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Malaysian passenger plane crashes on Ukraine-Russia border

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International AIDS Society

STATEMENT ON MALAYSIAN FLIGHT MH 17

Friday, July 18, 2014

The International AIDS Society (IAS) today expresses its sincere sadness at receiving news that a number of colleagues and friends en route to attend the 20th International AIDS Conference taking place in Melbourne, Australia, were on board the Malaysian Airlines MH17 flight that has crashed over Ukraine earlier today.

At this incredibly sad and sensitive time the IAS stands with our international family and sends condolences to the loved ones of those who have been lost to this tragedy.

http://www.iasociety.org/
 
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'A kind man and a true humanitarian': Famous Dutch AIDS researcher Joep Lange on his way to Melbourne conference among the first reportedly dead in the Malaysian crash

BySally Lee
Published: 18:15 EST, 17 July 2014 | Updated: 18:48 EST, 17 July 2014
...
Joep Lange was en route to 20th International AIDS Conference, AIDS2014, which was to be held in Melbourne from July 20 to 25.

Dr Lange was one of several European researchers believed to be on the flight and heading to the Melbourne conference.

Organisers for AIDS2014 have not returned calls seeking confirmation.

But friends and colleagues of Dr Lange, who is believed to be a father to five girls, have taken to social media to express condolence messages.
...
Yvette Fleming, manager of Stop Aids Now, tweeted there were other colleagues on board the flight with Dr Lange.

'In shock! Lucie van Mens, Martine de Schutter, Pim de Kuijer, Joep Lange and Jacqueline van Tongeren never arrived in Melbourne!' she wrote.
...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...an-flight-crash-way-conference-Melbourne.html
 
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Melbourne-bound AIDS 2014 delegates among those on MH17 flight

Elias Jahshan? July 18, 2014

REPORTS have emerged that among the passengers aboard the downed Malaysian Airlines MH17 flight in Ukraine were delegates, researchers and advocates bound for the AIDS 2014 conference in Melbourne.
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Since the news broke, there has been a flurry of conflicting reports ? mostly on social media ? that up to 108 of those on board the flight were bound for Melbourne, via Kuala Lumpur, for the 20th International AIDS Conference which begins on Sunday.

Australian Foreign Minister Julie Bishop has confirmed that a number of people on board the flight were travelling to Melbourne for the conference, but an exact figure has not yet been confirmed at the time of writing.

A statement from the International AIDS Society (IAS), which runs the International AIDS Conferences, has also been issued.
...
http://www.starobserver.com.au/news...4-delegates-among-those-on-mh17-flight/125312
 
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Friday, July 18, 07:30 AM SGT +0800 Media Statement 2 : MH17 Incident

Media Statement 2 : MH17 Incident

With immediate effect, all European flights operated by Malaysia Airlines will be taking alternative routes avoiding the usual route.

Malaysia Airlines flight MH17, which was on a scheduled flight from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur went down in eastern Ukraine. Malaysia Airlines confirms that the aircraft did not make a distress call.

The usual flight route was earlier declared safe by the International Civil Aviation Organisation. International Air Transportation Association has stated that the airspace the aircraft was traversing was not subject to restrictions.

As opposed to the earlier statement, the flight was carrying a total number of 298 people ? comprising 283 passengers including three infants of various nationalities and 15 crew of Malaysian nationality. Some of the nationalities of the passengers are yet to be determined.

List of number of passengers and crew according to nationality are as follows:-
<TABLE border=1 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width=173>Nationality


</TD><TD vAlign=top width=192>Total


</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=173>Netherlands


</TD><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" vAlign=top width=192>154


</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=173>Malaysia


</TD><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" vAlign=top width=192>43 (including 15 crew & 2 infants)


</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=173>Australia


</TD><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" vAlign=top width=192>27


</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=173>Indonesia


</TD><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" vAlign=top width=192>12 (including 1 infant)


</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=173>United Kingdom


</TD><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" vAlign=top width=192>9


</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=173>Germany


</TD><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" vAlign=top width=192>4


</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=173>Belgium


</TD><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" vAlign=top width=192>4


</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=173>Philippines


</TD><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" vAlign=top width=192>3


</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=173>Canada


</TD><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" vAlign=top width=192>1


</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=173>Unverified


</TD><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" vAlign=top width=192>41


</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=173>Total


</TD><TD style="TEXT-ALIGN: center" vAlign=top width=192>298


</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Malaysia Airlines is in the process of notifying the next-of-kin of the passengers and crew.

