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South Korrea is clearly making it up as they go along. There is NO WHO requirement for H5N1 isolation. H5 confirmation by two labs is a confirmed case. Many WHO confirmed human cases did NOT yield H5N1 virus.
This is well into the hocus pocus category.
...Until they will release neutralizing antibodies results. At that point, they should communicate officially the first human confirmed case of H5N1 infection.
Brothers (right) and the 9th Seoul Kangnam-gu of Seoul National University professor of veterinary science and technology centers in the United States yeoksamdong press conference whether or not to open the safety of U.S. beef and avian influenza (AI) recent issues, including measures for the entry says.
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Korean Federation of Science and Technology Group afternoon on the 9th "He said.
TSE diseases ARE scientifically founded... They seem to overlook the severity of breaks in food chain security. It is also a bit strange the unability to reduce the spread of H5N1 epizootics. These facts could suggest some failures in command-chain.
H5N1 False Negative Soldier in South Korea Causes Concern
Recombinomics Commentary 13:21
May 10, 2008 A South Korean soldier tested for bird flu did not contract the deadly virus and will be released from hospital, according to a statement obtained on Friday.
"The soldier, who was quarantined after showing symptoms of bird flu, has tested negative. We have determined his condition was caused by bacterial pneumonia," the Korea Centre for Disease Control and Prevention said in a news release.
Inspectors at the center said yesterday that even though initial examinations detected a small amount of the H5 virus in the patient?s body, including the HA gene that indicates the presence of the virus, they could not find any indicators of the highly contagious H5N1 strain ? the HA and NA genes ? after more detailed tests. H5N1 is one of four strains of the virus that affects humans.
?We think that the H5 virus in the patient?s body was unstable, said Lee Joo-yeon, an inspector at the center. ?It was too weak to prompt the symptoms of bird flu. Also, he did not have the N1 strain of the virus."
Inspectors participating in the tests said that human cases of avian influenza are confirmed when the H5 virus, including the HA gene, and the N1 strain, including the NA gene, are all detected, under the guidelines of the World Health Organization.
The above comments on the H5 confirmed soldier in South Korea raise serious transparency issues. The detection of H5 in a soldier culling H5N1 infected poultry leaves little doubt that the solder was infected with H5N1. The WHO guideline for confirming H5N1 infections do not require the isolation of the virus. Two labs independently confirming H5 is a confirmed cases. Many H5N1 confirmed cases have failed to yield an isolated virus. Since the soldier was under oseltamivir (Tamiflu) chemoprophylaxis and was quickly treated with an increased dose, the failure to isolate virus is not a surprise. Most of the H5N1 isolates from patients are from fatal cases and from samples collected near the time of death when the viral load is high.
There are many examples of false negatives in H5N1 cases. These examples are most obvious when the H5N1 infection involves clusters. In Turkey, the first confirmed cases were among four siblings who presented with symptoms. Although three of the four were unconscious, like the soldier above, they all initially tested negative for H5N1. The three siblings that were unconscious died, and were confirmed with samples collected from their lungs. However, virus was only isolated from 2 of the 3. Moreover, the fourth sibling was never confirmed. However, the lack of confirmation was not unusual. Turkey lab confirmed 21 cases. However, only 12 of 21 were confirmed by the WHO reference lab, and WHO acknowledged that samples had degraded. Moreover, of the 12 confirmed cases, only four yielded H5N1 virus.
Similar results were obtained for the outbreak in Pakistan. Local lab testing yielded 10 H5 positives, but on site testing by a WHO reference lab only confirmed one case. However, since the initial positives included four brothers who developed pneumonia, it was clear that many or all cases lab confirmed on Pakistan were true positives. Eventually two of the brothers were confirmed because of H5N1 antibodies. However, antibody test are optimal when convalescent serum samples collected 3-4 weeks post symptoms are used. Clearly such tests have not been conducted on the soldier above since symptoms began on April 20, yet South Korea has falsely declared the patient negative.
Thus, South Korea is defining new requirements for H5N1 confirmation, which raises serious transparency issues regarding lab confirmation of H5N1 in patients and poultry in Korea.
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Re: South Korea: Suspected H5N1 Human Cases in Seoul
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Among the 135 kinds of serum AI H7N7, H5N1, H9N2 is the most likely infected people, such as gobyeongwonseong bayireoseuda. Tickets from dual-country race in 1997 gobyeongwonseong confirmed H5N1 in Hong Kong in the past six samangke jeonyeomdwae 18 people.
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Experts immune function is dropping, especially the elderly and chronic patients can be infected with increasing lethality of war. Yet no cases of humans infected poultry and humans in meokeoseo infections through reporting, but never do.
