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Egypt's Health Minister denies H5N1 & "Swine Flu" coinfection

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"Health" denies mutation of avian flu in pigs, with
Tuesday, September 1st, 2009 - 19:55


Minister of Health Dr.. Gabali
Mona Zia


Denied the Ministry of Health through the Council of Ministers report daily to the situation of swine flu, the rumors about a mutation of the swine flu virus to one of the cases infected with avian influenza, upon his arrival at the port of Safaga from Umrah.

The ministry said that this pilgrim infected with swine flu in addition to the common flu and not bird flu, and his health is good and stable, and will leave the hospital within two days after the treatment, emphasizing the lack of any situation that the mutation of avian influenza in Egypt and that there is no marriage between him and the bird flu virus .

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:tiphat:Good find,RWilmer.
 
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That's still not good. That seems to indicate a co-infection with seasonal and pandemic flu, even if bird flu is not involved.
 
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Can I say "crap" here?

If this continues, would it make any vaccine now being produced useless?
 
Translation error-H5N1/H1N1 Virus coinfection suspected -promed

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H5N1/H1N1 VIRUS CO-INFECTION - EGYPT: ex SAUDI ARABIA, SUSPECTED,
REQUEST FOR INFORMATION
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Date: Sun 30 Aug 2009
Source: AlMasry AlYoum [in Arabic trans. Hussain Ayoub, paraphrased
and edited]



A sample taken from a 28 year-old man who arrived at the port of
Safaga from Saudi Arabia after performing Umrah [pilgrimage] has
tested positive for [both] bird and swine flu [that is, presumably avian
influenza (H5N1) virus and pandemic (H1N1) 2009 virus infections]. He
was immediately detained and held in isolation in a hospital in
Hurghada.
Mohammad Rifai, director-general of preventative medicine, stated that
this case is the 3rd in 2 days. [The other 2 are a 35-year-old Italian
tourist also retained at the hospital in Hurghada and] another
pilgrim, 30 years old, who has been detained in Safaga Central
Hospital. Rifai pointed out that a sample from a 38-year-old citizen
has tested negative.

Another 2 cases have been detained in Mansoura fever hospital on
suspicion of similar illness.

5 cases, including 4 children, suspected of having contracted
"bird flu" infection [presumably avian influenza (H5N1) virus
infection] have been detained in Mansoura Chest hospital.

[Byline: Mohamed Soliman]

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[Does the director-general of preventative medicine mean this case is
the 3rd in 2 days of *dual* infection? Unless both *viruses* were
detected in the patient, not simply positive antibody results, this
would be inconclusive, since Egypt has reported cases of H5N1
throughout 2009, and this person may have had a mild infection before
leaving for Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia has reported 285 cases (no
deaths) of H1N1 in 2009 -- see last case count of 22 July in ProMED
ref. below -- but it is also possible that the Egyptian
pilgrim(s) could have caught H1N1 from a pilgrim from another
H1N1-infected country.- Mod.JW]

[If this report is confirmed it raises the prospect of the potential
evolution by genome subunit reassortment of a highly transmissible
influenza virus like the pandemic (H1N1) 2009 virus with the enhanced
virulence of the avian (H5N1) virus. Further information is awaited
confirmatory or not, by laboratory analysis, of the occurrence of dual
infection. - Mod.CP]

[Port Safaga, in the Red Sea Governorate (El Bahr El Ahmar), can be
located on the HealthMap/ProMED-mail interactive map of Egypt at
. - Sr.Tech.Ed.MJ]

[see also:
Avian influenza, human (111): Egypt, 84th & 85th cases, WHO 20090901.3079
Influenza pandemic (H1N1) 2009 (14): case count 20090722.2599
2008
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Avian influenza (24): Saudi Arabia, China (Tibet), Bangladesh 20080129.0373
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:tiphat:Good WORK.
 
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Original Story

Injury pilgrims bird flu in pigs, and the Red Sea

Mr. Mohamed Soliman
The results of analysis of the sample was taken from "Ahmad Rifai Aelchensteoi" (28 years) from the pool seven Éjfél, who arrived to Safaga port yesterday, from Saudi Arabia after performing Umrah that bird flu, and pigs, and the sample is positive, and was detained Department isolation at the hospital hotel in Hurghada.

Dr. "Mohammad Rifai," Director General of preventive medicine to maintain, that this case is the third in two days, where tests confirmed positive samples and the existence of cases of Italian tourists, "Ilisu Monaco" (35 years), and was detained Hospital, Hurghada, also confirmed to the pilgrim, "Muhammad Lutfi age "(30 years), and was detained Safaga Central Hospital, Rifai pointed out that the results of the sample was taken from the citizen" Shukri Abdul Majid "(38 years) were negative.