Our focus now is to work with the emergency responders and authorities and mobilize its full support to provide all possible care to the next-of-kin. Malaysia Airlines is deploying its ?Go Team? to Amsterdam with a group of caregivers and volunteers to assist the family members of the passengers.
Our thoughts and prayers are with all affected passengers and crew and their family members.

The airline will provide regular updates on the situation.

Families of passengers and crew may contact +603 7884 1234 (Malaysia) or +31703487770(Netherlands).

For media queries, kindly contact +603 8777 5698/ +603 8787 1276.
Please also log on to www.malaysiaairlines.com for updates.

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http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/mh17.html
 
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100 of MH17 dead heading to global AIDS conference: reports

Australian newspapers say more than one-third of nearly 300 who died were AIDS researchers


AFPPublished: 08:21 July 18, 2014

Melbourne: As many as 100 of those killed on a Malaysia Airlines plane that crashed in Ukraine were delegates heading to Australia for a global AIDS conference, unconfirmed reports said Friday.

The Australian broadsheet and the Sydney Morning Herald both said that more than one-third of the nearly 300 who died were AIDS researchers, health workers and activists en route to Melbourne.

The Herald said those attending a pre-conference meeting in Sydney were told that around 100 of their colleagues were on the plane that went down, including former International AIDS Society president Joep Lange.

The Australian reported that delegates to the 20th International AIDS Conference in Melbourne, which is due to begin on Sunday, were to be informed that 108 of their colleagues and family members died on MH17.

Gulf News
 
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WHO @WHO · 3h
We lost one of our colleagues, Glenn Thomas, on the Malaysian Airlines #MH17 that crashed yesterday. He will be greatly missed #RIPGlennWHO

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From: WorldHealthOrganizationNews@who.int
To: undisclosed-recipients@null, null@null
Subject: WHO Statement on Mr Glenn Thomas, WHO Media Officer who died in the MH17 plane
Date: Jul 18, 2014 7:37 AM
It is with deep sadness that we have to inform you that WHO lost one of our colleagues on the Malaysian Airlines crash yesterday. Glenn Thomas from the Department of Communications was travelling to the International AIDS Conference in Australia. His twin sister says he died doing what he loved.

Glenn had been with WHO for more than a decade. He came here from the BBC and spent many years providing communications support to the TB Department. Since 2012 he had been working on the media team in DCO, regularly hosting press conferences and working with you at the Palais and with other journalists to promote the work of WHO. Glenn will be remembered for his ready laugh and his passion for public health.

He will be greatly missed by those who had the opportunity to know him and work with him. He leaves behind his partner Claudio and his twin sister, Tracey.

Our deepest condolences go to his family, friends and colleagues at this time.

Media contact:

Gregory Härtl
Coordinator, News, Social Media and Monitoring
 
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Aids conference says 100 researchers may have been on flight MH17

Oliver Milman
theguardian.com, Friday 18 July 2014 02.53 EDT
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Delegates to a plenary session held ahead of the Aids 2014 conference were told that email exchanges showed about 100 attendees were booked on the MH17 flight...

There was no official confirmation of the number of researchers on board.
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?There?s a huge feeling of sadness here, people are in floods of tears in the corridors,? Clive Aspin, a veteran HIV researcher who attended the pre-conference plenary session in Sydney, told Guardian Australia. ?These people were the best and the brightest, the ones who had dedicated their whole careers to fighting this terrible virus. It?s devastating.?

Prof. Richard Boyd, director of the Monash Immunology and Stem Cell Laboratories, told Guardian Australia he was "gutted" by the losses.

"There were some serious HIV leaders on that plane," he said. "This will have ramifications globally because whenever you lose a leader in any field, it has an impact. That knowledge is irreplaceable.
...
Trevor Stratton, an HIV/Aids consultant, told the ABC: ?The cure for AIDS may have been on that plane, we just don?t know. You can?t just help but wonder about the kind of expertise on that plane.?

A number of leading scientists, including a former president of the International AIDS Society (IAS) who has led HIV research efforts since 1983, are believed to be among the dead.
...

Full text:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...earchers-may-have-been-on-board-crashed-plane
 
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UK Prime Minister David Cameron

47 mins ? .

My thoughts are with those who lost loved ones on Flight MH17, including the families of the British citizens on board.

I?ve been on the telephone today to the Australian Prime Minister and the Dutch Prime Minister ? they?ve suffered appalling loss of life as well. I?ve also been in contact with the Malaysians and will be making other calls so we can share the information we have between us.

