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Second Death from Swine Flu in NYC (5:24 p.m.)

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NEW YORK (AP) - A woman in her 50s is New York City's second confirmed death linked to swine flu.
A spokeswoman for the city's Department of Health and Mental Hygiene says the woman died over the weekend and had underlying health conditions.
Assistant public school principal Mitchell Wiener (WEE'-ner) became the city's first death from the virus a week ago.
The city's first outbreak of swine flu occurred about a month ago, when more than 1,000 teenagers at a Catholic high school in Queens began falling ill following the return of several students from vacations in Mexico, the epicenter of the outbreak. :tiphat:http://www.wtvr.com/Global/story.asp?S=10416846

 
Another swine-flu linked death in NYC

Another swine-flu linked death in NYC

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local&id=6829626

Another swine-flu linked death in NYC

Sunday, May 24, 2009 | 5:32 PM



NEW YORK -- A woman in her 50s is New York City's second confirmed death linked to swine flu.

A spokeswoman for the city's Department of Health and Mental Hygiene says that the woman died over the weekend and had underlying health conditions.

Spokeswoman Jessica Scaperotti says people with chronic health conditions such as diabetes and compromised immune systems should seek medical advice.

She says there are 280 confirmed cases of swine flu in the city.
 
Re: Another swine-flu linked death in NYC

Re: Another swine-flu linked death in NYC

Note the increase in the number of hospitalizations...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/25/nyregion/25swine.html

2nd Death in New York City Linked to Swine Flu
Published: May 24, 2009
A second New York City resident, a woman from Queens in her 50s, has died from swine flu, the city?s health department said on Sunday.

Like the first New Yorker to die of the virus, an assistant principal at a Queens middle school, the woman had an underlying health condition that made her more at risk from the disease, Jessica Scaperotti, a health department spokeswoman, said.

Ms. Scaperotti declined to reveal any further details of the case, including the hospital where the woman had been treated. But she said that the woman died sometime over the past two days and that testing had confirmed that the woman had the H1N1 virus.

The number of people hospitalized with swine flu since the beginning of the outbreak in New York City at the end of April had risen to 94 on Sunday from 68 Saturday and 57 on Friday, health department officials said, suggesting that the rate of infection and hospitalization might be increasing.

Ms. Scaperotti could not say how many of those patients were currently hospitalized or how many were in critical condition. On Friday, St. Luke's-Roosevelt Hospital Center said it had a patient in critical condition with swine flu at its location in Morningside Heights.

?As we see more cases in the community we are going to see more severe illness and possibly death,? Ms. Scaperotti said. ?If you?re sick right now with flu, you probably have H1N1.?

On Sunday, health officials continued to stress that anyone with underlying health conditions ? like diabetes, asthma, emphysema or a compromised immune system ? who is exposed to flu should seek medical attention.

Ms. Scaperotti said the latest school to announce it was closing because of swine flu, a yeshiva school in Brooklyn, had made the decision on its own, without seeking a recommendation from the health department. She said that was the prerogative of private schools.
 
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Re: Another swine-flu linked death in NYC

http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local...nfirmed_swine_flu_death_in_new_york_city.html

Queens woman becomes second confirmed swine flu death in NYC

BY Helen Kennedy
DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITER

Sunday, May 24th 2009, 8:26 PM
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The city's health department would only describe the victim as a Queens woman in her 50s who had an underlying health condition. She died sometime over the past few days and tested positive for H1N1 virus, officials said.

Health Department spokeswoman Jessica Scaperotti and other officials refused to say anything else, declining to reveal what hospital she died in, where she worked or might have been exposed - or even if she was married or had children.

The woman is the nation's 11th death, out of 6,552 confirmed cases of the virus that is sweeping the globe.

Last week, Queens assistant principal Mitchell Wiener became the city's first death from the swine flu.

Scaperotti said 94 New Yorkers have been hospitalized with the swine flu.

There are 280 confirmed cases in the city, but that number does not reflect the thousands of people with mild cases who have not been tested for the new virus.

"If you are sick right now with the flu, it's likely you have the H1N1 virus," Scaperotti said. :rolleyes:

"At this point, I don't know anybody who doesn't know someone who's gotten sick in the past few weeks - at least among people with kids," said Queens councilman Eric Gioia.


"We're anxious to learn the details of this latest death."

He continued to press City Hall to release more information on how decisions to close schools are being made.

