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US - President and First Lady test positive for COVID-19 - President hospitalized at Walter Reed Military Hospital - now back at White House - October

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WHAT? Dr. Connelly just said we are 72 hours into the President's diagnosis.... would mean positive test Wed AM. Working to clarify.


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Conley says we are 72 hours into the diagnosis. We were told around 1 am on Friday morning that POTUS was positive, which is only 36 hours ago.
 
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Several media are reporting that Chris Wallace told Bill Hemmer on Fox today that President Trump and some of his entourage arrived too late to be tested by the Cleveland Clinic for COVID-19 coronavirus on the day of the debate (September 29). I do not see that interview on the Fox youtube account so I can not independently verify these reports.

There is a video on the account below:



JM Rieger

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Chris Wallace on Fox News suggests that at least some campaign officials at Tuesday’s debate were not tested on site: “[Some] didn’t arrive until Tuesday afternoon … there wouldn’t have been enough time to have the test and have the debate … there was an honor system"



OCTOBER 2, 2020 / NEWS RELEASES

Statements from Cleveland Clinic Regarding the Presidential Debate
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Statement from Cleveland Clinic on President Trump, First Lady testing positive for COVID-19

October 2, 2020 – 1:20 p.m.

“Our thoughts are with the President, First Lady and all of our guests. As health advisor to the Commission on Presidential Debates and the host site, we had requirements to maintain a safe environment that align with CDC guidelines – including social distancing, hand sanitizing, temperature checks and masking. Most importantly, everyone permitted inside the debate hall tested negative for COVID-19 prior to entry. Individuals traveling with both candidates, including the candidates themselves, had been tested and tested negative by their respective campaigns. Based on what we know about the virus and the safety measures we had in place, we believe there is low risk of exposure to our guests. Out of an abundance of caution, we are reaching out to our guests to address any questions and concerns. We will continue to monitor the information being released by the White House.”

Statement from Cleveland Clinic clarifying 11 people who tested positive for COVID-19

October 2, 2020 – 7:50 p.m.

“It’s important to clarify the 11 people who tested positive never accessed the debate hall. These individuals were either members of the media or were scheduled to work logistics/set-up in the days prior to the event. Individuals did not receive credentials or tickets to enter the debate hall until they had a negative test, and all were advised to isolate while they awaited their test results.”

https://newsroom.clevelandclinic.or...and-clinic-regarding-the-presidential-debate/

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City of Cleveland Statement Regarding Post-Debate COVID-19 Cases- Update #194

Tatyana Mcknight October 2, 2020 0 Comments

The City of Cleveland is aware of positive cases of COVID-19 following the Sept. 29 presidential debate. In total, at this time, we are aware of 11 cases stemming from pre-debate planning and set-up, with the majority of cases occurring among out of state residents. At this time, though that could change, no City residents appear to have contracted the virus as a result of this event.

As the cases involve people in and out of state some of whom may be continuing to travel, the City of Cleveland is working with the Ohio Department of Health (ODH), the Centers for Disease Control & Prevention and the Cleveland Clinic. As part of CDPH’s process regarding COVID-19, any individuals who tested positive as part of the debate were contacted, interviewed when possible, issued isolation orders and provided guidance regarding their isolation period. There were also conversations with individuals who tested positive regarding their upcoming travel.

CDPH will continue to follow its contact tracing process which includes the following steps:

• A person who has tested positive and is a Cleveland resident will be contacted by interview team who will confirm they are City residents.

• They will then ask about who they live with, who they care for in and out of the home, who they work with and the type of work they do.

• They will also be asked if they participated in any mass gatherings of people.

• In the event the person’s case stems from the debate, the individual will be asked: who they are employed by, who they were in contact with at the debate, how they got to the debate, how long they were there, if they did any traveling recently or attended any other mass gathering.

We advise anyone who has come in contact with someone who has tested positive to selfquarantine. If anyone who was in attendance has concerns or is symptomatic, they should contact their healthcare provider.

We know there are measures that are effective to prevent the spread of infection that include wearing masks, maintaining proper social distancing and regular hand washing. With this event, we know a large number of those in attendance live in another state. That is why our partnerships with ODH and the CDC are vital.

