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As monkeypox threat grows, scientists debate best vaccine strategy

Mary Wilson

Well-known member
Favored shot is a seemingly safer smallpox vaccine, but efficacy remains unclear

7 JUN 2022 6:05 PM

BY KAI KUPFERSCHMIDT

... Now, this virus, further weakened and brought to the market by the Danish pharma company Bavarian Nordic, may become key to arresting the largest outbreak of monkeypox ever seen outside Africa, which has already sickened more than 1000 people. It is the only vaccine licensed anywhere for use against monkeypox, although other, riskier smallpox vaccines also appear to offer some protection. The United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, and several other countries have already started to “ring” vaccinate, offering it to contacts of identified monkeypox cases, including health care workers and sexual partners. “MVA will be very important in this outbreak because it is a nonreplicating vaccine, which means it doesn’t have the same side effect profile as some of the other live [virus] vaccines” being considered, says Rosamund Lewis, technical lead on monkeypox at the World Health Organization (WHO).

But what role the vaccine will ultimately play depends on a host of factors: whether those most at risk from infection can be identified and vaccinated, whether the vaccine is as effective as hoped, and whether enough is available to stop the burgeoning outbreak. WHO has so far only backed ring vaccination—MVA is ideally given within 4 days of an exposure but recommended for up to 14 days—but some scientists say it’s too difficult to reach the specific contacts people had. They advocate broader vaccination campaigns in the population most affected so far: men who have sex with men (MSM).

... Bavarian Nordic’s nonreplicating vaccine, marketed as Jynneos in the United States and as Imvanex in Europe, sidesteps some of the risk. So does a vaccinia-based vaccine named LC16m8, licensed for smallpox only in Japan, which also appears to cause fewer side effects. “I believe these are the ones that are going to be used [in the new outbreak] because they have a much-enhanced safety profile,” says Marion Gruber, who headed the U.S. Food and Drug Administration’s vaccine office until October 2021.

Canada and the United States have already licensed MVA for use against monkeypox and Bavarian Nordic is in talks with the European Medicines Agency (EMA). “I really hope that in a matter of 1 or 2 months from now, this can be approved” in Europe, says EMA’s Marco Cavaleri.

The United Kingdom has been using MVA “off-label” for a few years to vaccinate contacts of imported monkeypox cases. WHO’s Strategic Advisory Group of Experts on Immunization is set to release guidance in the next days that will back MVA, but it will also recommend using earlier vaccines in certain scenarios. Still, Cavaleri says, “If [MVA] is available, clearly that will be the vaccine to start.”

... How well MVA really protects humans from monkeypox is uncertain. The license for MVA in Canada and the United States is based on animal studies, where it was shown to protect macaques and prairie dogs, plus data in humans showing a strong antibody response. A pair of DRC studies vaccinated 1600 health care workers with one of two MVA formulations and found no monkeypox cases in each 2-year study period. But there were no control groups, and one vaccinated health care worker did get monkeypox half a year later. “The truth is, we don’t know the efficacy of any of these monkeypox vaccines,” says Ira Longini, a biostatistician at the University of Florida who is advising WHO.

https://www.science.org/content/art...grows-scientists-debate-best-vaccine-strategy
 
Dr. Mark Buller, was the US's leading Orthopox Virus researcher.
Buller Says Vaccine for Monkeypox (using smallpox vax) NOT recommended:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17661673

What's the alternative now? A massive antiviral blanket like was used with Tamiflu to stamp out H5N1 outbreaks? 2-3 more years of quarantines and lockdowns until you can make a better vaccine? Or doing nothing at all and accepting a couple billion cases of this over the next year?
 
Dr. Mark Buller, was the US's leading Orthopox Virus researcher.
Buller Says Vaccine for Monkeypox (using smallpox vax) NOT recommended:
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17661673

It seems he is referencing immunocompromised people only:

"Moreover, human vaccination is becoming a less viable option to control poxvirus infections in today's increasingly immunocompromised population, particularly with the emergence of HIV in Sub-Saharan Africa."

I had the smallpox vaccination as a child and I am still alive and have lived a full life for many decades. Except for a mark on my upper arm skin at the inoculation site, I am not aware of any side effects, short term, medium term, or extremely long term. Same for my siblings who got the vaccine.


Vaccines are medicine. There is always a risk in any medicine.

If you have any questions about vaccines and/or any medicine, please contact your medical practitioner.
 
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@Sharon "I had the smallpox vaccination as a child and I am still alive and have lived a full life for many decades. Except for a mark on my upper arm skin at the inoculation site, I am not aware of any side effects, short term, medium term, or extremely long term. Same for my siblings who got the vaccine."
I and my siblings, too, had no side effects. I remember the county's health department nurse coming to our school and vaccinating all the students in our school.
 
alert Excellent question. Since monkeypox appears to have been used in gain of function research at the Wuhan lab, the world could be in for another big surprise. We'll all know soon enough... some weeks after Pride.
 
sharon sanders There are legions of immunocompromised in the US too. And there is also a concern that the CoVid-19 vaccines have damaged people's immune systems, potentially placing them in that category as well.

As to the small pox vaccine itself, I have read recently that it had a terrible safety record, (myocarditis), which surprised me. Like you, I wasn't aware of anyone who was harmed by the vaccine, but then again, we didn't have access to information at the same speed as we do today. It's always important to remember that personal observations are not equivalent to empirical data.
 
The safety record of the old smallpox vaccine mainly concerns side effects from infection with live vaccinia virus. The people who had adverse outcomes after vaccination typically had them because the vaccinia virus ended up spreading beyond the injection site, causing things like infection in various parts of the body. Of course, when smallpox was widespread, the small risk of those things was negligible compared to the risk of death from smallpox.
 
No one is accusing anyone of an INTENTIONAL release of COVID-19. If it came from the WIV, it's an accidental release. That's why the COVID outbreak started in Wuhan. This outbreak did not start in Wuhan, So your suggestion is that this is an intentional release? For what purpose? The intentional release of a pandemic virus would be an act of war.
 
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