• FluTrackers.com Inc. does not provide medical advice. Information on this web site is collected from various internet resources, and the FluTrackers board of directors makes no warranty to the safety, efficacy, correctness or completeness of the information posted on this site by any author or poster. The information collated here is for instructional and/or discussion purposes only and is NOT intended to diagnose or treat any disease, illness, or other medical condition. Every individual reader or poster should seek advice from their personal physician/healthcare practitioner before considering or using any interventions that are discussed on this website. By continuing to access this website you agree to consult your personal physican before using any interventions posted on this website, and you agree to hold harmless FluTrackers.com Inc., the board of directors, the members, and all authors and posters for any effects from use of any medication, supplement, vitamin or other substance, device, intervention, etc. mentioned in posts on this website, or other internet venues referenced in posts on this website.
  • We are not asking for any donations. Do not donate to any entity who says they are raising funds for us.

Food storage preps

Mellie

Well-known member
Comprehensive list of food and emergency items for a year.

This list created by wildland firefighters.
If you want food for 3 months, divide by 4.
Remember to buy what you like to eat and cycle through your pantry.

http://www.wildlandfire.com/docs/2005/food05.htm

FOOD LIST and other Necessities for a Year
Seneca said: "Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity." (He lived 5 BC-65 AD.)
Adults need about 2000 calories a day, (cost ~ $2,400 for family of 4 for a year).
The quantities below are estimates for 1 adult for a year. Divide by four to get number for one person for 3 months.
Consider your plan for power outage in terms of refrigeration and cooking.
Consider a water supply for drinking and for washing.
Obtain a 3 month supply of Rx meds.​
GRAINS

300 pounds per person.
Notes: rolled oats, corn meal, cracked wheat for tabouli, rice, triticale, mixes.
To remove weevils and other bugs: Diatomaceous earth or freeze the pkg overnight. Put a stick of unwrapped spearmint gum or some unwrapped peppermints in each package if you take large quantities and repackage them into smaller allotments.
Manual and electrical grain grinders if you buy whole wheat berries that will need grinding.
Muesli -- get recipe.
Bread recipes. Get yeast. Start a sourdough culture.

Rice -- package in 10, 15 or 20 pound packages.

Flour --100 pounds per person.
(Counts as part of the 300 lb grain recommendation.)
Masa harina -- corn flour for tortillas
Falafel mix
Wheat berries (hard red winter wheat) – or cracked wheat berries for tabouli
Cornmeal --
Triticale flour – higher in protein than wheat
Popcorn --

Crackers -- package in metal containers
Mixes -- pancake, muffin, cake, cookie mixes or make your own
Pasta -- elbow macaroni, spiral noodles, pouch noodles (Ramen)- buy on sale; mac and cheese; pasta and the boxed “dinners” on sale

FRUITS

100 pounds per person.
Notes: this should be a combination of fresh, canned, dried, and juices; consider raisins for cookies or snacks.
Get and plant fruit trees.

Nuts -- 2 pounds per person
Dry-roasted keep best; freeze the bagged ones if you have room; buy on sale after the holidays.
Peanuts
Almonds for cookies
Peanut butter -- 10 pounds per person
Tahini (ground sesame seeds) for some Middle Eastern dishes

Dried Fruit
Raisins, prunes, figs, date pieces, dried cranberries
Mangoes
Apricots
Etc, whatever you can find

Canned Fruit #10 cans and smaller
(Cash & Carry, Costco, Sam's Club, Grocery Outlet type stores)
Peaches, applesauce, pears, pineapple chunks
Fruit ****tail
Lemon juice
Canned & bottled juices
Tang

Fresh
Apples, pears in season; don’t forget that Myers lemon tree
Whatever other fresh veggies you can get at the last minute.

VEGGIES

150 pounds per person.

Notes: this should be a combination of dried, canned, and fresh.
Get heritage seeds for planting your own.
Cilantro, parsley, greens for vitamins.
Get vitamins: multiple; C; calcium plus D plus zinc
Get canning jars; get rims and sealers; canning pressure cooker?
Make sure have enough vinegar, salt and sugar, pectin & agar, spices for pickles, jellies, etc.
Cilantro, parsley, greens for vitamins.
Dried pasilla peppers, jalapenos, etc.

