Kampung Cimerta, Kabupaten Subang, Propinsi Jawa Barat menampakkan gejala demam dan sesak nafas sejak 19 Maret 2008, sebelum akhirnya dibawa ke RSUD Subang, 22 Maret 2008. Diketahui terdapat 3 ekor ayam mati di lingkungannya. AGY kemudian dirujuk ke RS Hasan Sadikin Bandung tanggal 26 Maret 2007 dalam keadaan tidak sadar, dan meninggal hari itu juga. Dari hasil pemeriksaan laboratorium Badan Penelitian dan Pengembangan Kesehatan (Balitbangkes), AGY dinyatakan positif terinfeksi virus H5N1. Hasil ini dikuatkan oleh pemeriksaan laboratorium Lembaga Eijkman, Jakarta.

Sementara itu, di bagian lain propinsi Jawa Barat, ZAH (P, 12) warga Harapan Baru, Kota Bekasi Barat juga menampakkan gejala demam dan batuk sejak 19 Maret 2008. ZAH baru dibawa ke RS Penyakit Infeksi Suliati Saroso Jakarta pada tanggal 27 Maret 2008 dan meninggal pada tanggal 28 Maret 2008. Oleh kedua laboratorium yang sama, ZAH juga dinyatakan positif terinfeksi H5N1, virus Flu Burung.

Di Bukit Tinggi ALQ (P, 1 tahun) positif flu burung adalah warga Lembah Ngarai Sianok. Selain demam, batuk, pilek dan sesak napas, ALQ juga mengalami diare. Gejala awal mulai tampak pada tanggal 17 Maret 2008 dan ALQ dibawa ke RSUP Stroke Bukittinggi (22/03/08) sebelum dirawat di RS M. Djamil Padang tanggal 24 Maret 2008. Masih dirawat di rumah sakit tersebut, kondisi AQL kini stabil tanpa ventilator.
 
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Two Indonesian youths die of bird flu
31 Mar 2008 07:05:06 GMT
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<!-- AN5.0 article title end --> <script language="JavaScript" src="http://www.alertnet.org/bin/js/article.js"></script> <input value="13" name="CurrentSize" id="CurrentSize" type="hidden"> <!-- Two Indonesian youths die of bird flu --> <!-- Reuters --> (Recasts with two deaths, denial of cluster case) JAKARTA, March 31 (Reuters) - Two Indonesian youths have died from bird flu, a health ministry official said on Monday, taking the confirmed death toll in the country worst affected by the virus to 107. A 15-year-old boy from Subang, in West Java, died on Wednesday in an area where chickens had died, said Nyoman Kandun, director general of communicable disease control at the ministry. An 11-year-old girl from Bekasi, east of Jakarta, who died on Friday also tested positive for the virus, the official said. "There were dead chickens in the boy's neighbourhood, but in the girl's case it is still unclear," Kandun said via a mobile phone text message. Kandun dismissed the possibility of more bird flu cases in the same family after the boy's brother died recently. Confirmed cluster cases raise concerns over human-to-human transmission. "It is not correct that there is a cluster in Subang," Kandun said, adding that the brother has died of dengue fever. Earlier on Monday, a 22-month-old girl from Sumatra's Bukit Tinggi tested positive for bird flu and the health ministry was checking her neighbourhood for possible backyard farming. "Her condition is improving, and she is being treated at a Padang hospital," Lily Sulistyowati, a health ministry spokeswoman, said by telephone. Including the latest deaths, Indonesia has had 132 confirmed cases of the virus. Contact with sick fowl is the most common way of contracting the H5N1 virus, which is endemic in bird populations in most of Indonesia. According to United Nations' Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO) data on March 19, bird flu has infected 31 out of 33 provinces in Indonesia. Experts say the danger is the virus may evolve into a form that people can easily catch and pass to one another, in which case the transmission rate would soar, causing a pandemic in which millions of people could die. (Reporting by Mita Valina Liem; Editing by Ed Davies and Alex Richardson)
http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/JAK302298.h
 
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[From BANGKOK POST. In this case, possible clustered cases aren't mentioned at all. I.O.H.]
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Bird flu kills two more, Indonesia toll at 107

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Two more Indonesians, a boy and a girl, have died from bird flu, bringing the country's human death toll from the H5N1 strain of the deadly virus to 107, the highest in the world, the Health Ministry announced on Monday.
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The 15-year-old boy, identified only as AGY from the West Java district of Subang, died on March 26 at Hasan Sadikin Hospital in the provincial capital of Bandung, said the Health Ministry on its website.

It said the boy developed symptoms on March 19 and sought medical treatment in Subang's Public hospital on March 22 and then he was transferred to Hasan Sadikin hospital four days later, where he dead on the same day.

