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  • French doctors say they found a Covid-19 patient from December 2019

    There's new evidence that the coronavirus may have been in France weeks earlier than was previously thought.

    Doctors at a Paris hospital say they've found evidence that one patient admitted in December was infected with Covid-19. If verified, this finding would show that the virus was already circulating in Europe at that time -- well before the first known cases were diagnosed in France or hotspot Italy.

    "Covid-19 was already spreading in France in late December 2019, a month before the official first cases in the country," the team at Groupe Hospitalier Paris Seine in Saint-Denis wrote in a study published Sunday in the International Journal of Antimicrobial Agents.

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    There's new evidence that the coronavirus may have been in France weeks earlier than was previously thought.
    “Addressing chronic disease is an issue of human rights – that must be our call to arms"
    Richard Horton, Editor-in-Chief The Lancet

    ~~~~ Twitter:@GertvanderHoek ~~~ GertvanderHoek@gmail.com ~~~

  • #2
    SARS-COV-2 was already spreading in France in late December 2019


    Highlights

    •Covid-19 was already spreading in France in late December 2019, a month before the official first cases in the country.

    •Early community spreading changes our knowledge of covid-19 epidemic.

    •This new case changes our understanding of the epidemic and modeling studies should adjust to this new data.

    Abstract

    The COVID-19 epidemic is believed to have started in late January 2020 in France. We report here a case of a patient hospitalized in December 2019 in our intensive care, of our hospital in the north of Paris, for hemoptysis with no etiological diagnosis and for which RT-PCR was performed retrospectively on the stored respiratory sample which confirmed the diagnosis of COVID-19 infection. Based on this result, it appears that the COVID-19 epidemic started much earlier.



    We report an observation of a patient infected with COVID-19 one month before the first reported cases in our country. On admission, the patient presented clinical signs and radiological patterns frequently seen previously in the Chinese12 and Italian13 cohorts.
    The COVID-19 epidemic is believed to have started in late January 2020 in France. We report here a case of a patient hospitalized in December 2019 in …
    “Addressing chronic disease is an issue of human rights – that must be our call to arms"
    Richard Horton, Editor-in-Chief The Lancet

    ~~~~ Twitter:@GertvanderHoek ~~~ GertvanderHoek@gmail.com ~~~

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    • JJackson
      JJackson commented
      Editing a comment
      The patient had no China travel history, or know contacts with travelers, so seems to be a local community transmission.

  • #4
    "Il y a beaucoup d'athlètes des Jeux mondiaux militaires qui ont été très malades. On a eu un contact avec le médecin militaire récemment qui nous a dit : je pense que vous l'avez eu parce qu'il y a beaucoup de gens de cette délégation qui ont été malades."
    https://actu.orange.fr/france/corona...0001pX5RE.html

    il est à espérer que les médecins militaires de l'ensemble de ces délégations, vont et se mettre au travail et produire des documents neutres et de qualité ...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_World_Games

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    • #5
      https://assets.publishing.service.go...in2020wk01.pdf

      Pneumonia admissions to hospital increased sharply in middle/late December in the UK. Personal experiences of ILI at that time were, universally from personal contacts who contracted this ILI, high fever and a dry cough that in some cases took two months to get rid of.

      Gastroenteritis and asthma figures were also elevated for this period.
      “The only security we have is our ability to adapt."

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      • #6
        https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ef-claims.html

        Sweden likely had coronavirus cases as early as November last year, the country's virus chief has revealed.

        State epidemiologist Anders Tegnell claimed individual cases would have been detected among travellers from Wuhan.

        He told Sweden's TT news agency: 'There wasn't any spread [of infection] outside Wuhan until we saw it in Europe later.

        'But I think that you could find individual cases among Wuhan travellers who were there in November to December last year. That doesn't sound at all strange, but rather very natural.'
        ...SNIP
        “The only security we have is our ability to adapt."

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        • #7
          Originally posted by bertrand789 View Post
          "Il y a beaucoup d'athlètes des Jeux mondiaux militaires qui ont été très malades. On a eu un contact avec le médecin militaire récemment qui nous a dit : je pense que vous l'avez eu parce qu'il y a beaucoup de gens de cette délégation qui ont été malades."
          https://actu.orange.fr/france/corona...0001pX5RE.html

          il est à espérer que les médecins militaires de l'ensemble de ces délégations, vont et se mettre au travail et produire des documents neutres et de qualité ...
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_World_Games

          Translation Google

          Covid-19: French athletes contaminated in Wuhan in October?

          Several athletes, returning from the World Military Games held in late October in China, complained of symptoms upon their return. They may have contracted Covid-19.

          The French delegation engaged in the 7th World Military Summer Games from October 18 to 27, 2019, in Wuhan, China. 406 participants including 281 athletes, with over 100 top athletes.

