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    University of Iowa opens new bird-flu contracts
    current prices are not yet published:

    #1:WHO goes to phase 4 before 1.Jan 2008
    #2:WHO goes to phase 5 before 1.Jan 2008
    #3:more than 350(*) H5N1-cases by 1.Jan 2008
    #4: more cases in July 2007 than in June 2007
    #5:human H5N1-case in America by 1.Jan 2008
    #6:human H5N1-case in Europe between 1.July2007 and 1.Jan 2008
    #7:new human H5N1-case in Hongkong by 1.Jan 2008
    #8:new human H5N1-case in Singapore by 1.Jan 2008
    #9:high-path H5N1 in America by 1.Jan 2008 in native species
    #10:high-path H5N1 in America by 1.Jan 2008 in poultry
    #11: H5N1 in domesticated mammals outside Asia by 1.Jan 2008

    let's add a #12 contract, which is just #3 but 1000 cases
    and 1.1.2009 expiry, so :
    #12: more than 1000 WHO-confirmed H5N1-cases by 1.Jan 2009



    you can vote here in this thread:
    just post 12 numbers in a row for the 12 estimated percentages =
    what you would consider a fair price for these contracts.
    Use "--" , if you want to leave out some contract.

    -------------------------------


    The old contracts with expiry 01.July 2007 had been traded at:

    Code:
    16.April : 02,02,98,--,02,12,63,27,02,02,07 
    23.April : 03,02,97,--,03,13,48,23,04,04,28
    28.April : 03,02,97,--,03,07,27,13,03,03,13
    03.May   : 03,03,97,--,03,07,27,14,03,03,09 
    10.May   : 03,03,97,--,03,07,19,17,03,03,07
    17.May   : 03,03,97,--,03,07,17,07,03,03,18
    24.May   : 03,02,97,--,02,04,20,11,03,03,07
    31.May   : 03,03,96,--,03,03,08,08,03,03,07
    I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
    my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

  • #2
    Re: IEM bird-flu contracts

    Originally posted by gsgs View Post
    University of Iowa opens new bird-flu contracts
    current prices are not yet published:

    #1:WHO goes to phase 4 before 1.Jan 2008
    #2:WHO goes to phase 5 before 1.Jan 2008
    #3:more than 350(*) H5N1-cases by 1.Jan 2008
    #4: more cases in July 2007 than in June 2007
    #5:human H5N1-case in America by 1.Jan 2008
    #6:human H5N1-case in Europe between 1.July2007 and 1.Jan 2008
    #7:new human H5N1-case in Hongkong by 1.Jan 2008
    #8:new human H5N1-case in Singapore by 1.Jan 2008
    #9:high-path H5N1 in America by 1.Jan 2008 in native species
    #10:high-path H5N1 in America by 1.Jan 2008 in poultry
    #11: H5N1 in domesticated mammals outside Asia by 1.Jan 2008

    let's add a #12 contract, which is just #3 but 1000 cases
    and 1.1.2009 expiry, so :
    #12: more than 1000 WHO-confirmed H5N1-cases by 1.Jan 2009



    you can vote here in this thread:
    just post 12 numbers in a row for the 12 estimated percentages =
    what you would consider a fair price for these contracts.
    Use "--" , if you want to leave out some contract.

    -------------------------------


    The old contracts with expiry 01.July 2007 had been traded at:

    Code:
    16.April : 02,02,98,--,02,12,63,27,02,02,07 
    23.April : 03,02,97,--,03,13,48,23,04,04,28
    28.April : 03,02,97,--,03,07,27,13,03,03,13
    03.May   : 03,03,97,--,03,07,27,14,03,03,09 
    10.May   : 03,03,97,--,03,07,19,17,03,03,07
    17.May   : 03,03,97,--,03,07,17,07,03,03,18
    24.May   : 03,02,97,--,02,04,20,11,03,03,07
    31.May   : 03,03,96,--,03,03,08,08,03,03,07




    between 01.July 2007 and 31.Dec.2007 there will be:
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------
    #01:WHO goes to phase 4
    #02:WHO goes to phase 5
    #03:more than 349 WHO-confirmed H5N1-cases
    #04:more WHO-confirmed cases this month than last month
    #05:WHO confirmed H5N1 case in America
    #06:WHO confirmed H5N1 case in Europe
    #07:WHO confirmed H5N1 case in Hong Kong
    #08:WHO confirmed H5N1 case in Singapore
    #09:FAO confirmed high-path H5N1 case in wild birds in America
    #10:FAO confirmed high-path H5N1 case in poultry in America
    #11:FAO confirmed H5N1 in domesticated mammal outside Asia

