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Discussion thread VI - COVID-19 (new coronavirus)

c'est le pur produit de normalisateurs qui ne savent rien du normal.

Il pourrait ?tre d?montr? que les animaux sauvages sont en manque, et alors ...

Mais, ne pas consid?rer, aux Etats Unis , comme ailleurs, que l'objectif de base de toutes les administrations, c'est le normal, me semble la plus belle bourde que j'ai lu de ma vie ...

Le dossier vitamine D est d'une complexit? que je n'imaginais pas. Je ne sais pas qui doivent ?tre les principaux op?rateurs pour faire.

En tout cas devoir pr?ciser ? (Tripartite (FAO/OIE/WHO)), que l'engagement au respect du normal devrait ?tre la premi?re des r?gles , je souhaite ton regard ...
 
More on Vitamin D - Dr. John Cambell video here - he reviews an Australian study on extensive Vitamin D deficiencies in the UK and expresses similar disgust at the recent NICE review announcement here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qwaq4oRnpjY

An additional useful video explainer on Vitamin D from Medcram and Dr Seheult : Vitamin D and Covid19 - The Evidence for Prevention and Treatment of Coronavirus (SARS CoV 2) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha2mLz-Xdpg

I dont think anyone is proposing that this is a 'magic bullet', but it certainly looks like a deficiency or inadequacy may be a risk factor for severe disease - everyone agrees that further study is needed. The association and correlations are well established; we need to determine if causation is also present.

The bit that makes me incredulous is that much of data has been available for months, with the final conclusion that further study is needed in RCTs, and yet there are NO major Randomised Controlled Trials of sufficient size to confirm or refute the benefits underway as far as I can tell in the Western world. Why not? Why are governments in the UK/ EU/ US not funding this work as a matter of urgency?

Do we really have to wait for this data to emerge out of India, Egypt, the Americas etc? These research centres are reputable and companies use them extensively to generate data for support of licence applications and sales and marketing of other pharmaceuticals.

Pharmaceutical companies will not be undertaking this work - there is no money in it for them, so the work has to paid for and led by regulatory authorities and health organisations such as the NIH and CDC, or in the UK by PHE or the Department of Health, or in the EU the EMA and associated bodies. Additionally the work has to be prioritised - it will be no use to anyone if the results do not arrive for 1-2 years.

The rapid arrival of vaccines is wonderful, but they are not and cannot be a panacea. Not only are there issues associated with speed of manufacture to provide rapid universal coverage, but they also will not work well in people with an immune system that is not functioning adequately. Ensuring vitamin D adequacy (amongst other things) can only help to ensure that the vaccines work and work well in the people they are given to. Additionally there are risks of mutations that at some point will result in a loss of vaccine efficacy. There are also sizeable sectors of populations who will not accept vaccination or vaccines and it will take some years to persuade them otherwise (this is another topic for another time, but is a serious and considerable problem being made worse by censorship moves in social media).

At best Vitamin D use to ensure adequacy should be adjunctive therapy - and this information could be communicated to individuals as a sensible self help option to reduce risks of severe disease.

I simply don't understand why governments are not advocating that people self help in this manner, and why they are not funding the necessary research to answer the outstanding questions - it is critically important to reduce the patient load in hospitals, and to help ensure that economies can return to normal as rapidly as possible. Surely we should be using and exploring every possible avenue, especially if the data is confirmed that this simple measure can help to reduce morbidity and mortality?

We will still need new and novel pharmaceutical interventions: there is no conflict here. I simply do not understand why this work has not already been done - but more than that, why the work is not even underway.
 
thank you,

it's incredible this situation. Since I have been looking at this file, in Europe, as in the United States, I have a better idea of all the dimensions: it's incredible.

I thought that the new director of the C.D.C: a woman, was going to get involved, which would have set the tone, and perhaps the meaning ...

She has a real highway...
 
There is no big money in Vit D, so ..........

I live in The Netherlands, more or less the same altitude as the south of Canada. Out of curiosity I measured my blood level of Vit D at the end of summer: September and at the end of winter: April. According to science a recommended Vit D level is 80 nmol/l or 25 ng/mL . In September it was 85 and in April it was 78 . Two years at a row. All you need is all the sun you can get on your skin without burning - don't use sunscreen - and eat enough cold water fish, liver in wintertime?

Possibly if you are ill, you could need (very) high extra doses, but I am not a doctor..... If you do a search at PubMed with "inflammation vitamin d" you'll get a lot of hits.
 
I posted the article below in this FluTrackers thread: ---------------
South Africa identifies new coronavirus strain causing surge in cases

JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) - South Africa has identified a new variant of the coronavirus that is driving a second wave of infections, the health minister said on Friday, days after Britain said it had also found a new variant of the virus boosting cases.

