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Flu viruses evolve in fits and starts pattern, study suggests

AlaskaDenise

In Memoriam
http://bodyandhealth.canada.com/channel_health_news_details.asp?news_id=10991&news_channel_id=1020&channel_id=1020&rot=11

Provided by: Canadian Press
Written by: HELEN BRANSWELL
Oct. 29, 2006


TORONTO (CP) - The accepted notion that influenza viruses are constantly changing in a bid to outsmart the human immune system may not be entirely accurate, a new study says.

The work, by U.S. scientists, suggests flu viruses evolve in a pattern of fits and starts, perhaps spurred by a competition between the two circulating types of influenza A that infect people, H3N2 and H1N1.

The finding, if confirmed by other researchers, could offer clues on how best to select the influenza strains that go into the annual flu shot, in particular in the years when H3N2 is undergoing the major changes that precede a bad flu season.

"Our hope is one, we could do a better job of being ready for those big changes, which is important because a lot of people get sick those years," said David Lipman, senior author of the paper, which was published in the online journal Biology Direct.

It might also help scientists predict if the avian influenza strain H5N1 is evolving in a way that should set off alarm bells, said Lipman, director of the U.S. National Center for Biotechnology Information, one of the National Institutes of Health.

The authors suggest the dominant human subtype, H3N2, occasionally goes into brief periods of evolutionary suspension or stasis, lasting months and even a year or so. Spotting an opening, H1N1 surges forward to become the main circulating subtype for a flu season, an occurrence that snaps H3N2 viruses back into action, they say.

"When H1N1 wins, that's basically a sign that H3N2 is in a stasis period," said Lipman, who wrote the paper with colleagues from the National Institutes of Health and the Pennsylvania State University.

Their work, which may raise eyebrows among flu scientists, is one of the first to draw on the Influenza Genome Sequencing Project - an ambitious U.S. program aimed at cataloguing the genetic blueprints of as many garden-variety flu viruses as possible from different parts of the world.

The project is a bit like a genetic census of influenza. The growing database gives scientists the chance to study the genetic codes of a large number of flu viruses and look for patterns that may provide insights into everything from how flu evolves to how best to design new flu drugs and vaccines.

Joshua Plotkin, a researcher who specializes in molecular evolution at Harvard, called the work "an awesome use of these data."

Plotkin is also looking for ways to predict the evolution of influenza viruses. While he didn't challenge the findings, he suggested this paper doesn't turn flu dogma on its ear, but rather fine-tunes it.

"It's been known for a long time that . . . it sometimes takes two or in rare circumstances even three years" for a sufficiently new strain of H3N2 to emerge and cause a serious epidemic, he said, adding the study conclusions "really fill in the detail of that story."

But one of the reviewers of the paper remained skeptical Lipman and his co-authors had captured a real pattern, suggesting the collection of 1,000 or so viruses they studied might not have been representative of what was going on around the world. The viruses studied for this paper were from New York state and New Zealand.

"I am not convinced that the view of long periods of stasis . . . described here is not primarily due to the use of a biased (incomplete) dataset," Ron Fouchier, a virologist from Erasmus University in Rotterdam, wrote in his assessment of the study. (Biology Direct posts the comments of its academic reviewers along with the articles.)

In the paper, Lipman and his colleagues charted the evolution of H3N2 and H1N1 viruses between 1995 and 2005.

They saw a pattern in which H3N2 viruses would evolve to the point where they were sufficiently different that they could cause a serious annual epidemic. That's because the changes made the viruses unrecognizable to the immune systems of many people worldwide.

Those big influenza years occurred in 1997, with a flu strain named A/Sydney and in 2003 with a strain named A/Fujian.

But because those strains made so many people sick, the H3N2 viruses would have had to acquire significant new changes in successive flu seasons to again infect lots of people. They did not and in the year or two after, the flu seasons were milder.

Eventually, the evolutionary progress of those strains of H3N2 appeared to stall, allowing H1N1 to come to the fore. Being overtaken by the rival strain seemed to push H3N2 back into action.

Lipman said a mild H3N2 season followed by an H1N1 season - H1N1 typically causes even milder disease than H3N2 - could be a signal a bad flu season is on the way.

"We don't know if it's going to take off next season. Or the season after. What this . . . tells us though, is that we need to come up with a better way to analyze the sequence data, to do the (strain) surveillance, to see when it's going to explode on us," Lipman said.