AI infected with the flu, fever has taken over as when 38 inhutong Nago, shortness of breath and other symptoms appear. AI to prevent contact with a live duck dalyina avoid going out when he came back from hygiene and wash hands thoroughly and must be cleaned. AI virus is more than five minutes later, the 75 degree Celsius heat up when you learn to eat ducks died because of infections are not dalyina . Poultry breeders, including people who are in contact constantly with the chance of infection is high because the AI to be wearing masks and gloves, and immunizations. Articles on: 2008-05-12 6 http://209.85.171.104/translate_c?hl...20080512006005
The president, "introduced the virus antibacterial"
Kim "Censure recurrence City officials reviewed"
Avian Influenza (AI), including a nationally Chunchon spreading human infection prevention measures in regard to President Lee Myung-bak instructed to spare.
This is the last 10 presidents of the presiding ministers at Cheong Wa Dae and the relationship between AI "last April 1 (AI) occurred in Gimje hwaksandwae people to downtown since the human body even if the problem is not afraid.
Introducing measures to stop the virus, antibacterial, "he emphasized.
The government has, for a preliminary response to prevent human infection of 5 percent of the nation's 2.5 million people minutes to secure Jesse decided to antiviral treatment, including preventive measures and reactive measures decided.
Gimjinseon offices on January 11 avian influenza (AI) Censure recurrence City officials also reviewed measures to strengthen the strength of higher-order hagetdamyeo.
Those who returned at dawn, after a visit to schedule an emergency meeting of gimji live in the afternoon to open the wiretapping "(AI) measures will lead degrees in the field, but effective military action to 'Run', it is most important.
City by the recurrence of human action to make sure that recognition must be immortal, "he said.
In addition, an emergency meeting soon to open bugunsu deputy mayor, daily situation reports for the City gunbyeol measures and countermeasures, and also instructed to check in detail.
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The remarks are still buying gimji week from the scene in the proper implementation of measures designed AI doejiango a rebuke for the castle said.
In particular, he "AI do not have to fear for the life and jikgyeoldoen citizens as a very serious problem, but it did not seem to think," "One should try to spend the best defenses I get nervous if you do not," he said.
AI special measures, the government issued a jiwonki degrees Down 1 billion to buy gimji about "exactly how much the government should be supported sanjeonghae degrees," said the instructions to request additional assistance.
Governor Kim's meeting with AI occurred in the relationship between civil servants and Chuncheon, local hwacheon patrol to visit defenses and thorough anti-epidemic activities that make gihae orders. http://209.85.171.104/translate_c?hl...0117%26t%3D101
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The government-ruling party, saengdal traditional markets - Review saengohri sales ban
Experts say avian influenza medicine and science (AI) is a bigger problem than getting mad cow disease, the reality is that non-(非) hauntings scientific mad cow disease (怪谈) were concerned that measures are delayed.
The AI is rapidly gobyeongwonseong breeding farms and small hwaksandoen a crucial intermediary role of middle-order merchants pointed out that it was named.
The chairman of the 9th yimunhan Institute of Science and Technology Hall in Seoul yeoksamdong Korea Federation of the Korean scientific organizations (gwachong) in a press conference hosted by "AI continues to occur, and the reality is that a bigger problem than getting mad cow disease is properly for discussion Not done, "he said.
Yiyoungsun veterinary professor of Seoul National University, "AI is so serious that the controversy over mad cow disease than Vuitton feel," said "certain hazardous materials such as spinal cord (SRM) more than 30 months to remove U.S. beef imports from 97 countries," he said.
Maratos veterinary professor of Seoul National University, said "AI is now occurring primarily in the winter season, regardless of the cause" and that "there are fundamental problems in the national anti-epidemic system," he said.
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Professor Kim is "middle merchants bought poultry farms infected with the AI from traditional markets or live animal immediately after the catch to supply a restaurant cook in the suburbs AI is in the process of spreading" and that "this country do not hang up quickly in Southeast Asia, such as rings AI that can happen throughout the year, "he warned.
But public health sciences, chairman of the Korean gimgiseok, yiyoungsun professors and experts who attended the meeting "AI measures, but still the situation is urgent steps are not worried about human infection," he said.
They are "AI animals infected with the caliber of people infected or ricochets passing is not good enough," "AI virus is 75 degrees Celsius for five minutes and when he died due to heat up the chicken and duck meat is no possibility that people infected cases reported Equator, "he explained.
AI with regard to proliferation experts bangjichaek central and local institutions will be unified and national anti-epidemic of plague jaenanhyeong diagnosis and early warning system that emphasized the need to create.
The government of GNP and the National Assembly in dangjeonghyeop to open markets to prevent the sale saengohrireul saengdal and decided to review a plan.
In addition, a large restaurant slaughtered if the ruling party and the government is properly managed, considering that the editorial does not create or dochukjang slaughter ban in restaurants, decided to prepare a plan. Meanwhile, Agriculture Food and Fisheries Division at Chuncheon, Gangwon Province to four days, reported sabuk chicken, duck farms are in our 'H5N1-type gobyeongwonseong AI' and hwakjin said.
