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Doctor raises bird-flu questions

Snowy Owl

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Doctor raises bird-flu questions

BY BRANDON STAHL - NEWS TRIBUNE STAFF WRITER - Posted on Thu, Apr. 27, 2006

http://www.duluthsuperior.com/mld/duluthsuperior/news/local/14440274.htm


Dr. Jeffrey Kahn, the director of the Center for Bioethics at the University of Minnesota, led an hourlong public discussion at the College of St. Scholastica on Wednesday about the tough questions society will face during a bird flu pandemic.

During the final presentation on bird flu at the school, Kahn said in his speech, titled "Avian Flu: Ethics of a Pandemic," that society will have to address who should live if a pandemic hits.

There is no vaccine to prevent bird flu, he said. If it were created before a pandemic hits, it would probably be in short supply and only a few people would be able to obtain it. Kahn said one big question would be if first reponders, old people or those most likely to survive should get the vaccine first.

"These are incredibly tough problems that we are not prepared to address," Kahn said.

Kahn said in an interview Tuesday that flu outbreaks have occurred often throughout history, but the last major outbreak happened in 1918 when up to 50 million people died, according to the World Health Organization. It's probable that the extended period of good luck will end, Kahn said.
"Why we've had such a quiet period isn't clear," he said. "But it has to be a foregone conclusion that flu will strike again."

So far, it appears that people can catch avian flu only from birds. More than 200 infections and 113 deaths have been reported worldwide, according to Linda VanEtta, an infectious disease physician at St. Luke's Hospital.

VanEtta, who opened the Wednesday night discussion, said that while there is no evidence that the avian flu virus has mutated to spread through human-to-human contact, the virus has spread through birds in 40 countries and is expected to hit North America this summer.

Despite that, she cited a recent poll showing that only 9 percent of Americans have prepared for flu.

Kahn said that's not nearly enough.

Civil liberties and individual rights, Kahn said, may also have to be drastically restricted in order to save the greatest number of people. For example, he said, if a vaccine were to be created, should people be required to receive it?

"That's coercive," he said. "We don't like being told you must do anything."

 
Re: Doctor raises bird-flu questions

Snowy owl,

"Civil liberties and individual rights, Kahn said, may also have to be drastically restricted in order to save the greatest number of people. For example, he said, if a vaccine were to be created, should people be required to receive it?

"That's coercive," he said. "We don't like being told you must do anything."

I have a very bad feeling about the unified message we are beginning to hear. Do you think they will attempt to experiment on the public and make a "vaccine" mandatory?
 
Re: Doctor raises bird-flu questions

Roman,

You are right, these messages are beying said from many lately.

Yes it looks like we are heading towards that directions.

Today or tomorrow we might have a clearer idea, once the final plan will be release.

Before this plan release we can only speculate, I think we should wait for the plan before reacting, it is only matter of days.
 
Re: Doctor raises bird-flu questions

Roman, in a 'force majeure' context, these rights becomes nonobstant.
 
Re: Doctor raises bird-flu questions

snowy owl,
I understand, The pharma business has been creeping toward this moment for a long time. I hope parents understand what this can mean for the health of their children. They are truly experimenting on our kids. It's simply wrong and in some cases "evil".
 
Re: Doctor raises bird-flu questions

Roman, I would suggest you start a thread of quality about vaccine, this will help specially parents that are asking themselves questions, many will be ambivalent about this, and it is legitimate in my opinion.

But please do not post about the conspiracy, let's focus on facts, not only it will help parents to make their decisions but the references, by being solid and accurate will help many parents in their decisions.

As I say, ech day out of a pandemic is good for all.
 
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