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CDC Urges Caution on Estimates of Swine Flu

Shiloh

Editor, Senior Moderator
Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/26/health/26flu.html?_r=2

Agency Urges Caution on Estimates of Swine Flu

By DONALD G. McNEIL Jr.
Published: August 25, 2009

ATLANTA ? Up to 90,000 deaths from swine flu flu in the United States, mostly among children and young people?

Up to 1.8 million people hospitalized, with 50 percent to 100 percent of the intensive-care beds in some cities filled with swine flu patients?

Up to half the population infected by this winter?

On Monday, a White House advisory panel issued a report with these estimates, calling them ?a plausible scenario? for a second wave of infections by the new H1N1 flu. The grim numbers by the panel, the President?s Council of Advisers on Science and Technology, got considerable play in the news media.

On Tuesday, however, officials at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the agency with the most expertise on influenza pandemics, suggested that the projections should be regarded with caution.

?We don?t necessarily see this as a likely scenario,? said Dr. Anne Schuchat, director of the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases.

A press officer for the disease centers, speaking carefully to avoid a feud with the White House press office, said, ?Look, if the virus keeps behaving the way it is now, I don?t think anyone here expects anything like 90,000 deaths.?

Even one of the experts who helped prepare the report said Tuesday that the numbers were probably on the high side, given that some weeks had passed since the calculations were finished in early August.

?As more data has come out of the Southern Hemisphere, where it seems to be fading, it looks as if it?s going to be somewhat milder,? said the expert, Marc Lipsitch, an epidemiologist at the Harvard School of Public Health. ?If we were betting on the most likely number, I?d say it?s not 90,000 deaths; it?s lower.?

Dr. Harold Varmus, president of the Memorial Sloan-Kettering Cancer Center and one of the panel?s chairmen, defended the report.

?A lot of people think the flu is over,? Dr. Varmus said. ?We think it?s important that there be a dose of reality. It?s certainly not an outlandish proposal. A lot of people are going to be infected.?

For a report with such striking figures, it was released with little fanfare and less coordination than might have been expected among public health officials.

The report was posted on the White House Web site on Monday, two weeks late, since it was dated Aug. 7. With President Obama on vacation in Martha?s Vineyard, no news conference with the White House or with the report?s authors was scheduled.

Kathleen Sebelius, secretary of health and human services, was at the disease centers? headquarters in Atlanta, addressing a special symposium on swine flu.

A summary of the report was handed out by the centers? press staff to medical reporters as she spoke, but Ms. Sebelius did not dwell on it or mention its forecast of 30,000 to 90,000 deaths, more than twice the 36,000 deaths usually caused by seasonal flu.

With the centers? director, Dr. Thomas Frieden, by her side, she said fall would be a challenge when flu returned, and acknowledged a recent Washington Post poll showing that few Americans were worried. She even joked that it might bring handkerchiefs back into fashion.

Both she and Dr. Frieden acknowledged that ?some people? would die, but neither gave an estimate.

Dr. Varmus said he was not happy with the way the report had been released ?but that?s above my pay grade.?

A debate over alarming predictions for flu would recall September 2005, when Dr. David Nabarro, then in charge of the United Nations response to H5N1 avian flu, estimated that a human outbreak could kill 5 million to 150 million people.

Headlines focused on the larger number, and arguments over the wisdom of such estimates went on for months. But the flu never mutated to transmit easily between people and thus far only 262 deaths have been attributed to it by the World Health Organization.

Since the epidemic began, the centers have been reluctant to issue projections about probable swine flu cases, and the agency has even stopped estimating how many Americans have already had the flu. The official estimate has been stuck at ?more than one million? for months.

At the Atlanta symposium, Lyn Finelli, head of surveillance for the influenza division, was asked when that would be updated. ?Sometime in the next few weeks,? Dr. Finelli said. ?We?re working on the model.?

Officials at the centers said they had known that the panel?s report was in the works, but had focused on the recommendations it would make.

They included these:

?Releasing some vaccine for high-risk people in September, even before clinical trials are finished.

?Speeding plans for intravenous flu drugs and clarifying guidelines for using drugs like Tamiflu.

?Using social media that appeal to youth to urge them to get shots.

?Changing federal rules and programs that discourage school closings.

Agency officials said they had already adopted some measures. For example, vaccine makers have been asked to prepare early batches of vaccine, and the disease control centers are already on Facebook and Twitter.

Even while distancing themselves from the grim forecasts presented in the White House advisers? report, officials at the centers saw a possible benefit.

?Anything that breaks the complacency is a useful tool,? said Glen Nowak, the director of media relations at the centers.
 
Re: CDC Urges Caution on Estimates of Swine Flu

"they included these:

?Releasing some vaccine for high-risk people in September, even before clinical trials are finished."


What is the likelyhood? I hope so...
 
Re: CDC Urges Caution on Estimates of Swine Flu

This is an excellent report.

Even just the first few pages are well worth the read.