Re: South Korea: Suspected H5N1 Human Cases in Seoul
Lately a lot of stories from South Korea have been focusing on "Mad cow disease" as the birds have ben dying all around.The Korean beef farmers got a lot of pull and the U.S. will start shipping beef soon,so that is the main story in a lot of papers. Some sites I check have mad cow all over them and not a word of the birds. Also at those site were stories of text messaging and internet hauntings ,spreading rumors about mad cow killing people there already. Now the stories have switched to internet rumors of bird flu. I have not seen any actual talk of any more actual infections since the soldier was declared not infected with "Full blown H5N1."There are plenty of "getting ready to prevent human infection"stories,for the last week, since Seoul confirmed outbreaks and children were at the zoo's playing with chickens.People are not eating chicken or beef and the pork sellers are dancing in the street.I havent seen anything about pigs or dogs catching bf but they eat them there too.Any previous mention of dogs was more than likely a translation machine blip that was supposed to mean ducks I fully expect to see dog, pig and people stories in the near future as they readily admit they are not ready for it and BF is now all over the place and will eventually infect these animals too. Birds are being dumped on the side of the road in large numbers or in open pits and there was talk of groundwater contamination. Now the marketplaces are spreading bf everywhere by truck and car. Seoul is now trying to kill every bird in the city and people have been warned to stay away from pidgeons, doves and other wild birds. South Korea is effectively covered,top to bottom, with Avian Influenza. Here is the bf internet rumors story .... This time, the Internet 'AI conspiracies' <!-- LAYER begin -->
"The government, trying to dilute AI every mad cow disease" will empty
Author of "utjago said" we apologize for the physically raised suspicions
Internet and mobile phone text messages through the 'mad cow hauntings (怪谈)' 'hauntings islands' and the so-called' Internet hauntings 5 'is the second time de tteodon' Avian Influenza (AI) conspiracy theory 'is spreading.
Recently, a portal site, etc. "AI Seoul area for the government to block the spread of mad cow controversy has blown up deliberately," will empty the contents of the floating hwangdangmugyehan.
This is a conspiracy at the AI outbreak was reported that Indonesia itself in the morning six days a few hours before the netizens were a ward office workers said, "Well, Ward got the animals on the farm chicken, duck, but avian flu prompted the breaking news. "" This is a simple case bupulryeo suspected of manipulating (对) national events, "said the captain began.
Some netizens were officially reported in the article came out and said 'Written prophecy' he said peoga proliferation.
The controversial writings on the Internet and the spread of violence was the first 'conspiracy' netizens were claimed, "The fact that a conspiracy was accidentally learned early on to adapt utjago year," said the controversy is hardly sugeureodeulji ttuiwotjiman apology. Pressure has its own apology for the netizens were raised suspicions of conspiracy and refute the netizens were saying this is wrong matseogi.
Some netizens were "forced the government to put pressure on the portal sites to delete comments," he said while claiming that debate continues.
Broadcast Communications Commission for eight days ", once a request to delete a comment," he said. Next, portal sites such as Naver were "never received a request to delete posts from the government itself to delete comments are in fact unfounded stories," he said. http://209.85.135.104/translate_c?hl...181%26main%3D1
Re: South Korea: Suspected H5N1 Human Cases in Seoul
<H4 class=tit_article>Ministry of Agriculture and Fisher, "while AI virus type confirming"
<!-- //湲곗궗 ?쒕ぉ --><!-- 湲곗궗 ?뺣낫 -->The AI virus which occurs recently from domestic isn't the southern total virus where the human body infection characteristic is high against a doubt the agriculture and fisheries foodstuffs department still it probably is a what kind of virus, revealed it was not decided.
Ministry of Agriculture and Fisher led (14th) press information today and is initially discovered from this year domestic the AI virus which to the American disease civil official center and currently it sent it was analyzing and still the result talked it did not come out.
Ministry of Agriculture and Fisher revealed the 16th during that time gene analysis result which comes center the plan which it will inspect.
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Re: South Korea: Suspected H5N1 Human Cases in Seoul
<H4 class=tit_article>Domestic AI virus human body infection worry high Vietnam elder brother and beginning of history
<!-- //湲곗궗 ?쒕ぉ --><!-- 湲곗궗 ?뺣낫 -->It was a birds and phul lwu to sleep (AI) the AI virus which occurs from middle recent our country which the sense of insecurity regarding is added an extra weight the southern total Vietnam elder brother AI virus and gene base sequence came out similar are indication.
'KBS 9:00 news ' referred the end of the 13th government expert, with the AI virus where the base sequence of the AI virus which is diffused at the entire country to occur from 4 beginning of the month chollapuk_do Kimje which pass occurs from Vietnam with the fact that it is similar it became known it reported.