The official said the detention of General Hospital of Minya after the girl confirmed to be infected pigs of bird, also detained in Mansoura Fever Hospital on Sunday, two on suspicion of injuries with the same disease, and doctors confirmed that the two cases were detained in hospital isolation room and took their samples to be sent to the Ministry of Health

On the other hand was detained in Mansoura Chest Hospital, five cases suspected of having the "bird flu", including four children.

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Yes it is. Someone needs to send that new story to promed.
 
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I think ProMed just got hosed. "Bird flu in pigs" is H1N1. There's no H5N1 involved. Here is the original article, before the editing by ProMed. I think the editor misunderstood the term "bird flu in pigs" to be a dual infection. The speculation at the end of the ProMed post would seem to support that conclusion ("third dual infection"?)

http://www.translate.google.com/tra...&pId=UG14&pType=1&sl=ar&tl=en&history_state0=

Injury pilgrims bird flu in pigs, and the Red Sea

محمد السيد سليمان Mr. Mohamed Soliman
أكدت نتائج التحاليل للعينة التي تم أخذها من "أحمد الشنشتاوي الرفاعي" (28 عاما) من بركة السبع منوفية، والذي وصل إلى ميناء سفاجا أمس الأول ، قادما من السعودية بعد أدائه مناسك العمرة أنه مصابا بأنفلونزا الطيور والخنازير، وان العينة إيجابية، وتم حجزه بقسم العزل بالمستشفى الفندقي بالغردقة . The results of analysis of the sample was taken from "Ahmad Rifai Aelchensteoi" (28 years) from the pool seven Éjfél, who arrived to Safaga port yesterday, from Saudi Arabia after performing Umrah that bird flu, and pigs, and the sample is positive, and was detained Department isolation at the hospital hotel in Hurghada.

وأكد الدكتور "محمد رفاعي" مدير عام الطب الوقائي بالمحافظة، أن هذه الحالة هي الحالة الثالثة خلال يومين حيث أكدت التحاليل إيجابية العينات وثبوت الإصابة للسائح الايطالي "أليسو موناكو" (35 عاما)، وتم حجزه بمستشفى الغردقة، كما تأكد إصابة المعتمر "محمد لطفي عمر" (30 عاما)، وتم حجزه بمستشفى سفاجا المركزي، وأشار رفاعي إلى أن نتائج العينة التي تم أخذها من المواطن "شكري عبد المجيد" (38 عاما) جاءت سلبية . Dr. "Mohammad Rifai," Director General of preventive medicine to maintain, that this case is the third in two days, where tests confirmed positive samples and the existence of cases of Italian tourists, "Ilisu Monaco" (35 years), and was detained Hospital, Hurghada, also confirmed to the pilgrim, "Muhammad Lutfi age "(30 years), and was detained Safaga Central Hospital, Rifai pointed out that the results of the sample was taken from the citizen" Shukri Abdul Majid "(38 years) were negative.

فيما أعلن مسئول بمستشفى المنيا العام احتجاز فتاه بعد التأكد من إصابتها بأنفلوانزا الخنازير، كما احتجزت مستشفى الحميات بالمنصورة اليوم الأحد حالتين للاشتباه في إصابتهما بنفس المرض، وأكد الأطباء أن الحالتين تم احتجازهما بغرفة العزل بالمستشفى واخذ عينات منهما لإرسالها لمعامل وزارة الصحة The official said the detention of General Hospital of Minya after the girl confirmed to be infected pigs of bird, also detained in Mansoura Fever Hospital on Sunday, two on suspicion of injuries with the same disease, and doctors confirmed that the two cases were detained in hospital isolation room and took their samples to be sent to the Ministry of Health



وعلى صعيد آخر احتجزت مستشفى الصدر بالمنصورة خمس حالات للإشتباه في إصابتهم بـ" أنفلونزا الطيور" بينهم أربع أطفال. On the other hand was detained in Mansoura Chest Hospital, five cases suspected of having the "bird flu", including four children.
 