It is important to note that everyone affiliated with the debate – with credentials to be in the event perimeter – was tested upon arrival. Only those with negative test results were allowed within the pavilion. While CDPH was not on-site for the debate, we were in contact with organizers and those responsible for enforcing safety measures inside the venue.

https://clecityhall.com/2020/10/02/...arding-post-debate-covid-19-cases-update-194/
 
Trump Arrived to Debate too Late for Cleveland Clinic Covid Test, Moderator Chris Wallace Reveals

Posted By Sam Allard on Fri, Oct 2, 2020 at 5:12 pm

Fox News' Chris Wallace revealed in an interview Fridayafternoon that President Donald Trump arrived in Cleveland for Tuesday's debate too late for a Covid-19 test administered by the Cleveland Clinic.

"There was an honor system when it came to the people that came into the hall from the two campaigns,” Wallace told Fox co-anchor Bill Hemmer.

Wallace, who moderated the ghastly Tuesday event, noted that Trump and those traveling with him arrived in Cleveland Tuesday afternoon — most of the national media arrived Sunday and Monday — and there wouldn't have been time for the Clinic to conduct tests and get results back.

https://www.clevescene.com/scene-an...ic-covid-test-moderator-chris-wallace-reveals
 
Trump was given oxygen before his admission to hospital

By JONATHAN LEMIRE, JILL COLVIN and ZEKE MILLER
10 minutes ago

BETHESDA, Md. (AP) — President Donald Trump on Friday was administered supplemental oxygen at the White House hours after being diagnosed with COVID-19 and before being flown to a military hospital.

A person familiar with Trump’s condition confirmed that Trump was given oxygen at the White House, after the president’s physician, Navy Commander Dr. Sean Conley, sidestepped the question at a press briefing Saturday. Conley said Trump was not administered oxygen on Thursday or since he has been a patient at Walter Reed Medical Center.

THIS IS A BREAKING NEWS UPDATE. AP’s earlier story follows below.

... According to a person familiar with Trump’s condition, some of Trump’s vital signs over the past 24 hours were “very concerning.” The person, who was not authorized to speak publicly and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity, said the next 48 hours will be critical in terms of his care.

The administration has consistently been less than transparent about the president’s health as the virus spread inside the White House. Aides had declined to share basic health information about the president, including a full accounting of his symptoms, what tests he’s undertaken and the results.

https://apnews.com/article/election...Twitter&utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=AP
 
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Conley says we are 72 hours into the diagnosis. We were told around 1 am on Friday morning that POTUS was positive, which is only 36 hours ago.

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"I incorrectly used the term 'seventy-two hours' instead of 'day three' and 'forty eight hours' instead of 'day two' with regards to his diagnosis and the administration of the polyclonal antibody therapy," Conley said

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/wh...about-president-s-covid-19-condition-n1241973
 
In my book, 72 hours = 3 days, and 42 hours = 2 days. Is there a difference?

https://twitter.com/W7VOA?ref_src=tw...Ctwgr%5Eauthor


Steve Herman @W7VOA

The @WhiteHouse statement misspells @Regeneron.
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Steve Herman @W7VOA

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NEW: Regeneron spox Hala Mirza* tells @CBSNews's @amybirn that it's incorrect to call what the President has received "polyclonal antibodies." “It is two monoclonal antibodies. It was incorrect in the physician’s letter.” twitter.com/saraecook/stat…
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*Hala Mirza
Hala Mirza is the Vice President, Corporate Communications and Citizenship at Regeneron, a leading science-driven biotechnology company.

https://usnewsstemsolutions.com/speakers/hala-mirza/

NOTE: Dr. Sean Conley didn’t sign or initial this memo.
 
President Trump on a video this evening from the hospital. He says he feels ok and that the next couple of days are important.

I found a video play:

 
I just took a look around and saw that there is rampant speculation as to the "real" condition of the President. Well...it will become apparent in a couple of days. Either he will be released, or not. If the days drag on and he is still in the hospital - there is your answer. I know the main stream media makes their money from clicks advertising but the amount of rank tabloid gossip is completely inappropriate for such a serious situation. How about some professionalism?