The AI which occurs from the Vietnam back is the veteran complaint where the human body infection worry is high and inside inside one years the hand it is counted in the representative case of the native elder brother virus which occurs.
This year the AI which occurs from our country which occurs was visible the tendency which is in spite of more diffused even in warm weather.
Also also the occurrence frequency was few during that time and phyey the ducks where also the company ratio is low were infected to the AI with the pile and phyey the company the case which it does occurred frequently.
Because of this with the southern total AI virus isn't the AI which is similar haning down the root in our country entire area worry bears the indication which is mixed did from section.
One side, the disease prevention authorities is being this year against the type of virus which flows an official position does not take so far.
Domestic AI virus human body infection worry high Vietnam elder brother and beginning of history
<!-- //湲곗궗 ?쒕ぉ --><!-- 湲곗궗 ?뺣낫 -->It was a birds and phul lwu to sleep (AI) the AI virus which occurs from middle recent our country which the sense of insecurity regarding is added an extra weight the southern total Vietnam elder brother AI virus and gene base sequence came out similar are indication.
'KBS 9:00 news ' referred the end of the 13th government expert, with the AI virus where the base sequence of the AI virus which is diffused at the entire country to occur from 4 beginning of the month chollapuk_do Kimje which pass occurs from Vietnam with the fact that it is similar it became known it reported.
The AI which occurs from the Vietnam back is the veteran complaint where the human body infection worry is high and inside inside one years the hand it is counted in the representative case of the native elder brother virus which occurs.
This year the AI which occurs from our country which occurs was visible the tendency which is in spite of more diffused even in warm weather.
Also also the occurrence frequency was few during that time and phyey the ducks where also the company ratio is low were infected to the AI with the pile and phyey the company the case which it does occurred frequently.
Because of this with the southern total AI virus isn't the AI which is similar haning down the root in our country entire area worry bears the indication which is mixed did from section.
One side, the disease prevention authorities is being this year against the type of virus which flows an official position does not take so far.
Re: South Korea: Suspected H5N1 Human Cases in Seoul
Bird Flu Quarantine System Overhaul May be Needed Wednesday, May 14, 2008 15:07:45
Calls are increasing for an overhaul of the nation?s efforts to fight bird flu, after a highly pathogenic virus reported here was found to be similar to a Vietnamese one.
A government official said a highly pathogenic virus that caused bird flu in North Jeolla Province last month was confirmed to have DNA similar to that of a Vietnamese strain.
The Ministry for Food, Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries will discuss the DNA test results in a meeting of its epidemiological committee Friday.
The meeting will focus on the possibility of human infection by the virus, which has been examined by the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Experts predict the nation will likely suffer bird flu throughout the year if it fails to exterminate what they call the "southern-type virus."
However, agriculture officials say it's too early to classify the virus by DNA type until all bird flu viruses found here are tested.
It is not clear. Is the newswire stating that the H5N1 strain in South Korea is a new reassortant of Vietnamese one and another from outer sources?
It is worth noting that in early 2005 a new H5N1 was found in northern Vietnam. Although it was still clade 1, it had acquired an HA cleavage site that had dropped an R. This cleavage site matched the cleavage site in the 2003/2004 isolates from South Korea/Japan (RERR_KKR) indicating thyey had recombined.
It is worth noting that in early 2005 a new H5N1 was found in northern Vietnam. Although it was still clade 1, it had acquired an HA cleavage site that had dropped an R. This cleavage site matched the cleavage site in the 2003/2004 isolates from South Korea/Japan (RERR_KKR) indicating thyey had recombined.
Will we start to see a similar (2003/2004) epizootics activity pattern?
Will we start to see a similar (2003/2004) epizootics activity pattern?
The problem with the the novel cleavage site was on the human side in northern Vietnam (larger clusters and milder cases which ALMOST led to an increase from Phase 3 to 4 or 5 at meeting in Manila in May, 2005).
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There are plenty of "getting ready to prevent human infection"stories,for the last week, since Seoul confirmed outbreaks and children were at the zoo's playing with chickens.People are not eating chicken or beef and the pork sellers are dancing in the street.I havent seen anything about pigs or dogs catching bf but they eat them there too.Any previous mention of dogs was more than likely a translation machine blip that was supposed to mean ducks
I fully expect to see dog, pig and people stories in the near future as they readily admit they are not ready for it and BF is now all over the place and will eventually infect these animals too. Birds are being dumped on the side of the road in large numbers or in open pits and there was talk of groundwater contamination. Now the marketplaces are spreading bf everywhere by truck and car. Seoul is now trying to kill every bird in the city and people have been warned to stay away from pidgeons, doves and other wild birds. South Korea is effectively covered,top to bottom, with Avian Influenza. Here is the bf internet rumors story
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