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Mexico Confirms 16 Deaths Due to Swine Flu - 60 Others Being Investigated

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WHO says it is worried about suspicious flu activity, sending help to Mexico


TORONTO — The World Health Organization says it is very concerned about mounting evidence of suspicious influenza activity in Mexico and the southwestern part of the United States.

Mexico's health minister has confirmed that some of the cases of illness there were caused by a swine flu virus that is responsible for at least seven human cases in the United States.

A WHO spokesperson says the emergency committee of experts that would determine whether to raise the global pandemic alert level has been informed WHO may call them into action

Gregory Hartl says the WHO is sending staff to Mexico to help in the investigations and try to get a better picture of what is going on.

Hartl says the WHO is extremely concerned because there is evidence of what looks like a novel flu virus spreading in five places - the two U.S. states and three parts of Mexico.

He says WHO is in continuous contact with the governments of the United States, Canada and Mexico.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5g53QvII5VCOl3YBgS4czWlyxl2Ag
 
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Re: Swine flu kills 60 in Mexico, moves to US: WHO

Canada and the CDC have the proof. They just haven't released it. Same is true for additional cases in the US.

This looks to be very transmissible. What happens if inadvertently it should be brought to say, Egypt or Indonesia by a traveler? Just wondering...
 
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> WASHINGTON (AFP) ? US medical authorities expressed strong concern Friday
> about an unprecedented multi-strain swine flu outbreak that has killed at least 60 people
> in Mexico and infected seven people in the United States.

AFP can't be trusted

> "This is the first time that we've seen an avian strain, two swine strains and a human strain,"
> said Daigle, adding that the virus had influenza strains from European and Asian swine,
> but not from North American swine.

so, from where is HA then ?

> Referring to "swine flu cases that have broken out in the United States in Mexico,"
> WHO spokeswoman Fadela Chaib

so, what exactly did she say ?

> but caused by the H1N1 strain
 
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Confirma SSA, 16 muertes por la gripe porcina

El titular de la dependencia, Jos? ?ngel C?rdova, se?al? que al menos 60 personas se encuentran en investigaci?n.



Ciudad de M?xico.- .-El secretario de Salud Federal, Jos? ?ngel C?rdova inform? que el virus de la influenza ha dejado 16 personas muertas ya confirmados y 60 en investigaci?n.
En entrevista para Milenio noticias el funcionario dijo que el virus ? que en a?os anteriores hab?an sido casos aislados- se adquiere por contacto f?cilmente y la peligrosidad es menos que la de gripe aviar.
Dijo adem?s que este virus nada tiene que ver con la carne de puerco ni con tener animales en casa.
El secretario de Salud inform? que se aplicaron 19 millones de vacunas en los meses de octubre noviembre y diciembre del a?o pasado.
Referente a los estados dijo que como los casos son aislados no se tomaron medidas m?s agresivas.
C?rdova Villalobos mencion? que para las personas que vienen del exterior se las dar? la informaci?n pertinente en aeropuertos y centrales de autobuses as? como revisi?n m?dica.
Anunci? adem?s que ser? en el transcurso del d?a cuando se den las indicaciones para el fin de semana.


http://www.milenio.com/node/204265
 
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English version of post #24 above -

SSA confirmed 16 deaths from the swine flu

The head of the agency, José Ángel Córdova, said that at least 60 people are under investigation.



Mexico City .- .- The Federal Health Secretary Jose Angel Cordova reported that influenza virus has left 16 people already confirmed dead and 60 in research.
Millennium News in an interview for the official said that the virus - which in previous years had been isolated were purchased easily and is less dangerous than the bird flu.
He also said that this virus has nothing to do with pork or having pets at home.
The Secretary of Health reported that 19 million vaccines used in the months of October, November and December last year.
Referring to statements said that the cases are isolated and were not taken more aggressive measures.
Cordova Villalobos said that for people who come from abroad are given the relevant information in airports and bus and medical examination.
He also announced that it will be the day when they give directions for the weekend.
 