          By David Opoczynski

          May 5, 2020 at 3:52 p.m., modified May 6, 2020 at 8:48 a.m.

          These are words that made no noise at the time. However, they could offer crucial light in the difficult search for the origins of the Covid-19 . During an interview granted on March 25 to the local TV channel Loire 7 , to discuss the news related to the postponement of the Tokyo Olympic Games , Elodie Clouvel, the world champion of modern pentathlon, slipped a precious answer. This testimony could turn out to be just as disturbing as the retroactive analysis of tests kept at Bondy hospital, which made it possible to identify a carrier of the virus as of December 27 in France.

          Elodie Clouvel had just been asked about her possible anxiety about considering a summer in Japan, "on a continent where the disease has declared itself". "No, because I think that with Valentin (Editor's note: Belaud, his companion, pentathlete too) we already had the coronavirus, finally the Covid-19", she then launched.

          "We weren't talking about it yet"
          And the 31-year-old woman explains: “We were in Wuhan for the World Military Games in late October. And, in fact, it turns out that after we all got sick. Valentin missed three days of training. I was sick too. […] I had things that I had not had before. We weren't more worried than that because we weren't talking about it yet. "

          His conclusion is also unequivocal: “There are many athletes from the World Military Games who were very sick. We had contact with the military doctor recently who told us: I think you had it because many people in this delegation were sick . "

          En Or @Gendarmerie @SportsDefense #armeedechampions # Wuhan2019 #WorldMilitaryGames pic.twitter.com/CkDAkDBmix

          - ÉLODIE CLOUVEL (@Eloclouvel) October 24, 2019

          As a reminder, until today, the first recognized case of Covid-19 in China dates back to November 17. The Military World Games - nearly 10,000 athletes representing 100 nations - took place from October 18 to 27. They had already appeared in the chronology of events when Zhao Lijian, spokesman for the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, had suggested on Twitter, on March 12, that the coronavirus could have been introduced by the American delegation having participated in it.

          Several testimonials

          This Tuesday, BFMTV also reported, on condition of anonymity, the testimony of one of the 281 French athletes present in Wuhan and "fell ill as did several members of the French delegation" upon his return.

          Elodie Clouvel, for her part, did not wish to follow up on our requests to talk about the subject again. Its media release on March 25 would not necessarily have been to the taste of the military hierarchy. Since then, most athletes have been asked to stop responding to journalists on the subject. As several have entrusted to us: instructions were given to them to refer the questions to the direction of the communication of the armies. Tricolor athletes, present in Wuhan, had, however, received a call from the army a few weeks ago to reassure them. "We are told: there is no risk, you left on October 28 and the virus arrived on November 1," said one of them.

          In this context, the French have no reason to have been the only potentially contaminated athletes. Many patients were thus listed within the Swedish delegation, which has a hundred members, including some victims of high fevers upon their return. "But none of the people tested gave a positive result," said in mid-April, at the NSD site, the communication service of the Swedish armed forces.

          L'essentiel website, for its part , reports the testimonies of certain Luxembourg sportspeople. Swimmer Julien Henx remembers an infrared body temperature control when getting off the plane. The pitcher Bob Bertemes remembers that "in the village they cleaned everything twice a day and at midnight they went to cleaning the streets". Before adding, regarding the swimmer Raphaël Stacchiotti: “He was sick there. Since we have the room telling him that it was him the first case ".

          http://www.leparisien.fr/internation...20-8311221.php
          "Safety and security don't just happen, they are the result of collective consensus and public investment. We owe our children, the most vulnerable citizens in our society, a life free of violence and fear."
          -Nelson Mandela

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          • JJackson
            JJackson commented
            Editing a comment
            Serology testing should prove, or disprove, COVID as the cause of their illness. Has a sequence been released for the late December case, if so does anyone know its accession number?

        • #8
          Vu le nombre de médailles des militaires américains, ils ont été mauvais, diplomate ou malade ?
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_World_Games
          le siège
          https://www.milsport.one/
          la direction
          https://www.milsport.one/cism/board-of-directors
          le siège est à Bruxelles mais confiné, donc fermé
          https://www.milsport.one/news/news-p...ate-30-04-2020
          comme ils sont pour le non dopage :
          https://www.milsport.one/events/anti-doping
          il y a outre le suivi normal d'un militaire mais aussi le suivi d'une ou d'un compétiteur, donc il y a ce qu'il faut pour éclairer ce sujet ...

