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Ebola Expert - ?The disease is uncontained and out of control, the international response has been a failure,?

Jeremy

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...atmosphere-in-west-africa-as-apocalyptic.html

At an emergency hearing Thursday, leaders of the fight against Ebola gave updates on the situation in Africa and the future of the deadly disease?s possible spread.


At an emergency hearing in Washington Thursday afternoon, major players in the fight against Ebola in West Africa addressed the outbreak that has stolen the lives of more than 900. Leaders from health agencies and humanitarian efforts addressed the need for increased support as one called the current state of affairs in West Africa ?apocalyptic.?

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The outbreak is getting worse.
Already an unprecedented outbreak, CDC Director Dr. Tom Frieden says the number of infected and killed by Ebola will likely soon outnumber all other Ebola outbreaks in the past 32 years combined. According to the CDC, there have already been more than 1,700 suspected and confirmed cases of Ebola in West Africa, and more than 900 deaths?numbers which Frieden later called ?too foggy? to be definitive. Ken Isaacs, the Vice President of Program and Government Relations for Samaritan?s Purse (SIM), painted an even bleaker picture. According to SIM, West Africa has counted 1,711 diagnoses and 932 deaths, already, which could represent only a small fraction of the actual number. ?We believe that these numbers represent just 25-50 percent of what is happening,? said Isaacs.


The atmosphere in West Africa is ?apocalyptic.?
In a six-hour meeting with the president of Liberia last week, Isaacs said SIM workers watched as the ?somber? officials explained the gravity of the situation in their countries, where hundreds lie dead in the streets. ?It has an atmosphere of apocalypse,? Isaacs said of the Liberia Ministry of Health?s status updates. ?Bodies lying in the street ? gangs threatening to burn down hospitals. I believe this disease has the potential to be a national security risk for many nations. Our response has been a failure.? Isaacs says that the epidemic is inciting panic worldwide that, in his opinion, may soon be warranted. ?We have to fight it now here or we?re going to have to fight it somewhere else.?

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The international response has been disastrous.

Isaacs, head of the humanitarian agency for which Writebol and Brantly worked, vehemently condemned the international community for a response that he considers both delayed and insufficient. ?The disease is uncontained and out of control, the international response has been a failure,? he said. With three of the poorest nations in the world currently affected, West Africa is extremely ill-prepared for the disaster?a fact, which Issacs argued, necessitates more response. ?The ministries of health in these countries do not have the capacity to handle this. If a mechanism is not found the world will be effectively relegating the containment of this disease to three of the poorest nations in the world,? he said, adding later: ?Is the world willing to let the public health of the world be in their hands??

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The disease could spread to other countries.Isaacs, whose urgings to Congress about the urgency for a better response prompted Thursday?s meeting, is gravely concerned about the future. After first observing the outbreak in April, he?s watched the disease spread furiously across West Africa with little to no effective international support. ?I think we are going to see death tolls in numbers that we can?t imagine,? said Isaacs. ?If we do not fight and contain this disease, we will be fighting this and containing this in multiple countries across the world. The cat is, most likely, already out of the bag.?
 
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Re: Ebola Experts Warn of an African 'Apocalypse'

So according to this article.
In a six-hour meeting with the president of Liberia last week, Isaacs said SIM workers watched as the “somber” officials explained the gravity of the situation in their countries, where hundreds lie dead in the streets. “It has an atmosphere of apocalypse,” Isaacs said of the Liberia Ministry of Health’s status updates. “Bodies lying in the street … gangs threatening to burn down hospitals.

1) The meeting he is referring to was last week
2) There were hundreds lying dead in the streets....which was apparently last week

This is from the Vice President of Program and Government Relations for Samaritan’s Purse, one of the main NGO's in the area.

Oh, and they think the number of cases/deaths current reported represent 25-50% of the real numbers....

Sounds like the situation is worse than the WHO/Media reports.
 
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Re: Ebola Experts Warn of an African 'Apocalypse'

There's no source attributed for the "hundreds lie dead in the streets", though. It's certainly not put as a direct quote, and seems to be shoehorned into the paragraph. There's no such line in the CIDRAP account of the same meeting.

If it's in the video, please correct me - I'm on 3G and can't watch it.
 
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Re: Ebola Experts Warn of an African 'Apocalypse'

Subcommittee Hearing: Combating the Ebola Threat


Subcommittee on Africa, Global Health, Global Human Rights, and International Organizations | 2172 Rayburn House Office Building Washington, DC 20515 | Aug 7, 2014 2:00pm to 5:00pm
...
Witnesses

Panel I

Tom Frieden, M.D.
Director
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
[full text of statement]

Ariel Pablos-M?ndez, M.D.
Assistant Administrator
Bureau for Global Health
U.S. Agency for International Development
[full text of statement]

The Honorable Bisa Williams
Deputy Assistant Secretary
Bureau of African Affairs
U.S. Department of State
[full text of statement]

Panel II

Mr. Ken Isaacs
Vice President of Program and Government Relations
Samaritan?s Purse|
[full text of statement]
[truth in testimony form]

Frank Glover, M.D.
Missionary
SIM
[full text of statement]
[truth in testimony form]

http://foreignaffairs.house.gov/hearing/subcommittee-hearing-combating-ebola-threat
 
Re: Ebola Experts Warn of an African 'Apocalypse'

Re: Ebola Experts Warn of an African 'Apocalypse'

There's no source attributed for the "hundreds lie dead in the streets", though. It's certainly not put as a direct quote, and seems to be shoehorned into the paragraph. There's no such line in the CIDRAP account of the same meeting.

If it's in the video, please correct me - I'm on 3G and can't watch it.

In the video in post 3 Mr. Issacs did not mention anything about bodies in the streets.
 
