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INDONESIA - Garut Cluster Part II
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Re: INDONESIA - Garut Cluster Part II
She may be saying this just to try to keep MSM away from the story. She can give them a headline: "No clusters in Garut," which is then seconded by Kandun. Either that, or they have a very unique way of defining "clusters."
Theresa42 said:
She may be saying this just to try to keep MSM away from the story. She can give them a headline: "No clusters in Garut," which is then seconded by Kandun. Either that, or they have a very unique way of defining "clusters."
Re: INDONESIA - Garut Cluster Part II
From #61
Whereas four patients suspect other bird flu in Garut that consisted of the man have the initials M. (20), the woman had the initials EL (35), the daughter had the initials R (13), the male child had the initials S (4) died before could be taken his sample to be checked.
Theresa42 said:
From #61
Whereas four patients suspect other bird flu in Garut that consisted of the man have the initials M. (20), the woman had the initials EL (35), the daughter had the initials R (13), the male child had the initials S (4) died before could be taken his sample to be checked.
Theresa42
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Re: INDONESIA - Garut Cluster Part II
Yes -- but the report from Pikiran Rakyat says: Four other people who died and were it was suspected attacked by bird flu were Euis Lina, the Nun, the Lamp, and Sardi. (post 8)
So, four other people who died are suspected to have had bf: Euis Lina, Rubiyah [the nun], Misbah [the lamp] and Sardi.
That doesn't contradict reports that Misbah was 20 and a cousin of Umar. And, they even said Sardi.
??niman said:
Yes -- but the report from Pikiran Rakyat says: Four other people who died and were it was suspected attacked by bird flu were Euis Lina, the Nun, the Lamp, and Sardi. (post 8)
So, four other people who died are suspected to have had bf: Euis Lina, Rubiyah [the nun], Misbah [the lamp] and Sardi.
That doesn't contradict reports that Misbah was 20 and a cousin of Umar. And, they even said Sardi.
Re: INDONESIA - Garut Cluster Part II
http://www.pikiran-rakyat.com/cetak/2006/082006/20/0101.htm
The patient ”Suspect” Bird Flu improved 4 Orang
the Poultry Traffic from/to Cikelet was closed by Garut, (HOMEWORK).
- the Garut Regent, H. Agus Supriadi stated, the Cikelet territory was stated was closed for the poultry traffic till 2007, after in this territory spread the plague of the bird flu virus.
This policy was raised, after beforehand the regent stated the extraordinary condition (KLB) bird flu (Avian influenza), had been counted since spreading him this virus in Kab.
Garut.
That was raised by the Garut Regent, after witnessing the extermination of the poultry in Cikelet, Kab.
Garut, on Saturday (19/8).
In the meantime, suspect bird flu in Kab.
Garut again improved 4 people.
Therefore, up until Saturday (19/8) Garut citizens that was stated suspect bird flu since spreading him this plague, became 13 people.
The West Javanese deputy governor Nu'Man Abdul Justice, said, that determined KLB was the national level or the government of the centre.
Moreover, continued the deputy governor, the determination suspect bird flu also must be determined by the laboratory in Hong Kong, as that was indicated by WHO.
However, Nu'man added, his side has ordered the Health Service and the West Javanese Service of Province Livestock Breeding, to increase the supervision of the spreading of the bird flu illness in the Village/Kec.
Cikelet, Kab.
Garut.
Moreover, for four first days, since Saturday (19/8), intensively they must report the development of this case.
According to Kadis West Javanese Livestock Breeding, Dr. Ir. Rachmat Setiadi, M. S., to avoid the spreading of the bird flu illness, the official has memvaksin the poultry around the Cikelet Village.
Because of Kec.
Cikelet covered nine villages.
Disnak West Java then prepared 100.
000 bottles of the vaccine.
Moreover, the official did surveilans that is observation and investigation to areas that it was suspected became the spreading point of the bird flu illness.
One of them, Kp.
/the Cigadog Village, Kec.
Cikelet, Kab.
Garut.
At first again, Euis Lina that died resulting from the bird flu illness, was the inhabitants Kp.
Cigadog.
Rachmat added, to avoid expanded him the bird flu illness, he asked the Garut Regent to tighten the poultry traffic in his territory.
Whereas the poultry traffic in the Village/Kec.
Cikelet, was forced to be closed for 30 days.