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          • #9
            someone said the Dec27 case was not sequenced (yet ?) . I'd expect more frozen ILI-samples from Dec-Jan to be examined worldwide.
            Maybe even non-frozen samples , paraffin-samples or autopsies ?
            Why only now, 4 months later ?

            a wide circulation in Oct is inconsistant with the sequences
            I'm interested in expert panflu damage estimates
            my current links: http://bit.ly/hFI7H ILI-charts: http://bit.ly/CcRgT

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            • #10
              Du 18 au 27 octobre 2019, 9308 sportifs identifiés de 110 nations, se trouvaient à Wuhan. Certains ont indiqué avoir été malade, on sait quoi d'eux au regard de leur état de santé et immunitaire ?

              Ce me semble, un vrai sujet pour L'O.M.S et les 110 nations membres concernées. Ce n'est pas une inspection, mais un introspection. Chaque nation est en droit de faire et de publier, mais ce serait mieux si cela se faisait de façon coordonnée...

              Comme cette interrogation est partagée et pas par n'importe qui :
              "Plusieurs athlètes affirment avoir été contaminés au coronavirus lors des Jeux militaires, qui ont eu lieu à Wuhan à l'automne. "Ça me paraît tout à fait plausible, estime Eric Caumes, chef du service des maladies infectieuses et tropicales de l'hôpital de la Pitié-Salpêtrière"

              http://www.virusprion.fr/72144884

              ce serait bien que : "ce qui se doit, soit" ...

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              • #11
                "The World Health Organization said the French case was "not surprising" and urged countries to investigate any other early suspicious cases."
                https://mobile-reuters-com.cdn.amppr.../idUSKBN22I1E3

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                • #12

                  Translation Google

                  Coronavirus: first suspected cases from mid-November in Alsace

                  05/07/2020 at 11.57 am

                  At the end of February, the first case of Covid-19 contamination in Alsace was officially identified: a 36-year-old man who returned from a trip to Lombardy. In a press release published on Thursday, Doctor Michel Schmitt, head of the medical imaging department at the Albert Schweitzer hospital in Colmar, however announced that he suspected "the first cases from November 16".

                  While "several health professionals have noted this winter atypical health accidents in adults or children, quickly qualified as influenza", the doctor and his team reviewed 2456 chest scans performed between November 1 and April 30, for all reasons (cardiac, pulmonary, traumatic, tumor pathologies).

                  According to this retrospective study, the first cases of contamination with Covid-19 were thus identified in mid-November in this hospital in Colmar.

                  Slow progress until the end of February

                  Michel Schmitt explains that he then observed "a very slow progression in the incidence of the pathology until the end of February ", then a rapid increase after the end-of-year holidays and the religious gathering in Mulhouse, at the origin of ten cases of contamination in the country .

                  These analyzes must now be confirmed: the medical imaging department of the Albert Schweitzer hospital in Colmar informs that it has launched a collaboration with the CNRS to start an epidemiological exploitation of these results and believes that this study could be deepened "thanks to data biological or hospitalization reports ", but also be extended to other imaging centers.

                  A case in December in Île-de-France

                  At present, the oldest case listed in France dates back to December 27: Amirouche Hammar , 43, suffered from dry cough, fever fever, severe breathing difficulties and chest pain. He had been hospitalized but the origin of the illness remained mysterious for the healthcare teams. Reconsideration of a sample taken at the time has since confirmed that it had been affected by Covid-19.

                  Mélanie Rostagnat

                  https://www.bfmtv.com/sante/coronavi...e-1909348.html

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                  Coronavirus: cases of Covid-19 in Alsace from November 16?

                  By Nicolas Berrod

                  On May 7, 2020 at 1:59 p.m. , as amended on May 7, 2020 at 14:20

                  When did the zero patient of the Covid-19 go back to France? It was thought since May 4 that the first patient had been identified at the end of December , it could ultimately be that cases appeared as early as November.

                  The Albert Schweitzer hospital in Colmar (Haut-Rhin), located in one of the departments most affected by the epidemic , indeed published this Thursday a statement indicating that at least one patient treated on November 16 was infected with the coronavirus.

                  What did these doctors discover?

                  Doctor Michel Schmitt, chief doctor of the medical imaging department of this private hospital, dived back into his archives. He analyzed 2,456 chest scans performed between November and April on patients with different pathologies (cardiac, pulmonary, traumatic, tumor, etc.)

                  The files considered to be characteristic of Covid-19 disease were then "reviewed at second and then third reading by two other experienced radiologists".

                  It appears that the first cases seeming related to the coronavirus date from November 16. The curve projected on a graph then shows a "very slow progression in the incidence of pathology until the end of February", then a "rapid increase in incidence with a peak on March 31". The evangelical gathering in Mulhouse (Haut-Rhin), which blew up the epidemic in the Grand Est region and then in the country, took place from February 17 to 24.

                  Is it credible?

