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Flour: vacuum pack? Etc.

So far I haven't any flour in my preps because in ordinary life I often seem to end up throwing out old flour (I'm fussy about it, and don't like to use stale-smelling flour on the rare occasions I bake) and I'm trying to prep with things I can rotate. But now I've ordered a lot of cheese so I have an incentive to work out how to store bread-making ingredients :-) Help?

It appears that any flour I buy will come in 1kg paper bags (i.e. I can't get it in sacks). I have a vacuum packing machine, and a small, permanently nearly-full freezer. This is my plan:

- buy mostly white bread (strong) flour, for longest life;

- put the whole paper bag unopened into a plastic vacuum-pack bag and vacuum pack it

- then put the bag in the freezer for 48 hours to kill weevil eggs

- then store the bag in the larder

Given what I have is this the best I can do? (Or, for example, is there a reason to do the freezing bit before the vacuum packing?) And how long after purchase can I reasonably expect to use this flour and not think "yuck, stale" as I use it?

TIA!

PS I already have a lot of rice and lentils stored, in the plastic bags it came in, but I haven't done any freezing on those bags because I've never observed bugs in rice or lentils - maybe the packages we buy here (UK) have been irradiated? Or have I just been lucky and should I start treating these bags in future?
 
Re: Flour: vacuum pack? Etc.

Hi,
The freezing of your flour is to keep it fresh and the bugs out of it. They say flour keeps upto a year in the freezer, I use it even if it has been in there longer and it has always been fine just like when it was first opened. I always keep my flour in the freezer even after it has been open. As for any of your dry goods such as rice lentals , beans all of them can be stored in the freezer.
It is a good idea though if you can vaccume seal them into a plastic bag then put into freezer. This way if you have no way of keeping your freezer going then they will still be dry, sealed, and fresh. I hope this helped.........jlw :)

PS there is no reason for you to freeze them , before you vaccume pack them, just do it after you put them in the plastic bags.
 
Re: Flour: vacuum pack? Etc.

My experience has been (in the USA) that all my 5 lb. bags of regular flour easily last one year after being placed in the freezer for 24-48 hr. and having a good quality plastic bag (not a grocery bag) over them. I store them in my kitchen cupboard. Like you, I'm fussy about how my flour tastes because I love to bake breads, bagels, cookies and cakes and I make my own noodles, too. Bugs haven't been a problem.

Since we don't have the equipment, I haven't done any vacuum packing.

Ever since tiny black wormy things appeared in my 2 lb. bag of white rice earlier this year, I've been putting all my rice into the freezer for a couple of days before I store it. I never had bugs in rice before and didn't even think it could happen, but there they were, and the bag was only a few months old. Now that I'm buying it in 20 lb. bags, it's not easy to hoist it in and out of the chest freezer, let alone find room for it, but I hate to take a chance that I'll find little friends in it later on.

Hope this helps. Best wishes for your projects!
 
Re: Flour: vacuum pack? Etc.

Because Flour is ground so finely, It is impossible to remove as much air as necessary to preserve the flour outside of the freezer. Put a small piece of dry ice in the bottom of an upright bag and then add the flour. After the dry ice has evaporated, place a coffee filter on the top of the bag to prevent the flour being evacuated and vacuum seal the bag. It is not necessary to freeze it, because insects will not survive without oxygen. Alternately, you can use an oxygen absorber.
 
Re: Flour: vacuum pack? Etc.

Thanks for starting this thread! :applause: I was at Walmart this past weekend looking at containers for storing Flour and such. I have just a few small bags of flour and was wondering how to keep everything fresh and neat in my pantry. I haven't bought anything yet, but you guys really freaked me out about the bugs in the rice...ugh..Should I put mine in the freazer for a couple of days and then take it out and put it back in the pantry? I haven't had any problems with bugs and sure do not want to start...thanks
 
Re: Flour: vacuum pack? Etc.