Another victim, a 12-year-old girl, identified only as Zah, from West Java's Bekasi district, just east of Jakarta, died on March 28 at Jakarta's Persahabatan Hospital, which is designated to treat bird-flu patients in the capital city and surrounding areas, the Health Ministry said.

Zah developed symptoms on March 19, and was brought to Persahabatan Hospital on March 27 with a cough and fever. She died one day after being treated there.

Laboratory tests confirmed the two had the H5N1 strain of bird flu, the ministry said.

Investigation teams were deployed by the Health Ministry and found out that the two had a history of direct contact with chickens, it said, adding that three chickens died at the boy's neighbours' homes.

The Health Ministry said a one-year-old baby girl from West Sumatra district of Bukittinggi was also confirmed to have been infected with the bird flu virus, but she was in a stable condition at a local hospital. A ventilator was used to help her to breath.

The latest deaths of the two bring Indonesia's bird-flu death toll to 107, among the 132 diagnosed human cases of H5N1, the strain of bird flu that can be deadly in people. Both figures are the highest in the world.

The UN's Food and Agriculture Organization warned recently that Indonesia's bird-flu situation remains "critical" and a high circulation of the virus that causes it could lead to mutations and threaten humans.

Before the latest deaths in Indonesia, the World Health Organization had confirmed at least 236 deaths in 12 countries in Asia and Africa.
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Confirmation from Website Dep of Health on positive patients:


AGY (L, 15) the resident of the Cimerta Village, Kabupaten Subang, of Propinsi West Java showed the sign of the fever and breathless since March 19 2008, before finally was brought to RSUD Subang, on March 22 2008.
Known was gotten by 3 chickens died in his environment.
AGY was afterwards reconciled to RS Hasan Sadikin Bandung on March 26 2007 in consciousness, and died the same day.
From results of the inspection the Penelitian Dan Pengembangan Kesehatan Body laboratory (Balitbangkes), AGY was stated positive was infected by the virus H5N1.
These results were strengthened by the Eijkman inspection of the Agency laboratory, Jakarta.

In the meantime, in the other part the West Javanese province, ZAH (P, 12) the resident of Harapan Baru, Kota Bekasi South also showed the sign of the fever and the cough since March 19 2008.
ZAH was just carried to RS Penyakit Infeksi Suliati Saroso Jakarta on March 27 2008 and died on March 28 2008.
By the two same laboratories, ZAH was also stated positive was infected H5N1, the Bird Flu virus.

In the Bukit Tinggi ALQ (P, 1 year) positive bird flu was the resident of the Valley Ngarai Sianok.
Apart from the fever, the cough, pilek and breathless, ALQ also experienced diarrhoea.
The sign of early began apparently on March 17 2008 and ALQ was carried to RSUP Stroke Bukittinggi (22/03/08) before being treated in RS M. Djamil Padang on March 24 2008.
Still was treated in this hospital, the AQL condition currently stable without the ventilator.
 
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Post #146

RSUP Bukittinggi Periksa Sampel of Keluarga Pasien Blood 'Suspect' Flu Burung

The medical team of RSUP Kota Bukittinggi, took the sample of blood of the patient's family suspect bird flu that died some time before along with several of his nurses to be checked in the Dinkes laboratory in Jakarta, the set one nurse was treated in RS Dr M. Djamil Padang, because of being suspected of being affected by bird flu.

"We took the sample of the family's blood and the nurse to be checked further for anticipated spread him the bird flu virus, but results rapid the results test of the negative," Director's words of RSUP Bukittinggi, Hendril, were contacted from the Padang City, on Monday (31/3).
According to Hendril, the taking of the sample of the blood was carried out appropriate protap the prevention spread him the bird flu virus, after one nurse was named Estriani (29) the resident Tangah Jua, Kota Bukittinggi, was treated intensive pada

Space of the installation isolation treated inap the Hospital Dr M. Djamil Padang, because of being suspected of being affected by bird flu.
This nurse could beforehand treat the patient who was expected by bird flu and died several days ago.
The sample of blood and the nurse of the patient's family, was sent to Jakarta and results will go out in five days in the future.
For the prevention, said Hendril, RSUP Bukittinggi currently gave tamiflu for the medical team was assigned in RSUP as well as sterilised the second-hand room was used treated the patient suspect that died this with ultraviolet rays.
"Room is currently occupied by the other patient, but is sterilised," he said.
In the meantime, related the condition for pre-schoolers Al (2) the family of the patient's casualties suspect that died and currently also suffers the same sign currently still was treated intensive to RS isolation space Dr M.Djamil Padang and his condition gradually improved.
The Head of Sector Pelayanan Medis RS Dr M. Djamil Padang, Irayanti, said, the condition for the pre-schoolers is currently stable, and the temperature of the body continued to descend.
However results of the blood test from Research And Development Department of Health Jakarta did not yet go out.

http://www.mediaindo.co.id/berita.asp?id=164638
 
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In Post #150, I'm assuming that ALQ and Anisa are one and the same. There is an age difference, but everything else matches.
 