It is an absolutely appalling, shocking, horrific incident that has taken place and we have got to get to the bottom of what happened and how it happened. We have some information but we need to find more.

If, as seems possible, the plane was brought down then those responsible must be held to account and we must lose no time in doing that. It is an absolutely shocking incident; it cannot be allowed to stand.

What is absolutely necessary is for all governments to cooperate in every way they can to get to the bottom of what happened, to make sure that this site can be properly investigated, and to make sure that the bodies of loved ones can be properly recovered.

https://www.facebook.com/DavidCameronOfficial/posts/812896375401349
 
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Friday, July 18, 08:20 PM GMT +0800 Media Statement 4 : MH17 Incident

Media Statement 4: MH17 Incident

1. Flight plan

MH17?s flight plan was approved by Eurocontrol, who are solely responsible for determining civil aircraft flight paths over European airspace. Eurocontrol is the air navigation service provider for Europe and is governed under ICAO rules.

The route over Ukrainian airspace where the incident occurred is commonly used for Europe to Asia flights. A flight from a different carrier was on the same route at the time of the MH17 incident, as were a number of other flights from other carriers in the days and weeks before. Eurocontrol maintains records of all flights across European airspace, including those across Ukraine.

In April, the International Civil Aviation Organization identified an area over the Crimean peninsula as risky. At no point did MH17 fly into, or request to fly into, this area. At all times, MH17 was in airspace approved by the ICAO.

2. Altitude

MH17 filed a flight plan requesting to fly at 35,000ft throughout Ukrainian airspace. This is close to the ?optimum? altitude.

However, an aircraft?s altitude in flight is determined by air traffic control on the ground. Upon entering Ukrainian airspace, MH17 was instructed by Ukrainian air traffic control to fly at 33,000ft.

3. Nationalities

Following this afternoon?s press conference, Malaysia Airlines can confirm that a further 16 passengers? nationalities have been verified. The latest breakdown of nationalities of those on board the flight is as follows:

? 189 Netherlands
? 44 Malaysia
? 27 Australia
? 12 Indonensia
? 9 UK
? 4 Belgium
? 4 Germany
? 3 Philippines
? 1 Canada
? 1 New Zealand

Four passengers? nationalities remain to be verified.

4. New flight route

Following this incident, Malaysia Airlines now avoids Ukrainian airspace entirely, flying further south over Turkey.

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http://www.malaysiaairlines.com/my/en/site/mh17.html
 
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Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17: Victims revealed as world looks for answers

BY Michael Walsh , Meg Wagner /
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS /
..
Updated: Friday, July 18, 2014, 12:32 PM
...
Just before noon Friday, U.S. President Obama announced that at least one American citizen, Quinn Lucas Schansman, died in the crash.

?We have been pretty methodical over the last 24 hours in working through the flight manifest and identifying which passengers might have had a U.S. passport," Obama said. "At this point, the individual I mentioned is the only person we can definitively say was a U.S. or dual citizen.?

Indiana University announced that one of their doctoral chemisty students, 25-year-old Karlijn Keijzer, was among the dead. The young woman from Amsterdam also held a master's degree from the university and was fondly remembered by her old rowing team.
...

Much more:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/wor...tims-nationalities-revealed-article-1.1871723
 
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Downing of Malaysian jet highlights urgency of resolving Ukraine crisis ? UN official



The UN Security Council holds a moment of silence in honour of the victims of crashed flight MH17. UN Photo/Loey Felipe

18 July 2014 ? The apparent deliberate downing of a Malaysian passenger plane over eastern Ukraine highlights the need for an urgent resumption of a ceasefire and a serious effort to end the ongoing crisis, the United Nations political chief told an emergency meeting of the Security Council today.

Malaysia Airlines flight MH17, carrying 298 people, was en route from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur when it crashed on Thursday in eastern Ukraine, near the Russian border.

Under-Secretary-General for Political Affairs Jeffrey Feltman said that while the UN has at this point no independent verification of the circumstances regarding the tragic crash, Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon is alarmed at what seem to be ?credible, numerous reports? that suggest that a sophisticated surface-to-air missile was used.

?The Secretary-General strongly condemns this apparently deliberate downing of a civilian aircraft,? said Mr. Feltman. ?This horrifying incident serves as the starkest reminder of how dire the situation in eastern Ukraine has become ? and how it affects countries and families well beyond Ukraine?s borders.?

