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Discussion Thread I - 2019-nCov (new coronavirus)

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[h=1]Beijing professor, human-to-human potential new type pneumonia, explosive fears[/h]
1/20 (Monday) 19:34 delivery


 [Beijing joint] Regarding pneumonia caused by the new coronavirus, which is spreading in China,Professor Wang Yutan (Immunology) of the Beijing University School of Medicine said, "People are infected from person to person" after the number of cases has increased significantly. The possibilities are very large. " The Chinese newspaper, Shin-Kyoho (electronic version) reported on the 20th. ..:tiphat:https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/hl?a=20200120-00000147-kyodonews-soci
 
[h=1]:tiphat:still looking

China's new pneumonia, healthcare workers in Guangzhou are also reported to be infected
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Jan 20, 2020 17:15
A sixth clinic attached to Zhongshan University in Guangzhou, Guangdong Province, posted on Weibo yesterday to deny that medical personnel at the hospital had been infected with the new coronavirus, but later deleted the post ( Screenshot from Weibo)It has been reported that pneumonia caused by the new coronavirus in Wuhan City, Hubei Province, China has spread to Beijing and Shenzhen, Guangdong, as well as cases of infection at hospitals in Guangzhou.

On the Internet, a medical professional at Zhongshan University's sixth clinic in Guangzhou and the Army General Clinic recently reported that some people were infected with the new coronavirus pneumonia. In response, on January 18, the sixth clinic attached to Nakayama University issued a statement on SNS's "Micro Expo", claiming that "it was not the case." However, the statement was later deleted, causing external speculation...:tiphat:https://www.epochtimes.jp/p/2020/01/50840.html#.XiW6LJGQMxk.twitter
 
...Gao Fu: We are fighting a "war" against virus mutation

Gao Fu, an academician of the Chinese Academy of Sciences and director of the China Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, pointed out that the new coronavirus is also changing, adapting to the environment and human beings, so this "war" is a "war" of prevention and control and virus mutation.....:tiphat:http://news.cnhubei.com/content/2020-01/20/content_12633901.html?spm=zm1033-001.0.0.1.r8RwhE
 
[h=1]Zhong Nanshan: 14 medical staff infected with new coronavirus pneumonia[/h] 2020.01.20 23:07:07 CCTVOriginal title: Zhong Nanshan: Pneumonia epidemic of new coronavirus infection presents human-to-human characteristics and 14 medical staff infected

Zhong Nanshan, academician of the Chinese Academy of Engineering, leader of the high-level expert group of the National Health and Health Commission: More than 95% have a relationship with Wuhan. Having been to Wuhan and coming from Wuhan is a feature. The second characteristic is that human infection has been confirmed. It is confirmed that there is human infection in two regions, one in Guangdong and one in Wuhan. The third feature also confirmed the infection of medical staff. Then these three conditions and the infection of medical staff finally confirmed that the infection around the patients with the new coronavirus was caused by 14 medical staff in all aspects of care.

Academician Zhong Nanshan said that the occurrence of human-to-human transmission and medical staff infection was a very important sign. The reason for the increased number of cases is more complicated...
:tiphat:https://news.sina.cn/gn/2020-01-20/detail-iihnzhha3784842.d.html?vt=4&pos=8&cid=56261
 
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Wuhan pneumonia endangers stability, Xi Jinping orders resolute containment

issuing time: 20/01/2020-17:14

The pneumonia epidemic in Wuhan, China, has been delayed for many days. Chinese officials mobilized today. President Xi Jinping issued instructions. Prime Minister Li Keqiang also gave a speech. The official media published articles on the outbreak to point out prevention knowledge. China WeChat Weibo also lifted the ban on the content of Wuhan pneumonia epidemic. The Central News Agency said that Xi Jinping's speech stressed the need to "resolutely maintain the stability of the overall society."

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http://www.rfi.fr/cn/%E4%B8%AD%E5%9B...81%8F%E5%88%B6
 
..[Editorial Committee of HKBU] According to Lin Yingze, deputy director of the internal affairs of the Student Council, a Chinese student on the 15th floor of the north building of the undergraduate student hall reported that he had been diagnosed with pneumonia after seeking medical treatment in Shenzhen a few days ago. Still staying in the dormitory... [h=5]Hong Kong Baptist University Students' Union Editorial Board[/h] 1 hr ?
[00:20] Update: The sick Chinese student has posted a message on the Whatsapp group by himself, saying that he has been examined at Queen Elizabeth Hospital and was diagnosed with mild pneumonia caused by a long-term cold. It has nothing to do with Wuhan pneumonia and has not visited recently. Wuhan.
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"I asked a doctor, it's true. Four people were deceased just in his ward, numerous medical staff were infected" "He's from the Central Hospital of Wuhan (No.2), and he is not even from the respiratory ward" [4/4]:tiphat:https://twitter.com/WBYeats1865/stat...27143626203137"



This is not unexpected based on the experience Saudi Arabia has had with MERS. A slip-up in hospital infectious disease control might be the cause.
 