Vacuuming is almost impossible with finely ground foods. I did use it for dried milk but it eventually ruined my machine. Someone long ago suggested putting a piece of paper toweling on top of finelly milled foods before vacuuming to help prevent as many fine particles as possible from being sucked into the machine. It works for a while but then the pump will eventually fail. So, my advice is to not use it unless it was a dire situation and the loss of your machine was a secondary consideration.
 
Re: Flour: vacuum pack? Etc.

Vacuum sealing is an excellent way to extend the shelf life of some food items. Of course it has other less obvious uses such as sealing batteries, old photos and documents, etc. Anything that is damage by oxidation can benefit from vacuum sealing.

There are several Yahoo group dedicated to tips and techniques of using vacuum sealing equipment. Here is the main one:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FoodSaver/
 
Re: Flour: vacuum pack? Etc.

I vacuum pack my flour (cornmeal, & corn masa mix for tortillas) in a vac bag, but I buy it in regular 4 lb bags so I can vac it inside the paper bag it comes in. Simply wipe the bag off, slip in into the vac bag, and seal. Very little dust. It literally turns into a brick!

I have some sealed for two years now, and it's still fine.

I have some in the freezer, too. Honestly, inside the vac bag, I have no idea how long it will keep in the freezer, but I think it's a loonnngggg time.

I freeze everything for two days, then I let it dry completely before sealing. I do this because I read that some buggies can last for a long time in a vac bag. There are air spaces between the food particles.

I think that the only way you could improve on this is to use 1/2 gallon canning jars.

Amazingly, a 1/2 canning jar will vacuum inside the tallest Foodsaver canister! I vac everything from tiny pimiento jars to 1/2 gallons.

All of my meds are vac sealed.

I also make silver/crystal/stone earrings, and I keep the earring parts sealed to prevent tarnish.
 
Re: Flour: vacuum pack? Etc.

I adore my canning jar attachment to my vacuum food sealer. I also use it very frequently, in all sorts of ways. Understand that jar sealing flour and grains does not really remove all the oxygen. It does reduce it substantially. Placing a piece of dry ice (Carbon Dioxide is heavier than air) will slowly fill the jar or bag from the bottom, displacing the air along with its oxygen (about 20%)) This jar can then be evacuated and sealed

The same thing can be done with Nitrogen, however, you will need a flow from a tube inserted into the bottom of the container and allowed to fill up and push out any air. It takes some flow of Nitrogen because Nitrogen and air are about the same density. An oxygen absorber (food grade) can be added to scarf up any remaining oxygen molecule.

Insects will not grow in the absense of oxygen.
 
Re: Flour: vacuum pack? Etc.

My wife and I have quite a large supply of wheat berries, as well as beans and rice. As we also have a hand powered grain mill, we plan to keep the grain as is (sealed in double high density plastic containers) until we need it. Buggies or going rancid are non-issues. It's always fresh--and even after 7 years, in storage, it still sprouts.

We have enough to feed quite a few other households--for at least a few months.
 
Re: Flour: vacuum pack? Etc.

jlw said:
Hi,
They say flour keeps upto a year in the freezer, I use it even if it has been in there longer and it has always been fine just like when it was first opened. I always keep my flour in the freezer even after it has been open. As for any of your dry goods such as rice lentals , beans all of them can be stored in the freezer.

That's the problem, though, I don't have the freezer space for that - as I said, I only have a small, always nearly-full freezer. I can just about find space to freeze one bag at a time for 48 hours, but storing those things in the freezer is a non-starter. (No room for another freezer, either.) The advice may help another reader though!
 
Re: Flour: vacuum pack? Etc.

homestead said:
Ever since tiny black wormy things appeared in my 2 lb. bag of white rice earlier this year, I've been putting all my rice into the freezer for a couple of days before I store it.
That's what I was afraid someone would say - but thanks for saying it anyway :-)
 
Re: Flour: vacuum pack? Etc.

