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Indonesia refuses to share bird flu samples with WHO without legally binding agreemen

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Indonesia refuses to share bird flu samples with WHO without legally binding agreement
http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2007/3/13/apworld/20070313214646&sec=apworld
JAKARTA, Indonesia (AP)

Indonesia will not share bird flu samples with the World Health Organization without a legally binding agreement promising the virus won't be used to develop an expensive commercial vaccine, the health minister said Tuesday.

Siti Fadilah Supari, digging her heels in following a weekslong standoff with the global body, said a letter of guarantee from WHO's director general Margaret Chan late last month was not good enough.

"We will not share the virus before there is a Material Transfer Agreement,'' she told reporters, adding that she hoped one would be drafted during a bird flu meeting in Jakarta in late March between Asia Pacific health leaders and WHO.

Several countries are developing vaccines to protect against H5N1, the bird flu virus strain blamed for 167 human deaths worldwide - more than a third of them in Indonesia.

The virus remains mainly an animal disease, but experts fear it may mutate into a form that easily spreads between humans, potentially killing millions.

Indonesia is worried that large drug companies will use its bird flu samples, sent to WHO affiliated laboratories to confirm human infections, to make vaccines that will ultimately be unaffordable for developing nations.

Chan told Supari in a Feb. 28 letter seen by The Associated Press that WHO would use Indonesia's strain of the virus "for public health risk assessment purposes only.''-AP
 
Re: Indonesia refuses to share bird flu samples with WHO without legally binding agre

Re: Indonesia refuses to share bird flu samples with WHO without legally binding agre

what about a legally binding document,that says all countrys in the world developed or not,will get the vaccine for free,paid for by all the goverments,that can afford it,i mean you cant replace people with pieces of paper(money),can you.
 
Re: Indonesia refuses to share bird flu samples with WHO without legally binding agre

Re: Indonesia refuses to share bird flu samples with WHO without legally binding agre

why should some government that "can afford it" agree ?
how do you determine who can afford what ?
how do you enforce it later ?
why should Indonesia agree , that would put them down
in the queue for candidates presumably.


Assume one country has enough vaccine for x% of its population.
Now another country "who can't afford it" requires a share of
y% of these x% for theit population ....
Also, it discourages countries to produce vaccine,
when they can only keep a fraction of it for themselves.
 
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UN Agency Must Wait Until May for Indonesia's Bird Flu Samples

By Karima Anjani
March 14 (Bloomberg) -- The World Health Organization must
wait at least until May to receive specimens from Indonesia's
bird flu cases because the government wants to ensure the
information has legal protection and can't be freely used by
vaccine makers, Health Minister Siti Fadilah Supari said.
The WHO wants the information from Indonesia, the country
with the most fatalities caused by the H5N1 avian influenza
strain, to monitor signs the virus is becoming more contagious
to people and to assist drugmakers develop vaccines that could
be used to protect people against any pandemic that H5N1 spawns.
Global capacity to produce pandemic vaccines is limited and
Indonesia is concerned that it won't have access to shots the
country helped produce. Under WHO regulations, countries have no
control over how avian-flu samples are used, Supari said.
``If it's used to produce vaccine, we don't have the
right'' to protest, she told reporters in the capital, Jakarta,
today. ``Vaccine makers will try to produce and sell them to us
at a high price. Poorer countries shouldn't become a commercial
target.'' GlaxoSmithKline Plc charges about $6 to $11 for its
seasonal flu vaccine, and prices for its H5N1 vaccine will be
close to that range, a company official said this week. Almost
one in five of Indonesia's estimated 242 million people lives on
a weekly income of $4, according to the country's central
statistics bureau.
Governments are stockpiling vaccines and other medical
treatments in preparation for a possible global flu outbreak.
World health officials say H5N1 may spark the next pandemic
after it spread in birds to 56 countries and infected at least
278 people, killing 168 of them, since 2003.

New Protocol

Indonesia will host a meeting of health ministry officials
from the Asia-Pacific region in Jakarta on March 27 to draft new
protocol for the sharing of specimens and vaccines. The
Indonesian government in December banned drugmakers from having
free access to samples after Australia's CSL Ltd. developed an
experimental vaccine based on an Indonesian strain.
Health Minister Supari wants to take the recommendations to
a meeting of the WHO's executive board in Geneva in May.
``This has been going on for years and, if God is willing,
the regulation should be changed to a fairer one,'' she said.
``Without a change in the regulation, we won't send our virus
samples.''
The WHO said in a Feb. 28 letter to the Indonesian
government that it guarantees virus samples will be used to
assess the public health risk posed by the virus. The United
Nations health agency has been trying to persuade Indonesian
officials that monitoring the virus and the genetic changes it
is undergoing are crucial in preempting a pandemic.
Supari said today the letter isn't sufficient to convince
the Southeast Asian nation to resume sharing H5N1 samples.

--Editor: J. Gale
 
Re: Indonesia refuses to share bird flu samples with WHO without legally binding agre

Re: Indonesia refuses to share bird flu samples with WHO without legally binding agre

The legitimate request from Indonesia, and for this matter all poor countries, put the actual WHO structure and tigh binding relations with big Corps under the spotlight.