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Senin, 31 Maret 2008 14:31 WIB
Again, two Bird Flu sufferers in West Java died

Two West Javanese residents who died several days ago it was confirmed positive was attacked by the bird flu illness.
Information from the Centre of Publik Departemen Communication of the Jakarta Health, on Monday (31/3), mentioned the two casualties were the male child had the initials AGY (15) the resident of the Cimerta Village, Kabupaten Subang and the daughter had the initials ZAH (12) the resident of Baru Hope, Kota Bekasi Barat.
AGY showed the sign of the fever and breathless since March 19 2008.
He was carried to the Daerah Public Hospital (RSUD) Subang was last March 22 2008 reconciled to the Hospital of Hasan Sadikin Bandung on March 26 2008 and died on the same day.
While ZAH showed the sign of the fever and the cough since March 19 2008, was carried to the Hospital of Penyakit Infeksi Suliati Saroso Jakarta on March 27 and died in this hospital on March 28.
The two children were expected tertular bird flu from the poultry because according to results of investigation of the Health and the Department of Agriculture of the Department's integrated team both of them had the story of contact with the poultry.
In the environment around the AGY residence in fact was found was gotten by three chickens died.
Apart from in West Java, the positive case of bird flu to humankind also it was reported happened in Bukittinggi, West Sumatra.

The daughter was one year old with ALQ initials, the resident of the Sianok Gorge Valley, that on March 17 experienced the sign of the fever, the cough, pilek, breathless and diarrhoea was also stated positive was infected by the virus Avian influenza H5N1 by the laboratory Balitbang the Department of the Health and the Eijkman Agency.
Originally ALQ was treated in RSUP Stroke Bukittinggi, but on March 24 was reconciled to the Hospital M. Djamil Padang.
He was still being treated in this hospital, at this time his condition was stable without respiratory aids (the ventilator).

http://www.mediaindo.co.id/berita.asp?Id=164649
 
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Two Indonesian youths die of bird flu

Monday, 31 March, 2008
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Two Indonesian youths have died from bird flu, taking the confirmed death toll in the country worst affected by the virus to 107.
A 15-year-old boy from Subang, in West Java, died on Wednesday in an area where chickens had died, said Nyoman Kandun, director general of communicable disease control at the ministry.
An 11-year-old girl from Bekasi, east of Jakarta, who died on Friday also tested positive for the virus, the official said.
"There were dead chickens in the boy's neighbourhood, but in the girl's case it is still unclear," Kandun said.
Kandun dismissed the possibility of more bird flu cases in the same family after the boy's brother died recently.
Confirmed cluster cases raise concerns over human-to-human transmission.
"It is not correct that there is a cluster in Subang," Kandun said, adding that the brother has died of dengue fever.
Earlier on Monday, a 22-month-old girl from Sumatra's Bukit Tinggi tested positive for bird flu and the health ministry was checking her neighbourhood for possible backyard farming.
"Her condition is improving, and she is being treated at a Padang hospital," Lily Sulistyowati, a health ministry spokeswoman, said.
Including the latest deaths, Indonesia has had 132 confirmed cases of the virus.
Contact with sick fowl is the most common way of contracting the H5N1 virus, which is endemic in bird populations in most of Indonesia.
According to United Nations' Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO) data on March 19, bird flu has infected 31 out of 33 provinces in Indonesia.
Experts say the danger is the virus may evolve into a form that people can easily catch and pass to one another. In this case the transmission rate would soar, causing a pandemic in which millions of people could die.

Source: AAP
http://news.sbs.com.au/worldnewsaustralia/two_indonesian_youths_die_of_bird_flu_543942
 
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ETA: Not a new case. This is "ICE".