Both the Secretary-General and the Security Council have called for an international investigation into the incident. The Council, in a press statement, also stressed the need for all parties to grant immediate access by investigators to the crash site.

Mr. Feltman said the UN is fully ready to cooperate, and it has been in touch with the UN International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), which has offered to Ukrainian officials its investigative capacity in order to put together an international team.

Among the casualties of the crash was a staff member of the World Health Organization (WHO), Glenn Thomas, who was on his way to an international AIDS conference in Australia.

Mr. Feltman said that while the security, political, economic, social, and human rights issues in Ukraine that should be addressed are complicated, it is hoped that the shock of the downing of the passenger jet will prompt a ?serious and sustained? effort to end the fighting.

He reported that following the 30 June announcement by President Petro Poroshenko of the end of the 10-day ceasefire and subsequent resumption of the security and law enforcement operation in the eastern parts of Ukraine, the fighting between Government forces and armed groups has intensified dangerously, resulting in numerous deaths.

According to the Ukrainian authorities, a number of towns, including notably the cities of Sloviansk and Kramatorsk, as well as various smaller villages in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions, have been returned to their control.

However, Mr. Feltman said, relentless fighting has continued particularly in and around the cities of Lugansk and Donetsk, where the armed groups appear to have consolidated their presence. Earlier this week, a fierce battle was also fought over the international airport in Lugansk that now appears under the Ukrainian Government?s control.

The situation on and around the border between Ukraine and Russia is of ?particular concern,? he said, noting that, while it is impossible for the UN to independently verify these accounts, a number of fatal incidents as well as intense fighting have been reported in recent days.

?As the Secretary-General has reiterated on countless occasions, armed groups need to immediately disarm and stop engaging in unlawful and violent acts,? the official stated.

?At the same time, we continue to strongly urge the Ukrainian authorities to act with maximum restraint and to make every effort possible to ensure the protection of civilians caught in the fighting.?

While estimations of the total number of civilian casualties vary, the UN human rights office reports there have been approximately 500 casualties so far and 1,400 people injured. Also, the UN refugee agency estimates that the crisis has displaced some tens of thousands of people.

?Grievances can and must never justify endangering the lives of those one claims and aims to represent and protect,? Mr. Feltman stated. ?As the fighting continues, we are, however, disconcerted by the apparent lack of tangible progress toward a political solution.

?A first, critical step would be the immediate resumption of a ceasefire,? he stated.?Establishing a path to peace in Ukraine, as in areas of conflict elsewhere in the world, requires a concerted effort by national actors from across the political spectrum, backed by strong and unified support of the international community,? said Mr. Feltman, who is expected to return to Kiev and Moscow in the coming days in the spirit of the Secretary-General?s good offices.

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=48303
 
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Government of Netherlands
MH17 incident

Timmermans calls for unhindered and safe access to crash site

News item | 18-07-2014

?This is a black day for the Netherlands, and for Malaysia. We mourn all those who were on board flight MH17, whatever their nationality,? said foreign minister Frans Timmermans in response to the Ukraine air disaster.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs is immediately dispatching a consular support team to Kyiv to assist the local Dutch embassy. The Ministry has set up a crisis team in The Hague. Relatives can contact the Ministry by calling +31 (0)70 348 7770.

Mr Timmermans called his Ukrainian counterpart Pavlo Klimkin on Thursday evening to discuss the disaster. He emphasised the need for an independent investigation into today?s events. Mr Klimkin pledged his full cooperation and said he would welcome Dutch participation.

The Minister assured Ukraine the Netherlands would provide every possible support in the relief efforts and further action following this terrible disaster, including deployment of the Dutch National Forensic Investigation Team (LFTO) to help identify the victims. The ministers agreed that responders need to be given unhindered and safe access to the area and that the crash site should remain undisturbed. They called on all those involved to provide full and immediate cooperation in the matter.

http://www.government.nl/issues/mh1...unhindered-and-safe-access-to-crash-site.html

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Statement by minister Opstelten, concerning the disaster involving flight MH17

News item | 18-07-2014

On 18 July, the Minister of Security and Justice, Ivo Opstelten, issued a third statement concerning the disaster involving flight MH17 (Malaysia Airlines), which crashed on 17 July in Ukraine.
Ladies and gentlemen,

This morning Malaysia Airlines announced that at least 173 Dutch nationals were known to have died in the disaster involving flight MH17. That number is hard to take in. The terrible reality of this disaster is starting to dawn on us. An investigation will have to determine the exact cause of the crash, though it seems extremely probable from the information currently at our disposal that MH17 was shot down.