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no link - via email -

Mexico Confirms 16 Deaths Tied to Flu Outbreak, Cordova Says
2009-04-24 15:20:15.753 GMT


By Andres R. Martinez
April 24 (Bloomberg) -- Mexico’s government has confirmed
16 people have died from swine flu and another 60 deaths are
being investigated for ties to the outbreak, Health Minister
Jose Cordova said in an interview on Milenio television.
The majority of reported cases have occurred in Mexico City
and nearby areas, he said.
 
Re: Mexico Confirms 16 Deaths Due to Swine Flu - 60 Others Being Investigated

> The unique strain of swine flu found in seven people in California in
> Texas has been connected to the deadly flu that has broken
> out in Mexico, killing as many as 60 people, NBC News has confirmed.

NBC News, can they be trusted



what confusion to expect in a real pandemic
 
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This should be in a WHO thread, but this thread seems to be the best choice.
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Swine flu outbreak raises pandemic fears

April 24, 2009 9:15 AM
PARIS - An outbreak of deadly swine flu in Mexico and the United States has raised the specter of a new virus against which much of humanity would have little or no immunity.


About 950 cases and 60 suspect deaths have been reported in Mexico, according to the World Health Organization (WHO). In the United States seven people have been infected.


The European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control said that the infection of humans with an influenza 'A' virus of animal origins is a concern "because of the risk, albeit small, that this could represent the appearance of viruses with pandemic potential."


First identified in 1930, swine flu is a common and sometimes fatal respiratory disease in pigs caused by type A influenza virus.


The disease does not normally spread to humans, though infections are sporadically recorded, especially among people who have been directly exposed to pigs.


The recent cases in Mexico and the United States, however, appear to have spread through human contact.


From December 2005 through February 2009, only 12 cases of swine influenza were reported in the United States. In 1988 a pregnant woman died after contact with sick pigs.


In 1976, swine flu at an U.S. military base at Fort Dix, New Jersey killed one soldier. Four were hospitalized with pneumonia. At first, experts feared the strain was related to the Spanish Flu of 1918, which killed millions, but the strain never spread beyond the base.


Swine and human H1N1 viruses are not the same, which means that seasonal flu vaccines for humans will not work against the animal variant.


The WHO has identified swine influenza as a potential source of human flu pandemics, which occur roughly every two or three decades. The last true pandemic — "Hong Kong flu" — occurred more than 40 years ago.


In the past, swine flu has rarely been fatal for humans. But scientists fear that a new virus mixing animals strains — from birds, pigs or both — with existing human strains could create a superbug that could sweep the globe and kill millions, as happened nearly a century ago.


Swine flu symptoms include fever, lethargy, lack of appetite and coughing. Some people who have contracted the virus report runny nose, sore throat, nausea, vomiting and diarrhea.


The disease is not transmitted by eating properly cooked pork, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Cooking to an internal temperature of 71 degrees Celsius (160 degrees Fahrenheit) kills swine virus, as it does other bacteria and viruses.


Worries about a flu pandemic have focused in recent years on the H5N1 strain of bird flu, which has killed around 250 people since 2003, mainly in Southeast Asia, according to the WHO.

http://www.vancouversun.com/news/Swine+outbreak+raises+pandemic+fears/1530743/story.html
 
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Swine Flu, Mexico Lung Illness Heighten Pandemic Risk (Update2)

By Jason Gale and Tom Randall

April 24 (Bloomberg) -- Disease trackers are asking U.S. hospitals to help follow a new strain of swine flu and are trying to determine whether it’s related to hundreds of illnesses and 57 deaths in Mexico.

A previously unseen variant of H1N1 swine influenza has sickened at least seven people in California and Texas, the Atlanta-based U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said yesterday. The World Health Organization said 57 people died among more than 800 in the Mexico City region who developed flu-like symptoms in the past month.

Global health experts are studying whether the U.S. and Mexico illnesses pose a threat of pandemic, according to the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control. U.S. hospitals today were asked to collect samples from patients with flu-like symptoms, said William Schaffner, a flu expert at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine in Nashville, Tennessee.

This has a sense of urgency about it,” Schaffner, chief of preventive medicine at Vanderbilt, said in a telephone interview today. “They are asking us who work in hospitals to go to our emergency rooms and our pediatric wards to gather specimens and start testing them.”