Note the possibilities for numbers, from page 16, box 3A:

"Following a relatively steady or declining burden of cases in August, the number of new cases will begin to rise exponentially in the first week of September, growing 10-fold about every 10 to12 days. Hypothetically, the peak incidence of infection nationally will occur around October 15, with minor variations across the country such that peak incidence almost everywhere will occur during the month of October. At this peak, perhaps 1 to 2 percent of the population will become infected each day."

I wonder if we're going to be able to "see" this happening, from south to north, in the stats.

J.
 
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Re: CDC Urges Caution on Estimates of Swine Flu

This is an excellent report.
I wonder if we're going to be able to "see" this happening, from south to north, in the stats.

J.

What stats? Do you think we'll see an improved reporting?
 
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#3: ""At this peak, perhaps 1 to 2 percent of the population will become infected each day.""


40 percent of population illnessed during 20 to 40 days.

By taking the lower supposition, a third of the population during one month.

Is it easier to make closures, and cancel gatherings, or have a third of the population illnessed during the same one month period ?

The answer seems obvious if the goal is not social and economic disruption ...
 
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What is the link to the report?

This is an excellent report.

Even just the first few pages are well worth the read.

Note the possibilities for numbers, from page 16, box 3A:

"Following a relatively steady or declining burden of cases in August, the number of new cases will begin to rise exponentially in the first week of September,[/B] growing 10-fold about every 10 to12 days. Hypothetically, the peak incidence of infection nationally will occur around October 15, with minor variations across the country such that peak incidence almost everywhere will occur during the month of October. At this peak, perhaps 1 to 2 percent of the population will become infected each day."

I wonder if we're going to be able to "see" this happening, from south to north, in the stats.

J.
 
Re: CDC Urges Caution on Estimates of Swine Flu

This 86 report provides the single best resource for pandemic discussion.
Note that it was written August 7 and released on Aug 24. It has forced the HHS to admit that the vaccine may not arrive in time for the peak of wave 2.
The report is excellent in its explanations and data presentations. The authors clearly state why planning and action must be made towards a specific scenario. Embedded in the report is the strong recommendation for enhancing the quality of data and to build the resilience of communities.

The scenario chosen for planning is described in narrative on page 16 and tabular form on page 17.
In this model scenario, around October 15, as the epidemic peaks, a major supply of 2009-H1N1 influenza vaccine becomes available. Immunization starts within days, with considerable geographical variation in the rate at which administration occurs. Immunization of priority groups is completed by early or mid-November, resulting in immunity in vaccinated adults by mid-late November, as the epidemic wanes in most populations. Children require two doses and do not acquire immunity until December, when new infections will have become rare. By the end of 2009, 60 to 120 million Americans would have experienced symptomatic infection with 2009-H1N1; nearly 1 to 2 million would have been hospitalized, with about 150,000-300,000 cared for in ICUs; and somewhere between 30,000 and 90,000 people would have died, the majority of them under 50 years of age.
It is very unfortunate that the CDC official as a member of the adminstration has chosen to dispute the premise of the recommendations from the Presidential panel of scientists from outside the administration. The issue is not who can guess the future, but what is the most prudent plan to protect the public and to manage scarce medical resources.
 
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What stats? Do you think we'll see an improved reporting?

The stats I'm looking for are: 1) hospital ICUs filled and need to redirect patients, 2) families reporting their deceased relatives died due to lack of resources (like vents).

.
 
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#9:
"It is very unfortunate that the CDC official as a member of the adminstration has chosen to dispute the premise of the recommendations from the Presidential panel of scientists from outside the administration. The issue is not who can guess the future, but what is the most prudent plan to protect the public and to manage scarce medical resources."



The estabs vertics obviously have the power to choose the more prudent panel advisory instead of the CDC suggested, if they want.
 
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"Following a relatively steady or declining burden of cases in August, the number of new cases will begin to rise exponentially in the first week of September, growing 10-fold about every 10 to 12 days. Hypothetically, the peak incidence of infection nationally will occur around October 15, with minor variations across the country such that peak incidence almost everywhere will occur during the month of October."

Interesting...the peak of the wave arrives simultaneously as the first H1N1 vax, thus, the subsequest decline in new cases gets to be attributed to the miraculous efficacy of the vax, while really, it's the natural "W" wave pattern of influenza infection that is responsible for the decrease in cases.

How fortuitous for TPTB. Looks good on paper, in headlines...

Can't get any better spin than that.
 
Re: CDC Urges Caution on Estimates of Swine Flu

ahh, Thornton, so they should deliberately give wrong estimates
in order to achieve better preparation ?

They would lose in credibility. What is more important ?
 
Re: CDC Urges Caution on Estimates of Swine Flu

In regards to the possible 90,000 deaths, is that calculation based on 12 months. Or is it spanning only 6-8 weeks.
 
Re: CDC Urges Caution on Estimates of Swine Flu

In regards to the possible 90,000 deaths, is that calculation based on 12 months. Or is it spanning only 6-8 weeks.

I think that we can read that as deaths in the 2009/2010 flu season since they compare their scenario to the 30,000 to 40,000 deaths that occurr each year on average. So, deaths in March, 2010 should go toward fulfilling that prophecy.
 
Re: CDC Urges Caution on Estimates of Swine Flu

so, it's just excess seasonal deaths.
(as the 36000)
 
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