It is crucial to find out exactly what happened. A great many Dutch nationals were killed, so it is important that the Netherlands, as part of the international investigation team, carry out investigations at the site of the crash at the earliest opportunity. The investigation will start as soon as possible, in consultation with the Ukrainian authorities.

The Dutch Safety Board will be involved in the investigation and will send a team of investigators to Kyiv as soon as possible. The focus is on the following elements: the cause of the accident, the passenger list and the plane's flight path. The Prime Minister and the Minister of Foreign Affairs will provide you with more detailed information this afternoon at a press conference.

At present, we are concentrating on helping families and friends in concrete ways. They are being offered assistance and information.

Everyone in the Netherlands is united in their sympathy for those who have lost loved ones. A book of condolence can be signed, either online at rijksoverheid.nl or here at my Ministry. I shall be signing it myself as soon as I have finished speaking to you.

A list of those who have lost friends or family is now being drawn up by the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the National Forensic Investigation Team. Victim Support Netherlands will set up a closed website to provide information for the friends and relatives of victims. The police will appoint family support officers to help the next of kin cope with their loss. For more information, relatives and friends can contact the team at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs at +31 (0)70 348 7770.

I am fully aware that it can sometimes take a long time before friends and family are told exactly what has happened. We are working as hard as we can to get information to them as quickly as possible. Many Dutch mayors find themselves in a very difficult position at present. Stories are circulating in many municipalities regarding the names of victims. However, until official identifications have been made, the municipal authorities cannot formally confirm these names: as you will appreciate, no one wants to hear via the media that his or her loved one has been killed.

The National Forensic Investigation Team will travel to the disaster site as soon as possible. They are currently preparing for departure. After identification, victims will be repatriated as soon as possible.

On Monday, there will be a closed information meeting for the victims' next of kin.

At present this is all the information I can give you. As soon as we know anything more, we will get back to you with all possible speed.

http://www.government.nl/issues/mh1...rning-the-disaster-involving-flight-mh17.html

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Rutte: ?We want to get to the bottom of this tragedy?

News item | 18-07-2014

At 16:15 on Friday afternoon, Prime Minister Mark Rutte and Minister of Foreign Affairs Frans Timmermans issued a statement on the air disaster in Ukraine involving flight MH17. According to the prime minister, the government's priority is to 'achieve clarity by means of an independent investigation'. The foreign minister announced that he would be travelling to Ukraine this evening.

Prime Minister Mark Rutte:

Ladies and gentlemen,

The dramatic events that took place yesterday in Ukraine are now, a day later, assuming an increasingly tragic scale. Yesterday I spoke of 154 Dutch nationals who were known to have died. That number has now risen to at least 189. Today, we are starting to hear the stories of individual travellers: young people, entire families and a large group of scientists who boarded the flight yesterday with no inkling of the terrible fate that was in store for them. And more and more of my fellow countrymen are being shocked to learn, from friends or acquaintances, of the deaths of people they knew. That shows, once again, how closely we are all connected in this small country of ours.

The Netherlands was shocked by this tragic event, and our thoughts go out to the families and loved ones of the victims. Summer festivities are being toned down, and a constant stream of messages of sympathy are being posted on social media.

It would appear that flight MH17 was shot down, but the exact nature of the disaster has not yet been established. The government's main priority, therefore, is to achieve clarity by means of an independent investigation.

A team of investigators from the Dutch Safety Board will travel to the site of the crash. It is crucial that they are given unobstructed access to the disaster site and to the data contained in the flight recorders.

I have shared this appeal with many international colleagues. For instance with the Malaysian Prime Minister and the Ukrainian president yesterday, and, today, with Chancellor Merkel, President Hollande and President Obama. I also communicated it in a phone call to President Putin just now.

He, too, assured me that Russia is pressing for a full, international, independent investigation.

Let me make one thing clear. We want to get to the bottom of this tragedy. And if it becomes clear that the aircraft was attacked, I will personally make every effort to ensure that the perpetrators are found and punished. We will not rest until this is done. We owe that to the innocent victims and their next of kin.

A book of condolence has been opened here at the Ministry, and before doing anything else, I intend to sign it.

http://www.government.nl/issues/mh1...ant-to-get-to-the-bottom-of-this-tragedy.html
 
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OVSE investigation team thwarted at crash site

The team could not go where they wanted to go, the commander of the local separatists fired gunshots in the air to prevent team members to investigate some wreckage.