Dried beans and peas – 60 to 100 pounds per person.
Small white beans --
Pinto beans --
Large red beans --
Garbanzo beans --
Small white (Navy) beans --
Lima beans --
Fava beans --
Black beans --
Split peas --
Lentils --
Hummus mix -- (ground garbanzo beans and spices)
Falafel mix --

Canned #10 cans and smaller
Beans -- Green beans, Yellow beans, Lima beans, etc
Tomatoes -- Whole tomatoes, Italian, Sauce, Paste, prepared spaghetti sauce
Beets
Carrots
Corn
Sweet peas
Artichoke hearts
Tomatillos
Greens -- chard, kale, spinach, etc
Mixed veggies
Potatoes
Sauerkraut (source of vitamin C)
Olives
Mushrooms
Pickles

Bulk SPICES and to grow
Onion
Peppers, green, all varieties of Mexican to eat and grow
Garlic, powder and the also wet garlic in a jar
Basil
Cardamom
Cinnamon
Vanilla
Oregano, thyme, sage, rosemary, chives, etc plants

Fresh VEGGIES
Potatoes to eat and for seed
Onions
Carrots
Beets (without greens)
Turnips or rutabagas
Garlic to eat and for seed
Lettuce & greens (Russian kale, Arugula to grow)
Whatever other fresh veggies you can get at the last minute.

SOUPS and other VEGGIE/MEAT MIXES
Mushroom Soup
Chili
Clam Chowder
Bullion cubes
Dry onion soup mix
Ramen Noodles & Dry soup mixes, all you need is water & heat in a little pot.

MEATS, FISH, CHEESE, MILK

Milk, packaged non-fat powdered and evaporated in cans
Homemade yogurt from powdered milk, easy.
#10 cans of chili without beans
Canned spam-mystery meat???
Canned ham (? requires refrigeration)
Dried beef? Jerky? Salami, pre-cooked bacon (Costco)
Tuna
Large bricks or rounds of cheese of different kinds (waxed covers)
Parmesan, Romano, etc - fairly dry cheese, keeps well.
If have freezer, can have frozen meats, etc. Power goes out, eat that first or smoke it.
Beef, lamb, goat etc on the hoof if you have grazing land.
Deer, bear with appropriate permits of course (Bear - soak in brine overnight; cook it well – trichina parasite killed by cooking until very well done)

Vegetable and Olive OIL – 20 pounds per person good quality

Vinegar -- 2 gal per person 4 gal per person if pickling

Iodized salt -- 10 -1 pound containers

Non-iodized salt -- pickling, couple sacks from Costco
Pepper – couple of lg boxes Sugar -- 60-100 pounds per person
Jam, pancake syrup, molasses, honey
Hard candy -- leftover from Halloween/Christmas

Condiments
Mustard
Mayo
Ketchup
Relish
Soy Sauce, Dr Bronners, Worchestershire
El Pato hot sauce in cans, Tapatilo hot sauce, Sriracha Hot Chili Sauce
Nutritional yeast for popcorn
Bullion cubes, bullion powder
Bread-making yeast
Beer-making yeast if you do that
Wine-making starter if you do that
Jams/Jellies – pectin, sugar, jars, sealers, rims if canning
Baking Soda -- 3 pounds per person
Baking Powder, Cornstarch -- 2 pounds apiece per person

Coffee, Tea, Cocoa, Spiced Cider mix

Canning Supplies (if you live in an area where you can grow a garden)

Check jar supply -- buy new or get canning jars at thrift shop?
Bands and dome lids. (On sale as canning season ends.)
Large canning pressure cooker?
Large pots with racks for sterilizing jars and cooking fruit, etc
Tongs, jar grippers, small knives for lifting boiling sealers, etc
Make sure have enough vinegar, canning salt and sugar, pectin & agar, spices for pickles, jellies, etc
Sealer machine and lots of baggies for readying food for freezing or grains & beans for airtight storage (? Costco)
Zip lock bags, Freezer bags, Aluminum foil, Waxed paper, Paper towels
Containers of all sizes
Large rodent proof containers for caching
Duct tape

Cleaning Supplies -

Laundry, Hand, Dish (and Dishwasher) soaps
Detergents, chlorine
Liquid Household Bleach -- only active ingredient should be 5.25 sodium hypochlorate if you use it for water purification; To purify water: 16 drops per gallon, let stand 30 min then repeat with 16 more drops and let stand 15 minutes. (CDC website) MORE BLEACH IS NOT BETTER. IT CAN KILL YOU!
(Need 1 gal/person if only regular use in a year; maybe 3-4 gal more if needed for water purification and cleaning surfaces as well; if disinfecting, make only enough in solution to use within a 4 hr period)
alternative to liquid bleach is powdered Calcium Hypochlorate with no additives (obtain it at some pool stores)
Hospital grade disinfectant
Laundry Soap -- 1 Tub per person at Costco (best value)
Cord, twine, light rope (clothesline), clothes pins
13 gallon trash bags
33 gallon black bags, for garbage or whatever
Clean rags
Purell & trigger pump spray bottles with ratio of 100 parts water to1 part sodium hypochlorate (bleach) or 70% alcohol to disinfect surfaces. No aerosol spray. It blows viruses around.
Laundry notes: If washing low temp (< 70degrees), use chlorine 50-150 ppm during the bleach cycle to sterilize.