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I think ProMed just got hosed. "Bird flu in pigs" is H1N1. There's no H5N1 involved. Here is the original article, before the editing by ProMed. I think the editor misunderstood hte term "bird flu in pigs" to be a dual infection. The speculation at the end of the ProMed post would seem to support that conclusion ("third dual infection"?)

http://www.translate.google.com/tra...&pId=UG14&pType=1&sl=ar&tl=en&history_state0=

Injury pilgrims bird flu in pigs, and the Red Sea

محمد السيد سليمان Mr. Mohamed Soliman
أكدت نتائج التحاليل للعينة التي تم أخذها من "أحمد الشنشتاوي الرفاعي" (28 عاما) من بركة السبع منوفية، والذي وصل إلى ميناء سفاجا أمس الأول ، قادما من السعودية بعد أدائه مناسك العمرة أنه مصابا بأنفلونزا الطيور والخنازير، وان العينة إيجابية، وتم حجزه بقسم العزل بالمستشفى الفندقي بالغردقة . The results of analysis of the sample was taken from "Ahmad Rifai Aelchensteoi" (28 years) from the pool seven ?jf?l, who arrived to Safaga port yesterday, from Saudi Arabia after performing Umrah that bird flu, and pigs, and the sample is positive, and was detained Department isolation at the hospital hotel in Hurghada.

وأكد الدكتور "محمد رفاعي" مدير عام الطب الوقائي بالمحافظة، أن هذه الحالة هي الحالة الثالثة خلال يومين حيث أكدت التحاليل إيجابية العينات وثبوت الإصابة للسائح الايطالي "أليسو موناكو" (35 عاما)، وتم حجزه بمستشفى الغردقة، كما تأكد إصابة المعتمر "محمد لطفي عمر" (30 عاما)، وتم حجزه بمستشفى سفاجا المركزي، وأشار رفاعي إلى أن نتائج العينة التي تم أخذها من المواطن "شكري عبد المجيد" (38 عاما) جاءت سلبية . Dr. "Mohammad Rifai," Director General of preventive medicine to maintain, that this case is the third in two days, where tests confirmed positive samples and the existence of cases of Italian tourists, "Ilisu Monaco" (35 years), and was detained Hospital, Hurghada, also confirmed to the pilgrim, "Muhammad Lutfi age "(30 years), and was detained Safaga Central Hospital, Rifai pointed out that the results of the sample was taken from the citizen" Shukri Abdul Majid "(38 years) were negative.

فيما أعلن مسئول بمستشفى المنيا العام احتجاز فتاه بعد التأكد من إصابتها بأنفلوانزا الخنازير، كما احتجزت مستشفى الحميات بالمنصورة اليوم الأحد حالتين للاشتباه في إصابتهما بنفس المرض، وأكد الأطباء أن الحالتين تم احتجازهما بغرفة العزل بالمستشفى واخذ عينات منهما لإرسالها لمعامل وزارة الصحة The official said the detention of General Hospital of Minya after the girl confirmed to be infected pigs of bird, also detained in Mansoura Fever Hospital on Sunday, two on suspicion of injuries with the same disease, and doctors confirmed that the two cases were detained in hospital isolation room and took their samples to be sent to the Ministry of Health



وعلى صعيد آخر احتجزت مستشفى الصدر بالمنصورة خمس حالات للإشتباه في إصابتهم بـ" أنفلونزا الطيور" بينهم أربع أطفال. On the other hand was detained in Mansoura Chest Hospital, five cases suspected of having the "bird flu", including four children.
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Oh I didn't see that.
 
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I haven't been newshounding Egypt since that Libyan plague scare, but I remember that part - "bird flu in pigs" is H1N1. It's how that source (or the translator) works. The ProMed article identifies itself as paraphrased and edited (although to those of us who follow ProMed in detail, this one should have been tagged as "heavily edited").
 
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I think you are right, Alert , they use the Bird flu in pigs statement all the time. I think it is a screwup,hopefully:tiphat:
 
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Read it carefully. They are not denying a co-infection. They are denying a mutation of H1N1. I don't think that article involves H5 either.
 
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I have to agree, its the editing from ProMed. I've never seen an article edited like that from ProMed. A commentary at the bottom, but not throughout the article.

The last sentence deals with Avian Flu.
 
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Commonground said:
I have to agree, its the editing from ProMed. I've never seen an article edited like that from ProMed. A commentary at the bottom, but not throughout the article.

The last sentence deals with Avian Flu.
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I've seen a few. But they usually get tagged as "heavily edited" or "extensively edited". The most recent was the one on anthrax in India where they had to heavily edit out references to the government reports killing people, instead of the disease.

The link for "extensively edited" is here:

http://www.promedmail.org/pls/otn/f...CHECK_DISPLAY,F2400_P1202_PUB_MAIL_ID:X,78489

I am a little disappointed that they posted this one, though.
 
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They specifically denied bird flu here.

"The ministry said that this pilgrim infected with swine flu in addition to the common flu and not bird flu, and his health is good and stable."

If it was a editing error then why did they specifically deny it in the first article of this thread?
 
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Could someone please send the first article of this thread to promed.
 
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