    28.June: 03,03,95,97,53,03,17,07,09,17,06,06
    I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
    my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

    Comment


    • #3
      Re: IEM bird-flu contracts

      some small changes, the phase 5-contract was replaced by
      phase 4 until July 2008, the H5N1 in domestic mammals outside Asia
      was not renewed and we have two monthly comparison
      contracts now : current vs. last and next vs. current




      #1:WHO goes to phase 4 by Jan/1/08
      #2:WHO goes to phase 4 by Jul/1/08
      #3:400 WHO-confirmed human H5N1-cases by Jan/1/08
      #4:more human cases in Jul/07 than in Jun/07
      #5:more human cases in Aug/07 than in Jul/07
      #6:human case in America by Jan/1/08
      #7:human case in Europe by Jan/1/08
      #8:human case in Hongkong between Jul/1/07 and Jan/1/08
      #9:human case in Singapore by Jan/1/08
      #10:HP-H5N1 in wild birds in America by Jan/1/08
      #11:HP-H5N1 in poultry in America by Jan/1/08

      Code:
      05.Jul.2007:05,07,86,48,47,03,28,23,17,12,07
      please give your estimates for the probabilities !
      (just the 11 numbers separated by comma in one line as above)


      Note, that the pro-med traders estimate the probability as 7%
      that WHO goes to phase 4 within the next 12 months.
      Phase 4 doesn't imply a pandemic yet, so the probability
      of a pandemic is considered maybe 3% or such per year !
      This seems to include any influenza pandemic, even a
      mild one with H2N2,H7Nx,H9Nx.
      I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
      my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

      Comment


      • #4
        Re: IEM bird-flu contracts

        Predictions as of 7/23/2007
        -----------------------------------------


        Code:
        03 : World Health Organization Phase 4 Announcement by January 1, 2008 
        12 : World Health Organization Phase 4 Announcement by July 1, 2008 
        22 : WHO will confirm 400 cases of H5N1 before Janruary 1, 2008 
        47 : Will the number of new WHO-confirmed cases of H5N1 in humans during July 2007 be greater than the number during June 2007 
        53 : Will the number of new WHO-confirmed cases of H5N1 in humans during August 2007 be greater than the number during July 2007 
        03 : First WHO Confirmed Cases of H5N1 in North or South America before January 1, 2008 
        23 : New WHO Confirmed H5N1 case in Europe between July 1, 2007 and January 1, 2008 
        24 : First WHO Confirmed Cases of H5N1 in Hong Kong before January 1, 2008 
        23 : First WHO Confirmed Cases of H5N1 in Singapore before January 1, 2008 
        13 : First World Organization for Animal Health HIGH-PATH H5N1 Case Confirmed for Non-Captive Avian Species in North or South America before January 1, 2008 
        07 : First World Organization for Animal Health HIGH-PATH H5N1 Case Confirmed in Commercial Poultry in North or South America before January 1, 2008
        I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
        my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

        Comment


        • #5
          Re: IEM bird-flu contracts

          Code:
                  0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  A  B  C  D  E  F
          27.Sep.:03,08,07,97,23,03,23,23,23,87,09,08,08-06,08
          04.Oct.:03,08,04,97,23,03,27,17,18,93,12,08,08-05,08,12
          18.Oct.:03,10,05,97,08,03,28,23,23,90,13,09,08-03,05,09
          0,03:WHO Phase 4 Announcement by January 1, 2008
          1,08:WHO Phase 4 Announcement by July 1, 2008
          2,07:WHO issues an emergency travel advisory relating to H5N1 by January 1, 2008
          3,97:more than 349 human cases of H5N1 before Janruary 1, 2008
          4,23:more than 399 human cases of H5N1 before Janruary 1, 2008
          5,03:human H5N1 in America before January 1, 2008
          6,23:human H5N1 in Europe between July 1, 2007 and January 1, 2008
          7,23:human H5N1 in Hong Kong before January 1, 2008
          8,23:human H5N1 in Singapore before January 1, 2008
          9,87:human H5N1 in Africa before January 1,2008
          A,09:more human cases outside of Indonesia and Vietnam than inside between 07/09/21 and 08/1/1
          B,08:HP-H5N1 case for non-captive bird in America before January 1, 2008
          C,08:HP-H5N1 case in commercial poultry in America before January 1, 2008