That was done to avoid expanded him the bird flu illness from or to the Village/Kec.
Cikelet.
http://www.pikiran-rakyat.com/cetak/2006/082006/20/0101.htm
The patient ”Suspect” Bird Flu improved 4 Orang
the Poultry Traffic from/to Cikelet was closed by Garut, (HOMEWORK).
- the Garut Regent, H. Agus Supriadi stated, the Cikelet territory was stated was closed for the poultry traffic till 2007, after in this territory spread the plague of the bird flu virus.
This policy was raised, after beforehand the regent stated the extraordinary condition (KLB) bird flu (Avian influenza), had been counted since spreading him this virus in Kab.
Garut.
That was raised by the Garut Regent, after witnessing the extermination of the poultry in Cikelet, Kab.
Garut, on Saturday (19/8).
In the meantime, suspect bird flu in Kab.
Garut again improved 4 people.
Therefore, up until Saturday (19/8) Garut citizens that was stated suspect bird flu since spreading him this plague, became 13 people.
The West Javanese deputy governor Nu'Man Abdul Justice, said, that determined KLB was the national level or the government of the centre.
Moreover, continued the deputy governor, the determination suspect bird flu also must be determined by the laboratory in Hong Kong, as that was indicated by WHO.
However, Nu'man added, his side has ordered the Health Service and the West Javanese Service of Province Livestock Breeding, to increase the supervision of the spreading of the bird flu illness in the Village/Kec.
Cikelet, Kab.
Garut.
Moreover, for four first days, since Saturday (19/8), intensively they must report the development of this case.
According to Kadis West Javanese Livestock Breeding, Dr. Ir. Rachmat Setiadi, M. S., to avoid the spreading of the bird flu illness, the official has memvaksin the poultry around the Cikelet Village.
Because of Kec.
Cikelet covered nine villages.
Disnak West Java then prepared 100.
000 bottles of the vaccine.
Moreover, the official did surveilans that is observation and investigation to areas that it was suspected became the spreading point of the bird flu illness.
One of them, Kp.
/the Cigadog Village, Kec.
Cikelet, Kab.
Garut.
At first again, Euis Lina that died resulting from the bird flu illness, was the inhabitants Kp.
Cigadog.
Rachmat added, to avoid expanded him the bird flu illness, he asked the Garut Regent to tighten the poultry traffic in his territory.
Whereas the poultry traffic in the Village/Kec.
Cikelet, was forced to be closed for 30 days.
That was done to avoid expanded him the bird flu illness from or to the Village/Kec.
Cikelet.
Re: INDONESIA - Garut Cluster Part II
In the meantime, the number suspect bird flu from the Cikelet Village, improved 4 people.They were Risma (4), the citizen of the Village of Table Sand, Yana (50) the citizen Kp.Rancasalak, Ai Rohimah (10), the citizen of the Jojoh Village, and Memen (60), the citizen of the Cibeunteur Village, Dese Cikelet, Kec.Cikelet.Risma has been in RSU Dr. Slamet since struck 1.30 WIB, whereas two suspect other still was treated intensively in the Cikelet Community Health Centre.According to information, when entering RSU Dr. Slamet struck 1.30 WIB, the temperature of the Risma body has been hot high.He also complained breathless and coughs, like suspect other bird flu."My daughter experienced the fever and breathless since the last three days, that is from Wednesday (16/8)," said pious Divine Guidance (24), the father Risma.According to Divine Guidance, in fact the breathless sign if being sick, was experienced by his child when still was one year old.Therefore, his feeling was just normal when bringing his child took medicine to the Cikelet Community Health Centre.He also did not worry his child was affected by bird flu, because of the distance of his house with the Rancasalak Village or Jojoh approximately 6 km.