Return on Investments will be over and out as for pandemic concern, period.

If Big Pharma stubbornly resist, we will see what is now happening.

WHO, will break into pieces into ots six regions.

And everybody, specially rich countries will loose humans a lot.

Its about time that Public Health figures like Heymann and Fukuda tells the Truth about the nasty business structures incrusted in the WHO.
 
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JEFF NESMITH
c. 2007 Cox News Service
Distributed by The New York Times Syndicate​

International health officials will try this month to persuade officials of Indonesia to lift a virus embargo that is hampering efforts to prepare for a possible bird flu pandemic.​

The Indonesian Ministry of Health told the World Health Organization late last year that it would no longer provide samples of the H5N1 virus until it receives assurance that it will have access to pandemic vaccines.​

Since then, a WHO official said Tuesday, the organization's international network of collaborating laboratories at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta and three other cities has not been able to obtain samples of the virus from Indonesia, the country hardest hit by bird flu, with 81 laboratory-confirmed cases and 63 deaths.​

The disease has sickened 278 people worldwide, according to WHO, killing 168 of them.​

Without the samples, flu experts are unable to track changes that are building up in the genes of H5N1, the influenza virus health experts fear could evolve into a human strain and cause a pandemic.

No one knows when - or if - that will happen.

In addition to studying the virus, the laboratories provide free "seed virus" to vaccine manufacturers, several of which have already started making vaccine for the H5N1 strain, even though it has not developed the ability to move freely from human to human - the trigger for a possible pandemic. So far, human infection has been caused mostly by exposure to infected poultry or wildfowl.​

Officials in Indonesia say they are worried that virus samples they provide to the WHO system are being used to make vaccines that are too expensive for their citizens to buy.

WHO official David Heymann, who has worked since December to resolve the crisis, is to meet in Jakarta on March 27 and 28 with Indonesian officials, representatives of CDC and others to get the virus samples moving again.

"All I can tell you is at the moment they (the Indonesians) are not providing virus, and the meeting in Jakarta will look at the twin issues of virus sharing and vaccine production," said WHO spokesman Gregory Hartl(cq).

"The problem, from our understanding, is based on the fact that they put the virus into this international system and all of a sudden it is used to produce a vaccine that they can't afford to buy," he added.​

The entire world manufacturing capacity for influenza vaccine is sufficient to immunize only 500 million people, and perhaps only half that if more than one dose is required.​

Most vaccine for H5N1 has been sold to developed countries before it is produced - or even completes clinical trials - to be stockpiled in case of a pandemic.​

Indonesian Health Minister Siti Fadilah Supari has been quoted in press accounts as saying her government wants to "create a balance between developed and developing countries in facing catastrophe."

"The WHO has been siding with capital owners,
which sometimes forget the good of the people," she said.
"We want to change that."

Her action has been hailed by officials of other developing countries and in some quarters of the developed world.

"Good for Indonesia. There, it's been said," declared the British magazine New Scientist in an editorial.

"In a fair world, Indonesia would send its virus to the best labs and share in any vaccine made from it.

In our world, Indonesia sends off its virus, companies make vaccine from it and sell it to countries that can pay.

Indonesia is not one of them, and neither are the other countries suffering badly from H5N1."

Maurice Middleberg(cq), a vice president of the Global Health Council, a group that advocates efforts to improve the health of people in developing countries, said the practice of sharing virus is essential to confronting the influenza threat - but the needs of developing countries must be considered also.

"The exchange of scientific information is essential to preventing the emergence of a global pandemic, but a way also must be found so that countries that cannot afford vaccine at commercial rates will be able to get it," Middleberg said.​

The matter has been complicated by a "memorandum of understanding" Indonesia has signed with the U.S. drug manufacturer Baxter International, which manufacturers influenza vaccine at a plant in the Czech Republic.

Baxter spokesman Chris Bona declined to make details of the memorandum public, but said that as a result of signing it in February, the company has received samples of "wild" H5N1 influenza virus from Indonesia.​

However, he said Baxter had urged the Indonesians to resume providing virus samples to the WHO network.​

He said the memorandum was a "framework" for collaboration between the company and Indonesia, which has said it wants its own vaccine manufacturing capability.

Bona said the sample was delivered to Baxter through WHO.​

This would have been during the time that Indonesia has refused to provide WHO samples for use in the laboratories.

A WHO spokesman said he knew nothing about that.
Published March 16, 2007​
 
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Re: Indonesia refuses to share bird flu samples with WHO without legally binding agre

but arent the indonesians putting there own people at risk by behaving like this.?
 
Re: Indonesia refuses to share bird flu samples with WHO without legally binding agre

Re: Indonesia refuses to share bird flu samples with WHO without legally binding agre

No Vinny,

If poor countries do not succeed in making WHO Respectfull of Human Rights regardless of ""Wealth"", it will be business as usual for poor countries, that is Death and indifference from rich countries and Billionnaires Big Pharma.

For the sake of Humanity, Big Pharma must bend, otherwise we will all go into the ditches, particularly rich countries that lives in a sort of an automatic teller.
 
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