          D,06:HP-H5N1 confirmed in USA before 08/01/01
          E,08:HP-H5N1 confirmed in USA before 08/04/01
          F,12:HP-H5N1 confirmed in USA before 08/07/01


          (human cases must be WHO-confirmed, animal-cases must be high-path and OIE confirmed)
          I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
          my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

          Comment


          • #6
            Re: IEM bird-flu contracts

            vznuri wrote:

            hi fabio, you have a knack for asking the right/good questions.

            here is an excellent article in NYT that Ive been meaning to
            comment on ever since it was published. Ive been writing about
            prediction markets for ages on the mailing list, and finally
            they hit the "big time"

            a name to google on "robin hanson" who wrote many theoretical papers
            long before this was ever noticed.. mid 90s or so.

            justin wolfers named in the NYT article seems to be doing some
            research into the area, he's a big convert/proponent

            the NYT article is just barely scraping the surface. prediction
            markets will be pretty revolutionary as they grow in size &
            significance & influence & I predict they will eventually be connected
            up with existing stock markets via various quasi-financial instruments
            (even more exotic than derivatives.. in fact complex derivatives can
            be seen as a precursor to pure prediction markets)

            I predict that prediction markets may eventually be seen as even more
            accurate & timely than all the existing political polls, as the NYT
            article hints at. and thats a MASSIVE industry probably worth tens or
            hundreds of millions of dollars per year.

            you know how 2007 was the year of social networking? some year in the
            future may be the year of prediction markets. 2008 could come close
            because of the election, but I think its still too early. expect to
            hear much about them. the tipping point will be when average people
            participate & use them daily, like facebook. (heck, maybe they will be
            woven into facebook as widgets!! now theres a cool idea..)

            Odds Are, They'll Know '08 Winner
            By DAVID LEONHARDT
            Published: February 14, 2007






            they work for less political subjects too, like movies. see
            hollywood stock exchange

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            I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
            my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

            Comment


            • #7
              Re: IEM bird-flu contracts

              Code:
                      0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  A  B  C  D  E  F
              27.Sep.:03,08,07,97,23,03,23,23,23,87,09,08,08-06,08
              04.Oct.:03,08,04,97,23,03,27,17,18,93,12,08,08-05,08,12
              18.Oct.:03,10,05,97,08,03,28,23,23,90,13,09,08-03,05,09
              01.Nov.:03,07,03,92,03,03,18,17,13,88,07,07,05-06,08,10
              15.Nov.:03,07,03,94,03,03,18,22,13,88,04,07,03-05,06,10
              29.Nov.:03,07,03,97,02,03,23,23,13,83,03,05,02-06,08,08
              13.Dec.:03,07,03,28,03,03,13,12,13,74,03,04,03-03,07,10
              20.Dec.:03,07,03,89,03,03,12,08,13,77,03,03,03-02,05,16
              0,03:WHO Phase 4 Announcement by January 1, 2008
              1,08:WHO Phase 4 Announcement by July 1, 2008
              2,07:WHO issues an emergency travel advisory relating to H5N1 by January 1, 2008
              3,97:more than 349 human cases of H5N1 before Janruary 1, 2008
              4,23:more than 399 human cases of H5N1 before Janruary 1, 2008
              5,03:human H5N1 in America before January 1, 2008
              6,23:human H5N1 in Europe between July 1, 2007 and January 1, 2008
              7,23:human H5N1 in Hong Kong before January 1, 2008
              8,23:human H5N1 in Singapore before January 1, 2008
              9,87:human H5N1 in Africa before January 1,2008
              A,09:more human cases outside of Indonesia and Vietnam than inside between 07/09/21 and 08/1/1
              B,08:HP-H5N1 case for non-captive bird in America before January 1, 2008
              C,08:HP-H5N1 case in commercial poultry in America before January 1, 2008

              D,06:HP-H5N1 confirmed in USA before 08/01/01
              E,08:HP-H5N1 confirmed in USA before 08/04/01
              F,12:HP-H5N1 confirmed in USA before 08/07/01


              (human cases must be WHO-confirmed, animal-cases must be high-path and OIE confirmed)
              I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
              my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

              Comment

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