Officials say the new flu is usually mild, but can be dangerous and even lethal for people who already have chronic illnesses like asthma, diabetes or emphysema, and for those whose immune systems are weakened for reasons ranging from disease to pregnancy.

Scaperotti said the city recommends that doctors prescribe anti-flu drugs like Relenza and Tamiflu over the phone to patients with underlying health conditions who have flu symptoms "so only people with more severe symptoms go to the emergency room."

Severe symptoms like difficulty breathing should send a person to the hospital immediately, she said.

Twenty schools around the city, mostly in Queens, that were closed because of the flu are set to reopen tomorrow.

Seventeen others will reopen later in the week.

The Department of Education says there are no plans to extend the school year beyond June 26 and the city is asking for a waiver of a state law that cuts funding to schools that fail to provide 180 days of instruction.

The World Health Organization's global tally now stands at 12,022 cases in 44 countries. More than half are in the United States, where testing has been most rigorous.

There have been 86 deaths, 75 of them in Mexico.

Federal health officials say they expect to have cooked up a preliminary test vaccine by next week.

hkennedy@nydailynews.com

With Erin Einhorn and Alison Gendar

Read more: "Queens woman becomes second confirmed swine flu death in NYC" - http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local...u_death_in_new_york_city.html#ixzz0GTaqS6Bf&A
 
Re: Another swine-flu linked death in NYC

Re: Another swine-flu linked death in NYC

11...26.... let's hope it stops there.

Note the increase in the number of hospitalizations...

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/25/nyregion/25swine.html



The number of people hospitalized with swine flu since the beginning of the outbreak in New York City at the end of April had risen to 94 on Sunday from 68 Saturday and 57 on Friday, health department officials said, suggesting that the rate of infection and hospitalization might be increasing.
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Re: Another swine-flu linked death in NYC

Re: Another swine-flu linked death in NYC

11...26.... let's hope it stops there.
Why would it stop? Infections are exploding in NYC and the number is kept under control by limited testing.

In the US the ratio of swine H1N1 to seasonal influenza A has gone from 1:1 to 3:1 to 5:1 in the three recent CDC updates and by now it is probably higher than 10:1. The virus has an avian PB2, so it grows well in the HEAT.

The virus cares little about hopes and dreams (and only reads the NY press releases for comic relief).
 
Re: Another swine-flu linked death in NYC

Re: Another swine-flu linked death in NYC

we can always hope... :) But I agree, it doesn't appear to be slowing down.


Why would it stop? Infections are exploding in NYC and the number is kept under control by limited testing.

In the US the ratio of swine H1N1 to seasonal influenza A has gone from 1:1 to 3:1 to 5:1 in the three recent CDC updates and by now it is probably higher than 10:1. The virus has an avian PB2, so it grows well in the HEAT.

The virus cares little about hopes and dreams (and only reads the NY press releases for comic relief).
 
Re: Second Death from Swine Flu in NYC (5:24 p.m.)

New Health Alert from NYC Dept. of Health stressing the need to treat those with underlying conditions ASAP if they present with Influenza-like Illness.

2009 New York City Department of Health and Mental Hygiene
Health Alert #20: Novel H1N1 Influenza Update
May 24, 2009

Please distribute to staff in the Departments of Critical Care, Emergency Medicine, Family Practice, Geriatrics, Internal Medicine, Infectious Disease, Infection Control, Pediatrics, Pharmacy, Neonatal Units, Obstetrics and Gynecology, Pulmonary Medicine and Laboratory Medicine

Novel H1N1 influenza is now widespread in New York City. As expected, since there are more persons infected, hospitalized and critically ill cases are also increasing. Patients presenting with influenza-like illness in New York City health care facilities at this time can be presumed to have novel H1N1 infection, as we are seeing very little seasonal influenza A H3N2. Because it is not possible to prevent community transmission of influenza and mild illness at this time, the Health Department is focusing its efforts on reducing and preventing severe outcomes due to infection with novel H1N1 influenza.

Dear Colleague,
In the context of the novel H1N1 influenza outbreak in New York City, the Health Department has developed the attached one page algorithms to assist providers in emergency department and outpatient settings with managing patients with influenza-like illness or severe acute febrile respiratory illness. We hope they are useful for you. Please see our website at www.nyc.gov/health for detailed and frequently updated information on the epidemiology of the outbreak, as well as guidance on reporting, testing,
infection control and clinical management of suspected cases of novel H1N1 influenza, including treatment and prophylaxis recommendations.

