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Unvaccinated and Omicron

GardenSpider

Well-known member
Great news for all of your unvaccinated friends. This, coupled with early treatment protocols means Omicron is manageable for most people.

Review of Clinical Outcomes in Patients with CoVid in Southern California
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.11.22269045v1

Medical Lectures: Dr. Mobeen discusses:
Unvaccinated and Omicron - Study from California (Preprint) A study sponsored by CDC shows that Omicron is less severe in vaccinated and unvaccinated patients. Let's review how less?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=D0gWB9M8538
 
While I appreciate the need to get early data out as quickly as possible I would caution about the over interpretation of the data in this preprint. The crux of my problem with it comes from the timing. The data was collected between the 30th of Nov and the 1st of Jan and the date of publication was the 11th of Jan but I could not see a date for the last collection of case data i.e. how long after detection elapsed before they could be catagorised as either as hospitalised, ICU or dead.

The table below shows the proportion of delta vs omicron cases over the sampling period from which it is clear that there is a significant lag between the bulk of the delta cases and those for omicron.

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Given that it takes 2 or 3 weeks to get to a point where patients need ICU admission and another week before they begin to die a few of the delta cases may have had that long but hardly any of the omicron cases. Some of the data is encouraging, when you look at the admissions end of the time spectrum, but without adjustment for the difference of onset dates by strain a direct comparison is not valid as the average onset date for delta is mid Dec but for Omicron 10 days later.
 
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