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However, his feeling changed after getting the notification from the doctor, the matter of his child's concern was affected by bird flu.He became frightened.On the basis of so, said he, approximately struck 23.55 WIB he with his wife, the Grandchild (20), brought Risma to RSU Dr. Slamet on Cikelet Community Health Centre reconciliation.Like that arrived approximately struck 01.30 WIB, Risma was at once placed in RSU isolation space Dr. Slamet Garut.The head of the Subdivision of Information and the Customer's Service (Kasub Bag IPP) RSU Dr. Slamet Garut, the Yogi Prayogi, confirmed the matter of the existence of the patient just was named Risma.He said, after being handled by the child's specialist doctor Dr. Manan, the condition for the Risma health gradually improved.The temperature of his body to struck 14.00 WIB, was recorded by 36.8 levels celcius, his respiration 26 times per the minute.Blood blood pressure and his pulse then already in the normal situation."Because of the Risma condition berangsung improved, we did not reconcile him to RSHS," he said.Other suspect that was run off with to RSU Dr. Slamet was Yana, that entered RSU isolation space Dr. Slamet approximately struck 18.00 WIB.About two last patients, until this was still receiving the intensive maintenance from the Cikelet Community Health Centre.Both of them, it was known experienced the sign like the person who suffered bird flu, although the temperature of the body both of them not high, and breathless as well as his cough was not serious."Both of them at this time still were handled by the team of the congenial post penangan bird flu in Cikelet."The plan is, if two people serious will be reconciled to RSU Dr. Slamet, the Cikelet Community Health Centre headword Dr. Heri Winarto.
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When being confirmed, the Sub-district Head Cikelet Jujun Juhana Kosasih had said, since spreading him bird flu in Cikelet, his side carried out the co-ordination officially related.However, said he, the handling to the level of the community apparently was waiting until becoming an epidemic."First happened it is so sensational, but after having casualties there are those that was stated positive, began to be seen incessant."That then still apparently was waiting, in fact to have been stated by KLB, he said.In the meantime, the third condition suspect bird flu that was treated in RSHS Bandung till Saturday late afternoon (19/8) improved.In the meantime, the patient's NY medical treatment.K (32) that was pregnant 14 weeks, continued dikonsultasikan with the content doctor.The managing director RSHS Bandung Prof. Dr. Dr. Cissy B. Kartasasmita Sp.A (K), M. Sc.Said, results of the PCR inspection (polymerase chain reaction) first for the patient Is (5) and S (8) pointed out the negative H5N1.However, still will be done by the PCR inspection second and third, to confirm was not him this virus."Therefore, to this afternoon we have treated 49 suspect bird flu."Seven among them confirm with five people died,", he said."In the meantime, 720 tails of the poultry and 125 eggs belonging to the citizen Jojoh, Tipar, and Rancasalak the Cikelet Kec Village.Cikelet, was destroyed on Friday (18/8).Beforehand, already dimusn ahkan 220 tails of the poultry belonging to the local citizen.The "extermination of this poultry to avoid spread him the bird flu virus in Garut generally especially Cikelet," said the Garut Regent.(A-112/A-131/A-136) </PRE>
In the meantime, the number suspect bird flu from the Cikelet Village, improved 4 people.They were Risma (4), the citizen of the Village of Table Sand, Yana (50) the citizen Kp.Rancasalak, Ai Rohimah (10), the citizen of the Jojoh Village, and Memen (60), the citizen of the Cibeunteur Village, Dese Cikelet, Kec.Cikelet.Risma has been in RSU Dr. Slamet since struck 1.30 WIB, whereas two suspect other still was treated intensively in the Cikelet Community Health Centre.According to information, when entering RSU Dr. Slamet struck 1.30 WIB, the temperature of the Risma body has been hot high.He also complained breathless and coughs, like suspect other bird flu."My daughter experienced the fever and breathless since the last three days, that is from Wednesday (16/8)," said pious Divine Guidance (24), the father Risma.According to Divine Guidance, in fact the breathless sign if being sick, was experienced by his child when still was one year old.Therefore, his feeling was just normal when bringing his child took medicine to the Cikelet Community Health Centre.He also did not worry his child was affected by bird flu, because of the distance of his house with the Rancasalak Village or Jojoh approximately 6 km.
