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FluTrackers Offers Condolences to the People of Egypt on This Day of Darkness

sharon sanders

Editor-in-Chief & President
We offer our condolences to the Egyptian people on this sad day of death and violence.

from Reuters:

snip

"The clashes spread quickly, and a health ministry official said about 300 people were killed and more than 2,000 injured in fighting in Cairo, Alexandria and numerous towns and cities around the mostly Muslim nation of 84 million.

The crackdown defied Western appeals for restraint and a peaceful, negotiated settlement to Egypt's political stand-off, prompting international statements of dismay and condemnation.

The Muslim Brotherhood said the true death toll was far higher, with a spokesman saying 2,000 people had been killed in a "massacre." It was impossible to verify the figures independently given the extent of the violence."




We cover much loss here on FluTrackers - death from disease, natural disasters, accidents, and sometimes - man-made. The one wholly preventable cause of death is violence. This kind of loss is a wound that never heals - and in fact - begets more violence.

So sorry for everyone.
 
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http://www.king5.com/news/local/Local-Egyptians-protest-wave-of-violence-in-Egypt-219706661.html
Local Egyptians protest wave of violence in Egypt
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Credit: KING5 News​
by KING 5 News
Posted on August 14, 2013 at 7:27 PM
Updated today at 10:12 PM
Gallery
See all 3 photos ?

BELLEVUE, Wash. -- Local Egyptians took to the streets in Bellevue Wednesday, protesting the wave of violence in Egypt that have resulted in hundreds of deaths.

From the video:

"Stop the killing, stop the hate."
"Even Mubarak didn't do this. Mubarak was more merciful than this guy."
"Even Assad in Syria has not killed so many in one day like this. So again, this is one of the saddest days in Egyptian history."

http://seattletimes.com/html/politics/2021566337_apusmccainegypt.html
Originally published August 8, 2013 at 12:12 PM | Page modified August 8, 2013 at 1:05 PM

McCain worries Egypt may suffer prolonged violence

Fresh off a contentious meeting in Cairo, Sen. John McCain expressed concern Thursday that Egypt may be headed toward a period of prolonged violence if the Arab country's military and the Muslim Brotherhood cannot start a political dialogue.
...
The McCain-Graham visit was undertaken at President Barack Obama's request, though the lawmakers didn't speak for the administration. McCain, for example, called Morsi's ouster a "coup" - a declaration Obama's team has avoided because it would trigger a suspension of America's annual military aid package of $1.3 billion. The U.S. says such support is critical to American interests in the region from fighting terrorism to ensuring Israel's security...

Then it's also one of the saddest days in American history.
 
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The dictator of Saudi Arabia supports the lethal force crackdown on dissidents by the Egypt military.

And why did we think that we were ever going to get the truth about nCoV coronavirus or any other disease from the ruling junta?

Saudi Arabia is one of the most brutal and repressive regimes in the world and we are all bowing down to their oil.







Saudi king backs Egypt's military
King Abdullah calls on Arabs to stand together against "attempts to destabilise" Egypt.
Last Modified: 16 Aug 2013 15:43


http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/08/201381615196784361.html
 
Re: FluTrackers Offers Condolences to the People of Egypt on This Day of Darkness

The dictator of Saudi Arabia supports the lethal force crackdown on dissidents by the Egypt military.

And why did we think that we were ever going to get the truth about nCoV coronavirus or any other disease from the ruling junta?

Saudi Arabia is one of the most brutal and repressive regimes in the world and we are all bowing down to their oil.







Saudi king backs Egypt's military
King Abdullah calls on Arabs to stand together against "attempts to destabilise" Egypt.
Last Modified: 16 Aug 2013 15:43


http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/08/201381615196784361.html


Apparently the news about these incidents is being censored in the United States. The following video has not been made available by the uploader to ips that originate in the United States.


AJELive ‏@AJELive 6m
VIDEO: Witness claims that helicopters fired live ammunition on crowds gathered in Ramsas Square - #Egypt LIVE BLOG: http://aje.me/145DTvg
 
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I can't access either one of those links.
 
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Scores dead in Egypt's 'day of rage' clashes

Gunfire attacks continue on mosque near Cairo's Ramses Square, the site of worst bloodshed during anti-coup protests.

Last Modified: 16 Aug 2013 20:42

Scores of people have been killed in Egypt after security forces opened fire on anti-coup protesters staging a "day of rage" against the military-led government.

In the worst of the violence on Friday, at least 95 people were killed and hundreds injured in Cairo's Ramses Square as anti-coup protesters were fired on by government forces. A correspondent for Al Jazeera described lines of bodies in a makeshift hospital in the nearby Al-Fath mosque.

A protester, Said Mohammed, told Al Jazeera that the crowds were shot at by snipers and by men in helicopters.

"Helicopters started to shoot us as we were walking. Not bombs this time, it was bullets. My friend took a shot in the neck and he died," he said. "This was the first time we saw helicopters shooting. There were people shooting from the windows."
...

Full article & video:
http://www.aljazeera.com/news/middleeast/2013/08/2013816121757821877.html
 
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YouTube brings gory reality of Egypt clashes to the world
By Simon Kent, Toronto Sun

The world can?t ignore this for much longer.