                  Two radiologists, contacted by Le Parisien, confirm the interest of a retrospective analysis of scanners. "We have noticed that there are four types of specific lesions which are aspects common to Covid-19 pneumonia," says Jean-Philippe Masson, president of the National Federation of Radiologists (FNMR).

                  "These lesions are more or less marked depending on the severity of the infection and can also be seen in patients with little or no symptoms, it is relatively reliable," he says. "There are certain specific lesions and we have, a priori, enough images in a scanner to distinguish them and establish a connection with the pathology," supports another radiologist who practices in the Paris region.

                  What will happen now?

                  However, there is still no certainty that these individuals were indeed infected with the coronavirus. Only a biological screening could allow to establish it, for example via a serological test to detect the possible presence of antibodies. (especially if no PCR virological sample was taken at the time).

                  http://www.leparisien.fr/societe/cor...20-8312496.php
                  "Safety and security don't just happen, they are the result of collective consensus and public investment. We owe our children, the most vulnerable citizens in our society, a life free of violence and fear."
                  -Nelson Mandela

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                  • #13
                    Translation Google

                    Press release

                    Coronavirus / COVID19
                    07 May 2020
                    Albert Schweitzer Hospital
                    Contact
                    Emilie LOESCH - Director of Communication
                    emilie.loesch@diaconat-mulhouse.fr - 03 89 32 57 05

                    In the medical imaging department of the Albert Schweitzer Hospital in Colmar, Doctor Michel
                    Schmitt, chief physician of the medical imaging department, is currently analyzing the whole
                    scanner photos taken in the establishment since the beginning of November.

                    An analysis that provides a lot of information on the spread of the coronavirus in
                    our region.

                    A first case from November 16

                    For the past few days, Doctor Schmitt has been carrying out a retrospective study on 2,456 scanners
                    thoracic tests performed between November 1 and April 30. All the pictures are analyzed, all
                    combined reasons: cardiac, pulmonary, traumatic, tumor pathologies. The
                    selected “COVID compatible” or “typical COVID” files were reviewed in second
                    then at third reading by two other experienced radiologists.

                    A track for a better understanding of the epidemiological curve

                    The results of the study were analyzed and plotted on graphs. The curve
                    epidemiological that is emerging is significant and indicates the following results:
                    - First cases noted in our center on 11/16
                    - Very slow progression in the incidence of pathology until the end of February
                    - Then rapid increase in incidence with a peak on 3/31/2020
                    The decay needs further study.
                    A collaboration is launched with the CNRS to start an epidemiological exploitation
                    results.

                    For Dr. Schmitt, some cases were therefore already in circulation in the region at the beginning
                    of November.
                    The virus then dispersed very sporadically. Contagion
                    accelerated during the end of year events: Christmas markets, family celebrations,
                    until the epidemic explodes after a religious rally in Mulhouse, the last
                    week of February.

                    The reasons for the study

                    Several health professionals have noted this winter atypical health accidents
                    in adults or children, quickly qualified as flu: temperature and cough developing
                    longer than usual (2 to 3 weeks), loss of voice (aphonia), taste or
                    smell, unusual state of persistent fatigue, weight loss ...

                    At that time, if an epidemic with respiratory translation was known in China, nothing evoked
                    such a pathology elsewhere in the world and the signs, both clinical and para-clinical
                    (whose imaging results) were not yet known.

                    The epidemic wave then arrived: the first cases diagnosed with COVID were in
                    Colmar on February 25 and a first death was recorded on March 4. Then came the
                    wave of submersion, from which the department begins to emerge thanks to containment and
                    social distancing measures; also thanks to the natural evolution of a viral epidemic.

                    The care of COVID patients in the Pole du Diaconat Center Alsace

                    The establishments of the Private Health Center of the Diaconat Center Alsace are organized to
                    manage patients with COVID19.
                    - Albert Schweitzer Hospital,
                    - The Diaconat Colmar clinic and reception center,
                    have more than 80 dedicated beds. Patients are admitted in particular, in transfer of
                    Colmar Civil Hospitals. The establishments treated nearly 300 patients
                    COVID19.

                    Of course, the establishment is considering many avenues to pursue this
                    study. On the one hand, it can be deepened thanks to biological data or
                    still hospitalization reports, and on the other hand be extended to other centers
                    imagery.

                    file:///C:/Users/admin/Downloads/le-...schweitzer.pdf
                    "Safety and security don't just happen, they are the result of collective consensus and public investment. We owe our children, the most vulnerable citizens in our society, a life free of violence and fear."
                    -Nelson Mandela

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                    • #14
                      "Contactée, l’armée française affirme que les athlètes qui ont participé à la compétition internationale à Wuhan ne seront pas testés. "
                      https://rmc.bfmtv.com/emission/coron...s-1908002.html

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