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Swine Flu Discussion Gets Heated In Bucks Co. PA

Shiloh

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Source: http://wfmz.com/view/?id=1254619

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POSTED: 08-22-2009 06:33 PM ET | MODIFIED: 08-22-2009 06:35 PM ET
Swine Flu Discussion Gets Heated In Bucks County

CDC officials are hosting H1N1 conferences across the country to try and ease the minds of skeptical consumers. A meeting in lower Bucks County today got some concerned citizens all fired up about the vaccine. WFMZ's Stephanie Esposito was there, and has the story.


"Frequent hand washing is encouraged during influenza season."

It started out as a video in a conference room in a Trevose, Lower Bucks County hotel.

"This widespread rapid spread is called a pandemic."

The entire meeting wasn't so orderly, in fact people started raising concerns about the H1N1 Vaccine, the intentions of the pharmacuetical companies and the United states government.

"I don't trust this government. I feel this government hides information from it's people."

It was clear, the audience came armed with information.

"The swine flu in 1976 More people died from the vaccine than from the flu itself. I feel this is being hyped.

"In the state of Texas they're not allowing children into school unless they get the shot. Know anything about that?"

The group had several concerns...first the origin of H1N1...which some said they believe to have been created intentionally. Second, vaccine safety...and the speed in which they're being released on to the market.

"We're playing russian roullete with the lives of the people we administer this chemical to."

Herb Newborg is the Vice President of Chiropractic America...he and others suggested the government will bypass FDA regulations in order to release the vaccination by October....saying H1N1 cases are expected to spike in the fall. Their main concern, a particular chemical that's used to stretch the vaccine supply.

"It's been connected to neurological deficits that have been labeled gulf war syndrome." .>>REPORTER:

Joe Funk is the Director of Health and Human services in Bucks County.

"The CDC has indicated and I believe in their sincerity that they're working with the FDA on indigens that are being placed in vaccinations."

CDC officials maintained there is no evidence H1N1 was created deliberately. The CDC also confirmed there are no plans to force H1N1immunizations.

"I have enough faith in our country and the CDC in terms of making certain that people are protected and their health is protected."

At the end of the day, they agreed to disagree... and continue with their own research. Stephanie Esposito 69 News.
 
Re: Swine Flu Discussion Gets Heated In Bucks Co. PA

This discussion took place just a couple miles from where I live. I wish I had some advance warning, as I would have loved to have attended. Nice to see so many of my neighbors are aware of the pandemic, even if they do harbor some bizarre theories (virus created intentionally, etc.)

There is also a mistake in the article. The article says there is an issue with an "indigen" in the vaccine. That is a wrong word. I think they mean "antigen", although they might mean "adjuvant".

Channel 69 News is not a major news station here. Make of that whatever you will.
 
Re: Swine Flu Discussion Gets Heated In Bucks Co. PA

Your right, they should have asked them when they expect the second wave to peak.

Then the officials, if they were being honest, would have answered "in mid to late October".

Then they could have had a discussion about when the flu vaccine was supposed to be available.

Then the officials could have said "in mid to late October".

They they could have asked, "How long to does it take to get immunity from the virus by getting the vaccine?"

THen the officials could have said, "about 5 weeks".

Then the people could have asked themselves why they were all concerned about a vaccine that wouldn't even be able to do anything for them because by the time they get immunity the second wave will have already passed.
 
Re: Swine Flu Discussion Gets Heated In Bucks Co. PA

Your right, they should have asked them when they expect the second wave to peak.

Then the officials, if they were being honest, would have answered "in mid to late October".

Then they could have had a discussion about when the flu vaccine was supposed to be available.

Then the officials could have said "in mid to late October".

They they could have asked, "How long to does it take to get immunity from the virus by getting the vaccine?"

THen the officials could have said, "about 5 weeks".

Then the people could have asked themselves why they were all concerned about a vaccine that wouldn't even be able to do anything for them because by the time they get immunity the second wave will have already passed.

Exactly! The whole vaccine debate is obfuscating the real issues!
 
Re: Swine Flu Discussion Gets Heated In Bucks Co. PA

Exactly! The whole vaccine debate is obfuscating the real issues!

Imagin what mass behaviour they will get if they admited that apart an thiny special part, no one will get the vaccines until the pandemic 2nd wave incognita wouldn't be over ...

But maybe the 2nd wave peak will be later, and than vacc. could help someway.
 
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#1: "Their main concern, a particular chemical that's used to stretch the vaccine supply.

"It's been connected to neurological deficits that have been labeled gulf war syndrome.""



If it's about the supposed MF59 effects used in people younger than 65 years, it must now exist enaugh clinical info results from EU somministrations during several years, to help spure out if it is the real precursor for disorders as presented by the gulf war syndrome (autoimmune dis. possibilities aired),
or
there were other chems/compounds/releases at the field there, which induced the illness.

Any field study from there:
- are all mil at the field being vaccinated with the same adjuvanted vacc?
- if not, are other mil at the same/near fields exibited the syndrome?
If not the link is weak, if yes, stil could be other field contaminations reasons?
- are out there other mil vaccinated with MF59 adjuvanted vaccines who didn't go to the Gulf, and exibit the same syndrome also?

Isn't somehow suspect that all the blame for the syndrome must be atributed to an adjuvant, with all the toxicals down there?

Anybody could drag here some research, or public informations about, to clear, or spur out the dangers from MF59 in an actual/future pandemic flu vaccine?
 
Re: Swine Flu Discussion Gets Heated In Bucks Co. PA

#9 link:
"... 1996 ... The reported ailments include headaches, muscle and joint pain, loss of memory and other more serious illnesses."


It will be interesting to know if the public studies about EU allowed MF59 adjuvant, have equaly high used dosage levels of MF59 as the prior 1996 elsewhere, and if such field clinical studies revealed "loss of memory", or other equal specific illnesses in subjects below 65 years, enaugh long time after their MF59 adjuvanted vaccinations.
 
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