If you thought that Egypt in general and Cairo in particular looked set for another round of bloody slaughter, then you?d be wrong.

The mass killing has already started and it is all being captured on YouTube.

Whereas once the sort of sickening violence that is defining this uprising would have been accessible only to those with television or newspaper access, the Egyptian revolution is being recorded in the here-and-now and quickly posted through the Internet.

Horrific acts are there for all to see. It?s not pretty and it doesn?t pretend to be.

This is the worst type of indiscriminate murder and score settling, all committed by opposing sides with competing claims to the democratic process but no means to settle them beyond the blind fury of war.


WARNING: GRAPHIC CONTENT... http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Features/2013/08/16/21052561.html
 
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hat tip @Zeinobia

Zeinobia was one of the first bloggers in Egypt. She was one of our first contacts in Egypt and for many years wrote blogs about the emerging H5N1 situation there.


Saturday, August 17, 2013

And It has just started but I fear We do not know that yet

I do not know to say or write but it feels so heavy. At I knew that Egypt before August 14 was different than after August 14 and it is not a change for better but rather worse,the living proof was yesterday.

First I could not complete the live updates because I was sick , I had a fever and I could not complete. It was from the mercy of God to sleep while this on going tragedy taking place. It is hard for anyone to see his country falling in to piece and to see his own people killing each other.

Second I have a testimony which I have to share as a citizen journalist before being a professional journalist. I was on the verge of spending the day at my work down Al Galaa Street as the clashes between the Muslim brotherhood protesters but me and my real great colleagues found a way out taking back streets. Our plan was to take the Sabatiya popular area and then cross the old Imbaba bridge to Imbaba as 15 May bridge and October bridge were all blocked.

It was 5 PM. We passed by a vigilante checkpoints where locals were holding machetes and swords as well empty bottle glasses were brought. I saw an army helicopter standing still in the air in the direction of Ramsis street.

We went to Sabatiya , a popular area full of workshops. Despite they are mostly closed on Friday yet the locals in the poor formed vigilante checkpoints against swords and machetes were there. Despite they did not let other cars to pass without inspection , we passed smoothly. I think they saw bunch of ladies unveiled in the car and thought they can not be Muslim brotherhood supporters. In one of the checkpoints they forced two women wearing black Niqab to leave their tuktuk and step aside.

I do not know what happened to those ladies.

In one of the areas of Sabatiya , I saw a mob , an armed mob from locals around a police van used to transfer detainees as well CSF conscripts. I did not understand what was happening there. In our trip we saw some locals careless for the battles taking place couple of blocks away. I saw those locals playing dominos in the cafes giving their back to the TV sets.

Moving to the great republic of Imbaba , we met even more popular checkpoints. There were clashes there especially in the Nile Corniche. Moving to Sphinx square we found groups of MB supporters handing to somewhere. As soon as we left , we heard that clashes erupted there.

In Agouza , I found near where I live huge noise coming from Agouza Charity Hospital ?Following the Ministry of health?. When I went there I found locals from popular area nearby the hospital rushing with an injured man to another hospital in Imbaba while another man was announced dead. The people said that the Muslim brotherhood protesters killed him in the clashes in Nile street. The family of the deceased soon brought up the swords as well empty bottles crate to the street and head to Nile street to complete the battle.

I forgot to take my camera and it was the wisest thing to happen with all these suspicious armed vigilantes in the checkpoints.

I did not feel that worried on January 28 , it was completely different. It is much worse by all degrees.

It was a sad day.

We are used to blood and death that most people are indifferent to the huge death toll we have in the past 3 days , over 1000 Egyptians are killed !! Of course many people believe that the majority of those dead Egyptians are Muslim brotherhood terrorists who should not only get killed but to rot in hell. Yes it got to this degree in fact many people believe that security forces have been merciful with the Muslim brotherhood.

I am afraid its implications were not taken in consideration in whoever planned for it whether the Muslim brotherhood or the security forces or the regime. Violence brings violence. Starting with the dispersal of the sits in and there has been true political and social assessments for the political or security decisions taken !! We are heading towards diplomatic crises with half of the world in time of economic crisis while adopting Nasser 1960s rhetoric !!

The Nasserite Nationalist wave Egypt by all strength sponsored by the current regime is facing Islamism Nationalist wave that getting angrier and angrier by time. It is double radicalization from all sides.

You can not speak now when Egypt is fighting its greatest wars , the war of terrorism !! You are either traitor or MB agent , actually they are same thing now. You do not dare to speak about human rights or civil rights in this time otherwise you are traitor as well.

Unfortunately people do not realize that the latest country to declare this war has not won it yet and that country is the so-called leader of the free world.

People of Egypt now believe the TV channels and TV figures that they once disbelieve. The Mubarak era?s figures are back with their ugliness with their anti-25 January revolution narratives.

The same disease the MB was suffering from has spread like in the Egyptian society.