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Re: Ebola Experts Warn of an African 'Apocalypse'

Just watched the video--sobering, but he definitely did not say hundreds lying dead in the streets.
 
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Re: Ebola Experts Warn of an African 'Apocalypse'

Dr. Glover's testimony text does discuss the issue of bodies in the street p2. para 4.
 
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Thanks Nox. "Many" bodies lie in the streets until someone picks them up.

A bit of a different image than "hundreds lie dead in the streets".

I think the author may have overstated for effect. :(

As if the situation is not bad enough without exaggeration.
 
Re: Ebola Experts Warn of an African 'Apocalypse'

Re: Ebola Experts Warn of an African 'Apocalypse'

There's no source attributed for the "hundreds lie dead in the streets", though. It's certainly not put as a direct quote, and seems to be shoehorned into the paragraph. There's no such line in the CIDRAP account of the same meeting.

If it's in the video, please correct me - I'm on 3G and can't watch it.


I've seen several stories about the dead being left on streets to rot. Here's one link: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2717762/People-dropping-dead-Ebola-streets-Liberia.html
 
Re: Ebola Expert - ?The disease is uncontained and out of control, the international response has been a failure,?

According to an individual who watched the hearing live, there are many statements that are not included in the written transcript and video snippets e.g. confirmation of the case in Saudi. Journalists will likely have listened to the full hearing testimonies, so to seperate the truth from exagerations, we will need to judge the journalists and their historical accuracy I think.

Very sobering.
 
Re: Ebola Expert - ?The disease is uncontained and out of control, the international response has been a failure,?

While "100's lying dead in the streets" was not directly in the video or transcript, the meeting in Africa with SIM being referred to was across Sierra Leone, Guinea, and Liberia. So it may very well have been said in the committee meeting yesterday.

We have already seen articles with references to 30+ dead bodies lying in the street awaiting pickup in one town in Liberia alone. So it wouldn't be that surprising for there to be more than 1 or 2 hundred bodies in the streets across these 3 countries.

It might have been an exaggeration on the part of the author since it wasn't referenced as a direct quote, however recent actions by these countries (such as Liberia declaring a state of emergency), NGO's pulling, WHO declaring an international emergency, and the CDC raising to Level 1 it really isn't that much of a stretch to see the scenario on the ground being commiserate with that statement.
 
Re: Ebola Expert - ?The disease is uncontained and out of control, the international response has been a failure,?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/08/world/africa/dont-touch-the-walls-ebola-fears-infect-hospital.html



KENEMA, Sierra Leone ? So many patients, nurses and health workers have died in the government hospital that many people in this city, a center of the world?s worst Ebola epidemic, see it as a death trap.


Now, the wards are empty in the principal institution fighting the disease. Ebola stalks the city, claiming lives every day, but patients have fled the hospital?s long, narrow buildings, which sit silent and echoing in the fading light. Few people are taking any chances by coming here.


?Don?t touch the walls!? a Western medical technician yelled out. ?Totally infected.?


Some Ebola patients still die at the hospital, perhaps four per day, in the tentlike temporary isolation ward at the back of the muddy grounds. But just as many, if not more, are dying in the city and neighboring villages, greatly increasing the risk of spreading the disease and undermining international efforts to halt the epidemic.
<aside class="marginalia related-coverage-marginalia nocontent robots-nocontent" data-marginalia-type="sprinkled" role="complementary"> http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/08/w...-fears-infect-hospital.html#story-continues-2
</aside> ?People don?t die here now,? said the deputy chief of the hospital?s burying team, Albert J. Mattia, exasperated after a long day of Ebola burials. ?They are dying in the community, five, six a day.? Mr. Mattia was particularly disturbed that many of the bodies his team were putting in the ground had come from outside the hospital, thwarting attempts to isolate patients and prevent them from passing the disease to others.


?It?s very, very dangerous, very hazardous; it is contributing to the Ebola dead,? he said as his two deputies nodded glumly in agreement. ?You go to the wards, there are no patients.?

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Dead bodies have been appearing on the streets and in houses throughout Monrovia, with people staging roadblocks to ensure that health workers remove them. But with hospitals closed in the capital, it was unclear how many of the victims had died of Ebola, or from other causes. A health worker said his burial team, one of twelve, picked up seven bodies in Monrovia and surrounding areas on Thursday alone.

?Only two of the bodies were in houses, and the others were on the street,? the health worker said.

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Dr. Glover stated in his testimony that there are only two active ebola treatment centers in Liberia, one with a capacity of 25 and the other with a capacity of 40. He stated that the CFR for these two facilities is 80-90% and that many cases/deaths occur outside these two centers and, therefore, are not counted.

 
Re: Ebola Expert - ?The disease is uncontained and out of control, the international response has been a failure,?

During final comments, which aren't recorded in the transcripts above, Dr. Glover stated, "no matter what we do, unfortunately, there is going to be tremendous loss of life just by the nature of this disease."

Mr. Isaac then stated, "I agree with Dr. Glover, I think we're going to see death tolls in numbers that we cannot even imagine right now."

I tried to be as accurate as I could in transcribing these quotes. I missed these comments when I watched the individual testimonies and read the transcripts.
 
Re: Ebola Expert - ?The disease is uncontained and out of control, the international response has been a failure,?

Thanks for find those transcripts, Pathfinder! Here is a snapshot from Mr. Ken Isaacs' testimony:


 
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Re: Ebola Expert - ?The disease is uncontained and out of control, the international response has been a failure,?

Unfortunately, a lot of the money donated to fight the outbreak will end up in the pockets of corrupt politicians, their cronies and greedy bureaucrats. We've spent billions in Africa and have very little to show for it.
 
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