Hates talk on the internet & consequences

[Mingus]

Hello to all,


I do not know exactly which coverage the Montreal's Dawson College events get on the media abroad but I saw it was the CNN top story late yesterday.

As many of us are profondly involved in the Bird-Flu and pandemic issue, and many may not have noticed the event.

In a "Columbine-like" way, a mad killer have erupt in a college school randomly shooting everywhere. By chance, some polics were already there at the moment and quickly "neutralised" the killer.

At least one victim and 14 injured persons, 4 of them are in critical condition at hospital having been shot in the head, breast, and abdomen.

This sad drama reminding us the effect internets medias can have on distorded or weak soul,

It appear the Dawson's college killer was a Blogger who express his antisocial philosophy and deadly phantasms of gothic style on the internet for years before getting in the act.

I wish every one here could be conscious of that.
Internet medias have an impact and there is responsibility linked to that.



Mingus

[sharon sanders]

Re: Hates talk on the internet & consequences

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-shooting14sep14,0,2402169.story?coll=la-home-world

Man Goes on Rampage at College

The gunman opens fire in Montreal, killing one and injuring at least 19, before he is slain by Canadian police. His identity is not disclosed.
By Sheldon Chad and Maggie Farley
Special to The Times

September 14, 2006

MONTREAL — A gunman opened fire at a downtown college Wednesday, killing a woman and injuring at least 19 other people, eight critically, before police shot and killed him.

Witnesses said the man, in his 20s, with a mohawk haircut and wearing a black trench coat, started shooting randomly with an automatic rifle about 12:40 p.m. outside Dawson College, near a spot where students gather to smoke.

Montreal Police Chief Yvan Delorme said officers arrived minutes after the shooting started and ultimately shot the suspect, who died at the scene. Police did not reveal the man's identity and said they did not know his motive.

"There is no racist or no terrorist link, as far as we know," Delorme said.

Police found the gunman's car nearby and discovered several other weapons and ammunition, said Robert Mansueto, a police spokesman.



The slaying victim was 20, he said, and the wounded ranged in age from 18 to 22.

The gunman fired between 12 and 15 shots in quick succession before entering a campus cafeteria, where he opened fire again, said witnesses, who ran or dived to the ground. Some shots sprayed across the street into the Second Cup coffee shop in the Alexis Nihon plaza, one of Montreal's most popular shopping malls.

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<hr width="20&#37;">maggie.farley@latimes.com

<hr width="20%">Special correspondent Chad reported from Montreal and staff writer Farley from New York.

[Mingus]

Gunman's blog paints dark portrait

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2...4/1838464.html
Gunman's blog paints dark portrait

By LAUREN KRUGEL

CP) - In an online blog, Kimveer Gill includes a photo of a tombstone with his name printed on it - below it the phrase: "Lived fast died young. Left a mangled corpse."

The blog, posted on an online hub of goth culture, paints a dark portrait of the 25-year-old man published reports have identified as the trenchcoat-wearing gunman who opened fire on students at Montreal's Dawson College Wednesday, killing one and injuring 19 others.
Gill's image gallery, which contains more than 50 photos, depicts the young man in various poses holding a Baretta CX4 Storm semi-automatic rifle and donning a long black trenchcoat and combat boots.
"His name is Trench. you will come to know him as the Angel of Death," he wrote on his vampirefreaks.com profile.
"He is not a people person. He has met a handfull (sic) of people in his life who are decent." But he writes that he finds the vast majority to be "worthless, no good, kniving, betraying lieing (sic), deceptive." The last of Gill's six journal entries Wednesday was posted at 10:41 a.m, about two hours before the gunmen was shot dead after the college shooting.

In the latest one, Gill extols the virtues of a morning quaff of whisky. Other posts Wednesday deal with topics as mundane as dry contact lenses, purple freezies, and eating eggs and toast for breakfast.
It is not clear when the photographs were posted. The blog's prominent photo shows a close up of Gill curled into the fetal position, his intense brown eyes peering into the camera from between his bent knees.