Medicine Chest – First Aid - Hygiene

Some ideas:
Pepto Bismol – upset stomach, diarrhea, nausea
Immodium
Kaopectate
Ipicac, activated charcoal - poisoning
Cough Syrup natural= some kind of alcoholic liqueur
Ibuprofin, Acetominophin, Aspirin
Sunscreen
Insect repellant
Rubbing Alcohol
Peroxide
Fels Naptha & Technu for poison oak, also -alcohol tincture of comfrey, goldenseal and myrrh (topical poison oak remedy)
Band-aids, Antibiotic ointment, Zinc oxide ointment, Ace bandages, Steri strips, gauze squares, etc
Aloe vera plant
PPE for caregiver: N95 respirator masks (3M 9211 model – lightweight fits adults and kids), (better yet masks N100, full and half) goggles, plastic shower caps, tyvek clothing, nitrile gloves, shoe covers, consider rubber boots that can be disinfected after leaving patient area; directions for and practice at setting up decontamination room barrier between patient room and living space. Need to shower, etc – see publication on barrier nursing). Duct tape

Toothpaste, toothbrushes, Glide, little floss toothpicks
Q tips
Fingernail clippers, little scissors
Haircutting clippers
Feminine products
Razors, shaving cream (masks require clean shaven to make the seal)
Shampoo, Conditioner
Hand soap 15 bars /year/person -not germicidal. (Wash hands to the Alphabet song for fun. In other words, wash thoroughly for at least 25 to 30 sec duration.)
Lotion (not germicidal)
Liquid soap (not germicidal)
Alcohol towelettes
Toilet paper – 1 roll per week per person (2 Costco bundles per person)

Sewing Kit

Thread, needles, pins, SAFETY PINS of all sizes, buttons, snaps, zippers, Velcro, tape measure, scissors, sewing machine, iron on patches, denim for patching pants

Miscellaneous

Generator and gas (gas can only be stored for 6 months before it "goes bad"). Additive to extend gas life.
Most natural gas stoves can be switched to propane. Make sure yours has that adaptor and that you have propane.
Chainsaw gas and oil, extra chains, sharpening tools, check PPE
Kerosene, lamps, extra wicks and chimneys
Wooden strike-anywhere matches, cardboard matches, candles, flint & steel
Locking gas cap on your car, siphoning apparatus to be able to access the gas in your car for other purposes, like running a generator.
Replacement water filters (We need 50 microns and 10 microns for our systems since some of us are not on city water.)
Supplies to create a catchment for collecting rain water if you live in an area without other water supply if electricity goes out. There are also ways to collect water overnight in arid areas.
Rope
Nails
Duct tape
Non-electric can opener
Utility knife
Corkscrew, bottle opener
Flashlights, rechargeable batteries, recharger to run if you have electricity
Rifles, ammunition for hunting, hunting permit
Fishing poles, line, hooks and gear, permit
Ham radio?
Wire ties, excellent fastener in a pinch. The modern day replacement for bailing wire, although any soft steel wire will work too.
Those plastic "ties" the cops use for on-the-spot handcuffs; good for repairing lots of things.
Clamshell & AA Batteries for your VHF radio. If the infrastructure collapses, the LOCAL guys will still be around and still trying to make sense of everything. You know what they say about communication...
Seeds, for the garden; purchase Heritage seeds that propagate true, that is so you can gather seeds from one year's crop for the next year's planting

Personal Notes...