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AlaskaDenise said:
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This is why I believe we need to be careful about our conclusions regarding 1918 H1N1 - insufficient data.

Otherwise, it's interesting to know that Dr. Niman is not alone in his theory or quests.

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New Study Has Important Implications For Flu Surveillance

New Study Has Important Implications For Flu Surveillance

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2006/10/061026185115.htm

New Study Has Important Implications For Flu Surveillance


Researchers are reporting results of a study that substantially alters the existing understanding of how the influenza virus evolves and that could have important implications for monitoring changes to the virus and predicting which strains should be used for flu vaccine. The study, which will be published in the online journal Biology Direct Oct. 26, 2006, was conducted by researchers from the National Library of Medicine's National Center for Biotechnology Information (NCBI) and Fogarty International Center , both part of the National Institutes of Health.

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In an effort to better understand how seasonal influenza evolves into new strains, the researchers analyzed the genomic sequences of a large and representative collection of the two most common flu strains (called H3N2 and H1N1) from the 1995-2005 flu seasons in New York state and New Zealand. The sequence data was obtained from the Genome Sequencing Project , which recently generated over 1,000 fully sequenced influenza genomes from clinical isolates; the project is funded and managed by the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases .

The analysis revealed a picture of flu evolution that was surprisingly different from the prevailing conception of how the virus changes. Evolution of influenza A virus is commonly viewed as a typical Darwinian process. In this mode of evolution, the virus' main surface protein, hemagglutinin (HA), is thought to continually change to evade human immune response, resulting in new dominant strains that eliminate all competitors in a series of rapid successions. Unexpectedly, however, the study found that the periods of intense Darwinian selection accounted for only a relatively small portion of H3N2 flu evolution during the ten-year period examined.

The study found that much of the time the H3N2 virus seemed to be "in stasis"; that is, the HA gene showed no significant excess of mutations in the antigenic regions (those recognized by the immune system). During these stasis periods, none of the co-circulating strains is significantly more fit than others, apparently because multiple mutations are required to substantially improve the virus' ability to evade the immune system. As a result, an increased variety of strains accumulates. Ultimately, however, one of the variants will come within one mutation of achieving higher fitness and becoming dominant. Once the crucial last mutation does occur, virus evolution shifts from stasis to a brief interval of rapid Darwinian evolution, where the new dominant virus rapidly sweeps through the human population and eliminates most other variants.

Based on their results, the researchers conclude that "the common view of the evolution of influenza virus as a rapid, positive selection-driven process is, at best, incomplete." Because the periods of stasis allow the proliferation of many small groups of related viruses, any of which could become the next dominant virus strain, the authors suggest that sequencing much larger numbers of representative isolates could be helpful in augmenting current surveillance methods.

The study, titled "Long Intervals of Stasis Punctuated by Bursts of Positive Selection in the Seasonal Evolution of Influenza A Virus," is authored by Yuri Wolf, PhD, NCBI; Cecile Viboud, PhD, Fogarty International Center; Edward Holmes, PhD, Fogarty International Center and Pennsylvania State University; Eugene Koonin, PhD, NCBI; and David Lipman, MD, NCBI.

Established in 1988 as a national resource for molecular biology information, NCBI creates public databases, conducts research in computational biology, develops software tools for analyzing molecular and genomic data, and disseminates biomedical information - all for the better understanding of processes affecting human health and disease. NCBI is a division of the National Library of Medicine at the National Institutes of Health (NIH).
 
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Sorry, I didn't recognize it was about the same story.:oops:
Can you or someone else replace it for me? Don't know how to fix that.
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Re: New Study Has Important Implications Fot Flu Surveillance

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There is slightly different information in each, so together they tell a story.

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Re: Flu viruses evolve in fits and starts pattern, study suggests

AlaskaDenise said:
This is why I believe we need to be careful about our conclusions regarding 1918 H1N1 - insufficient data.

Otherwise, it's interesting to know that Dr. Niman is not alone in his theory or quests.

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Looking forward to Dr. Niman's comments ;)

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Re: Flu viruses evolve in fits and starts pattern, study suggests

To my recollection, Niman's logic is that via recombination, a new polymorphism widens its base, and then, when critical mass occurs, the then unrecognizeable to the human defense system virus expands rapidly and in predictable ways. It expands rapidly as it will have tied itself to an already readily transmissible polymorphism, in essence hitching a ride. The phrase Niman uses to describe this type of transmission is "elegant".