In addition we would like to stress the following points:

? At this time, although seasonal influenza is continuing to circulate, all patients with influenza-like illness (ILI=documented fever 100.4 (38 C) with cough or sore throat) or with otherwise unexplained, acute febrile respiratory illness (fever with ILI, pneumonia, ARDS or respiratory distress) in New York City can be presumed to have novel H1N1 influenza unless proven
otherwise since this is the predominant strain of influenza currently circulating in the city.


? Providers should ensure that all people who are below 2 or above 65 years of age, or have asthma, diabetes, emphysema, or other chronic illnesses (see list below) are treated with antiviral medication if they get influenza-like illness. See Treatment and Prophylaxis recommendations on our website
for details.

? Asthma is the most common chronic illness among children in New York City, and children with sthma are at higher risk for severe illness if they get influenza.

? In particular providers should make sure that patients with asthma who have flu-like illness, even if it is mild, are treated with antiviral medication (Tamiflu? is recommended, as Relenza? is contraindicated in persons with chronic respiratory disease, such as asthma or COPD).

? Antiviral treatment should be started as soon as possible, ideally within 48 hours after the person first develops symptoms.

? Providers should advise people with mild flu NOT to go to the emergency department.
o Office visits may not be necessary for patients with mild ILI.
o Providers can prescribe antiviral medications over the phone for their patients with mild illness, when indicated.
o Only people with more serious symptoms, such as difficulty breathing, shortness of breath, severe chest or abdominal pain, dizziness or confusion, should go to the emergency department.

? Providers should consider prescribing antiviral prophylaxis for persons who:
o Have an underlying condition listed below, and
o Have household or other close contact with a person with influenza-like illness during that person?s infectious period (one day before to 7 days after symptom onset).

? Children and staff from schools that have been closed due to high or increasing levels of influenzalike illness may be considered to have possibly had exposure to persons with ILI. Such individuals should also be considered for prophylaxis if they have underlying conditions (listed below).

As always, we greatly appreciate your collaboration and cooperation in addressing this outbreak. We will continue to update you with new information as it becomes available,
Sincerely,
The DOHMH Novel H1N1 Investigation Team

Underlying conditions that increase the risk for severe influenza:
Age > 65 years
Age < 2 years
Chronic pulmonary disease, such as asthma or COPD
Chronic cardiovascular, renal, or hepatic disease
Hematologic disease, such as sickle cell anemia
Metabolic disorders, such as diabetes
Immunosuppression, including HIV-related or caused by medication
Compromised respiratory function and conditions which increase the risk for aspiration
Persons with neuromuscular disorders, seizure disorders, or cognitive dysfunction that may compromise the handling of respiratory secretions
Pregnancy
Persons requiring long-term aspirin therapy for diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis or Kawasaki disease


--------------------------------------------------

Emergency Department Algorithm for Treatment -
http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/downloads/pdf/cd/cd-h1n1-ed-algorithm.pdf

Outpatient Setting Algorithm for Treatment
http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/downloads/pdf/cd/cd-h1n1-outpatient-algorithm.pdf
 
Influenza: don't test, don't tell

Influenza: don't test, don't tell

That algorithm is the same one recommended by the US Government (CDC).

Doctors are specifically directed NOT to report flu which they have diagnosed, even if the patient has "underlying conditions". Flu is only reported when patients are hospitalized.
 
Re: Second Death from Swine Flu in NYC (5:24 p.m.)

Interesting. Do they intend to advertise the list of pre-disposing conditions to the public so that vulnerable individuals ignore the other public message to stay away from hospitals if flu symptoms are initially mild? How else will vulnerable individuals get antivirals early enough?

This issue is another example of the achilles heel in public pandemic response. Even if enough antivirals are available, and even if they work, when the pandemic gets well underway, there will be no way to distribute the medication. The only antivirals most individuals will see will be those that they have stockpiled themselves.
 
Re: Influenza: don't test, don't tell

Re: Influenza: don't test, don't tell

That algorithm is the same one recommended by the US Government (CDC).

Doctors are specifically directed NOT to report flu which they have diagnosed, even if the patient has "underlying conditions". Flu is only reported when patients are hospitalized.

After looking at the CDC website, I don't find these same treatment recommendations, except for pregnant women. What they are recommending in NYC is different, in that they want clinicians to prescribe antivirals OVER THE PHONE for any patient with those underlying conditions - a very broad list - who has a fever >100.4 & respiratory symptoms. That is a significant broadening of the CDC recommendations and, I think, an acknowledgement that novel H1N1 is a very big problem in NYC.
 