Time will tell. Look at the actions. Not the media reports. If Trump continues to make videos like the one above then he is still oxygenated. If there are no recent videos then he is probably not in great shape. This does not involve rocket science.

As to what did he know, and when did he know it - the situation will reveal itself. Believe me. There will be plenty of inquiries, tribunals, investigations as to what happened this year. Every country.
 
Doctors give update on Trump's health Sunday morning

Has started on dexamethasone.



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CONLEY: Good morning, everyone. Since we spoke last, the president has continued to improve. As with any illness, there are frequent ups and downs over the course, particularly when a patient is being so closely watched 24 hours a day.

We review and debate every finding, compare it to existing science and literature, weighing the risks and benefits of every intervention, its timing, as well as any potential impacts a delay may have.

Over the course of his illness, the president has experienced two episodes of transient drops in his oxygen saturation. We debated the reasons for this and whether we'd even intervene. Is was the determination of the team based predominantly on the timeline from the initial diagnosis that we initiate dexamethasone.

I'd like to take this opportunity now, given some speculation over the course of the illness the last couple days, update you on the course of his — his own illness.

Thursday night into Friday morning when I left the bedside, the president was doing well, with only mild symptoms, and his oxygen was in the high 90s. Late Friday morning when I returned to the bedside, the president had a high fever and his oxygen saturation was transiently dipping below 94%.

Given these two developments, I was concerned for possible rapid progression of the illness. I recommended [to] the president we try some supplemental oxygen, see how he'd respond. He was fairly adamant that he didn't need it. He was not short of breath, he was tired, had the fever, and that was about it.

After about a minute on only 2 liters, his saturation levels were back over 95%. He stayed on that for about an hour maybe, and it was off and gone.

Later that day, by the time the team here was at the bedside, the president had been up out of bed moving about the residence with only mild symptoms.

Despite this, everyone agreed the best course of action was to move to Walter Reed for more thorough evaluation and monitoring.

I would like to invite up Dr. Dooley discuss the current plan.

SEAN DOOLEY, PULMONARY CRITICAL CARE DOCTOR: Thank you Dr. Conley.

Before I begin a brief clinical update on the president's condition, I do want to reiterate my comments from yesterday regarding how proud I am to be a part of this multidisciplinary multi-institutional team of clinical professionals behind me and what an honor it is to care for the president here at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center.

Regarding his clinical status, the patient continues to improve. He has remained without fever since Friday morning. His vital signs are stable.

From a pulmonary standpoint, he remains on room air this morning, and is not complaining of shortness of breath, or other significant respiratory symptoms. He is ambulating himself walking around the White House medical unit, without limitation or disability. Our continued monitoring of his cardiac, liver and kidney function demonstrates continued normal findings, or improving findings.

I'll now turn it over to Dr. Garibaldi from Johns Hopkins to talk about our therapeutics and again, our plan for the day.

BRIAN GARIBALDI, PULMONARY CRITICAL CARE DOCTOR: Thank you Dr. Dooley. I just wanted to again reiterate what an honor and a privilege it is to take care of the president and to be part of such a talented and multidisciplinary team here at Walter Reed.

The president yesterday evening completed a second dose of remdesivir. He's tolerated that infusion well. We've been monitoring for any potential side effects. And he has had none that we can tell. His liver and kidney function have remained normal. And we continue to plan to use a five-day course of remdesivir.

In response to transient low oxygen levels, as Dr. Conley has discussed, we did initiate dexamethasone therapy, and he received his first dose of that yesterday, and our plan is to continue that for the time being.

Today he feels well, he's been up and around. Our plan for today is to have him to eat and drink, be up out of bed as much as possible, to be mobile. And if he continues to look and feel as well as he does today, our hope is that we can plan for a discharge as early as tomorrow to the White House where he can continue his treatment course.

Thank you very much and I'll turn it over to Dr. Conley for any questions.

CONLEY: The president wanted me to share how proud he is of the group, what an honor it is for him to be receiving his care here at Walter Reed, surrounded by such incredible talent, academic leaders, department chairs, internationally renowned researchers and clinicians, including the support of Dr. Garibaldi from Johns Hopkins. I'd like to reiterate how pleased we all are with the president's recovery.