Investigators haven’t found a link between the California and Texas cases, indicating the virus may be circulating elsewhere, Schaffner said. CDC disease experts will continue investigating whether the outbreaks have a common source, he said. The agency also will host a conference call today with experts, he said.

Threat of Pandemic

Flu can spread quickly when a new strain emerges, because no one has natural immunity. The so-called 1918 Spanish Flu pandemic, which may have killed as many as 50 million people, began when an avian flu virus jumped to people, experts said.

“We are taking this very seriously,” Gregory Hartl, spokesman for WHO, the Geneva-based United Nations agency, said in a telephone interview today. “We have to get laboratory confirmation of what it is. We need to know how widespread it is.” The Mexico illnesses are affecting “otherwise healthy adults,” Hartl said.

Pandemic Potential

“The infection of humans with a novel influenza-A virus infection of animal origins, as has happened here, is of concern because of the risk, albeit small, that this could represent the appearance of viruses with pandemic potential,” the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control, based in Stockholm, said in a statement.

There’s no evidence a pandemic strain is evolving in the U.S., the European agency said. The CDC reached the same conclusion.

“We don’t think this is a time for major concern,” Anne Schuchat, CDC’s director of respiratory diseases, told reporters on a conference call yesterday.

Authorities in Mexico asked the Public Health Agency of Canada to help identify what’s causing the lung infection that has also spread to five health-care workers, the Ottawa-based agency said in an e-mail yesterday. Mexico Health Minister Jose Cordova canceled classes in Mexico City today and recommended citizens avoid public places.

Canada’s National Microbiology Lab received 51 specimens from Mexico on April 22 and will test them for pathogens. Tests in Mexico found patients had the H1N1 and type-B influenza strains and the parainfluenza virus, the agency said.

Pigs Susceptible

Three main human flu strains -- H3N2, H1N1 and type-B -- cause 250,000 to 500,000 deaths a year globally, according to the World Health Organization, a United Nations agency. Pigs also are susceptible to flu, including the H1N1 subtype.

“It will be critical to determine whether the strains of H1N1 isolated from patients in Mexico are also swine flu,” Donald Low, an infectious diseases specialist at Toronto’s Mount Sinai Hospital, told the Canadian Press.

The CDC is discussing its cases and viruses with Mexico and the Pan American Health Organization, Schuchat said.

At this point, we do not have any confirmation of swine influenza in Mexico,” Schuchat said.

Symptoms of the illnesses in Mexico include high fever, headache, eye pain, shortness of breath and extreme fatigue with rapid progression of symptoms to severe respiratory distress in about five days, the Canadian agency said. A “high proportion” of cases require mechanical respiration, it said.

U.S. Sickness

The four males and three females in San Diego County and Imperial County, California, and in San Antonio, diagnosed with swine flu had mild flu-like symptoms. The patients, 9 to 54 years old, included a father-daughter pair and two boys attending the same Texas school.

The virus is contagious and spreading from human to human, the CDC said in a statement on its Web site. The patients began feeling sick from March 28 to April 19. All have recovered and only one was hospitalized, according to the CDC. None had direct contact with pigs.

“That’s unusual,” Schuchat said. “We don’t know yet how widely it’s spreading and we certainly don’t know the extent of the problem.”

As precaution, CDC is preparing the virus as a vaccine seed strain that could be used to make immunizations, she said.

The swine flu virus contains four different gene segments representing both North American swine and avian influenza, human flu and a Eurasian swine flu, CDC said.

Not Seen Before

“We haven’t seen this strain before, but we haven’t been looking as intensively as we are these days,” Schuchat said. “It’s very possible that this is something new that hasn’t been happening before.”

Swine influenza is a respiratory disease of pigs caused by type-A influenza that regularly causes outbreaks among the animals, according to the CDC. Swine flu doesn’t normally infect people, though human infections do occur and cases of human-to- human spread of swine flu viruses have been documented.

Infection in pigs is regarded as especially problematic because of the risk of “reassortment” to produce a new virus, the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control said.