Just gave birth It Was Suspected was affected by Bird Flu

The case of bird flu again struck the Municipality territory Jakarta Barat.
This time fell on Ev (25), the resident Street Kresek Raya, Durikosambi, of Cengkareng, Jakarta Barat that since Sunday (30/3) were at dawn treated in special space the handling of Persahabatan Hospital bird flu, Rawamangun, Jakarta Timur.
In fact in the last month Ev just gave birth to his first child.
According to Ru (27), the husband Ev, since Monday (24) then, the temperature of the Ev body increased sharply.
He then brought his wife to a clinic in the area of his residence.
However, after mengonsumsi medicine that was given by the doctor in the clinic, the temperature of the Ev body also did not descend.
On Friday afternoon (26/3), Ev was again carried to this clinic to diperiksakan came back.
"Then my wife was taken his blood to be checked."
From results of the inspection was known if the level of trombosit my wife descended.
Then we were given the reconciliation letter to the Cengkareng Hospital to undergo the maintenance because of being suspected of being affected by dengue fever dengue fever, said Ru.
An arrival in RS Cengkareng, the team of the doctor who examined him concluded another thing.
Ev was diagnosed suspect bird flu.
Apart from the temperature bada him rose, Ev also complained had a headache, nausea, and often vomited again and again.
After being x-rayed, the team of the doctor also found the existence flek on the lungs.
RS Persahabatan that received the report on the existence of the patient suspect bird flu immediately sent the ambulance to pick up Ev.
The official who came to use clothes was closed from the end of the head until foot.
"I did not believe if my wife was affected by bird flu."
Because, uptil now he had not gone out of the house.
He just gave birth to our first child last February 25.
So, how he could tertular bird flu, said Ru, the husband Ev, while adding that he admitted to not maintaining the animal anything in his house.
Ru said, in several weeks behind, he also had not heard had the chicken that died suddenly in his territory.
During the last few months the wife Ru also never direct contact with the animal.
"Several metre from my house indeed had the chicken abattoir."
But I had not heard had the chicken or the poultry

http://www.kompas.com/read.php?cnt=.xml.2008.03.31.04564039&channel=1&mn=10&idx=97
 
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H5N1 Confirmed Fatality in Bekasi Indonesia Causes Concern

Recombinomics Commentary 12:22
March 31, 2008

A 15-year-old boy from Subang, in West Java, died on Wednesday in an area where chickens had died, said Nyoman Kandun, director general of communicable disease control at the ministry.

An 11-year-old girl from Bekasi, east of Jakarta, who died on Friday also tested positive for the virus, the official said.

The above comments described a third confirmed case in Indonesia. The fatal case in Bakasi is close to the two fatal cases in Subang. However, in Subang only the second sibling has been officially confirmed. Both siblings were initially diagnosed as dengue fever. The older brother, described above, was subsequently confirmed to be H5N1 positive.

The direct general of communicable disease control is denying that the brother died of H5N1. Such denials are cause for concern.

Similarly, the death of the aunt of the confirmed case on Sumatra has not been mentioned in the English language press, raising additional concerns, as does the hospitalization of the nurse associated with the cases in Sumatra.

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/03310802/H5N1_Bekasi_Concern.html
 
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West Java

Subang
Agus Youhadi (15) - Positive
Dea Putra (6) - younger brother, died. Diag: DBD

Tangarang
Ev/ICE (25) - Suspect. Tangerang.

Bekasi
Zah (12) - Positive, died.


West Sumatra

Anisa (2 1/2) possibly ALQ (1) - Positive
Edi Satria (21) - older brother, died. Diag: DBD
Etriani (29) - Suspect. Nurse. Treated Edi above.
 
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Caution flu burung - Endemic Can Become Pandemic[/b]

The assistant Ii Setda Wonosobo Ir Agus Subagiyo MSi to KR, on Monday (31/3) said, the occurrence endemi the bird flu virus must be guarded against because from time to time could change to the pandemic.
Results in the meeting of the Forum for Advocacy through hearing and lobying the legislative executive preparations faced pendemi bird flu se Central Java was in Wonosobo known, that in this world 2 times happened endemi bird flu, that is before First World War and during the Second World War.
Explained, endemi was to spread him the virus from the animal to the animal and from the animal to humankind.
Whereas the pandemic was the occurrence of the spread of the virus from humankind to humankind.
So the bird flu danger must be serious his handling.
The interest in the life of humankind especially the child's child must be able to overcome various good interests of the group, the group and the individual.
Considering at this time Indonesia was still occupying the first level of the case of bird flu to humankind, that is achieving 118 cases.

Most or 60 percent happened to children.
From this number 95 people including dying.
The representative Regent Wonosobo, Drs H Muntohar MM stressed, the spreading of the bird flu virus showed the sign that increased.
Up until this March 2008, in the Wonosobo Regency 14 cases of bird flu happened.
As many as 492 poultries died because positive bird flu.
Whereas in Central Java almost all the regency/the city was infected by the bird flu virus, that is achieving 30 regencies/the city.
Now in Indonesia infected until 30 provinces.
"Even though bird flu did not yet become the pandemic, but we must continue to be on the alert.
Because when until the pandemic happened as a result will be very fatal.
With the relatively short incubation period, the person who was affected by the bird flu virus only needed time around one to seven day to die," he said.

http://222.124.164.132/web/detail.php?sid=157682&actmenu=38
 
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