4-ABBA said:
As we also have a hand powered grain mill

Ah, that might well be my next gadget, so can I ask how much you've tried using it and what the experience is like? I was a bit wary that it might be impractical to actually grind enough flour for bread regularly with one.
 
Re: Flour: vacuum pack? Etc.

Shannon said:
Vacuuming is almost impossible with finely ground foods. I did use it for dried milk but it eventually ruined my machine. Someone long ago suggested putting a piece of paper toweling on top of finelly milled foods before vacuuming to help prevent as many fine particles as possible from being sucked into the machine. It works for a while but then the pump will eventually fail. So, my advice is to not use it unless it was a dire situation and the loss of your machine was a secondary consideration.

Did you try or consider sealing things like flour in their original paper bags, as suggested by Lynda? I don't want to ruin my machine but it sounds as though that worked for her... I take everyone's point that you can't get all the air out though.
 
Thanks everyone! Re: Flour: vacuum pack? Etc.

Thanks everyone! Re: Flour: vacuum pack? Etc.

Replying to every individual message is probably overkill, but thanks everyone for your input, very useful!
 
Re: Flour: vacuum pack? Etc.

Hand grinding wheat is a very labor intensive operation. You will gain a whole new perspective and appreciation for anyone who does this on a regular basis. It will give you some good exercise however when you are closeted at home. There are models that are easier to crank but the trade-off is it takes far longer to grind the flour. Our model has a handle that can be adapted so two people can turn the crank at one time.
 
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Mathematician said:
Ah, that might well be my next gadget, so can I ask how much you've tried using it and what the experience is like? I was a bit wary that it might be impractical to actually grind enough flour for bread regularly with one.

It works just fine. We have used it off and on for 8 years. I believe you can find them at a store called "Down to Earth" online.
 
Re: Flour: vacuum pack? Etc.

Hi,

I purchased flour in 5 lb bags (in US) and vac packed it (using a foodsaver from Tilia). I did not freeze it, since I believe the insects need oxygen to live. So far it's all been fine. When I've opened a bag (almost a year later) it has been bug free and fresh.
 
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I just found this article on flour consumption. I thought it was interesting:


Wheat: Background


Wheat?s Role in the U.S. Diet Has Changed Over the Decades

U.S. consumption of wheat products?such as breads, pastas, and pizza?dropped sharply beginning in 2000, reversing a three-decade trend of growth in per-capita consumption. Wheat consumption fell from an estimated 146 pounds per person in 2000 to 133 pounds in the mid-2000s, a change that may reflect public interest in lowering carbohydrate consumption. Interestingly, the rise in wheat consumption that started some 30 years ago was also triggered by health concerns. In the 1970s, American began shifting from animal products to grain-based foods, including wheat products, because of concerns about cholesterol and heart disease.

Historical data indicate that there have been previous periods of growth and decline in wheat consumption. From a low starting point in the 1600s, consumption of wheat flour rose to about 225 pounds per capita in 1880, and then fell to about 110 pounds a century later. These shifts reflected supply-side factors?including changes in wheat production, milling, and transportation?in addition to demand for more diversified diets.



Yeast Breads Limited in Colonial America


Wheat production was difficult in New England and in much of the South in the colonial era (1600s and 1700s), making wheat flour too expensive for regular use. High transportation costs also made long-distance transport of wheat and flour from regions better suited for wheat growing unprofitable. Therefore, colonists in these regions turned to other crops, especially corn. The wealthy were the principal consumers of wheat bread.

The high cost of wheat flour was not the only factor favoring cornmeal breads. Most baking took place either in Dutch ovens or in reflector ovens placed in the fireplace until the invention of the cast-iron, wood-fired cook stove in the 19th century. For homes without these stoves, it was easier to deal with cornmeal and nonyeast bread products prepared as baked-hearth flat breads.