In Dutch: OVSE op rampplek tegengewerkt
 
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http://theconversation.com/why-was-malaysia-airlines-flight-mh17-flying-over-ukraine-29372
18 July 2014, 7.27am BST
Why was Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 flying over Ukraine?
Author Geoffrey Dell
Associate Professor/Discipline Leader Accident Investigation and Forensics at Central Queensland University
Disclosure Statement
Geoffrey Dell does not work for, consult to, own shares in or receive funding from any company or organisation that would benefit from this article, and has no relevant affiliations.

....
One of the other factors to influence this tragedy is that local airspace managers for that area didn?t close all the airspace over the region; they only closed the airspace below 32,000ft.

Flight MH17 was reported to be flying at a height of 33,000ft, just 1,000ft above the restricted airspace over Ukraine....
http://aviationweek.com/commercial-aviation/mh17-flight-route-approved-eurocontrol-safe-icao-iata
MH17 Flight Route Approved By Eurocontrol, Safe Per ICAO, IATA
Jul 18, 2014 John Croft | AWIN First

Malaysia Airlines says the route for Flight MH17 over the Ukraine had been accepted by Eurocontrol for an altitude of 35,000 ft. but Ukrainian controllers kept the 777-200ER (9M-MRD) flying at 33,000 ft. instead.
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ICAO says ?it is always the responsibility? of member states to issue warnings or airspace and ceiling restrictions ?based on what they consider to be potential threats to civilian air services in the airspace under their sovereign control?, says a spokesman. ?ICAO does issue these warnings under extraordinary circumstances, for instance where States may not be able to due to command and control breakdowns, or possibly where a State does not have good diplomatic relations with the States who need to receive the safety advisory and it asks ICAO to do contact these adjacent States on its behalf.?...
http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/missile/row/sa-11.htm
SA-11 GADFLY
9K37M1 BUK-1M
...
<table cellpadding="4" cellspacing="1" bgcolor="#ffffff" width="90%"><tbody><tr><td valign="TOP" width="50%">Performance:
</td> <td valign="TOP" width="50%">
</td> </tr> <tr><td valign="TOP" width="50%"> Max. velocity (Mach)
</td> <td valign="TOP" width="50%"> 3 (est.)
</td> </tr> <tr><td valign="TOP" width="50%"> Max. altitude (m)
</td> <td valign="TOP" width="50%"> 15,000 (est.)
</td> </tr> <tr><td valign="TOP" width="50%"> Min altitude (m)
</td> <td valign="TOP" width="50%"> 25-30 (est.)
</td> </tr> <tr><td valign="TOP" width="50%"> Operational range (km)
</td> <td valign="TOP" width="50%"> 30 (est.)
</td> </tr> <tr><td valign="TOP" width="50%">
</td><td valign="TOP" width="50%"> 3 (est.)
</td></tr></tbody></table>

15,000 m = 49212.598 ft, well above the 32,000 ft altitude restriction set by Ukraine. Both Ukraine and separatists apparently had or at least claimed these capabilities and it was public knowledge.

http://en.itar-tass.com/world/738262
Donetsk defence forces take control of army unit equipped with missile defence systems
World
June 29, 19:30 UTC+4
No details are available about the number and condition of the missile systems taken over by the self-defence forces
DONETSK, June 29, /ITAR-TASS/. Self-defence forces of the Donetsk People?s Republic have taken control over a missile defence army unit equipped with Buk missile defence systems, the press service of the Donetsk People?s Republic told Itar-Tass on Sunday...


http://globalnews.ca/news/1433940/ukraine-claims-victory-in-rebel-stronghold/
Ukrainian government forces maneuver antiaircraft missile launchers Buk as they are transported north-west from Slovyansk, eastern Ukraine Friday, July 4, 2014. (AP Photo/Dmitry Lovetsky)

So I think ICAO should not have relied on guidelines set by one side in a conflict when so many lives are at stake. The conflict area to be avoided is only a portion of Ukrainian airspace. I think the "extraordinary circumstances" should have applied to that area.
 
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OVSE investigation team thwarted at crash site

The team could not go where they wanted to go, the commander of the local separatists fired gunshots in the air to prevent team members to investigate some wreckage.


In Dutch: OVSE op rampplek tegengewerkt

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/07/18/ukraine-crisis-airplane-osce-idUSL6N0PT5D120140718
UPDATE 3-OSCE says it did not receive proper access to Ukraine crash site

Fri Jul 18, 2014 4:49pm EDT
By Anton Zverev

(Reuters) - Gunmen prevented monitors from the Organisation for Security and Cooperation in Europe from observing and report on the site where a Malaysian airliner crashed in rebel-held eastern Ukraine on Friday, officials said.