I am afraid that there will be more blood spelled till all the people realize there is no other way than political solution. Of course that is a very optimistic scenario another scenario is we can have a light version from Algerian scenario where we enter a war against Islamists. That scenario will end with the army generals? rule from behind scenes with puppet presidents and parties in the front along with highly nationalist spirit and iron curtain and control on media.

There was once a Lebanese thinker that said that Lebanese people did not admit that they were having a civil war except after two years , well I believe we are heading towards something ugly and nobody wants to admit it.

It has started and most Egyptians do not know that it started.

Posted by Zeinobia at 11:54 PM
 
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Via FB, http://giulianasgrena.globalist.it/


Lettre ouverte ? mes amis occidentaux

1-Imaginez que vous vous r?veilliez un jour pour apprendre que votre pr?sident s'est arrog? les pleins pouvoirs (oui. tous les pouvoirs, les trois pouvoirs) par une d?claration dite "constitutionnelle"... sans aucun recours...

2-Imaginez que ce pr?sident soit arriv? au pouvoir parce que ses ?lecteurs (5,5 millions sur 90 millions d'habitants) aient d?j? d?cid? de "br?ler votre pays si [leur] candidat ne gagnait pas aux ?lections" [sic]

3-Imaginez que pendant une ann?e enti?re; et jusqu'? ce jour, vous soyez oblig?s de vivre dans la peur de voir une Saint-Barth?l?my version XXIesi?cle

4-Imaginez que vos institutions aient ?t? r?cup?r?es manu militari par une "secte" qui ne vous repr?sente en aucune mani?re car mue par une id?ologie nazie ET fasciste.

5- Imaginez que, ce que le monde ext?rieur continue ? appeler un "sit-in" et des "manifestations" soit un tantinet "garni" d'armes blanches, d'armes ? feu, voire de RBG (exp?rience d'il y a quelques heures contre un commissariat de police)

6-Imaginez que vos ?glises, vos mus?es et vos administrations soient d?molis et pill?s ( Vous a-t-on parl? des 20 ?glises br?lees en 2 jours et du Mus?e de Menia attaqu? et pill? dans la nuit; outre les tr?s nombreuses menaces contre tous les autres symboles du patrimoine?)

7-Imaginez que le monde entier ne parle que des "droits" de vos tortionnaires, ( r?p?tant LEURS mensonges, pour des inter?ts que vous ne partagez pas), et du r?le de vos forces arm?es (qu'on le veuille ou pas, seule garantie d'une survie, si survie il y a), sans jamais parler de votre volont? ? vous...VOUS, LE PEUPLE.

8-Imaginez que vous ayez d?j? mis fin, au prix du sang, ? des dictatures dont tous les massacres ont ?t? tr?s d?lib?r?ment tus parce que cela arrangeait tout le monde.

9-Imaginez enfin que nous non plus, en Egypte, nous n'aurions pas voulu voir de sang couler, encore!

Les m?dias jouent le jeu des USA. Ils mentent.

Vous, mes amis, vous savez que je ne mens pas et que si je dis que les m?dias sont menteurs, c'est parce que je vis, au quotidien, ce que je vous raconte (en ce moment-m?me les tirs des "pauvres manifestants pacifiques FM" selon CNN et d'autre chaines, s'approchent tellement de chez moi, que tous les magasins ont vite ferm?. Pas de peur, cependant, peut-?tre par habitude...

Si vous consid?rez qu'il est une autre v?rit? que celle v?hicul?e par les m?dias (et dont je ne cite que des bribes -car le quotidien est trop long, trop dur ? dire enti?rement), je vous prie de partager ce statut. Merci

K. L.


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Spokesperson for the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights: Liz Throssell
Location: Geneva
Date: 20 August 2013

GENEVA (20 August 2013) - We remain alarmed at the continuing violence in Egypt and echo the Secretary General?s strong condemnation of the ambush in the Sinai peninsula in which 25 Egyptian police officers were killed.

The deaths on Sunday night of 36 prisoners, who were in police custody, are also deeply disturbing and need to be fully investigated.

Hundreds of Muslim Brotherhood members are reported to have been detained in recent days ? among these are some of its leaders.

Everyone deprived of their liberty must be treated humanely and afforded all judicial guarantees under international law.

We are reiterating our call to the Egyptian authorities to allow us to deploy human rights officers from the OHCHR so that we can assess the situation on the ground.

http://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/Pages/DisplayNews.aspx?NewsID=13643&LangID=E
 
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http://www.middleeastmonitor.net/news/africa/6969-church-vicar-in-al-minya-the-baltigya-thugs-burnt-the-churches
Church vicar in Al Minya: the baltigya [thugs] burnt the churches
Saturday, 17 August 2013 14:28
Al-Qiddissin-Church-attacked-egypt.jpg

"Churches all over Egypt have been attacked by mobs. While Egyptian media accusses Muslim Brotherhood members of the acts, several church leaders have said that the attacks were carried out by "Mubarak Thugs" while MB members tried to defend the churches"
...
Yusuf pointed out that his community had made several appeals to the police and army to protect their churches from the thugs, all without any success. - See more at: http://www.middleeastmonitor.net/ne...thugs-burnt-the-churches#sthash.Y523jPCz.dpuf

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