"Rock and Roll baby!" reads the caption below another photo, tongue outstretched, holding up a black semi-automatic weapon with one hand and making the sign of the devil with another.
"I think I have an obbsetion (sic) with guns . . . muahahaha," is the inscription below another picture of Gill aiming the barrel of the gun at the camera.
"Anger and hatred simmers within me," said another caption below a head shot of Gill grimacing.
The site also has lengthly lists of likes and dislikes. On the "likes" list are: first-person-shooter video games, "Super Psycho Maniacs roaming the streets freely," massacres, trenchcoats, destruction and "crushing my enemies skulls."
He also shows a penchant for semi-automatic handguns, combat shotguns, sawed-off shotguns, assault rifles and myriad other weapons.
He dislikes: "The world and everything in it."
"But to be more specific," he continues, he hates jocks, preps, country music, Hip Hop, "all those who oppose my rule."
Gill seems to harbour particular disdain for authority, including police, "all the government on Earth," "bible-thumping know-it-alls" and God.
Gills list of favourite music groups is a who's who of heavy metal: Ozzy Osbourne, Marilyn Manson, Iron Maiden, Danzig and Metallica, but only the "old stuff."
His favourite movies list includes mostly gory horror films. He enjoys violent video games including the controversial "Postal," a first-person shooter game, in which the protagonist goes on a killing spree while completing everyday errands.
A questionnaire on the blog reveals both banal and disturbing insights into Gill's life.
He likes drinking, owns 300 CDs, prefers Burger King over MacDonalds and says "heavy metal rules."
He writes that he is 6-foot-1, was born in Montreal and is of Indian heritage. His weakness is laziness and he fears nothing. A goal he'd like to achieve by the end of the year is to stay alive. However, responding to the question, "How do you want to die?" Gill replied "like Romeo and Juliet - or in a hail of gunfire."


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Kimveer Gill, of Laval, north of Montreal is shown in this undated photo taken from a website. Gill is being named as the gunman in the Dawson College shootings by the Montreal La Presse newspaper. A trenchcoat-clad shooter with a scowl and a Mohawk haircut turned a college cafeteria into a combat zone with a commando-style assault that left him and a young woman dead Wednesday. (CP PHOTO)

[Mingus]

Re: Gunman's blog paints dark portrait

Finally, it appear that this was not a personal Blog, but a whole community forum with more than 1000 members.

[Wisdom]

Re: Hates talk on the internet &amp; consequences

You know when I was going to school you never heard of or would dream of a kid coming to school with a gun and killing people. I went to school when God was still allowed in and I was able to say the Pledge of Allegiance. When there was a dispute in school the kids would run to the football field and the two guys would take a quick swing at each other and a teacher would come running and break it up and make the two shake hands and that would be the end of it and it would be over. No one would even think about bringing a gun to school... Just makes you wonder how everything got so ugly in this period of time? One kid does it and now every troubled kid wants to get his one moment of attention from everyone and his face is plastered all over the tv.

[LeaSoul]

Re: Hates talk on the internet &amp; consequences

Ditto Wisdom, ditto.

[sharon sanders]

Re: Hates talk on the internet &amp; consequences

We have been criticized for being a moderated forum. However, we made the decision at the start of Flutrackers not to be a "free speech" forum.

We are very conscious of our social responsibility and instituted the following policy regarding violent talk.

http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9085


also see this thread

http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9600

[Goju]

Re: Hates talk on the internet &amp; consequences

maybe we who survive can build a better place on the other side.

[Mingus]

Re: Hates talk on the internet &amp; consequences

The police web tracking for gun talk have begun...

http://lcn.canoe.com/lcn/infos/faits...18-171253.html

Propos haineux sur le Web

L'adolescent de 15 ans plaide non coupable

Un adolescent de 15 ans de Rivi&#232;re-Beaudet, en Mont&#233;r&#233;gie, a plaid&#233; non coupable lundi &#224; un chef d'accusation de menace. Il a &#233;t&#233; arr&#234;t&#233; chez ses parents t&#244;t lundi matin apr&#232;s avoir fait des menaces sur le m&#234;me site Internet que le tueur de Dawson. L'adolescent y affirmait que Kimveer Gill &#233;tait un mauvais tireur.
Tout en se disant meilleur que lui, le jeune homme a dit qu'il allait faire le m&#233;nage dans son &#233;cole.
L'&#233;tudiant fr&#233;quentait le campus du Westwood Senior High, du Hudson High School.
Sa r&#233;sidence a &#233;t&#233; fouill&#233;e afin d’y trouver des armes.
Une analyse informatique compl&#232;te de son ordinateur sera effectu&#233;e.

Machine translated from wordlingo

Heinous matter on the Web
teenager the 15 year old pleads not culprit

teenager a 15 year old of River-Beaudet, in Mont&#233;r&#233;gie, not culprit Monday with a count of indictment of threat pled. It was stopped in his parents early Monday morning after having made threats on same Internet forum site as the killer of Dawson.
The teenager affirmed there that Kimveer Gill was a bad shooter.
While saying itself better than him, the young man said that it was going to do the housework in his school.
The student attended the campus of Westwood Senior High, of Hudson High School.
Its residence was excavated in order to find weapons there.
A complete data-processing analysis of its computer will be carried out.

[Snowy Owl]

Re: Hates talk on the internet &amp; consequences

S?curit? Publique Canada

?v?nements au Coll?ge Dawson - Des mesures d`aide exceptionnelles en raison de l`ampleur de la trag?die http://www.securitecanada.ca/whatsnew_f.asp#1