“We have convened this public briefing today to announce that a variant of the SARS-COV-2 Virus - currently termed 501.V2 Variant - has been identified by our genomics scientists here in South Africa,” Minister of Health Zweli Mkhize tweeted.

“The evidence that has been collated, therefore, strongly suggests that the current second wave we are experiencing is being driven by this new variant,” Mkhize added.

<snip>

South African health authorities said the new variant seemed to spread faster than the previous iteration, but that it was too early to tell its severity and whether current vaccines would work against it.

“In the UK they have also identified a new variant ... there are quite a few similarities between the two lineages ... there are also a similar number of mutations” said Prof Tulio de Oliviera, a member of government’s genomics consortium in a televised briefing.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN28S2HH
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I remember reading that the new variant of Covid-19 in the UK was first identified in September. Could what is circulating in South Africa have traveled from the UK or vice-versa?

Also, please notice a sentence in the article below which Mary Wilson posted in the South Africa thread linked above when she started it:


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New COVID-19 variant identified in SA - South Africa

<snip>

In addition, clinicians have been providing anecdotal evidence of a shift in the clinical epidemiological picture- in particular noting that they are seeing a larger proportion of younger patients with no co-morbidities presenting with critical illness. The evidence that has been collated, therefore, strongly suggests that that the current second wave we are experiencing is being driven by this new variant.

<snip>

https://sacoronavirus.co.za/2020/12/18/new-covid-19-variant-identified-in-sa

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I have bolded the text which may concern me the most. It is very similar to a statement in an article which came out of Kent County, UK. See below:

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Major patient backlog at Medway Maritime Hospital, Gillingham

<snip>

A Medway hospital worker, who asked to remain anonymous, said how at one point yesterday they counted 18 ambulances outside.

This meant an average of six-hour waits to get people in to be seen.

They also confirmed that Covid patients were now commonplace in every ward, including children's wards.

Also a "high number" of teenagers had been admitted with the illness.

<snip>

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/medway/news/major-backlog-as-hospital-reaches-capacity-239362/
 
Advocate Condell Medical Center temporarily pauses vaccinations after 4 employees experience reaction - Illinois

by: WGN Web Desk
Posted: Dec 18, 2020 / 10:32 PM CST/ Updated: Dec 18, 2020 / 10:44 PM CST

LIBERTYVILLE, Ill. — Advocate Condell Medical Center in Libertyville has temporarily paused vaccinations after four employees experienced reactions.

Since Thursday, four employees at Advocate Condell Medical Center experienced reactions shortly after vaccination, with symptoms including tingling and elevated heartrate.

...At this time, three employees are home and doing well and one is receiving additional treatment.

https://wgntv.com/news/coronavirus/...tions-after-4-employees-experience-reactions/
 
https://www.adn.com/alaska-news/2020...id-19-vaccine/
3 more Alaska health workers have adverse reactions to COVID-19 vaccine, bringing total to 5
Author: Morgan Krakow
Updated: 5 minutes ago
Published 9 hours ago

A Fairbanks health care worker was treated for a “probable” serious allergic reaction on Thursday after she received the COVID-19 vaccine, according to the Foundation Health Partners care system.

Additionally, on Friday evening, Providence Alaska reported that two caregivers who received the COVID-19 vaccine experienced non-life-threatening, mild reactions...

https://globalnews.ca/news/7532645/c...e-us-allergic/
U.S. investigating 5 allergic reactions to Pfizer coronavirus vaccine
By Michael Erman Reuters
Posted December 18, 2020 11:38 pm
...
Dr. Peter Marks, director of the FDA’s Center for Biologics Evaluation and Research, said at a press conference that the allergic reactions had been reported in more than one state, including in Alaska.

Read more: Alaskan health worker stable after allergic reaction to Pfizer’s coronavirus vaccine


Marks also said that a chemical called polyethylene glycol (PEG) that is an ingredient in the Pfizer vaccine — as well as the Moderna Inc vaccine authorized on Friday — “could be the culprit” causing the reactions.

Marks said that allergic reactions to PEG could be somewhat more common than previously understood
...

(Emily's thoughts: Will Dr. Marks and Dr. Hahn quit ignoring the vaccine safety advocates who warned them about PEG allergies months ago?
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/w...ks_sept_25.jpg )
 
D?pression
La vitamine D est impliqu?e dans divers processus c?r?braux et les r?cepteurs de la vitamine D sont pr?sents sur les neurones et la glie dans des zones du cerveau suppos?es ?tre impliqu?es dans la physiopathologie de la d?pression [ 130 ].
Statines
Les statines r?duisent la synth?se du cholest?rol. La vitamine D endog?ne ?tant d?riv?e du cholest?rol, les statines peuvent ?galement r?duire la synth?se de la vitamine D [ 167 ]. De plus, des apports ?lev?s en vitamine D, en particulier ? partir de suppl?ments, pourraient r?duire la puissance de l'atorvastatine (Lipitor?), de la lovastatine (Altoprev? et Mevacor?) et de la simvastatine (FloLipid ™ et Zocor?), car ces statines et la vitamine D apparaissent pour concourir pour la m?me enzyme m?tabolisante [ 167-170 ]
https://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/VitaminD-HealthProfessional/

La vitamine D rapporte moins que les antid?presseurs et les statines , c'est vrai ;

Il n'y aurait pas un gros conflit d'int?r?t, pour le corps m?dical, dans son ensemble, pour examiner ce sujet ?
 