Except MERS is known to have about a 35% CFR, at least among cases severe enough to be hospitalized. If this virus really is much milder, you wouldn't expect that. This argues that this virus may be more severe than previously thought.

Remember that the estimated CFR of SARS was revised upwards at several times during the epidemic as better information came in. (Remember also that the estimated CFR of H1N1 was revised downward repeatedly as the virus spread. At this point, we just don't know.)
 
In Saudi, HCWs infected patients I believe...the ones that had underlying conditions died...this too may have happened at the hospital where HCWs were ill. I don't believe we know the CRF for nCov at this time.

On another matter...I read that the health authorities have narrowed it down to two districts in Wuhan with the largest concentration of cases and where they believe the source of the virus originated. They are looking into the markets that service those areas and I would think, the persons who supply the wildlife to those markets. It's just a matter to time before they identify the host animal. My question tho, is how sanitary are those markets? I presume they do slaughtering therein and dump the entrails. How accessible are cats and vermin (mice/rats) to those entrails and could they become efficient hosts and shed the the virus therein? If so, this become an long-lasting endemic problem?
 
Brisbane man and novel coronavirus suspected

[h=4]A Brisbane man is in isolation and will undergo further tests, after presenting with symptoms of the coronavirus following a trip to China.[/h]
Queensland's chief health officer Jeneatte Young announced on Tuesday the man was being held in isolation at home as further tests are carried out, after he developed symptoms of a respiratory illness.

Earlier tests, after he returned from the Chinese city of Wuhan -- the epicentre of the virus outbreak -- and showed symptoms of the virus, proved inconclusive...."
https://10daily.com.au/news/austral...stralia-after-man-returns-from-china-20200121
 
Possible new suspected case in Taiwan:

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There was a 39-year-old woman at the Hualien Mengnuo Hospital due to fever and cough at 10 am this morning. After questioning, the hospital found that she had just returned from Wuhan last Thursday (16th) and started to have fever yesterday (20th) due to symptoms.

Similar to Wuhan pneumonia, the hospital is isolating the underlying cause, and the Taiwan Health Service's Disease Control Bureau was informed of the suspected case, and immediately sent staff to the scene to understand the situation.

https://hk.news.appledaily.com/local...LH4XQ2FN6TQY4/
 
[h=1]Masks on sale: 3M and other brands of e-commerce flagship store masks sold out of stock[/h] January 21, 2020 14:21 Source: China and Singapore Jingwei Wu Yuxin

  On January 21, the official of the National Health and Health Commission issued a news that new pneumococcal infections were included in the management of class B infectious diseases.

  Affected by the above epidemic situation, some e-commerce platforms, such as Kefu medical masks and 3M masks, have been selling well, especially the 3M KN95 series masks, which were mainly anti-haze, anti-dust, and anti-virus. In 3M self-operated stores on multiple e-commerce platforms, In a "out of stock", "out of stock" state.

  On January 21, a surging news reporter found that in Tmall's 3M official flagship store, a number of products were out of stock. "3M industrial-grade masks KN95" and "3M children's masks, dust and flu prevention" all showed that the current inventory was sold out Even the "3M masks windproof and pollen-proof" and "3M Nishikang masks" often show "out of stock" when placing orders.

  Among them, the KN95 series costs 15 yuan to 178 yuan depending on the model. The 3M children's masks are priced at about 23.6 yuan, and the 3M Nishikang masks are priced at about 23 yuan.

  In the Tmall supermarket search box, "masks" became a hot search term. The search results showed that products such as "3M earband anti-haze masks" and "3M dustproof and anti-haze masks" can be shipped during the Spring Festival, but when the reporter placed an order At the time, the page said "the area is sold out", even if the reporter changed the address to Jing'an District, Huangpu District, Jiading District, Putuo District, it is still out of stock.

  In addition, the "Japanese pitta masks", "Corfu disposable medical masks" and "Famous top-quality disposable masks" in Tmall supermarket also show that "the area is not available". The more popular Japanese pitta masks are priced at 49 yuan, and the Kefu disposable medical masks are priced at 25.8 yuan.

  In the Jingdong 3M Masks flagship store, search for "KN95", display "Out of stock", search for "KN90", "9502VT", "9501V", "9501V +", "3M Cognex Kang" and other keywords are displayed Sold Out. Depending on the type and number of masks, the price of 3M masks ranges from 29.9 yuan to 179 yuan. Among them, the unit price of KN95 masks is more than 5 yuan to 10 yuan. 

  On the Suning platform, "wear a mask and stay away from viruses" has become a hot search recommendation, but in 3M Suning's own flagship store, "KN95", "3M dust masks", "genuine 3M gas masks" and other products are no longer available. goods. The price of Suning's 3M masks is similar to that of JD. The box price is between 29.9 yuan and 189 yuan, and the KN95 single pack costs about 6 yuan.

  In addition, in Kefu Suning's self-operated flagship store, two medical masks also showed "out of stock in the region", and the single mask price ranged from 0.2 yuan to 0.6 yuan.