And with that, I'll take your questions.

REPORTER: You said there were two instances where he had drops in oxygen. Can you walk us through the second one? And also I've got a question for the lung specialist afterwards.

CONLEY: Yesterday there was another episode where he dropped down, about 93%. He doesn't ever feel short to breath, we watched it, and it returned back up.

As I said, we evaluate all of these, and given the timeline where he is in the course of illness, you know, we are trying to maximize everything that we could do for him and we debated whether we'd even start it --- the dexamethasone, and we decided that, in this case, the potential benefits early on the course, probably outweighed any risks at this time.

REPORTER: Did you give him a second round of supplemental oxygen yesterday?

CONLEY: I'd have to, I'd have to check with the nursing staff. I don't think that — if he did it was very, very limited. But he's not on oxygen. The only oxygen that I ordered that we provided was that Friday morning, initially.

REPORTER: About what time was that yesterday?

CONLEY: Yesterday? What was yesterday?

REPORTER: You said the second incident —

CONLEY: The second incident? Oh it was over the course of the day. Yeah. Yesterday morning.

REPORTER: What is president's current blood oxygen level? That's my first question to you, Dr. Conley.

CONLEY: 98%

REPORTER: And what do the X-rays, and CT scans show, are there signs of pneumonia, are there signs of lung involvement? Or any damage to the lungs?

CONLEY: Yes, so we're tracking all of that. There's some expected findings, but nothing of any major clinical concern.

REPORTER: I wanted to ask if his oxygen level ever dipped below 90?

CONLEY: We don't have any recordings here of that, that's right.

REPORTER: What about at the White House or here, anything below 90, just to follow up on her question?

CONLEY: No, it was below 94%. It wasn't down in to the low 80s or anything, no.

REPORTER: Yesterday you told us that the president was in great shape had been in good shape and paper free for the previous 24 hours. Minutes after your press conference, White House chief of staff Mark Meadows told reporters that the president's vitals were very concerning over the past 24 hours. Simple question for the American people: Whose statements about the president's health should we believe?

CONLEY: So, the chief and I work side by side, and I think his statement was misconstrued. What he meant was that 24 hours ago, when he and I were checking on the president, that there was that momentary episode of the high fever and that temporary drop in the saturation, which prompted us to act expediently to move him up here. Fortunately, that was really a very transient, limited episode. A couple hours later he was back up. Mild again. I'm not going to speculate what that limited episode was about so early in the course but he's doing well.

REPORTER: What are the expected findings on his lungs and why is the president not wearing a mask in the videos and photos that have been released?

CONLEY: Well, the president wears a mask anytime he's — he's around us, and we're all wearing our N95s, full PPE. He's — he's the patient, and when we can, when he'll move out into public, we move him about out and around other people that aren't in full PPE, I'll assure you, as long as he's still under my care, we'll talk about him wearing a mask.

REPORTER: Is he in a negative pressure room? ...

CONLEY: I'm not going to get into specifics of his care.

REPORTER: The lung function question? Can you talk about that --

CONLEY: I will just share that, like every patient, we perform lung spirometry on him, and he's maxing it out. We told him, see what you can do, and it's over 2,500 milliliters each time.

He's — he's doing great.

REPORTER: Why were you so reluctant until today to disclose that the president had been administered oxygen?

CONLEY: I was trying to reflect the upbeat attitude that the team, the president, that his course of illness has had. I didn't want to give any information that might steer the course of illness in another direction. And in doing so, you know, it came off that we're trying to hide something, which wasn't necessarily true. ...

The fact of the matter is, is that he's doing really well, that he is — he is responding. And as the team said, if everything continues to go well, we're going to start discharge planning back to the White House.

That's it, thank you, folks.

