Implications ????

[Snowy Owl]

Mosquitos resistentes al frío

“El mosquito muta como cualquier insecto, y de acuerdo a algunos estudios que hemos realizado, las bajas temperaturas ya no le afectan, porque sufre mutaciones que lo hacen resistente, lo que indica que la enfermedad sigue aquí y que no se ha ido”

http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?p=136306#post136306

Mosquitoes resistant to cold,
We do have a Expert on Mosquitoes and some of us have some knowledge about them.

What are the implications of this as a vector that come early to work and do some overtime ???

Snowy

 

[tropical]

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Hi Snowy,

"What are the implications of this as a vector that come early to work and do some overtime ???"

New spreading areas for mosquito vector related illnesses.

 

[Snowy Owl]

Re: Implications ????

Hi Snowy,

"What are the implications of this as a vector that come early to work and do some overtime ???"

New spreading areas for mosquito vector related illnesses.

Tropical, Up-Here, in Vinland, America North East, our Bats are dying by thousands, wich leads me to ramp up education campaing.

As for you Europa, the Chick is coming in a village near ya.

Mosquitoes protection is important, what about the fishes aside getting rid of stagnant water.

 

[tropical]

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Tropical, Up-Here, in Vinland, America North East, our Bats are dying by thousands, wich leads me to ramp up education campaing.

As for you Europa, the Chick is coming in a village near ya.

Mosquitoes protection is important, what about the fishes aside getting rid of stagnant water.

Unfortunately, looking at the "those groups" stamp to every human that think an healthy environment is a natural best protection barrier for many animal and human illnesses, bats, like frogs/butterfly/.../, and humans, will not have many chances ...
Some folks thinks that they can doing well living shielded by concrete walls, but that feeling will change if they must be into permanently.

Like previously posted here at FT, some fishes eat mosquitos, and that's good, but seems that it's not enaugh, because in the mud aside there are plenty of those little vampires, and many can breed even in low salted water ponds.

Worst is that Chickung. story, because the tiger ousted the old species, and it is very agresive, spreading from the grass, or vans, daylight also.

Now, when the spreading is more far north, animals and people probably will go back to the pre-bonification times.

For those already living besides swamps ...
maybe the idea of insert a sterilized new version of mosquito will not result in a catastrophe (like some previous new species insertions).

 

[Amish Country]

Re: Implications ????

It has been reported that mosquitoes and some flies can carry N5H1. Is there any research being done on ticks, chiggers, bed bugs and fleas? Mostly the fleas and ticks. Fleas because they already have a bad reputation for spreading plague and ticks because they need an additional "host" before reaching maturity hence potential another animal of different species in the flu chain.

It might not be a bad idea to add mosquito netting to the prep lists. Also more vegetable oil. Mosquito larva can not reach maturity in water with a thin film of oil. A coating of veggie oil in the stagnate swimming pool may be messy but no where near as dangerous to health or the environment as petroleum based oils if there is a pandemic.

There was a report on TV about putting mosquito eating fish into swimming pools of abandoned properties in Louisiana to help control the little blood suckers. Here is a link to a National Geographic article on that subject.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/07/060725-katrina.html

One of the problems with bats at this time of year is that they are hibernating and if anything wakes them up they may not have the fat reserves to go back into hibernation and make it to spring when the insects are out. Maybe it is time to think about hanging up purple martin gourds and a few blue bird boxes? It is neat to watch bats fliting and dipping in the sky after bugs on warm summer evenings. Hopefully they will survive this fungus or what ever that is attacking them.

 

[Snowy Owl]

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Thank you very much Amish Country, a thin ointment on stagnant water dont allow mosquitoes larvaes to take their flight.

..as for Bats, from the reports I have read (about 6 to 8) it is quaint to say the least, so I bend towards lets wait and see a week or so.

The Net is a consequent must, it is cheap and could be soo appreciated if it becomes weird.

Thanks again AC
Snowy


After the Gathering of Montréal we should know better.

Snowy

 

[AlaskaDenise]

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Don't forget that dragonflies and swallows also eat mosquitos.