  It is worth noting that in the third-party shops on JD.com, Taobao, and Suning platforms, there are still Corfu disposable masks and 3M series masks on sale, including KN95. As of the press release of the surging news reporter, Tmall, JD.com and Suning did not release data on the sales of masks on the platform.

  CCTV News reported on January 20 that as of 20:00 on January 20, a total of 218 cases of new coronavirus pneumonia were confirmed in China (198 in Wuhan, 5 in Beijing, 14 in Guangdong, and 1 in Shanghai). At 18:00 on January 20, Japan reported one confirmed case, Thailand reported two confirmed cases, and South Korea reported one confirmed case.

  On the evening of January 20, according to CCTV news reports, Academician Zhong Nanshan said that according to the current data, the new type of coronavirus pneumonia is a sure human-to-human transmission. There were 2 cases in Guangdong. They have not been to Wuhan, but their family members got infected after going to Wuhan With the new type of coronavirus pneumonia, it can now be said that for sure, there is a human-to-human phenomenon. Zhong Nanshan suggested not to go to Wuhan without special circumstances. If you have a cold, go to a fever clinic and wear a mask. Actually, it is not necessary to wear N95 masks. General masks can block most of the droplets with viruses from entering the respiratory tract, and it is still useful to prevent new coronaviruses.

  According to information released by the Wuhan Municipal Health and Medical Commission, winter and spring are the seasons when respiratory infectious diseases are high, and also the period when viral pneumonia is high. Experts advise that citizens should pay attention to cold protection, indoor ventilation and personal hygiene, strengthen physical exercise, maintain a light diet, and avoid activities in crowded places. Wear a face mask or cover your mouth and nose with tissues or clothing when you have a cough or sneeze to reduce the spread of germs. Pay close attention to symptoms such as fever and cough. Seek immediate medical attention when such symptoms occur.

zhttp://www.ce.cn/cysc/newmain/yc/jsxw/202001/21/t20200121_34171266.shtml
 
A person tests positive for new coronavirus, sent to China CDCP for confirming test - another new province - Guizhou:

One suspected case of pneumonitis infected with new coronavirus was found in Guiyang


2020-01-21 14:39:51

On January 21, a suspected new coronavirus patient was found in Guiyang. The patient returned to Guiyang from Wuhan on January 12, and in the early morning of January 21, the virus laboratory test of the patient's sample sent by the Provincial CDC showed that it was positive for the new coronavirus. The Provincial Center for Disease Control and Prevention has sent the specimens to the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention for review in accordance with the prevention and control specifications, and reported it to the expert group of the National Health and Health Commission for further identification.

  On January 21, a suspected new coronavirus patient was found in Guiyang. The patient returned to Guiyang from Wuhan on January 12, and in the early morning of January 21, the virus laboratory test of the patient's sample sent by the Provincial CDC showed that it was positive for the new coronavirus. The Provincial Center for Disease Control and Prevention has sent the specimens to the Chinese Center for Disease Control and Prevention for review in accordance with the prevention and control specifications, and reported it to the expert group of the National Health and Health Commission for further identification. The health department of Guiyang will release relevant information to the society as soon as possible according to the results of the national expert group. At present, the suspected case has been arranged to enter the quarantine area for treatment. (Beijing News)

zhttp://finance.jrj.com.cn/2020/01/21143928713007.shtml
 
...The current situation is "two red lights". The first is that the number of confirmed cases has risen in a short time, and the second is the epidemic situation. It has spread widely outside Wuhan, and it is estimated that the virus is adapting or has adapted to human-to-human transmission.

He Bailiang said that what is most worrying is that some of the current cases have exceeded the 14-day surveillance period, and some people who were not included in the surveillance also have the disease. It is estimated that the actual number of infected patients in Wuhan is more than the number of confirmed diagnoses...:tiphat:http://news.wenweipo.com/2020/01/21/IN2001210006.htm
 
...Yuan Guoyong said that the South China seafood market in Wuhan has been closed. It has been noted that bamboo rats are suspected to be the source, but no evidence has been established. Yuan Guoyong emphasized that he did not believe that the mainland authorities had concealed the epidemic, nor did he have any request to dilute the epidemic..:rolleyes:http://news.wenweipo.com/2020/01/21/IN2001210072.htm
 
...Reporter asked Zhong Nanshan: Currently the virus has been transmitted from person to person. What measures will be taken to reduce transmission?

Zhong Nanshan: People-to-people have been confirmed in Wuhan and Guangdong.

Wuhan is contagious between medical staff and patients.


The first should be isolation of the patient. From the perspective of the transmission of coronavirus, it is usually the respiratory tract, which is not very far away, with droplets.

The virus is usually hidden in the droplets, so that the patient is well isolated, and it is effective to prevent him from contacting healthy people.

Second, Guangdong has taken effective measures. After the cases in Zhuhai and Shenzhen were infected, I did not hear that they infected others. If the "next generation" is passed down from person to person, it will spread soon.

Third, the bigger concern now is the emergence of super communicators.

Fourth, there is no effective medicine.
:tiphat:http://news.ycwb.com/2020-01/21/content_30486484.htm
 
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