Calling their behaviour "impolite and unprofessional", a spokesman for the security watchdog said some gunmen in the area seemed intoxicated while others would not let the team of about 25 observers look at the wreckage of the Boeing 777.

"We had expected unfettered access, that's the way we work," Michael Bociurkiw told a news conference.

"Unfortunately the task was made very difficult. Upon arrival at the site ... we encountered armed personnel who acted in a very impolite and unprofessional manner. Some of them even looked slightly intoxicated."

He denied that the observers had been fired at by pro-Russian rebels, but said one gunman fired shots into the air seemingly to scare off some civilian...


Наблюдатели ОБСЕ на месте крушения малайзийского ?Боинга? - репортаж icorpus.ru
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Published on Jul 18, 2014

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Re: Malaysian passenger plane crashes on Ukraine-Russia border

President Obama Speaks on Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17, Russia and Ukraine, and the Situation in Gaza

David Hudson
July 18, 2014
01:58 PM EDT

Today, President Obama delivered a statement to the press in the wake of the tragic crash of Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 yesterday:

Yesterday, Malaysia Airlines Flight MH17 took off from Amsterdam and was shot down over Ukraine near the Russian border. Nearly 300 innocent lives were taken -- men, women, children, infants -- who had nothing to do with the crisis in Ukraine. Their deaths are an outrage of unspeakable proportions.

We know at least one American citizen, Quinn Lucas Schansman, was killed. Our thoughts and prayers are with his family for this terrible loss.

Yesterday, I spoke with the leaders of Ukraine, Malaysia, and the Netherlands. I told them that our thoughts and prayers are with all the families and that the American people stand with them during this difficult time. Later today, I?ll be speaking to Prime Minister Abbott of Australia, which also suffered a terrible loss.

By far, the country that lost the most people on board the plane was the Netherlands. From the days of our founding, the Dutch have been close friends and stalwart allies of the United States of America. And today, I want the Dutch people to know that we stand with you, shoulder to shoulder, in our grief and in our absolute determination to get to the bottom of what happened.

The President went on to detail what we know about the plane crash so far:

Evidence indicates that the plane was shot down by a surface-to-air missile that was launched from an area that is controlled by Russian-backed separatists inside of Ukraine. We also know that this is not the first time a plane has been shot down in eastern Ukraine. Over the last several weeks, Russian-backed separatists have shot down a Ukrainian transport plane and a Ukrainian helicopter, and they claimed responsibility for shooting down a Ukrainian fighter jet. Moreover, we know that these separatists have received a steady flow of support from Russia. This includes arms and training. It includes heavy weapons, and it includes anti-aircraft weapons.

President Obama noted that this was "a global tragedy -- an Asian airliner was destroyed in European skies, filled with citizens from many countries." And as a result, there now needs to be a credible, international investigation into exactly what happened.

"The U.N. Security Council has endorsed this investigation," the President said, "and we will hold all its members ? including Russia ? to their word." He then made clear that Russia, pro-Russian separatists, and Ukraine need to "adhere to an immediate cease-fire" in order to facilitate the investigation.

"Evidence must not be tampered with," he said. "Investigators need to access the crash site. And the solemn task of returning those who were lost on board the plane to their loved ones needs to go forward immediately."

The U.S. is ready to provide any necessary assistance to the investigation, and has already offered the support of the FBI and the National Transportation Safety Board (NTSB), and personnel from these two agencies are already on their way to assist in the investigation. President Obama said that he will "continue to be in close contact with leaders from around the world" as the U.S. responds to this catastrophe.

He emphasized that the immediate focus is on "recovering those who were lost, investigating exactly what happened, and putting forward the facts." But more broadly, he made clear that peace and security must be restored in Ukraine:

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http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2014...s-flight-mh17-russia-and-ukraine-and-situatio
 
Re: Malaysian passenger plane crashes on Ukraine-Russia border

Monitors find confusion, hostility at Malaysia Airlines crash site

By Ralph Ellis, Michael Pearson, and Laura Smith-Spark, CNN
updated 5:12 PM EDT, Fri July 18, 2014

Kiev, Ukraine (CNN) -- International monitors investigating the Malaysia Airlines crash in eastern Ukraine said Friday the team was not given full access to the site and was greeted with hostility by armed men guarding the scene.

