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    Swine Flu's Worst Case Scenario: Paranoia or Preparedness?

    Monday, August 10, 2009
    By Katie Cobb


    An uncontrollable, deadly virus ravages America, shutting down civilian institutions and triggering martial law. Vaccinations are compulsory, and there are mass quarantines throughout the country.

    It's the stuff of Hollywood ? but rumors that it could be real are spreading like the flu in the blogosphere, where some people are loudly expressing their fears that the federal government is seriously considering such measures as it maps out a worst-case-scenario response to the swine flu pandemic.

    During the bird flu scare of 2005, the Bush administration added novel forms of influenza ? including the swine flu ? to the official list of "quarantinable communicable diseases," clearing the way for the forced detention of people who exhibit symptoms of the disease.

    Now a proposal awaiting Defense Secretary Robert Gates' approval would allow the military to set up regional teams to assist civilian authorities in dealing with the impact of the swine flu pandemic. And some observers see this level of government preparedness as little more than a pretext for tyranny.

    "The implications are far reaching," Michel Chossudovsky wrote on the Global Research Web site, which averages 18,000 visitors daily. "The decision points toward the establishment of a police state," he said.

    "It would be extremely troubling and raise serious constitutional questions," Chris Calabre, ACLU counsel for technology and liberty, told FOXNews.com when asked how the civil liberties group would react to mandatory quarantines. "We opposed this in 2005 and will do so again because it gives the government blanket authority to hold anyone and has no due process."

    Foreign governments, too, are thought to be drawing up worst-case emergency plans that rely heavily on armed forces.

    "In addition to planning mass graves and crematoriums operating around the clock, governments are planning to implement martial law in response to a pandemic," Kurt Nimmo wrote on Infowars.com, which has been tracking disturbing developments in swine flu preparedness.

    Nimmo pointed to a report in the Daily Telegraph that referred to the British government's emergency plans for "mass graves, inflatable mortuaries, 24-hour cremations and 'express' funerals."

    Simon Barrett, press officer with the Home Office Press Office, referred questions about Britain's plans to a 2004 Department of Health publication titled, "Pandemic Flu: a national framework for responding to an influenza pandemic," which makes no mention of mass graves and rapid body disposal.

    "Whilst there may be an increase in the number of flu-related deaths, local authorities will be able to cope using normal practices," Barrett said.

    Britain's planning document makes no mention of martial law, but stresses the need to maintain operational readiness.

    "Plans should not assume that local military units would provide support or have personnel available with either the requisite skills or equipment to perform specialist tasks," according to the document.

    But ? even if such severe measures were in the planning stage ? would they amount to hysteria? Or would they be prudent precautions? Many point to the Spanish Flu pandemic of 1918, which killed between 20 million and 50 million people worldwide. Extrapolating those numbers to today's population suggests a comparable death toll of 360 million people, according to Michael Osterholm of the University of Minnesota's Center for Infectious Disease Research & Policy.

    "Expect nothing to happen and prepare for the worst, " says Dr. Peter Katona, an infectious disease expert at UCLA. "We will need ample supply of vaccine and a distribution system that prioritizes who gets it and when." But, he added, "we won't need the military unless it becomes really bad, and the National Guard will be called in first."

    Defense Department spokeswoman Almarah Belk acknowledged the rumors, saying, "There is a camp of people out there concerned about civil liberties and the use of force."

    But she said the planning at the Pentagon is in response to a request from the Department of Homeland Security, and it primarily involves logistics like airlift capabilities for patient transport or delivery of medical supplies.

    Except in special circumstances, the military is forbidden from enforcing civilian law under the Posse Comitatus Act, a Civil War-era law that ended the use of federal troops to oversee elections in former Confederate states.

    "There are checks and balances in place that prevent the use of the military to restrict people's movement or go house to house," said attorney Robert L. Shannon, Jr., an expert on legal restraints covering the military in civilian affairs.

    "But it's important to remember that the president has the option and authority to use federal troops in a national emergency," he added. " I think if we do have a doomsday scenario with swine flu, the American people are going to want their government to respond."

    Shannon, who is vice commander of the Georgia Air National Guard, has firsthand experience from deployments during Hurricane Katrina.

    "If we learned anything from that experience," he said, "it's that thorough advance planning for worst-case scenarios is essential, especially when you've got to coordinate so many different state and federal agencies."

    Forced quarantines were common in the era before vaccines, but health experts doubt their effectiveness and practicality in fighting swine flu.

    "This doesn't appear to be an especially deadly strain," said Deborah Lehman, Director of Pediatric Infectious Disease at Cedars Sinai hospital in Los Angeles. "At this point it looks like the seasonal flu will be responsible for more deaths than swine flu.

    Many experts privately worry not about an overwhelming government response ? but about an inadequate one. "There's simply not going to be enough vaccination doses to go around," said one pharmaceutical industry executive who declined to be named.

    "You're more likely to see the military protecting health facilities and hospitals instead of forcing people to get medication," the executive said.

    So rewrite the script: An uncontrollable, deadly virus ravages the population, triggering martial law to protect a handful of survivors lucky enough to get a vaccination.

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  • #2
    Re: Swine Flu's Worst Case Scenario: Paranoia or Preparedness?

    I remember Martin Gray talking about some peopou protect your children.le in Warsaw in 1937 talking about preparedness for the sake of children.

    You cannot be wrong when you protect your children.

    Snowy

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      Re: Swine Flu's Worst Case Scenario: Paranoia or Preparedness?

      Here's some posts from Dr. Niman from July. I flagged them in my mind back in July because I thought they were an important hypothesis for this fall.:

      Originally posted by niman View Post
      No, We are looking at at 1918 pathogenicity where the mild version in the spring primes patients, and then when those patients are infected in the fall with a related but distinct H1N1, the prior exposure primes the immune system which lauches an agreesive response which creates a cytokine storm and death in 20-55 age group.
      Originally posted by niman View Post
      I am citing this as a POSSIBILITY.

      For the flu vaccine, two shots are required because the first exposure produces and modest response, which is higher after a booster shot.

      That could apply to the 2009 virus when presented to the immune system a second time around. The second exposure could produce a more intense response, which could create problems, in view of examples of death by cytokine storm.

      The pandmeic H1N1 is a swine flu that has jumped species, which can produce undesirable results.
      Originally posted by niman View Post
      The immune system has learned to mount a strong response.

      If the virus has adapted and can spread more efficiently wihin the host, the rapid spread could lead to a cytokine storm when presented with a related virus for the second time.

      I have dubbed this possiblity the "doomsday scenario".

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      • #4
        Re: Swine Flu's Worst Case Scenario: Paranoia or Preparedness?

        ~ WOW... so what if these random folks whose bodies are eliciting such a strong immune response during this first milder wave, are actually experiencing their second exposure? Maybe this virus has been infecting people before we picked up on it, and that would explain some of these random cytokine storm cases??
        Old Mother Goose
        when she wanted to wander,
        would fly through the air
        on a very fine Gander...

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        • #5
          Re: Swine Flu's Worst Case Scenario: Paranoia or Preparedness?

          Is there any I could get my daughter tested for antibodies to the "mild" form? Some sort of virus went around her school in mid-April & she caught it as well. Some kids had fevers; she did not...the most obvious symptom she had was a lingering cough.

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