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Obama Warns of Swine Flu Resurgence in Fall

Re: Obama Warns of Swine Flu Resurgence in Fall

I'm hearing the same thing from many people - either they don't keep up on news and are in the dark, or they think it's a big con to increase big pharma profits. They are absolutely convinced that a 1918-level pandemic cannot happen today. :rolleyes:

There was a recent FT thread saying we needed a spokesman. I suggested the Queen of England, but I'll settle for Obama as a momentary spokesman bringing attention to the issue. :D

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It was admitted at the conference that recently the outbreak had been underplayed so as of now a campaign to educate the public about the real potential danger is supposed to begin.

http://sharing.govdelivery.com/bulletins/GD/USHHS-7EFCE

“Over the course of coming weeks and months, we will move aggressively to prepare the nation for the possibility of a more severe outbreak of the H1N1 virus,” said HHS Secretary Sebelius. “We ask the American people to become actively engaged with their own preparation and prevention. It’s a responsibility we all share.”

“The federal government is working together with its federal, state, local and tribal partners to develop a nation-wide plan to combat the H1N1 flu that incorporates the lessons we learned this spring,” said Homeland Security Secretary Napolitano. “The H1N1 Summit will allow us to continue this aggressive preparation for all possible H1N1 virus outbreak scenarios to ensure that we are doing everything possible to keep our country safe and healthy.”

“Effectively dealing with a potential H1N1 outbreak requires all of us -- parents, educators, health providers, and local, state and federal governments -- working together on our emergency management plan,” said Education Secretary Duncan. “Today’s Flu Summit is an important step in that direction. Our primary goals at the Department of Education are the health and well being of students, faculty and staff, and ensuring that, in the event of any school closures, the learning process will continue. ”

And the new http://www.flu.gov/ is supposed to be used as the primary website for the campaign and given as much publicity as possible.
 
Re: Obama Warns of Swine Flu Resurgence in Fall

... I'll settle for Obama as a momentary spokesman bringing attention to the issue. :D

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Well, we got to see him kill the fly for 2 days; so I doubt that it will be "momentary"; and I'm convinced we will see him bringing attention to the issue.
 
Re: Obama Warns of Swine Flu Resurgence in Fall

I'm hearing the same thing from many people - either they don't keep up on news and are in the dark, or they think it's a big con to increase big pharma profits. They are absolutely convinced that a 1918-level pandemic cannot happen today. :rolleyes:

There was a recent FT thread saying we needed a spokesman. I suggested the Queen of England, but I'll settle for Obama as a momentary spokesman bringing attention to the issue. :D

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Better than E. F. Hutton.
 
Re: Obama Warns of Swine Flu Resurgence in Fall

what I want to figure out is, whether they may have
additional, secret information to come to these conclusions.
Not yet published studies, seqences from Argentina or such

Do we see evidence for this ?


or is it just because he wants to "sell" the vaccination campaign,
trying to make people more willing to accept vaccination
1918 was obvious as soon as swine H1N1 passing efficiently H2H and killing relatively young adults was disclosed months ago - no "secret" information required.
 
Re: Obama Warns of Swine Flu Resurgence in Fall

what I want to figure out is, whether they may have
additional, secret information to come to these conclusions.
Not yet published studies, seqences from Argentina or such

Do we see evidence for this ?

or is it just because he wants to "sell" the vaccination campaign,
trying to make people more willing to accept vaccination
This is what makes life so interesting at the top. You're damned if you warn people and nothing happens, and damned if you don't warn them and it does.

I personally think the press conference was a refreshing change of attitude. Whether they know more than they're telling is quite possible, but at least they aren't trotting out the old "Don't worry, everything's fine" routine any more.

There are still lots of people who think it's all a ploy to make money for the vaccine manufacturers. Fortunately, some of them are also prepared for possible disaster, even if they don't think this one is it. It's the rest of the typically apathetic public I worry most about, and this kind of talk may stir some of them into action. At the very least, it gives those of us who are preaching preparedness some ground to stand on.
 
