• FluTrackers.com Inc. does not provide medical advice. Information on this web site is collected from various internet resources, and the FluTrackers board of directors makes no warranty to the safety, efficacy, correctness or completeness of the information posted on this site by any author or poster. The information collated here is for instructional and/or discussion purposes only and is NOT intended to diagnose or treat any disease, illness, or other medical condition. Every individual reader or poster should seek advice from their personal physician/healthcare practitioner before considering or using any interventions that are discussed on this website. By continuing to access this website you agree to consult your personal physican before using any interventions posted on this website, and you agree to hold harmless FluTrackers.com Inc., the board of directors, the members, and all authors and posters for any effects from use of any medication, supplement, vitamin or other substance, device, intervention, etc. mentioned in posts on this website, or other internet venues referenced in posts on this website.
  • We are not asking for any donations. Do not donate to any entity who says they are raising funds for us.

Discussion: Expanding Bandung Cluster

HenryN

Retired
Two patients ?Suspect? Bird Flu entered RSUD Tasikmalaya</PRE>
http://www.pikiran-rakyat.com/cetak/2006/092006/29/0101.htm</PRE>
TJ Finally MeninggalBandung, (HOMEWORK).- After being treated five days in Handsome Sadikin Space of the Hospital Poinciana Tree (RSHS) Bandung, suspect bird flu had the initials TJ (20), finally died on Thursday (28/9) struck 2.20 WIB. On The Same Day, casualties's cousin, San (18), that took part in delivering the TJ body to Garut, entered RSHS Poinciana Tree Space and was stated as suspect bird flu.The OFFICIAL of the Handsome Hospital morgue of Sadikin Bandung carried the coffin ?suspect? bird flu, TJ (20) to be brought to the ambulance, on Thursday (28/9).Beforehand, TJ was stated positive contracted the virus H5N1 (Avian influenza/AI) in the second sample test.ANDRI GURNITA/HOMEWORK ?Pasien TJ that was treated since Sunday and confirmed H5N1, last night died struck 2.20 WIB,? said the Managing Director RSHS Bandung, Dr. Cissy R. Sudjana the officer, in press information, in his office, on Thursday (28/9).According to Dr. Cissy, the TJ situation since being treated in RSHS has been bad although could improve the next day (on Monday, 25/9).?Pukul sembilan his situation night worsened, and struck one morning began to have the disturbance pernapasan,? he said.The disturbance of breathing that was experienced by TJ, very great.Efforts resusitasi (bantuan breathing made use of oxygen, red), only remained through to struck 02.20 WIB to the end TJ blew out the last breath.In accordance with the procedure continue to the handling of the body of the bird flu patient, the TJ body was wrapped in the pocket of the body.Approximately struck 5.30 WIB, the body was despatched to Kp.Probe the Stone, the Sukaratu Village, Kec.Banyuresmi, Kab.Garut to be buried in the funeral of the family.Therefore, casualties died resulting from the bird flu virus in West Java till at this time 19 people from 23 people who were stated positive.According to Kasubdin environmental Sanitation in the West Javanese Health Service, Dr. Fatimah Resmiati, suspect bird flu has spread in 18 regencies and the available city in West Java.Now, according to the note of RSHS Bandung, the number of patients suspect bird flu that had been treated by as many as 57 people.?Delapan including being stated positive and six including dying dunia,? said Dr. Cissy.The previous day, the Section Head West Javanese Livestock Breeding, Rachmat Setiadi, stated, the bird flu virus attacked the poultry in 22 from 25 cities/kab.In West Java.On the same day, San that remained at one house with TJ, was run off with to Poinciana Tree Space and was stated as suspect.San arrived in RSHS approximately struck 14.00 WIB.According to Ayi Sumaryati, the official of the field of the Community Health Centre of Kiaracondong Bandung, since the inspection on Tuesday (26/9), San has shown signs like the cough, pilek, and the fever.Therefore, the community health centre side at once wrote the recipe took the form of vitamin C, medicine pereda flu and medicine penurun hot, to prevent the condition more serious.?Kemudian on Wednesday (27/9) we took his blood for the inspection more comprehensive, but the San condition at that time still was not yet really healthy.And today (Thursday-red.) the determination for the inspection again, enggak knew him he went along to Garut,? said Ayi.