This NIH study proves Niman's logic in terms of what happens. Why it happens is the question. But it's not really the question because the 3 options are: reassortment (which apparently doesnt expand in the way described by NIH); point mutation/random mutation (which by definition is random and can't expand in the way described by NIH); and the last choice, homologous recombination (which does expand in the way described by NIH).

So, which is it? And what does "it" mean for proactive development of vax?

What impact will the doubt and ignorance of virologists who hold recognition and seats of influence have here? If they are and have been "wrong", as this NIH study is now concluding/suggesting/alleging/alluding, will their demand for wider studies to achieve absolute proof, which studies may repeatedly be considered statistically flawed, be sufficient to preclude robust attention to the development of vaccine based upon the conclusions of this NIH study?
 
Re: Flu viruses evolve in fits and starts pattern, study suggests

The article in question abstract :

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ABSTRACT: BACKGROUND: The interpandemic evolution of the influenza A virus hemagglutinin (HA) protein is commonly considered a paragon of rapid evolutionary change under positive selection in which amino acid replacements are fixed by virtue of their effect on antigenicity, enabling the virus to evade immune surveillance. RESULTS: We performed phylogenetic analyses of the recently obtained large and relatively unbiased samples of the HA sequences from 1995-2005 isolates of the H3N2 and H1N1 subtypes of influenza A virus. Unexpectedly, it was found that the evolution of H3N2 HA includes long intervals of generally neutral sequence evolution without apparent substantial antigenic change (stasis periods) that are characterized by an excess of synonymous over nonsynonymous substitutions per site, lack of association of amino acid replacements with epitope regions, and slow extinction of coexisting virus lineages. These long periods of stasis are punctuated by shorter intervals of rapid evolution under positive selection during which new dominant lineages quickly displace previously coexisting ones. The preponderance of positive selection during intervals of rapid evolution is supported by the dramatic excess of amino acid replacements in the epitope regions of HA compared to replacements in the rest of the HA molecule. In contrast, the stasis intervals showed a much more uniform distribution of replacements over the HA molecule, with a statistically significant difference in the rate of synonymous over nonsynonymous substitution in the epitope regions between the two modes of evolution. A number of parallel amino acid replacements - the same amino acid substitution occurring independently in different lineages - were also detected in H3N2 HA. These parallel mutations were, largely, associated with periods of rapid fitness change, indicating that there are major limitations on evolutionary pathways during antigenic change. The finding that stasis is the prevailing modality of H3N2 evolution suggests that antigenic changes that lead to an increase in fitness typically result from epistatic interactions between several amino acid substitutions in the HA and, perhaps, other viral proteins. The strains that become dominant due to increased fitness emerge from low frequency strains thanks to the last amino acid replacement that completes the set of replacements required to produce a significant antigenic change; no subset of substitutions results in a biologically significant antigenic change and corresponding fitness increase. In contrast to H3N2, no clear intervals of evolution under positive selection were detected for the H1N1 HA during the same time span. Thus, the ascendancy of H1N1 in some seasons is, most likely, caused by the drop in the relative fitness of the previously prevailing H3N2 lineages as the fraction of susceptible hosts decreases during the stasis intervals. CONCLUSIONS: We show that the common view of the evolution of influenza virus as a rapid, positive selection-driven process is, at best, incomplete. Rather, the interpandemic evolution of influenza appears to consist of extended intervals of stasis, which are characterized by neutral sequence evolution, punctuated by shorter intervals of rapid fitness increase when evolutionary change is driven by positive selection. These observations have implications for influenza surveillance and vaccine formulation; in particular, the possibility exists that parallel amino acid replacements could serve as a predictor of new dominant strains. Reviewers: Ron Fouchier (nominated by Andrey Rzhetsky), David Krakauer, Christopher Lee.
PMID: 17067369 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]

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Re: Flu viruses evolve in fits and starts pattern, study suggests

It appear that Niman's view will prevail one of theses days.
I would be very important for him to publish something ( I mean an official scientific artice ) before someone else more established draw the same conclusion from another path.
 
Re: Flu viruses evolve in fits and starts pattern, study suggests

Mingus said:
It appear that Niman's view will prevail one of theses days.
I would be very important for him to publish something ( I mean an official scientific artice ) before someone else more established draw the same conclusion from another path.
Several manuscripts are at various stages of submission, although as seen by the latest paper, if you start with the wrong premise, you get the wrong answer.
 