Omega 3 Fatty Acids said to help prevent cytokine storm.
95% Curcumin powder - sold as Turmeric (encapsulate curcumin or buy it in caps example, Nature's Way Turmeric) and piperin (or extra pepper) that helps curcumin uptake. Reportedly another cytokine storm suppressant.
Benadryl or generic equivalent - thought to reduce the cytokine storm; generic is available at Costco
Avoid Echinacia as it is thought to contribute to cytokine storm.
Elderberry extract (Sambucol) is reportedly an immune enhancer prior to infection; can buy at health food stores or dried berries (buy online or buy local) & soak in 80 proof Vodka – yeah man! Discontinue this if you become ill as it may contribute to the cytokine storm; resume after illness.
Willamette Valley Pinot Noir (full cluster) wine 2004 & 2002 and some northern CA pinot noirs; contain Reservatrol - an antioxidant thought important in immune function and in knocking the virus back...
For those who are prescribed tamiflu or relenza (or amantadine or rimantidine) which are antivirals -- in association with their healthcare worker status, ask your doc if he/she knows about probenecid, a drug used during WWII to extend the retention in the body of prescribed drugs in short supply. Also note: some of the different strains of H5N1 have resistance to one of the four antivirals listed above, so which strain goes pandemic will influence which treatment might work. Regardless of possible government assurances, few courses of antivirals are available for anyone and their production abroad is backlogged. No effective vaccine to pandemic H5N1 is available.



Simpler food list - ideas - from Hotshot's mom.

http://www.wildlandfire.com/docs/2006/food06.htm
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Re: Food storage preps

Here is another site with a great list.
www.planforflu.com

I thing that this site area has another Thread dedicated to this subject under preparing for the flu -valuable links.

SURVIVAL GROCERY LIST

We take the grocery store for granted. In the event of a panic (like the first case of bird flu in the USA), just think how very few frightened shoppers that it would take for your neighborhood grocery to run out of a product like rice. A few determinined families could take most of it! The stores could be stripped bare in minutes. Our advice is not to wait.

We made our list based on shelf life, availability, and price. We then researched recipes to find the products most commonly used. Cross-off what you or your kids dislike. Be cautious of big sizes of perishables, since waste will quickly nullify any savings. Some items have a long shelf life, but must be used quickly after opening. Perishables might be available for a short time, but this list is comprised of storage foods, those that can be stored for many months or for years. Check every expiration date- we found same brand bags of flour (on the same shelf) with a two-year difference in the expiration date!

This list probably contains some items that you usually try to avoid. A lady checking me out in the grocery store noticed that I was buying a lot of sugar and flour (on sale for a good price). She haughtily informed me her children do not eat sugar, or much flour. I asked her what her kids would eat if the food supply were interrupted, like in hurricane Katrina. She said they would eat fresh vegetables. I wonder where she thought the fresh vegetables would come from?

Try to "rotate" a decent supply of food and still always have plenty on hand in case of an emergency. But many of these items have a very long shelf life, and can be used strictly as emergency storage. This list is designed for some variety, so that the kids and teens in our "pod" don't meltdown from boredom. No one can tell you how much to buy, but try to work your way toward a three month supply.

Of course, you probably won't go out and buy all of this. Realistically, if you had to, you could purchase only bulk size bags of rice, dried beans, flour, some shortening, possibly corn, along with some source of Vitamin C. You could last a very long time for very little money. For very basic survival, we would recommend that you have your water filter, cooking supplies, and a way to stay warm before an elaborate variety of food- but better food (and some games) will be a real help in an extended "lock-down".