Flour Cost Begins Falling in 18th Century

Milling costs dropped when Oliver Evans developed an improved milling system in 1790. This system took the wheat to the top of the mill by mechanical power, and carried it down by gravity through the grinding process. The Evans system reduced the labor needed in a mill by more than half. It also increased the flour extraction rate from wheat. Cyrus McCormick?s invention of the reaper in 1834 and John Deere?s steel plow in 1837 reduced production costs and stimulated wheat production. The reaper eliminated manual cutting of the crop and the steel plow greatly accelerated the rate at which the heavy prairie soils could be tilled.

In addition, early improvements in transportation infrastructure helped reduce flour cost to U.S. consumers, especially in areas where wheat was not widely grown. One early improvement was the Erie Canal. Later, railway expansion made a substantial difference. At mid-century, rail transport was one-tenth the cost of hauling grain overland by road.

New Hard Wheat Flours Support Consumer Demand in Second Half of 19th Century

Demand for bread was stimulated by the introduction of hard wheats and new milling techniques that changed the quality of the flour. Because hard wheats have higher protein content (see box), they were better suited for making bread than soft wheat.


Protein and Bread Making

The essential ingredients for leaven bread are flour, water, and yeast. As these ingredients are mixed together, enzymes in the yeast and flour cause starch to break down into simple sugars. Yeast metabolizes these simple sugars and releases carbon dioxide. With kneading, unique proteins in wheat flour form a sticky, stretchy substance called gluten. If the dough has a strong gluten network, the released carbon dioxide bubbles are held within the gluten, thereby inflating the dough. This rising of the dough creates the airy texture of bread. If the protein level of the wheat flour is too low, little gluten is formed, the carbon dioxide will escape and the dough will not rise enough to create the desired texture. About 11.5-percent wheat protein is necessary for common pan bread.




Until the 1870s, nearly all U.S. wheat production consisted of soft wheat varieties. A hard spring wheat variety (originally from Central Europe) with a higher protein content was introduced in Minnesota in mid-1800s. Westward expansion of the rail system allowed increasing quantities of hard wheat flour to move to the East after 1865. A little later, Mennonites from the Crimea brought with them a hard winter wheat variety when they immigrated to Kansas, where the main crop was corn. By 1890, Kansas was becoming an important wheat-producing State by growing hard wheat. Milling durum wheat produced in North Dakota began in 1904. After a few years, U.S. macaroni manufacturers switched away from imported durum.

When the new hard spring wheat was introduced, U.S. millers initially milled this grain with millstones. The resulting flour was not very desirable. When wheat was ground between millstones, all parts of the kernel were ground down together. When the resulting product was sifted through cloth, some of the smaller brownish particles of bran and the more yellowish parts from the germ (or embryo) also passed through. The stone-ground flour was therefore creamy in color with flecks of brown.

In 1880, millstone grinding was replaced by steel roller mill technology from Hungary. Roller mills provided a cleaner separation of the starch from the outer bran layers of the kernel, and the nearly complete removal of the germ and its oil. The result was finer, whiter flour that was highly valued by bread consumers. In addition, removal of the oil in the germ, which spoils quickly, and bran, which absorbs moisture, made a flour with longer shelf life.

New Wheat Products Change Breakfast in America

Historically, economic development has been accompanied by the substitution of meat for grain in the diet, and this was true in the United States starting in the 1870s. However, breakfast-food manufacturers promoted the opposite for breakfast. They convinced people to substitute highly processed grains for meat as healthy and convenient.

John Harvey Kellogg began experimenting with breakfast cereals in the 1870s, introducing a whole-wheat breakfast cereal in 1880 as a health-food product. This breakfast cereal was eventually named granola. Later, the Kellogg brothers created a wheat-flake breakfast cereal, called Granose, also as a health-food product. C.W. Post developed Postum in 1895 and then Grape-Nuts in 1898.

Cooked grain (porridge) was a common dish among the European immigrants in America in Colonial times. The Quaker Oats Company produced oatmeal, the first successful ready-to-cook cereal, in the 1870s. Later, Thomson Amidon discovered coarsely ground wheat could also be cooked into a breakfast cereal. Because of its color, he called it Cream of Wheat.