NY is following CDC recommendations

NY is following CDC recommendations

The CDC recommendations are at CDC Antiviral Treatment Recommendations

The NY health authorities are following them closely. They say that all hospitalized patients and patients in specific high-risk categories should receive antiviral medicines. The decision for other patients is based on clinical judgment.

[Antiviral] Treatment is recommended for:

  1. All hospitalized patients with confirmed, probable or suspected novel influenza (H1N1).
  2. Patients who are at higher risk for seasonal influenza complications. [See below]
If a patient is not in a high-risk group or is not hospitalized, healthcare providers should use clinical judgment to guide treatment decisions

High-risk groups: A person who is at high-risk for complications of novel influenza (H1N1) virus infection is defined as the same for seasonal influenza at this time. As more epidemiologic and clinical data become available, these risk groups might be revised.

  • Children younger than 5 years old. The risk for severe complications from seasonal influenza is highest among children younger than 2 years old.
  • Adults 65 years of age and older.
  • Persons with the following conditions:
  • Chronic pulmonary (including asthma), cardiovascular (except hypertension), renal, hepatic, hematological (including sickle cell disease), neurologic, neuromuscular, or metabolic disorders (including diabetes mellitus);
  • Immunosuppression, including that caused by medications or by HIV;
  • Pregnant women;
  • Persons younger than 19 years of age who are receiving long-term aspirin therapy;
  • Residents of nursing homes and other chronic-care facilities.
 
Re: NY is following CDC recommendations

Re: NY is following CDC recommendations

The CDC recommendations are at CDC Antiviral Treatment Recommendations

The NY health authorities are following them closely. They say that all hospitalized patients and patients in specific high-risk categories should receive antiviral medicines. The decision for other patients is based on clinical judgment.

All I'm saying is that the NYC recommendations are broader than the CDC ones because the virus is so widespread in NYC and seems to be not-so-mild for people in those categories (which cover probably about half the population of NYC). For example, picture a mother with an asthmatic child who pops a fever and has a sore throat. She calls her doctor and NYC Health is recommending that the doctor automatically treat that child as a suspected case of H1N1 and to prescribe Tamiflu over the phone. They are really saying, don't use your clinical judgement, just treat. I don't believe that they are recommending this anywhere else in the U.S.

This also may be because the health care facilities (including doctor's offices) in NYC are being overwhelmed by people getting their symptoms checked.
 
Re: Second Death from Swine Flu in NYC (5:24 p.m.)

picture a mother with an asthmatic child who pops a fever and has a sore throat. She calls her doctor and NYC Health is recommending that the doctor automatically treat that child as a suspected case of H1N1 and to prescribe Tamiflu over the phone

Right, and except for the phone part, that's the way it is supposed to be everywhere in the US. If a child has asthma, and develops a fever and sore throat, unless the doctor can see the child immediately, they should give the prescription for TamiFlu. The medicine works best in the first 48 hours of the flu, so waiting a couple of days for an appointment could be a disaster.

A medical system which makes people with infections wait days to see a doctor is ridiculous in the first place. I have mostly abandoned the "normal" medical system of having a single doctor and scheduling appointments. My doctor grew too busy, so it took days to see him, and he never remembered me anyway. Also, my doctor is 9-5 on weekdays and I travel a lot. So I usually go to an urgent care clinic where I can see a doctor within a hour. My insurance company pays for it like a regular doctor visit -- I pay the same co-pay. Otherwise I'd go to a clinic and just take whatever doctor was available.

People get scolded by the authorities for going to emergency rooms, but that's partly because the regular medical system has failed them.
 
Re: Second Death from Swine Flu in NYC (5:24 p.m.)

#6 -...- #8 -...- #14

I agree.

Because it not stops,

and because all people included in the "underlaying conditions" (plus some other also) must take the antivirals, says now the meds,

this virus cannot be only mild.

When an seasonal flu strain is considerated mild, many with the "underlaying conditions" still did not take a seasonal flu vaccine, and mostly did not take antivirals - and survive without hospitalizations, vents, etc.

It seems that if no antivirals could be automaticaly used in real time, the outcome of this virus when it would reach big human numbers of infections, could result much more worst than this early "mild" projection.

Otherwise it would not be neccessary to take the antivirals, as it was suggested.
 
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