Apart from San, he also worried one of the neighbours TJ, Gugun Useful (19), that already five days showed the cough and the fever.However, when being checked by the community health centre side, his body heat has begun to descend to 36.2 Celsius levels.Gugun that yesterday was met in his house, more chose quiet.He only hoped bird flu medicine could be immediately found.?Gugun quite frightened was infected, his matter he often to the side of (the TJ house).Even, several days ago he could sleep in the room TJ,? said roses (21), the nephew TJ.In the meantime, the brother TJ, IM that was treated in RSHS was stated by the negative contracted the virus H5N1.That was based on results of the second sample test by Balitbangkes in Jakarta.AntarmanusiaTouched on concerning the demographic factor of the Bandung City that densely-populated, till at this time, did not yet have the explanation concerning the influence of the geographical location on the process of the spread of the virus of AI. ?Namun, must have special vigilance because of having the indication of the spread antarmanusia,? said the Head of the Centre of the tropics Illness and the Infection (TDIC) the Airlangga University, Dr. C. A. Nidom.Beforehand, Dr. Nidom had expected the existence of the spread antarmanusia.The case of bird flu in the Bandung City, continued he, increasingly strengthened his assumption.Moreover, Dr. Nidom also believe in had also the role of the functioning other mammal as the virus adaptor.He suspected the dog that ate chicken carcasses of playing a role as the virus adaptor.The patient in TasikIn the meantime, two patients suspect bird flu namely Atg (50) and his child, Mus (13), from the Cilumajang Village, Kec.Kawalu, the Tasikmalaya City, entered space of the isolation of the regional Public Hospital (RSUD) the Tasikmalaya City, on Thursday (28/9) struck 16.00 WIB. the two patients, already almost a week experienced the high fever, coughs, and breathless.According to NY.Mae, the wife Atg, beforehand had 20 chickens belonging to the Atg family that died suddenly.This chicken was taken his sample, to be researched by the Livestock Breeding Service, the Tasikmalaya City.The section head the Health of the Tasikmalaya City, Dr. Ahmad Haris, said, his side has coordinated with Dinkes West Java.Hoped, the team from Dinkes West Java on Friday morning (29/9), has been in RSUD Tasikmalaya.That not yet KLBAlthough again emerged the case suspect bird flu that was stated positive, West Java was not yet stated berstatus the extraordinary incident (KLB).That was sent by West Javanese Governor Danny Setiawan, after being in a meeting Plenary DPRD West Java on Thursday (28/9).Added, various methods could be carried out for the control of the spreading of the AI virus, with the condition for the community's participation and all the related side.?Upaya like bio security, the mass poultry inspection, stamping out (the separation of the settlement with livestock breeding -- red.), and the control of the poultry traffic.Could not be done by the government saja,? he said.Was based on the data, the AI plague in West Java the first time happened to mid September 2003 in Kab.Bogor.Up until the end of 2003, spread to 7 kab./the city.To 2003-2004 the number of deaths of the poultry reached 1.779.425 (27,68% of the population).Between 2004 s.D in September 2006, the status of the incident has been sporadic-plague.Gotten in 141 villages, 94 subdistricts to 21 kab./the city.The number of deaths of the poultry 83.726, consist of 50.200 chickens pedaging, 1.312 tails of the layer, 12.562 chickens talk to, 30 Bangkok chickens, 339 ducks, 19.239 birds puyuh, and 44 birds.(A-64/A-97/A-156/A-154/A-158) </PRE></PRE>
</PRE>
 
Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Edit does seem to work so I will post relevant paragraphs seperately:

After being treated five days in Handsome Sadikin Space of the Hospital Poinciana Tree (RSHS) Bandung, suspect bird flu had the initials TJ (20), finally died on Thursday (28/9) struck 2.20 WIB. On The Same Day, casualties's cousin, San (18), that took part in delivering the TJ body to Garut, entered RSHS Poinciana Tree Space and was stated as suspect bird flu.
 
Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Dear Friends,
There is no need to panic, indeed it will do no good whatsoever, but gird yourselves for a stressful set of reports coming out of Indonesia. Everything seems to be going wrong. In summary, the focus appears to be in three general areas right now.

The first is in the Medan-Karo-Karangrejo area--this is the area with the widely reported Karo cluster, followed in August by a large Karangrejo cluster of about 9--that was subsequently discounted, and now more cases being taken to Medan every other day.

The second is the southern part of the island of Sulawesi, in which there have been several groups of people, some confirmed, others suspected.

The third and most concerning however is the Garut-Tasikmalaya-Bandung area. In May and June there were two clusters, one involving a reporter you will recall, and the other with 4 dead siblings, suspected nurse, etc. This area blossomed into attention when the Garut cluster in Cikelet began in early August, in which several people died, and 20 or so were sick. They subsequently blanketed Cikelet with Tamiflu. Then, a family visited Garut and returned to Bandung, the two boys have now died, their sister is sick with what we're told is H1N1, their cousin San is now hospitalized, and their friend and neighbor Gugun, who used to stay with them, is now sick. Additionally, two other neighboring youth are very sick. Finally, in the district next door to Garut of Tasikmalaya, we have Atg and his/her son Mus hospitalized now. It remains to be seen if they have any relationship to Garut.
 
Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Apart from San, he also worried one of the neighbours TJ, Gugun Useful (19), that already five days showed the cough and the fever.

However, when being checked by the community health centre side, his body heat has begun to descend to 36.2 Celsius levels. Gugun that yesterday was met in his house, more chose quiet.He only hoped bird flu medicine could be immediately found.?Gugun quite frightened was infected, his matter he often to the side of (the TJ house).

Even, several days ago he could sleep in the room TJ,? said roses (21), the nephew TJ.In the meantime, the brother TJ, IM that was treated in RSHS was stated by the negative contracted the virus H5N1.
 
Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

?Namun, must have special vigilance because of having the indication of the spread antarmanusia,? said the Head of the Centre of the tropics Illness and the Infection (TDIC) the Airlangga University, Dr. C. A. Nidom.

Beforehand, Dr. Nidom had expected the existence of the spread antarmanusia. The case of bird flu in the Bandung City, continued he, increasingly strengthened his assumption.

Moreover, Dr. Nidom also believe in had also the role of the functioning other mammal as the virus adaptor.

He suspected the dog that ate chicken carcasses of playing a role as the virus adaptor.
 
Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

The patient in TasikIn the meantime, two patients suspect bird flu namely Atg (50) and his child, Mus (13), from the Cilumajang Village, Kec.Kawalu, the Tasikmalaya City, entered space of the isolation of the regional Public Hospital (RSUD) the Tasikmalaya City, on Thursday (28/9) struck 16.00 WIB.

the two patients, already almost a week experienced the high fever, coughs, and breathless.According to NY.Mae, the wife Atg, beforehand had 20 chickens belonging to the Atg family that died suddenly.

This chicken was taken his sample, to be researched by the Livestock Breeding Service, the Tasikmalaya City.The section head the Health of the Tasikmalaya City, Dr. Ahmad Haris, said, his side has coordinated with Dinkes West Java
 
Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Oh boy, now I'm confused. I'll take it apart in the morning. One question: These people have nothing to do with the others, right? Different town?

The patient in TasikIn the meantime, two patients suspect bird flu namely Atg (50) and his child, Mus (13), from the Cilumajang Village, Kec.Kawalu, the Tasikmalaya City,


This is confusing:

Apart from San, he also worried one of the neighbours TJ, Gugun Useful (19), that already five days showed the cough and the fever.However, when being checked by the community health centre side, his body heat has begun to descend to 36.2 Celsius levels.Gugun that yesterday was met in his house, more chose quiet.He only hoped bird flu medicine could be immediately found.?Gugun quite frightened was infected, his matter he often to the side of (the TJ house).Even, several days ago he could sleep in the room TJ,? said roses (21), the nephew TJ.In the meantime, the brother TJ, IM that was treated in RSHS was stated by the negative contracted the virus H5N1.That was based on results of the second sample test by Balitbangkes in Jakarta.
 
Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Commonground said:
Oh boy, now I'm confused. I'll take it apart in the morning. One question: These people have nothing to do with the others, right? Different town?

The patient in TasikIn the meantime, two patients suspect bird flu namely Atg (50) and his child, Mus (13), from the Cilumajang Village, Kec.Kawalu, the Tasikmalaya City,

Yes, this is another location, but there have been problems stretching from Cikelet in Garut to Bundung and these cases have been quite steady for a couple of months now.
 
Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Thanks again Dr. Niman.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Yes, different town, different district altogether, but not all that far away--20 miles east of the hometown of the Bandung family.

Even, several days ago he could sleep in the room TJ,? said roses (21), the nephew TJ.

I also have a bad feeling that we'll be hearing about "Roses"' hospitalization in four or five days... Anyone who knows which rooms all these infected people sleep in has got to be in danger.
 
Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

From post by Niman at top, looks like quail have been dying for awhile to have this kind of total number deaths for that area!