With new technologies, new products, and improved infrastructure?and the resulting lower costs?flour consumption rose during the 19th century. During the closing decades, consumption remained at very high levels as new and improved wheat products were introduced.

Flour Consumption Declines for the First Two-Thirds of the 20th Century

From 1890 until 1920, the greatest increase in food consumption occurred with sugar, and the greatest decrease was in cornmeal. Rising prosperity led to a pronounced shift from cornmeal to wheat flour, especially in the South, and an equally important substitution of sugar for wheat flour. Sugar prices had been dropping sharply since the 1850s with the development of improved refining technology.

After 1920, the substitution of wheat flour for cornmeal slowed, but per capita wheat flour consumption continued to drop. Part of the reason was a decrease in total per capita food requirements as fewer people engaged in heavy physical labor. Another factor was further substitution of sugar for flour in the diet. Moreover, diets were becoming more diversified to include more eggs, milk, fruits, and vegetables. Prices of these items fell as agriculture became more mechanized and transportation improved, making distribution more efficient. Refrigerated railway cars, for example, were especially important for perishable foodstuffs. This more expensive diet was also supported through rising consumer prosperity and increased awareness of the health benefits of a more diversified diet.

The decline in per capita wheat consumption slowed during the Great Depression and the world wars. After World War II, the decline resumed as people continued to diversify their diets. Supermarkets offered an increasing range of foodstuffs, and rising incomes allowed consumers to diversify their diet with more expensive food items.

A striking change in wheat flour use occurred in the past century. At the turn of the 20th century, home baking accounted for 90 percent of total flour consumption, with commercial bakeries accounting for 10 percent. By 1945, the bakery portion rose to 60 percent as home baking dropped with the entry of women into the workforce. By 1990, less than 10 percent of flour was consumed in the home.

Wheat-Product Consumption Starts to Rise Again in the 1970s

The decline in wheat consumption slowed during the 1960s, partly because consumers became increasingly aware of possible links between a diet high in animal products and cholesterol. Wheat products were viewed by many consumers at the time as a healthy, alternative food choice.

The rapid expansion of the fast-food industry also boosted per capita consumption of wheat products. These businesses, providing items such as sandwiches, hamburgers, breaded chicken, pizza, and bagels, spread rapidly in the 1970s and 1980s.

Fast food?s popularity stemmed from many factors, including:

  • Reduced food preparation time, which became increasingly important as more women entered the work force,
  • Greater number of people living alone and lacking the incentive to cook for one,
  • Convenience of fast-food restaurants, particularly for lunch,
  • Rising disposable incomes, and
  • Relatively reasonable prices.

These trends helped increase per capita wheat product consumption in the United States for the last quarter of the 20th century.

Wheat Product Consumption Levels Out as the United States Enters the 21st Century

Since the late 1990s, growth in per capita wheat consumption appears to have ended. Wheat flour consumption per capita has dropped about 12 pounds in the past half decade to 134 pounds per capita. The decline likely reflects, in part, the increasing numbers of weight-conscious consumers following diets that include fewer carbohydrates.

Another force reducing flour usage is the expanding production of extended shelf life (ESL) bread. New ESL technologies can double or even triple the shelf life of a fresh loaf, from several days to 10 or more. As a result, U.S. bakers reduced "stales" (bread that does not sell and is taken back by the baker) from as high as 15 percent of sales to less than 8 percent. Fewer stales directly reduces the quantity of flour required to supply the same level of consumer demand.


For more information, contact: Gary Vocke
Web administration: webadmin@ers.usda.gov

Updated date: July 21, 2006

http://www.ers.usda.gov/Briefing/Wheat/consumption.htm

With very little baking being done in the home, the transition to home baked goods will be very difficult during a pandemic. Many people lack the skills to do it.


There are people in the world so hungry, that God cannot appear to them except in the form of bread.?
~ Mahatma Gandhi ~
 
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