Re: Obama Warns of Swine Flu Resurgence in Fall

I try to promote the idea of general emergency preparedness. Having extra groceries, critical supplies, a small stash of OTC meds, some case, etc., in the event of any number of emergencies. Most people find that a realistic expectation. But then, I live where earthquakes, heavy snows, volcanoes, etc. can all change life on a moments notice.

If movies, sitcoms, soaps, singers, etc. worked preparedness into their story lines it would "popularize" the concept.

What might work faster would be to have schoolkids do preparedness projects. Perhaps that message could go along with the vaccination information.

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Re: Obama Warns of Swine Flu Resurgence in Fall

I try to promote the idea of general emergency preparedness. Having extra groceries, critical supplies, a small stash of OTC meds, some case, etc., in the event of any number of emergencies. Most people find that a realistic expectation. But then, I live where earthquakes, heavy snows, volcanoes, etc. can all change life on a moments notice.

If movies, sitcoms, soaps, singers, etc. worked preparedness into their story lines it would "popularize" the concept.

What might work faster would be to have schoolkids do preparedness projects.
Perhaps that message could go along with the vaccination information.

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Great ideas AD. If preparedness awareness and practice could be incorporated into normal day to day life, the country would be in a better position to meet a challenge.
 
Re: Obama Warns of Swine Flu Resurgence in Fall

Originally Posted by gsgs View Post
what I want to figure out is, whether they may have
additional, secret information to come to these conclusions.
Not yet published studies, seqences from Argentina or such

Do we see evidence for this ?

or is it just because he wants to "sell" the vaccination campaign,
trying to make people more willing to accept vaccination


The Government uses a modeling program called SEAS (Synthetic Environment for Analysis and Simulations). The program incorporates curent events, census data, economic data, infrastructure, and climactic events in the real world, along with proprietary information such as military intelligence.

Since you can't predict the future, you work around it by scenario building and modeling. I guess they knowing something we don't.

http://www.simulexinc.com/products/technology/#seas
 
Re: Obama Warns of Swine Flu Resurgence in Fall

Thanks him for this high level awareness.
This release means that there were mention about the flu at G8.

As tyto said, obviously there were high ranked informations to drove such public release.
 
Re: Obama Warns of Swine Flu Resurgence in Fall

Thanks him for this high level awareness.
This release means that there were mention about the flu at G8.

As tyto said, obviously there were high ranked informations to drove such public release.
The upcoming problems have been obvious for months. No secret info required.
 
Re: Obama Warns of Swine Flu Resurgence in Fall

The upcoming problems have been obvious for months. No secret info required.
Obvious to exist, and to the med estabs and flu blogs, not obvious to the masses ...
(how much percent of citizens realy thinking about any dreadful pandemic to come).

So, when you said "secret", it was mediatic simulated an peace of cake of virus, not an potential dreaded one.
He make a statement, the chi. make an recent about imminent virus changing (FT post), but many other presidents didn't make such statement, even if this coming scenario is note to all of them.

Taking the stand to officialy publicize to the citizens the probably next autumn insurgence of deadly mutations, by an president, is an new moment, compared to the WHO/health estabs awareness, because the vast majority of people realy take in care more politics releases, and TV media, than health and internet blogs one.
 
Re: Obama Warns of Swine Flu Resurgence in Fall

You might be interested in this study, from Japan, that found Oseltamivir in aquatic environments: http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0006064.

snip: Recent publications have shown that the active metabolite, oseltamivir carboxylate (OC), is not degraded in sewage treatment plants and is also persistent in aquatic environments.

Bad (I think they found this problem in the past, after bf appearance), but it will be another chem between thousends already present in the environment because of "economy" reasons.

If, instead of allow or tolerate sewage flushes NOT bio-chemicaly filtered (not only by plants, or mechanical) before their release into waters, the countries constricted the polluters to close or change and install such depurators, this and many other pollution related problems, will vanished (apart the damage already done by 200 years of pollution).
 
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