"It basically looks like the biggest crime scene in the world right now, guarded by a bunch of guys in uniform with heavy firepower who are quite inhospitable," Michael Bociurkiw, spokesman for the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe team, told CNN's Christiane Amanpour.

"And there didn't seem to be anyone really in control, for example. One of our top priorities was to find out what happened to the black boxes. No one was there to answer those questions."

The 21-member OSCE team arrived at the crash site near Torez in a remote section of eastern Ukraine that's controlled by pro-Russian militants who are battling the Ukraine government. The identity of the armed men at the site was not clear.

Lack of access worries U.S. officials, including Ben Rhodes, deputy national security adviser for strategic communications, who tweeted: "Monitors should be able to access the crash site of MH17. US is deeply concerned by reports that separatists are denying access."

Bociurkiw said the group of monitors only got to stay about 75 minutes on the scene. Missiles could be heard in the distance, which made the monitors uneasy, he said.

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http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/18/world/europe/ukraine-malaysia-airlines-crash/index.html?hpt=hp_t1
 
Re: Malaysian passenger plane crashes on Ukraine-Russia border

Tweets from Dutch Journalist Olaf Koens, who spend the night at the disaster site.

Olaf Koens ‏@obk 1h
Krankzinnige nacht in een tent naast het toestel doorgebracht. Vanmorgen lang door de velden gelopen. Het is verschrikkelijk.

Insane night spent in a tent next to the plane. This morning, walked across the fields. It's horrible.

Olaf Koens ‏@obk 30m
Er zijn geen experts, geen rampendeskundigen, geen internationale onderzoekers, geen politici. Alleen rebellen en de lokale brandweer

There are no experts, no disaster experts, no international researchers, not politicians. Only rebels and the local fire brigade
 
Re: Malaysian passenger plane crashes on Ukraine-Russia border

OSCE Permanent Council adopts declaration on tragic plane crash in Ukraine, calls for access to site and for an independent investigation

VIENNA, 18 July 2014 ? Representatives of the OSCE?s 57 participating States at the Permanent Council today adopted a declaration on the tragic crash of the Malaysia Airlines flight MH17 in Ukraine.

In a consensus decision, all 57 participating States of the OSCE expressed their strong support to the efforts of the Trilateral Contact Group (Russia, Ukraine, OSCE) to create conditions for a sustainable ceasefire, to be agreed swiftly, and to be observed by all concerned, thus putting an end to violence in eastern Ukraine.

The Declaration also calls for immediate, safe and secure access to the site and surrounding area for the OSCE Special Monitoring Mission and other representatives of relevant international organizations.

It also called upon all those in the area to preserve the crash site intact, including by refraining from destroying, moving, or disturbing wreckage, equipment, debris, personal belongings, or remains.

In the Declaration, the Permanent Council also supports calls for an open, transparent and independent international investigation, in co-ordination with the International Civil Aviation Organization (ICAO), including with participation of technical and forensic experts from the Ukrainian, Malaysian, and Dutch governments as well as other technical and forensic experts and relevant regional bodies.

The Permanent Council called on all participating States and other actors to support the steps and to refrain from any interference with an international investigation.

http://www.osce.org/pc/121421
 
Re: Malaysian passenger plane crashes on Ukraine-Russia border

"The Russian-led terrorists attempt to destroy evidence of the MH17 plane crash" - the Government of Ukraine

19.07.2014 | 12:17

Department of Information and Communication of the Secretariat of the CMU
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The Russian-led terrorists are preventing access of the international community and foreign governments to the location where the Malaysian Airlines airplane crashed on July 17, and are obstructing the launch of an investigation.

The Government was informed that the terrorists moved 38 bodies of the victims to the morgue in Donetsk, where the ?experts? with Russian accent claimed that they intend to perform autopsies. The terrorist groups are also seeking to obtain large cargo transport to move the remnants of the aircraft to Russia.

The Government officially states: the terrorists, with Russia?s support, are attempting to destroy the evidence of this international crime. We urge the international community to oblige Russia to withdraw its terrorists from Ukraine and to allow the Ukrainian and international experts to hold a comprehensive investigation of the tragedy.

There will be no pardon for the international criminals, nor for those who supported them, who trained them, financed them and supplied weapons to them.

The Government informed the EU member states and the United States about the latest developments. The Government provided all necessary technical equipment and personnel to hold the investigation and forensic examinations, as well as all means to repatriate the victims? bodies to their respective countries, but at this stage the Russian-led terrorist groups prevent this from happening.



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