Emergency Pantry: The List

Baking mixes (Pie crust mix plus canned pie filling =cobbler)
Baking powder
Baking soda
Barley
Bay leaves (delicious in beans, and insects avoid foods like flour with a bay leaf stored inside the bag)
Beans-dry
Bottled drinks and juices (not refrigerated type)
Brown Sugar
Bullion, concentrated broth
Butter flavoring, like Molly McButter. Freeze for storage if you can.
Candy
Canned beans
Canned broth
Canned chicken breast
Canned chili
Canned diced tomatoes, other tomato products, and sauces
Canned French fried onions for green bean casserole
Canned fruit
Canned milk, evaporated milk
Canned pie filling (don't overlook, great item)
Canned pumpkin
Canned Salmon
Canned soups
Canned stew
Canned sweet potatoes
Canned Tuna
Canned veggies
Cans of lemonade mix, other canned dry drink mixes
Cheese dips in jars
Cheese soups, like cheddar, broccoli cheese, and jack cheese
Chinese food ingredients
Chocolate bars
Chocolate chips
Chocolate syrup, strawberry syrup squeeze bottles (about that dry milk, again)
Coffee filters (also for straining silt out of water)
Corn Masa de Harina or corn tortilla mix
Corn meal
Corn starch for thickening
Cream of Wheat
Cream soups (good for flavoring rice & pasta, too)
Crisco
Dried eggs
Dried fruit
Dried onion (big containers at warehouse stores)
Dried soups
Dry cocoa
Dry coffee creamer (big sealed cans, many uses including making dry milk taste better)
Dry milk powder
Dry Mustard
Flour, self rising flour Flour tortilla mix for flour tortillas, wraps, and flatbread
Garlic powder
Granola bars (not great shelf life)
Hard candy
Honey (also reputed to reduce viral load in throat and esophagus)
Hot chocolate mix
Instant coffee if you drink it, or coffee and a manual drip cone or similar
Instant mashed potatoes
Jarred or canned spaghetti sauce
Jarred peppers
Jellies and Jams
Jerky
Ketchup
Kool Aid
Lard, Manteca (good in beans, substitute for bacon or salt pork, tortilla making, many other uses)
Large packages dry pasta, thinner type saves fuel
Marshmallow cream
Marshmallows
Mayo packets from warehouse store, if you must, not really a good value.
Mexican food ingredients
Mustard
Nestle Table Cream (substitute for sour cream, cream, or half-and-half) in lots of ethnic stores, including British)
Nuts (freeze if you have room)
Oatmeal
Oil (Shelf life not great, freeze if you have room)
Olive oil
Olives, green and black
Onion powder
Packaged bread crumbs
Pancake mix, one step, and other mixes that already have the eggs in them
Parmesan
Peanut butter, nut butters
Pepper
Pet food
Pickles, relish (not refrigerator case type)
Powdered sugar
Power bars
Raisins
Ramen
Ravioli or any canned pasta you can stand
Real butter or favorite margarine-keep frozen until disaster if you can. Butter keeps a long time in cool temps)
Rice (cheap and filling)
Salsa and hot sauces (Franks Hot Sauce!)
Salt
Spam or Treet :( !
Spices and herbs your family likes
Stovetop Dressing mix
Sugar
Summer sausage ( cheaper around holidays)
Sweetened condensed milk
Syrups
Tea
Trail mix
Ultra pasteurized milk (expensive)
Vanilla (improves dry milk, too)
Velveeta (watch carton date, freeze for storage if possible)
Vienna sausage
Yeast, if you think you would use it. May be frozen.

Baby food
Pet food

Please use the button below to send this list to friends and relatives. Every family, every person who is prepared, decreases the pressure on others


This link also contains information on water purification, emergency supplies, communication, news breaks etc.

:)
 
Anyone have a sourdough bug recipe?

Anyone have a sourdough bug recipe?

I just read on a thread its useful and I would dearly like to start one, whats needed please?

Thanks for the above lists, very helpful, yet daunting!..haha..more prepping needed. I have 90kg of rice for 7..not nearly enough,:o
 
Re: Food storage preps

Please remember to protect what you have stored.

Grains should all be frozen or 2-4 days. This will kill insect larvae. After freezing you have a couple of options or, you can do all of them if you choose. Store the grains in a rodent and bug proof or resistant container. Some good choices for this are resealable mylar bags, food grade only plastic buckets, seal-a-meal bags, steel 55 gal. drums that were initially used for food and finally plastic 55 gal. drums used previously for foodstuffs. In the bottom of the large containers you can wrap a chunk of dry ice in a cloth or clean rag then pour the grain on top. Let the lid cover most but not all of the top of the container. The melting dry ice will replace the oxygen and kill any surviving insects. It will also make it an inhospitable place for insects to infest later. And lastly mix in some bay leaves to your grains. If you are lucky enough to live in Ca. you can find California bay leaves growing wild. Insects are repulsed by the scent of the leaves. If you do not have access to a cheap source of bay leaves they order a pound for a small amount of money from www.herbalcom.com You will see significant savings using this source. While you are at it make out an order for other herbs. They have a $5. shipping and handling charge that applies to any size order.

I store most of my preps in 4 gallon plastic tubs that come from the market. They were used to hold already prepared frosting and in my store cost $.25 apiece. Even I with my arthritis can remove the lids fairly easily. For items requiring small amounts of space I use zip-type bags for frequently used items, i.e. pepper, and store them with like products in one of the 4 gallon buckets. You can use other purchased 5 gal. buckets but make sure you get a lid opener to make your life easier.

Water storage can be tricky. You will need a minimum of one gal. water per day per person just for food prep and drinking. This water must be pure! You can use water that comes from municipal sources without any further processing. Those 55 gal. plastic drums work very well for this purpose. But all water does not need to be this pure. If you are flushing toilets or washing clothes then the water can be easily stored in plastic garbage cans.

It is a good idea to add mouse and rat traps to your stores. So too are insect sprays essential to protecting your purchases.
 
Re: Food storage preps

In the past I have had great success using bay leaves to keep out insects. But now I am wondering if there might be mould spores on the bay leaves.
 
Back
Top