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States with highest population-based death rates - what's going on out west? Posts from 2009

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According to CDC, "Native Americans or AK Native" (children) represent 1% of population and at the time they did info on deaths, they represented 1% of total pediatric deaths.

When they looked at case reports for "American Indians or AK Native", between April 19-June 16, they represented 3.5%.

From this report (April 14-Sept30), it appears Hispanics and Blacks have disproportional death rates.
http://www.cdc.gov/Vaccines/recs/acip/downloads/mtg-slides-oct09/12-2-flu-vac.pdf
 
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Missouriwatcher said:
According to CDC, "Native Americans or AK Native" (children) represent 1% of population and at the time they did info on deaths, they represented 1% of total pediatric deaths.

When they looked at case reports for "American Indians or AK Native", between April 19-June 16, they represented 3.5%.

From this report (April 14-Sept30), it appears Hispanics and Blacks have disproportional death rates.
http://www.cdc.gov/Vaccines/recs/acip/downloads/mtg-slides-oct09/12-2-flu-vac.pdf
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Here are the number of deaths in each of the subject states as of August 31st:

South Dakota - 0
New Mexico - 2
Wyoming - 1
Arizona - 20
Alaska - 3
Utah - 18
Nevada - 10
Montana - 1
California - 167
Puerto Rico - 30
Colorado - 1
Rhode Island - 3
Washington - 14
 
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Shannon said:
Probably coincidental but, the top 5 states also may have the highest percent of Native Americans.
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The latest AK DHSS report (posted under Alaska), said the highest infection rates were in Alaskan natives and Asia/Pacific natives. Both groups here have a lot of obesity, especially the large Samoan population in Anchorage.

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Obesity rates map is below. Notice it is the opposite of H1N1 death rates.

fattest-states-2008-468.gif

http://calorielab.com/news/2008/07/02/fattest-states-2008/

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Missouriwatcher said:
According to CDC, "Native Americans or AK Native" (children) represent 1% of population and at the time they did info on deaths, they represented 1% of total pediatric deaths.

When they looked at case reports for "American Indians or AK Native", between April 19-June 16, they represented 3.5%.

From this report (April 14-Sept30), it appears Hispanics and Blacks have disproportional death rates.
http://www.cdc.gov/Vaccines/recs/acip/downloads/mtg-slides-oct09/12-2-flu-vac.pdf
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We need to look at ALL races, and not just compare American natives to caucasian. The US has so many immigrants, many of whom have issues similar to US natives.

In the CDC report above, the highest death rates were in "other" non-white/hispanic races or racially-mixed of non-caucasian/hispanic.

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Living in Kansas, this thread makes me question what is so different about South Dakota when compared to other plains states?

Thus, I started looking at Kansas and several other states neighboring those with high death rates to determine their death rate. I used FluTrackers for the death count and 2008 US Census estimates for the population.

State - deaths - population - deaths/million
Kansas - 21 - 2802134 - 7.5
Nebraska - 7 - 1783432 - 3.9
North Dakota - 2 - 641481 - 3.1
Oklahoma - 38 - 3642361 - 10.4
Idaho - 15 - 1523816 - 9.8
Oregon - 61 - 3790060 - 16.1

After looking at this data in comparison to South Dakota, I have to join JimO in questioning what is going on in South Dakota. Many of their deaths have occurred in the southeast corner of the state (near Iowa) but not all. [see page 6 of weekly summary] South Dakota week 46 Summary

A Texas study indicates that lack on insurance and/or access to health care may be an issue. Latinos hard hit by H1N1

Hispanics accounted for more than half of the 95 swine flu-related deaths in Texas in the first six months of the H1N1 pandemic, an analysis by the state health department found.

Hispanics predominate in the state's southernmost counties, where 28 percent of the H1N1 deaths happened through Oct. 17.

The area “clearly is the hot spot” for the state's H1N1 deaths, said Dr. Joseph McCormick, regional dean of The University of Texas School of Public Health in Brownsville.

Several physical conditions that are more common among Hispanics have been identified by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as risk factors for H1N1 becoming fatal. They include pregnancy, diabetes and possibly obesity, McCormick said.

Residents in Rio Grande Valley counties are more likely to lack medical insurance and have less access to health care than the average Texan.

“Viruses don't care whether you're black or white or whether you're Hispanic or not,” said Lovell A. Jones, a health disparities researcher who directs the Center for Research on Minority Health at Houston's M.D. Anderson Cancer Center.

Latinos, who represent 37 percent of the state's population, comprised 52 percent of H1N1 deaths — even with 17 percent of victims having an unknown race or ethnicity — so their actual share may be even higher. Hispanics also accounted for nearly two-thirds of intensive care unit admissions for swine flu
 
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Are people who have no medical insurance more likely to take over the counter pharmaceuticals like cepacol? which has benzocaine?
Benzocaine also is a well-known cause of methemoglobinemia.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzocaine
Benzocaine Lozenges

Generic Name: Benzocaine (BEN-zoe-kane)
Brand Name: Examples include Cepacol Maximum Strength and Laryngesic
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http://www.drugs.com/cdi/benzocaine-lozenges.html
Benzocaine Sprays - Increased Risk of Methemoglobinemia

February 15, 2006

The FDA released a public health advisory reminding healthcare professionals of adverse effects such as methemoglobinemia associated with benzocaine sprays. The VA is no longer administering benzocaine topical throat sprays before minor surgical procedures or intubation due to increased risk of methemoglobinemia. This potentially fatal adverse reaction may be caused by using too much benzocaine or using the product for a longer duration than recommended. The FDA is not planning to remove the drug from the market because when used properly it can greatly benefit patients and the risk of methemoglobinemia is low. More details are available at the following links
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http://healthcare.utah.edu/pharmacy/alerts/147.htm
 
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Did anyone know they used bezocaine as a topical anaesthetic for ECMO patients ( and intubation)? Is this true?
 