I've seen a noticable mosquito decline once the above predators arrive. Dragonfies are reported to eat about 100 mosquitos & larvae every 30 minutes.

BTW - mosquitos in the far north are active 24 hrs./day, so birds active during the day can feed on them.

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[tropical]

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In my sector, nor the many birds/bats, nor dragonflies was able to weaped off the tiger.

Welcome the birds, and so on, but seems that only the vet desinfection spraying with chemical inactivation of the eggs in the various water containers deminished enaugh their number.

Remember that the tiger mosquito can breed in many places with minimal water, even in the wet grass (I don't think that I will spray cans of oil over the whole..., plus, old oil tends to smell).

Seems that with spraying, birds, etc., very useful was the fate: if the current season weather situation is sunny. In a very dry season the numbers are much smaller.

 

[Amish Country]

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Can cattle get H5N1? Would this mean that H5N1 could be spread in cow's milk? Would the pasteurization process kill the flu virus if the cows did get it? Would people have to be concerned about catching N5H1 from handling raw pork and beef? Talk about implications. Can you imagine Micky D's without hamburger and chocolate shakes!

Will this also mean that is will not be safe to let pets out even under controlled conditions? Will we also have to get repellent for our pets? Would the pet medication that dogs take orally to prevent ticks work also against mosquitoes?

 

[tropical]

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Can cattle get H5N1? Would this mean that H5N1 could be spread in cow's milk? Would the pasteurization process kill the flu virus if the cows did get it? Would people have to be concerned about catching N5H1 from handling raw pork and beef? Talk about implications. Can you imagine Micky D's without hamburger and chocolate shakes!

Will this also mean that is will not be safe to let pets out even under controlled conditions? Will we also have to get repellent for our pets? Would the pet medication that dogs take orally to prevent ticks work also against mosquitoes?

From personal experience I can tell you that you can be quite sure that (like it is for other bugs) your pets wil have a bunch of tigers on their body sucking blood. You can only spray them.

I don't think that the oral anti-accar worked, but probable the vets have some universal anti-bug liquid chemical to spray on.

Other thing is how is it toxic. I was sprayed some bug-repellent onto veg-lices on the roses - the whole main staple of the rose dying - completely murking grey, and dried on.
We can read many studies of the high toxicity of the hause-based sprayed chemicals.

The safety of pets will unfortunately depends more on their robustness to the illness, because I doubt that the majority will keept them indoor.

The researchers knows better, but I think I'm not wrong if I said that:
If even the whales can get it, the cattle also.
H5N1 will spread in cow's milk because the virus is founded in multiple organs.
Would the pasteurization process kill the flu virus if the cows did get it - I think it will (probably other viruses are present in a cow raw milk also).

Would people have to be concerned about catching N5H1 from handling raw pork and beef? Now - I don't think so.

If the illness spread to them as a species, than absolutely, that's the main contact way of catch it from the poultry, sniffing poultry dust excluded.

"Can you imagine Micky D's without hamburger and chocolate shakes!"
I can imagine it easy, because at the times of mad cow disease, the hamburgers are not so much welcomed in England ...

 

[Amish Country]

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Bug repellents for animals can be a problem especially for animals like cats and dogs that lick and bite their fur.

I had a horse that was allergic to a bug repellent. It caused hair on his face to fall out. There is something pathetic about a bald horse. I used a solution of Avon Skin So Soft (a bath oil) and water on the horse instead. It seemed to work against regular mosquitoes. I used it on his head and ears where his skin was thiner and bugs tended to bite and bother the animal more. It did not work on deer flies and I do not know how well it would work on tiger mosquitoes. A horse or cow is a lot of animal to cover with repellent.

 

[Snowy Owl]

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I had a girldfriend who was a breeder, she used Lavender in the ears of the cats & dogs and they never had any problems with bugs.

Snowy

 

[tropical]

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I had a girldfriend who was a breeder, she used Lavender in the ears of the cats & dogs and they never had any problems with bugs.

Snowy

God to know, Snowy. Thanks.
___

Did it work with human ears and the tiger mosquito?

If yes, that would be an step forward ...