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/04/92009...medium=twitter
 
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Dexamethasone in Hospitalized Patients with Covid-19 — Preliminary Report

July 17, 2020
DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa2021436

In patients hospitalized with Covid-19, the use of dexamethasone resulted in lower 28-day mortality among those who were receiving either invasive mechanical ventilation or oxygen alone at randomization but not among those receiving no respiratory support. (Funded by the Medical Research Council and National Institute for Health Research and others; RECOVERY ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT04381936. opens in new tab; ISRCTN number, 50189673. opens in new tab.)

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.10... provides evidence,who did not require oxygen
 
Over the years, while I do not have any faith in CNN, I have found that Dr. Gupta makes some medically valid points:

Dr. Sanjay Gupta: "Trump shouldn't be discharged tomorrow" - The doctors said the President would continue treatment at the White House if released. I guess some medical accomodation there can be made?


[video]https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/10/04/trump-coronavirus-doctor-presser-gupta-reax-discharge-sotu-vpx.cnn[/video]
 
Dexamethasone in Hospitalized Patients with Covid-19 — Preliminary Report

July 17, 2020
DOI: 10.1056/NEJMoa2021436

In patients hospitalized with Covid-19, the use of dexamethasone resulted in lower 28-day mortality among those who were receiving either invasive mechanical ventilation or oxygen alone at randomization but not among those receiving no respiratory support. (Funded by the Medical Research Council and National Institute for Health Research and others; RECOVERY ClinicalTrials.gov number, NCT04381936. opens in new tab; ISRCTN number, 50189673. opens in new tab.)

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.105...quire%20oxygen

Please also see these studies on dexamethasone:

JAMA . Effect of Dexamethasone on Days Alive and Ventilator-Free in Patients With Moderate or Severe Acute Respiratory Distress Syndrome and COVID-19: The CoDEX Randomized Clinical Trial

Respir Med Case Rep . Dexamethasone in severe COVID-19 infection: A case series

medRxiv - Effect of Dexamethasone in Hospitalized Patients with COVID-19 – Preliminary Report
 
WHO updates clinical care guidance with corticosteroid recommendations

2 September 2020

On 2 September, WHO published guidance for clinicians and health care decision-makers on the use of corticosteroids in patients with COVID-19.


We recommend systemic corticosteroids for the treatment of patients with severe and critical COVID-19.

We suggest not to use corticosteroids in the treatment of patients with non-severe COVID-19 as the treatment brought no benefits, and could even prove harmful. Treatment should be under supervision of a clinician.



Corticosteroids are listed in the WHO model list of essential medicines, readily available globally at a low cost. WHO encourages countries to maintain sufficient stocks of corticosteroids to treat COVID-19 and the other disease for which they are effective, while not maintaining excessive stocks which could deny other countries access.


This guidance was developed in collaboration with the non-profit Magic Evidence Ecosystem Foundation (MAGIC), which provided methodologic support to develop and disseminate living guidance for COVID-19 drug treatments.


Work on this guidance began on 22 June when the RECOVERY trial published a preliminary report on the impact of corticosteroids. To supplement the results, WHO partnered with investigators of seven trials on corticosteroids to conduct a meta-analysis of these trials, in order to rapidly provide additional evidence to build on RECOVERY data and inform guidance development.


The guidance was thus informed by combining data from eight randomized trials of systemic corticosteroids for COVID-19.


WHO provides guidance that works across all contexts for all countries and health care systems.

https://www.who.int/news-room/featu...-guidance-with-corticosteroid-recommendations
 
Trump campaign to host a 'call to prayer' for president and first lady amid coronavirus recovery

by Anthony Leonardi
October 04, 2020 03:32 PM

The Trump campaign is employing the power of prayer as President Trump and first lady Melania Trump recover from the coronavirus.

In a Sunday email, the campaign announced it was hosting a "Call to Prayer" for the first couple, both of whom announced they tested positive for COVID-19 in early Friday morning tweets.

"Please join Lara Trump for a Call to Prayer tonight along with Pastor Paula White-Cain, Cisse Graham Lynch, Pastor Jentezen Franklin, Pastor Ramiro Pena and Bishop Harry Jackson," the email reads.

Join us tonight 5p.m. ET at http://Facebook.com/DonaldTrump as we lift up our President @realDonaldTrump and @FLOTUS in prayer!

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...msn&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=msn_feed
 
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