These mild U.S. cases infected with a novel influenza are not reflecting the emergence of a pandemic strain, but they at least raise the possibility that there has been limited human- to-human transmission,” the health agency said.

To contact the reporters on this story: Jason Gale in Singapore at j.gale@bloomberg.net; Tom Randall in New York at trandall6@bloomberg.net.

Last Updated: April 24, 2009 12:08 EDT
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601082&sid=ajqkJeGBOFsM&refer=canada#
 
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It has made it into uk news.







"This is the first time that we've seen an avian strain, two swine strains and a human strain," Dave Daigle, a spokesman for the CDC, told AFP.

The CDC said none of the seven victims had been in contact with pigs, which is how people usually catch swine flu.









http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/8016909.stm
 
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Anyone signed up for Microsoft Live MSNBC news alerts just got the message as a "pop up" on the bottom of their computer screens
 
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from Rocky's link...

Outbreaks in Mexico, U.S. tied to new swine flu
Source of unique virus a mystery; CDC expects more cases

updated 8:38 a.m. AKT, Fri., April 24, 2009
The unique strain of swine flu found in seven people in California and Texas has been connected to the deadly flu that has broken out in Mexico, killing as many as 60 people, NBC News has confirmed.

The strain has never been seen before and is raising fears of a possible pandemic across North America.

The World Health Organization said it was concerned at what it called hundreds of "influenza-like" cases in Mexico, and also about the confirmed outbreak of the new strain of swine flu in the United States.

Mexico canceled classes for millions of children in its sprawling capital city and surrounding area on Friday after authorities noticed a higher number of flu-like deaths than normal in recent weeks.

"It is a virus that mutated from pigs and then at some point was transmitted to humans," Health Minister Jose Angel Cordova told the Televisa network.

He said tests proved that 16 died from the new strain, and about 44 other suspected cases still being were still being tested. Mexico's Public Health Department put the total number of people sickened at around 943 nationwide.

Cordova described a chilling new strain that had killed only people among the normally less-vulnerable young and mid-adult age range. One possibility is that the most vulnerable segments of the population — infants and the aged — had been vaccinated against other strains, and that those vaccines may be providing some protection.

Dr. Anne Schuchat of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said "at this point, we do not have any confirmations of swine influenza in Mexico" of the kind that sickened those in California and Texas.

The White House is closely following the outbreak and President Barack Obama has been informed, an administration official said on Friday.

U.S. health experts said Thursday they expect to find more cases of the swine flu as they check people who had contact with the California and Texas patients. All of the seven U.S. victims recovered from the flu.

Growing mystery

The U.S. cases are a growing medical mystery because it's unclear how they caught the virus. The CDC said none of the seven people were in contact with pigs, which is how people usually catch swine flu. And only a few were in contact with each other.

Still, health officials said it's not a cause for public alarm: The five in California and two in Texas all recovered, only one person was hospitalized and testing indicates some mainstream antiviral medications seem to work against the virus.

Schuchat said officials believe it can spread human-to-human, which is unusual for a swine flu virus.

The CDC is checking people who have been in contact with the seven confirmed cases, who all became ill between late March and mid-April.

Because of intensive searching, it's likely health officials will find additional cases, said Schuchat, director of the CDC's National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases.

Worldwide, seasonal flu kills between 250,000 and 500,000 people in an average year.

Unique combination virus

CDC officials detected a virus with a unique combination of gene segments that have not been seen in people or pigs before. The bug contains human virus, avian virus from North America and pig viruses from North America, Europe and Asia.

Health officials have seen mixes of bird, pig and human virus before, but never such an intercontinental combination with more than one pig virus in the mix.

Scientists keep a close eye on flu viruses that emerge from pigs. The animals are considered particularly susceptible to both avian and human viruses and a likely place where the kind of genetic reassortment can take place that might lead to a new form of pandemic flu, said Dr. John Treanor, an infectious disease specialist at the University of Rochester Medical Center.

The virus may be something completely new, or it may have been around for a while but was only detected now because of improved lab testing and disease surveillance, CDC officials said.

The virus was first detected in two children in southern California — a 10-year-old boy in San Diego County and a 9-year-old girl in neighboring Imperial County.