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I would disagree re: "The majority of deaths are in SE corner" (post #26) I would say the majority of the deaths occurred in the southern half of the state. http://doh.sd.gov/Flu/PDF/Week46.pdf

Although SD State University is located near the SE corner (Brookings}, they have only reported a small number of cases in comparison to the rest of the country's campuses. http://www.acha.org/ILI_LatestWeek.cfm#chart_state
 
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http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/in_the_news.htm

009 H1N1 and Seasonal Influenza Infections and Invasive Pneumococcal Disease
November 24, 2009 6:00 PM ET

Some of CDC's Active Bacterial Core surveillance (ABCs) sites have seen an increase in serious cases of pneumococcal disease coincident with increases in influenza-associated hospitalizations. CDC has been working with state and local public health officials in Colorado for example concerning its ABCs site in the Denver Metro area to collect additional data on pneumococcal disease cases.

There is good evidence that 2009 H1N1 influenza may be responsible for this increase in invasive pneumococcal disease (IPD) cases in the Denver Metro area. (5-year average number of cases in October, ~20; total number in October 2009, 58).

The increase in IPD cases in the Denver Metro area is primarily among younger adults with 36 out of 58 (62%) cases occurred among 20-59 year olds. In a typical non-pandemic year, most IPD cases occur among persons 65 years of age and older.

What occurred in Denver is likely an indicator of what is happening in other parts of the country. Data shown below is preliminary and subject to change upon further investigation.

For more information on preventing pneumococcal infections secondary to seasonal and 2009 H1N1 influenza: http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/public/public_pneumococcal.htm.

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When the data becomes available (or someone finds it), a correlation may be found between the high death rates observed and the rates of bacterial co-infection (pneumonia) with pneumococcus, MRSA, and/or Strep A, all 3 of which are the most commonly seen with this new virus so far ( per associates at John Hopkins and elsewhere).

(Also, you may wish update your lists to include Oregon as it looks to have quite probably the highest death rate on west coast, still waiting for today's update.):(
 
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With the latest deaths reported in Montana, the total is 17 for a death rate of 17.6, putting it 5th behind Arizona. Montana, South Dakota and Wyoming are contiguous to one another and are all in the top five for population-based death rates.

I'm still waiting on Week 46 data from South Dakota and Wyoming.
 
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The highest fatality rates are among Hispanics and Pacific Islanders in Alaska according to Alaska Denise. Well that would jibe with lower availability of vitamin D. As for native American populations that number would be very hard to track. How many of us have at least a small amount of indigenous blood? You would have to do a very large DNA sampling to find out that statistic. Sounds like a valuable research paper.
 
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If looking at contiguous states of South Dakota, Wyoming and Montana then one has to ask why are the rates for Nebraska and North Dakota so low in comparison?
 
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I'll throw out an idea, dont have enough info to determine the actual residential location of the victims- but those states probably have some of the lowest population densities, and this may relate to distance to healthcare facilities,and the likelyhood that individuals will wait longer to seek medical treatment, and thus be sicker when finally reaching the doctor or hospital. In my own experience, the more rural (and thus, more self reliant in general) the population, the less likely they are to seek medical treatment early in a disease.
 
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Shannon said:
The highest fatality rates are among Hispanics and Pacific Islanders in Alaska according to Alaska Denise. Well that would jibe with lower availability of vitamin D. As for native American populations that number would be very hard to track. How many of us have at least a small amount of indigenous blood? You would have to do a very large DNA sampling to find out that statistic. Sounds like a valuable research paper.
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I didn't explain the situation well.

The highest rates/100,000 are among AI/AN (American Indian/AlaskaNative and A/PI (Asian/Pacific Islander). There are no stats for Hispanics because there are so few in Alaska. Blacks (even less Vit D) have lower rates than AI/AN and A/PI. The lowest rate/100,000 is for Whites. The actual DHSS says "the race-specific hospitalization rates were highest for AI/AN and A/PI persons, particularly those aged <25 years."

Blacks had 100% underlying conditions (only 4 cases), A/PI - 89%, AI/AN - 73%, whites - 63%. So underlying conditions don't have the same ranking as attack rate.

Based on my personal observations, obesity is directly related to those rates.

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kiwibird said:
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Are people who have no medical insurance more likely to take over the counter pharmaceuticals like cepacol? which has benzocaine?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benzocaine
http://www.drugs.com/cdi/benzocaine-lozenges.html
http://healthcare.utah.edu/pharmacy/alerts/147.htm
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Do they still use benzocaine as a topical anaesthetic for ECMO patients ( and intubation)? https://www.ctvnews.ca/health-canada-issues-warning-about-benzocaine-1.633352
 
I would like to make clear that this is a post and question from 2009 and I wonder if it is still used/relevant. Original posts are on page 2 of this thread.
 
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