Re: Flu viruses evolve in fits and starts pattern, study suggests

This person referenced by Branswell is themselves suspect as we consider the following (first the reference by Branswell)...

Branswell:>But one of the reviewers of the paper remained skeptical Lipman and his co-authors had captured a real pattern, suggesting the collection of 1,000 or so viruses they studied might not have been representative of what was going on around the world. The viruses studied for this paper were from New York state and New Zealand.

"I am not convinced that the view of long periods of stasis . . . described here is not primarily due to the use of a biased (incomplete) dataset," Ron Fouchier, a virologist from Erasmus University in Rotterdam, wrote in his assessment of the study. (Biology Direct posts the comments of its academic reviewers along with the articles.)

Ron Fouchier, out of Erasmus U in Rotterdam, challenges the bias of the dataset.

What does this virologist know about statistics?
What are the statistical parameters which are accepted within the virological and the epidemiological communities as a large enough statistical base, selected randomly and in what way?
What does Ron believe is the definition of an unbiased, complete dataset?

(If Ron is incorrect in his assumption, what he says therefollowing is incorrect. As the researchers must be assumed to have seriously considered how to select an unbaised dataset, and as complete a dataset as is statistically defensible, we must ask why Ron Fouchier would believe or would posit that the dataset was biased or was incomplete. This leads to the question of what Ron is himself researching and what his area of expertise is and has been. It's very possible, in the same vein that Ron Fouchier asks, that Ron has a research project which involves an assumption that has now been disproven by this research paper, and that it would be to Ron's best interest to see this research paper diminished in its credibility....right?)

Or maybe it's a reporter's misinterpretation of Ron's concern and Ron is raising a different concern which warrants serious reflection by we the readers and the researchers. (I do hope it to be this latter position, but only Ron can speak for himself.)
 
Re: Flu viruses evolve in fits and starts pattern, study suggests

Ron Fouchier, out of Erasmus U in Rotterdam, challenges the bias of the dataset.

This research can be done with dutch samples to correct the bias... maybe he thought of that too? Would be scientifically correct criticism. :D
 
Re: Flu viruses evolve in fits and starts pattern, study suggests

Mingus said:
It appear that Niman's view will prevail one of theses days.
I would be very important for him to publish something ( I mean an official scientific artice ) before someone else more established draw the same conclusion from another path.
Do you think that Niman cares as long as he holds the patent, which over the past 2 years we've heard has been expanded in its inclusiveness?

The real question is when the vax companies are going to listen up and start running down this recombinational divination path to high probability, upcoming H5N1 clades/strains and get them in production and into the market.

Can anyone tell us where H5N1 stands on this "fits and starts pattern" curve?

What I found fascinating is that we have been at Phase 3 per WHO for now 2-3 years. This fits within the study's observation... it appears like stasis. But in probable fact, the virus appears to be seeding itself within a wider population and according to this study, if it's a run of the mill, garden variety virus, this virus will erupt suddenly and massively and run through the general population. It appears that Phases 4, and certainly 5 and 6 of a pandemic per WHO will happen as fast as many here have been deducing from the literature of the past, including 1918 among the many. The fascinating part is that this is what Niman says is how H5N1 will via homologous recombination transmit when the stage is set.
 
Re: Flu viruses evolve in fits and starts pattern, study suggests

AlaskaDenise said:
Ron A.M. Fouchier was involved in the analysis of human H7N7 in Netherlands, see ProMed report at http://medtech.syrene.net/forum/showthread.php?t=1200.

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What's referenced above says nothing (that I can find in my review thereof) about this man's understanding of statistics, be they epidemiological or virological.

His challenge of the data was statistical. It has nothing to do with his being able to recognize the conjunctivitis pattern of H7N7.

This challenge is strange, coming from a man and an institution which deduced pattern based on only a handful of facts in evidence.

I'm guessing the news reporter somehow twisted what was said. Possibly Ron said, "not enough explanation of the basis of the dataset" which the reporter took to mean, "possibly, the dataset is not trustworthy."

Ron's not alleged to have challenged the conclusion, just the basis of the conclusion.

Ron should be happy. Osterhaus and the Dutch can now ask for big bucks to reconstruct their lab as they've been operating first on reassortment and now can switch to homologous recombination. That would be great for them. They can get some fat grants, quickly.
 
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