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However, his feeling changed after getting the notification from the doctor, the matter of his child's concern was affected by bird flu.He became frightened.On the basis of so, said he, approximately struck 23.55 WIB he with his wife, the Grandchild (20), brought Risma to RSU Dr. Slamet on Cikelet Community Health Centre reconciliation.Like that arrived approximately struck 01.30 WIB, Risma was at once placed in RSU isolation space Dr. Slamet Garut.The head of the Subdivision of Information and the Customer's Service (Kasub Bag IPP) RSU Dr. Slamet Garut, the Yogi Prayogi, confirmed the matter of the existence of the patient just was named Risma.He said, after being handled by the child's specialist doctor Dr. Manan, the condition for the Risma health gradually improved.The temperature of his body to struck 14.00 WIB, was recorded by 36.8 levels celcius, his respiration 26 times per the minute.Blood blood pressure and his pulse then already in the normal situation."Because of the Risma condition berangsung improved, we did not reconcile him to RSHS," he said.Other suspect that was run off with to RSU Dr. Slamet was Yana, that entered RSU isolation space Dr. Slamet approximately struck 18.00 WIB.About two last patients, until this was still receiving the intensive maintenance from the Cikelet Community Health Centre.Both of them, it was known experienced the sign like the person who suffered bird flu, although the temperature of the body both of them not high, and breathless as well as his cough was not serious."Both of them at this time still were handled by the team of the congenial post penangan bird flu in Cikelet."The plan is, if two people serious will be reconciled to RSU Dr. Slamet, the Cikelet Community Health Centre headword Dr. Heri Winarto.
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When being confirmed, the Sub-district Head Cikelet Jujun Juhana Kosasih had said, since spreading him bird flu in Cikelet, his side carried out the co-ordination officially related.However, said he, the handling to the level of the community apparently was waiting until becoming an epidemic."First happened it is so sensational, but after having casualties there are those that was stated positive, began to be seen incessant."That then still apparently was waiting, in fact to have been stated by KLB, he said.In the meantime, the third condition suspect bird flu that was treated in RSHS Bandung till Saturday late afternoon (19/8) improved.In the meantime, the patient's NY medical treatment.K (32) that was pregnant 14 weeks, continued dikonsultasikan with the content doctor.The managing director RSHS Bandung Prof. Dr. Dr. Cissy B. Kartasasmita Sp.A (K), M. Sc.Said, results of the PCR inspection (polymerase chain reaction) first for the patient Is (5) and S (8) pointed out the negative H5N1.However, still will be done by the PCR inspection second and third, to confirm was not him this virus."Therefore, to this afternoon we have treated 49 suspect bird flu."Seven among them confirm with five people died,", he said."In the meantime, 720 tails of the poultry and 125 eggs belonging to the citizen Jojoh, Tipar, and Rancasalak the Cikelet Kec Village.Cikelet, was destroyed on Friday (18/8).Beforehand, already dimusn ahkan 220 tails of the poultry belonging to the local citizen.The "extermination of this poultry to avoid spread him the bird flu virus in Garut generally especially Cikelet," said the Garut Regent.(A-112/A-131/A-136) </PRE>
Commonground
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Re: INDONESIA - Garut Cluster Part II
Well, I just read Theresa42 & Niman trying to figure out the cluster. And we wonder why Indonesia says there is no cluster? They can't figure it out either.
I have used up all my allocated brain cells for the day, so I can't help you.....
Well, I just read Theresa42 & Niman trying to figure out the cluster. And we wonder why Indonesia says there is no cluster? They can't figure it out either.
I have used up all my allocated brain cells for the day, so I can't help you.....
Re: INDONESIA - Garut Cluster Part II
?AI? in Garut not ?Cluster? BaruJakarta, (HOMEWORK).- Health Minister Siti Fadilah Supari said, his side was still researching the kind of the bird flu virus (Avian influenza) that was found in the Cikelet Village, Kab.Garut.However, he was convinced the virus not cluster just."We were still researching this virus kind, hopefully the negative."From the sufferers, all of them the negative, said Menkes, ended the appointment of the Red PRIMARY SCHOOL White belonging to Seto Mulyadi in the Socket Valley, Jakarta, on Saturday (19/8).Although the negative, Menkes stressed that the Department of Health continued to be on the alert because the bird flu patient the last few days continued to improve."Overnight had the mother was pregnant."Now still was checked and indeed had signs of the pneumonia illness (the inflammation of the lungs).But, hopefully the negative, not bird flu, said Menkes.When being asked about the possibility of this virus of spreading to the baby who was contained by the mother that tertular the bird flu virus, Menkes claimed, himself did