 

[mixin]

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There are some essential oil based products that are said to work as well as the commercial types in repelling mosquitoes. I purchased one from the place where I buy other essential oils and asked my friend's husband to test it against his store bought brand. He thought it was as effective and preferred the scent.

Be careful about what essential oil products go on animals that lick their fur. I used vaseline on my horses' ears as well as other tender spots to protect them from fly bites and commercial sprays (as well as Avon) for insects in general.

 

[Amish Country]

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I called down to the Everglades National Park and talked to one of the park personnel about what they do in that area to help prevent mosquito bites. This is what came out of the conversation:

The person I talked to used bug repellents with Deet.

The person I talked to had developed sensitivity to Deet and when it was inevitable that they had to go out in mosquito weather they sprayed their clothing not their skin.

Repellent may have to be reapplied every 6 to 8 hours or more depending on how much they sweet.

They mentioned some people down there do use Avon Skin So Soft. The person I talked to did not like the smell of it and did not use it.

They also wore long sleeves and baggy lightweight clothing along with socks and shoes. Bugs cannot bite skin they cannot get to. They said if they sweet heavily the material would stick to their skin and they would get bit. They said that mosquitoes had trouble biting them thru really thick blue jeans.

A sheet of Bounce Fabric Softener in the pocket did not work for this person.

They used mosquito netting at night and sewed shear fabric to the netting to keep out the no-see-ums before the invention of No-see-um screens.

Head nets and Bug shoo jackets were also mentioned.

They tried staying out of the shade and grass to help avoid getting bitten. They said the mosquitoes do not like hot and they would mow their grass in the hot sun. Heat stroke and dehydrations were conditions they also carefully monitored for.

They stated they used chlorine tablets in their pond to kill mosquitoes and frogs. - I am not sure this is legal or recommended in all areas. This is the first time I have heard of using chlorine to kill mosquitoes in water. (I also assume this is on their private property and not in the park)

They mentioned in their area the local government could be contacted to request mosquito straying if the bugs get too bad.

They got rid of stagnate, standing water around their home whenever possible.

They mentioned staying in doors as much as possible when the bugs were very bad. Also they checked for and patched holes in screens etc. where mosquitoes might get in.

Please bump this to mosquito/bug bite prevention if more appropriate.

 

[tropical]

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... The person I talked to used bug repellents with Deet.
... they sprayed their clothing not their skin.
Repellent may have to be reapplied every 6 to 8 hours or more depending on how much they sweet.
... They also wore long sleeves and baggy lightweight clothing along with socks and shoes. Bugs cannot bite skin they cannot get to. They said if they sweet heavily the material would stick to their skin and they would get bit. ...
They used mosquito netting at night and sewed shear fabric to the netting to keep out the no-see-ums before the invention of No-see-um screens.
Head nets and Bug shoo jackets were also mentioned.
They tried staying out of the shade and grass to help avoid getting bitten. They said the mosquitoes do not like hot and they would mow their grass in the hot sun.
...
They stated they used chlorine tablets in their pond to kill mosquitoes and frogs. ...
They mentioned in their area the local government could be contacted to request mosquito straying if the bugs get too bad.
They got rid of stagnate, standing water around their home whenever possible.
They mentioned staying in doors as much as possible when the bugs were very bad. ...

Cong. Amish C.,
like we all can see from the source (wetland personnel), the hard reality is that without insecticides, and larvicides, it will be a hard job.

Like I said previously:
From personal experience I can tell you that you can be quite sure that (like it is for other bugs) your pets wil have a bunch of tigers on their body sucking blood. You can only spray them.
For the seguent: "... lightweight clothing ...", I must say that for the tiger you must have "hard"weight clothing, because they can byte well through the lightweight if it's not sprayed with repellent.

For the question:
"They stated they used chlorine tablets in their pond to kill mosquitoes and frogs."
The frogs are our allies because they eat them, it's not necessary kill them if it's kind are not toxic, and that's not a drinking water pond.
Exists tablets for mosquito killing which are unharmfull for other animals, but for frogs, and others from the same species, I'm not shure.