Boris Johnson backtracks on relaxing Christmas rules after scientists warn new Covid-19 strain spreads faster

By Lindsay Isaac, Luke McGee and Arnaud Siad, CNN
Updated 11:53 AM ET, Sat December 19, 2020

London (CNN)Parts of Britain will go back into lockdown during Christmas after a newly identified strain of Covid-19 proved to spread more quickly than previous strains of the virus.

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson on Saturday announced a series of stricter coronavirus restrictions, tightening rules around household mixing that were due to be relaxed over Christmas in London and southeast England.

The PM broke the news Saturday that London and the southeast of England where cases are surging, will go into Tier 4 restrictions, similar to a lockdown, on Sunday.

"The spread is being driven by the new variant of the virus," Johnson said in a hastily called press conference. "It appears to spread more easily and may be up to 70% more transmissable than the earlier strain."

<snip>

https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/19/uk/ch...gbr/index.html

I have only one comment: Wow!
 
South Africa appears to also have a rapidly transmissible strain that has arisen independently of the UK variant.

see. https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1374779/covid-strain-latest-new-coronavirus-variant-south-africa-young-adults

It is feared the strain may now be immune to certain antibodies triggered at the start of the pandemic.

Commenting on the strain, Dr Eric Feigl-Ding said: "New more worrisome South Africa strain: the new 501.V2 variant has troubling details as it seems to spread faster, has a higher viral load and possibly more severe among young adults."

The health minister, Dr Zweli Mkhize has also stated it is unclear whether any current vaccine may have an effect on 501.V2.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...coronavirus-variant-south-africa-young-adults
https://www.express.co.uk/news/worl...coronavirus-variant-south-africa-young-adults
 
Early sign that new strain of Covid infects more children


Strong evidence new mutant strain is 50% more transmissible than previous virus

There is an indication that the new variant of coronavirus infected more children, a scientist on the Government’s New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats advisory group (NervTag) has said.

Speaking at the NervTag Q&A briefing on the new variant, hosted by Science Media Centre, Professor Neil Ferguson of Imperial College London said there was strong evidence the new mutant strain is 50% more transmissible than the previous virus.

He added: “We will need to gather more data to see how it behaves going forward.

“There are other epidemiologically interesting trends with virus, there is a hint that it has a higher propensity to infect children … but we haven’t established any sort of causality on that, but we can see that in the data.”

<snip>

https://www.kentlive.news/news/uk-wo...-covid-4820586
 
UK coronavirus variant may be more able to infect children - scientists

By Kate Kelland

LONDON (Reuters) - A new variant of the coronavirus spreading rapidly in Britain carries mutations that could mean children are as susceptible to becoming infected with it as adults - unlike previous strains, scientists said on Monday.

Briefing reporters on the latest findings, scientists from the government’s New and Emerging Respiratory Virus Threats Advisory Group (NERVTAG) who are tracking the variant said it had swiftly become the dominant strain in the south of Britain, and could soon do the same across the country.

“We now have high confidence that this variant does have a transmission advantage over other virus variants that are currently in the UK,” said Peter Horby, a professor of emerging infectious diseases at Oxford University and chair of NERVTAG.

“There is a hint that it has a higher propensity to infect children,” said Neil Ferguson, a professor and infectious disease epidemiologist at Imperial College London and also a member of NERVTAG.

“We haven’t established any sort of causality on that, but we can see it in the data,” Ferguson said. “We will need to gather more data to see how it behaves going forward.”

<snip>

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-h...-idUKKBN28V2EV
 
I am posting the article below primarily for the graphs. They do a good job of showing how the England-wide lockdowns implemented in November 5 significantly flattened the curve. But then see what happens in the second graph for London, Eastern England, and SE England.

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Wider lockdown may be needed to curb mutant coronavirus – Vallance


Tougher coronavirus restrictions will be needed across the country with cases of the mutant coronavirus strain appearing “everywhere”, the Government’s chief scientific adviser warned.

The Tier 4 lockdown was announced for London and parts of southern and eastern England at the weekend after existing Tier 3 measures proved unable to control the spread of the more infections variant.

<snip>



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(PA Graphics)


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(PA Graphics)
<snip>

https://www.kentonline.co.uk/news/n...ed-to-curb-mutant-coronavirus-vallance-19698/
 
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