not know.However, he promised to continue to monitor him."Monitored by us then."It was not yet that knew because of not yet having the incident like that, he said.Asked about Umar, suspect bird flu from Cikelet, that did not want to be brought to the hospital, Menkes said, his side could not punish this child with Plague UU.The reason is, he did not spread the plague.Number UU 4 in 1984 about the Plague.This UU was applied by the government to deal with the spread of the infection of the bird flu virus.The citizen who obstructed government efforts to deal with the plague of bird flu was threatened 1 prison year and the Rp fine 1 million.In the meantime, the Director General of the Eradication of infectious diseases and environmental Sanitation (P3L) the Department of Health, I Nyoman Kandun said, his team will immediately vaccinate villagers Cikelet, the place of the plague happened.The vaccination tamiflu will be done for 10 days.(A-83) </PRE>
http://www.pikiran-rakyat.com/cetak/2006/082006/20/0104.htm</PRE>
?AI? in Garut not ?Cluster? BaruJakarta, (HOMEWORK).- Health Minister Siti Fadilah Supari said, his side was still researching the kind of the bird flu virus (Avian influenza) that was found in the Cikelet Village, Kab.Garut.However, he was convinced the virus not cluster just."We were still researching this virus kind, hopefully the negative."From the sufferers, all of them the negative, said Menkes, ended the appointment of the Red PRIMARY SCHOOL White belonging to Seto Mulyadi in the Socket Valley, Jakarta, on Saturday (19/8).Although the negative, Menkes stressed that the Department of Health continued to be on the alert because the bird flu patient the last few days continued to improve."Overnight had the mother was pregnant."Now still was checked and indeed had signs of the pneumonia illness (the inflammation of the lungs).But, hopefully the negative, not bird flu, said Menkes.When being asked about the possibility of this virus of spreading to the baby who was contained by the mother that tertular the bird flu virus, Menkes claimed, himself did not know.However, he promised to continue to monitor him."Monitored by us then."It was not yet that knew because of not yet having the incident like that, he said.Asked about Umar, suspect bird flu from Cikelet, that did not want to be brought to the hospital, Menkes said, his side could not punish this child with Plague UU.The reason is, he did not spread the plague.Number UU 4 in 1984 about the Plague.This UU was applied by the government to deal with the spread of the infection of the bird flu virus.The citizen who obstructed government efforts to deal with the plague of bird flu was threatened 1 prison year and the Rp fine 1 million.In the meantime, the Director General of the Eradication of infectious diseases and environmental Sanitation (P3L) the Department of Health, I Nyoman Kandun said, his team will immediately vaccinate villagers Cikelet, the place of the plague happened.The vaccination tamiflu will be done for 10 days.(A-83) </PRE>
http://www.pikiran-rakyat.com/cetak/2006/082006/20/0104.htm</PRE>
Theresa42
Well-known member
Re: INDONESIA - Garut Cluster Part II
Reiteration:
Misbah (dead), Rubiah (dead), Risman and probably (at least) one other sibling are all bf suspects from one household. And, they are all Umar's cousins.
Neither Misbah nor Rubiah were tested. Risman's in the hospital, so presumably being tested. Reports are that another sibling(s) of Risman had symptoms and are being tested.
Reiteration:
"the Lamp" = Misbahniman said:
(^ that's the passage in Indonesian from the article in post #62)
Misbah (dead), Rubiah (dead), Risman and probably (at least) one other sibling are all bf suspects from one household. And, they are all Umar's cousins.
Neither Misbah nor Rubiah were tested. Risman's in the hospital, so presumably being tested. Reports are that another sibling(s) of Risman had symptoms and are being tested.
Theresa42
Well-known member
Re: INDONESIA - Garut Cluster Part II
Wait!!! Dr. Niman -- my head is going in circles!
Risma is a new patient! Risma is not Risman.
Risma is 4 and is from Pasir Meja. Edit: "the distance of his house with the Rancasalak Village or Jojoh approximately 6 km"
Risman, 5, the citizen of the Rancamareme Village:
http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26434&postcount=62
Edit: You got Risma from that last article you posted: The patient ”Suspect” Bird Flu improved 4 Orang. For "improved" you need to read "increased" -- the number of suspected bf patients increased by 4 -- Risma is a new case.
Wait!!! Dr. Niman -- my head is going in circles!
Risma is a new patient! Risma is not Risman.
Risma is 4 and is from Pasir Meja. Edit: "the distance of his house with the Rancasalak Village or Jojoh approximately 6 km"
Risman, 5, the citizen of the Rancamareme Village:
http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=26434&postcount=62
Edit: You got Risma from that last article you posted: The patient ”Suspect” Bird Flu improved 4 Orang. For "improved" you need to read "increased" -- the number of suspected bf patients increased by 4 -- Risma is a new case.
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