To 2003-2004 the number of deaths of the poultry reached 1.779.425 (27,68% of the population).Between 2004 s.D in September 2006, the status of the incident has been sporadic-plague.Gotten in 141 villages, 94 subdistricts to 21 kab./the city.The number of deaths of the poultry 83.726, consist of 50.200 chickens pedaging, 1.312 tails of the layer, 12.562 chickens talk to, 30 Bangkok chickens, 339 ducks, 19.239 birds puyuh, and 44 birds.(A-64/A-97/A-156/A-154/A-158)
 
Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

?Namun, must have special vigilance because of having the indication of the spread antarmanusia,?



Whaaaat? Please, what is that? Another way of saying bird flu? Or is this something else that is spreading WITH bird flu? :surrender:
 
Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Daisy said:
?Namun, must have special vigilance because of having the indication of the spread antarmanusia,?



Whaaaat? Please, what is that? Another way of saying bird flu? Or is this something else that is spreading WITH bird flu? :surrender:

He is talking about H2H
 
Re: Discussion: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Thanks for this post Dr. N. Your analysis and observations are eerily accurate as validated in recent reports. Taking the time now to read through the Indo articles now which requires time and concentration. Implication here is bad. Clusters busting out all over the place.

Interesting observation from Nidom:

Moreover, Dr. Nidom also believe in had also the role of the functioning other mammal as the virus adaptor.He suspected the dog that ate chicken carcasses of playing a role as the virus adaptor.
 
Re: Discussion: Expanding Bandung Cluster

PonyGirl said:
Thanks for this post Dr. N. Your analysis and observations are eerily accurate as validated in recent reports. Taking the time now to read through the Indo articles now which requires time and concentration. Implication here is bad. Clusters busting out all over the place.

Interesting observation from Nidom:

Moreover, Dr. Nidom also believe in had also the role of the functioning other mammal as the virus adaptor.He suspected the dog that ate chicken carcasses of playing a role as the virus adaptor.

Nidom is looking for H5N1 in cats. Maybe he already has some additional info.
 
Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

niman said:
Apart from San, he also worried one of the neighbours TJ, Gugun Useful (19), that already five days showed the cough and the fever.

However, when being checked by the community health centre side, his body heat has begun to descend to 36.2 Celsius levels. Gugun that yesterday was met in his house, more chose quiet.He only hoped bird flu medicine could be immediately found.?Gugun quite frightened was infected, his matter he often to the side of (the TJ house).

Even, several days ago he could sleep in the room TJ,? said roses (21), the nephew TJ.In the meantime, the brother TJ, IM that was treated in RSHS was stated by the negative contracted the virus H5N1.
Gugun Useful = Gugun Gunawan (19) who was mentioned here:
(Previous Bandung cluster thread) said:
They were Gugun Gunawan (19) that claimed experienced hot since the last four days, Hani (21) that felt very stiff, and Santi (20) that suffered pilek, the cough, and the fever.

http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=34839&postcount=76
I wonder if Santi = San? The ages don't match.
 
Re: Discussion: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Niman said:
The patient in Tasik

In the meantime, two patients suspect bird flu namely Atg (50) and his child, Mus (13), from the Cilumajang Village, Kec.Kawalu, the Tasikmalaya City, entered space of the isolation of the regional Public Hospital (RSUD) the Tasikmalaya City, on Thursday (28/9) struck 16.00 WIB. the two patients, already almost a week experienced the high fever, coughs, and breathless.

According to NY. Mae, the wife Atg, beforehand had 20 chickens belonging to the Atg family that died suddenly. This chicken was taken his sample, to be researched by the Livestock Breeding Service, the Tasikmalaya City.
Ca. 600 poultry died from H5N1 in Taskimalaya just last week -- several thousand chickens were also culled:

http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=32370&postcount=6
 
Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

niman said:
He is talking about H2H

Thanks Dr. Niman. I come from a environmental policy/legislative background not medical. I think that some of us on this site (ok, at least me) that don't have medical backgrounds tend to be alittle more alarmist when we know just enough to be scared by new terms.

I must say, it sure is good to finally hear a medical official (doctor) in Indonesia talking about h2h and looking at possible mammalian reservoirs. Maybe there is hope.
 
Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Re: Expanding Bandung Cluster

Daisy said:
Thanks Dr. Niman. I come from a environmental policy/legislative background not medical. I think that some of us on this site (ok, at least me) that don't have medical backgrounds tend to be alittle more alarmist when we know just enough to be scared by new terms.

I must say, it sure is good to finally hear a medical official (doctor) in Indonesia talking about h2h and looking at possible mammalian reservoirs. Maybe there is hope.
'Antarmanusia' is actually an Indonesian (medical?) term for H2H -- most (probably all) of us here had to learn it at some point. :)
 
Back
Top Bottom