The cases were detected under unusual circumstances. One was seen at a Navy clinic that participates in a specialized disease detection network, and the other was caught through a specialized surveillance system set up in border communities, CDC officials said.

On Thursday, investigators said they had discovered five more cases. That includes a father and his teenage daughter in San Diego County, a 41-year-old woman in Imperial County who was the only person hospitalized, and two 16-year-old boys who are friends and live in Guadalupe County, Texas, near San Antonio.

Puzzling cases

The Texas cases are especially puzzling. One of the California cases — the 10-year-old boy — traveled to Texas early this month, but that was to Dallas, about 270 miles northeast of San Antonio. He did not travel to the San Antonio area, Schuchat said.

The two 16-year-olds had not traveled recently, Texas health officials said.

The swine flu's symptoms are like those of the regular flu, mostly involving fever, cough and sore throat, though some of the seven also experienced vomiting and diarrhea.

CDC are not calling it an outbreak, a term that suggests ongoing illnesses. It's not known if anyone is getting sick from the virus right now, CDC officials said.

It's also not known if the seasonal flu vaccine that Americans got last fall and early this year protects against this type of virus. People should wash their hands and take other customary precautions, CDC officials said.

The Mexican government warned people not to shake hands or kiss when greeting or share food, glasses or cutlery for fear of contracting the flu.

Mexico City, one of the world's biggest cities and home to some 20 million people, was quieter than usual on Friday morning. Normally choking traffic was less chaotic in the absence of school buses and parents driving kids to school.

Many people waiting to enter subway stations had their faces covered with surgical masks.


URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/30386163/
 
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WHO convenes emergency meeting on swine flu outbreak


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People wear masks as they walk down a street in Mexico City April 24, 2009. A deadly strain of swine flu never seen before has broken out in Mexico, killing at least 16 people and raising fears it is spreading across North America. The World Health Organization said it was concerned about what it called 800 "influenza-like" cases in Mexico, and also about a confirmed outbreak of a new strain of swine flu in the United States.

Photograph by: Henry Romero, ReutersGENEVA — The World Health Organization said on Friday that it was convening an emergency committee to advise whether outbreaks of swine flu in the United States and Mexico constituted an international public health threat.

"WHO will convene, sometime in the very near future, an emergency committee under the International Health Regulations, which will consider whether or not this event constitutes a public health event of international concern," WHO spokesman Gregory Hartl told Reuters in Geneva.

Hartl also said that 12 of 18 samples taken from victims in Mexico showed the virus had a genetic structure identical to that of the virus found in California. But more epidemiological information was needed before any change to the WHO’s pandemic alert level, currently at ’3’ on a scale of 1 to 6.

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/convenes+emergency+meeting+swine+outbreak/1530815/story.html
 

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so at this point it seems that NBC claims to know more than CDC (and WHO)


but doesn't say how they achieved that knowledge
 
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Deadly Swine Flu Outbreak Linked to U.S.
Updated 12:21 PM CDT, Fri, Apr 24, 2009


A new strain of pig flu found in seven people in California and Texas is linked to the virus that has broken out in Mexico and killed as many as 60 people.


A strain of pig flu found in seven people in California and Texas is linked to the deadly bird flu that has killed as many as 60 people in Mexico -- sparking fear that the virus could start a pandemic across North America.

An outbreak of the new strain in the U.S. has been confirmed as hundreds of patients in Mexico report "influenza-like" symptoms, according to the World Health Organization.

"It is a virus that mutated from pigs and then at some point was transmitted to humans," Mexico's Health Minister Jose Angel Cordova told the Televisa network.

In Mexico, the virus killed the most vulnerable members of the population

http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/us_world/NATL-Deadly-Flu-Outbreak-Linked-to-US-.html
 
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(this article has a link to Niman's map:))
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WHO: Swine Flu Could Trigger Global Pandemic


Unheard of new strain is hybrid resulting from a combination of four different viruses

Steve Watson
Infowars.net [1]
Friday, April 24, 2009

The World Health Organization has warned that a new form of influenza that may have spread from Mexico into the U.S. could develop into a pandemic-type virus.

Hundreds of people in Mexico have been infected and 60 have died from suspected swine flu, while seven human cases have been confirmed in the United States, a World Health Organisation spokeswoman has said [2].

U.S. labs are still running tests on the Mexican strain of the virus, results of which will be released by the will be released later today by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta.

At this point it is not yet clear whether the two strains are the same. Some media reports have failed to make this clear, while the Drudge report [3] has jumped in head first declaring an “OUTBREAK” with a giant frothing red headline.

Five of the U.S. cases were recorded in California with a further two in Texas. The first two cases in Southern California appeared almost simultaneously, 100 miles apart, indicating that the virus can silently spread. Neither case was due to contact with swine, and family members had symptoms before and after the confirmed cases, indicating that the H1N1 swine flu is being efficiently transmitted human to human.

Most of the Mexican cases were found in healthy young adults with no known record of prior illness, according to reports.

Schools in Mexico City and the surrounding areas have been temporarily closed and people with flu symptoms have been advised to stay home from wor [4]k. The Mexican government has launched a huge vaccination campaign [5].

A constantly updated map of the cases swine flu can be viewed here [6].

The WHO has also pointed out that pigs have been implicated in the emergence of new influenza viruses responsible for two of the previous century’s influenza pandemics, including the 1918 pandemic strain which spread to nearly every part of the world killing an estimated 2.5 to 5% of the human population - somewhere in the region of 50 million to 100 million people.

The European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control has reiterated the WHO comments, writing on it’s website [8]:

“The infection of humans with a novel influenza A virus infection of animal origins as has happened here is of concern because of the risk, albeit small, that this could represent the appearance of viruses with pandemic potential.”

According to scientists at the CDC, genetic analysis indicates that the virus is “highly unusual”:

It is a hybrid that resulted from a combination of four different viruses — one that typically infects people, one that originated in North American birds and two from pigs in Europe and Asia,” Anne Schuchat, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases, told the Washington Post [9].

“The good news is all seven of these patients have recovered,” she said. The virus appears to be resistant to two drugs normally used to treat the flu, but two others appear to be effective against it.

This combination has not been recognized before in the U.S. or elsewhere,” Schuchat said.

Other scientists have warned that if a pig is simultaneously infected with a human and an avian influenza virus, it can serve as a “mixing vessel” for the two viruses that could combine to create a new more virulent strain.

Though this story has broken in the mainstream media today, authorities have been tracking it for some time. One week ago, the Public Health Agency of Canada contacted health and quarantine services [10] to inform them that Mexican health authorities had advised Canada to be on alert for possible infections.
http://www.prisonplanet.com/who-swine-flu-could-trigger-global-pandemic.html/print/
 
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so at this point it seems that NBC claims to know more than CDC (and WHO)


but doesn't say how they achieved that knowledge

I'd give it some credence. The major news media in the US occasionally get egg on their face over wrong facts, but more often, they have good sources. (They're more likely to make mistakes because they misread something, or they're simply not subject matter experts in every field, than deliberately invent something.)

I read a story recently (on MSNBC, as it happens) about what it means when a reporter says something like "unnamed Whitehouse sources" -- apparently, US presidents (both Obama and past presidents) routinely do lunch with high level reporters from the major news media. The prez and staff discuss issues that he wants the reporters to cover. Since this is "off the record" however, the reporters have a gentleman's agreement to simply cite "unnamed white house sources."

It's entirely possible that a top level reporter from NBC "did lunch" with someone from the CDC or another government agency and they HAVE their confirmation, and said government official wants the word to get out, they just can't cite a source, because it isn't official yet.

Amusing, the games they play sometimes ...

-- Leva
 
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(this article has a link to Niman's map:))
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WHO: Swine Flu Could Trigger Global Pandemic


Unheard of new strain is hybrid resulting from a combination of four different viruses

Steve Watson
Infowars.net [1]
Friday, April 24, 2009


A constantly updated map of the cases swine flu can be viewed here
.


[I could not access the link, am I doing something wrong? is this not the correct link? :banghead
 
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The hyperlink got lost in the process.....but it's now fixed. Sorry.

Actually, the original article has a list of interesting links at the end.

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