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  • _|North KOREA: UNDIAGNOSED CHILDREN DEATHS|_

    Epidemic spreads in N.K. border towns: aid group

    SEOUL, June 3 (Yonhap) --

    An unidentified epidemic is spreading along some North Korean towns bordering China, placing North Korean health authorities on high alert, a local aid group said Tuesday.

    The disease, suspected to be avian influenza by some North Korean doctors or hand-foot-mouth disease (HFMD) by some others, has already taken the lives of many North Korean children under seven years old, the Buddhist group Good Friends said in its newsletter.

    Every day since April 27, five to six children have died of the unidentified epidemic in Hoeryong, North Hamgyong Province, the group said, quoting a doctor of a hospital in the city.

    The disease is already common among young children in the neighboring city of Musan, according to the group.

    North Korean health authorities, however, are poorly handling the spread of the epidemic, without even giving an exact diagnosis or cure, the group said.

    "We diagnose the disease as avian influenza," it quoted a North Korean doctor in Hoeryong as saying. Patients show flu-like symptoms such as fever, cough, sore throat and no appetite, the doctor added.

    "Yes, right. Bird flu is spreading," another doctor in Musan was quoted as saying. The disease is spreading mainly among state-run daycare centers and kindergartens, although no cases of adult infections have been reported, he added.

    "I understand the authorities are trying to trace the root of the disease," he said.

    But a third North Korean doctor was quoted as saying that HFMD from China may be spreading to North Korea's border areas, the aid group said.

    HFMD has struck over 10,000 people resulting in 26 fatalities, all of them children, in recent months, according to China's official Xinhua News Agency.
    sshim@yna.co.kr
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  • #2
    Re: _|N. KOREA: UNDIAGNOSED CHILDREN DEATHS|_

    Hand Foot Mouth Disease seems to be more likely than bird flu.

    June 3, 2008

    Mystery epidemic hits N. Korea: aid group

    SEOUL - A MYSTERY epidemic spreading along some North Korean border towns with China has claimed the lives of dozens of children, a Seoul-based humanitarian group said on Tuesday.

    The highly contagious disease has sparked a health alert with an estimated five or six children dying every day since April 27 in the northeast city of Hoeryong, the Good Friends group said.

    North Korean health authorities have been unable to stop the spread of the epidemic or to come up with an exact diagnosis or cure, it added.

    Doctors in the North suspect it may have been caused by avian influenza or hand-foot-mouth disease. 'Bird flu is spreading,' the group quoted one doctor as saying.

    Good Friends, which operates in the communist North, quoted another doctor as saying hand-foot-mouth disease could be spreading from China, where it has killed several dozen children.

    The outbreak is spreading mainly among state-run child daycare centers and kindergartens and no cases of adult infections have been reported, the doctor said.

    Good Friends said the epidemic had spread to other towns along the border, with patients showing flu-like symptoms such as fever, cough, sore throat and loss of appetite.

    Impoverished North Korea launched an all-out campaign to prevent bird flu after avian influenza spread widely in South Korea this year.

    The North has reported no new case since it destroyed 210,000 birds during an outbreak in 2005 and actively taken part in programmes offered by the World Health Organisation.

    The South is still struggling to contain the spread of bird flu since the latest outbreak began on April 1. -- AFP

    http://www.straitstimes.com/Latest+N...ry_244003.html
    ?Addressing chronic disease is an issue of human rights ? that must be our call to arms"
    Richard Horton, Editor-in-Chief The Lancet

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    • #3
      Re: _|N. KOREA: UNDIAGNOSED CHILDREN DEATHS|_

      Bird Flu Prevention Started In Each Region
      The Health and Epidemic Prevention Stations(위생방역소) in each county began to make rounds of villages by disinfecting and vaccinating chickens and geese for the prevention of the bird flu virus. They requested that individual farmers who raise poultry to ?report in a timely manner when they observe their livestock refusing to eat, suffering from diarrhea, leading to a large number of deaths.?

      Meanwhile, the sale of live poultry has been prohibited in the markets. In addition, the party has recalled all live poultry sales and given fines of 1000won per head, as infections of the virus has been widely reported. http://goodfriendsusa.blogspot.com/2...ay-no-133.html
      CSI:WORLD http://swineflumagazine.blogspot.com/

      treyfish2004@yahoo.com

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      • #4
        Re: _|N. KOREA: UNDIAGNOSED CHILDREN DEATHS|_

        This sounds just like hand foot and mouth disease because there have been no adult cases and there is adults around the kids in the daycares, so if it was avian influenza they would have caught it.

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          Re: _|N. KOREA: UNDIAGNOSED CHILDREN DEATHS|_

          Mystery epidemic hits NKorea: aid group
          SEOUL (AFP) ?

          A mystery epidemic spreading along some North Korean border towns with China has claimed the lives of dozens of children, a Seoul-based humanitarian group said Tuesday.

          The highly contagious disease has sparked a health alert with an estimated five or six children dying every day since April 27 in the northeast city of Hoeryong, the Good Friends group said.

          North Korean health authorities have been unable to stop the spread of the epidemic or to come up with an exact diagnosis or cure, it added.

          Doctors in the North suspect it may have been caused by avian influenza or hand-foot-mouth disease. "Bird flu is spreading," the group quoted one doctor as saying.

          Good Friends, which operates in the communist North, quoted another doctor as saying hand-foot-mouth disease could be spreading from China, where it has killed several dozen children.

          The outbreak is spreading mainly among state-run child daycare centers and kindergartens and no cases of adult infections have been reported, the doctor said.

          Good Friends said the epidemic had spread to other towns along the border, with patients showing flu-like symptoms such as fever, cough, sore throat and loss of appetite.

          Impoverished North Korea launched an all-out campaign to prevent bird flu after avian influenza spread widely in South Korea this year.

          The North has reported no new case since it destroyed 210,000 birds during an outbreak in 2005 and actively taken part in programmes offered by the World Health Organisation.

          The South is still struggling to contain the spread of bird flu since the
          latest outbreak began on April 1.
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          http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5...R0160M2zJfuS2w
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          • #6
            Re: _|N. KOREA: UNDIAGNOSED CHILDREN DEATHS|_

            Wednesday, June 4, 2008

            Mysterious epidemic hits North Korea

            AFP
            SEOUL -- A mystery epidemic spreading along some North Korean border towns with China has claimed the lives of dozens of children, a Seoul-based humanitarian group said Tuesday.

            The highly contagious disease has sparked a health alert with an estimated five or six children dying every day since April 27 in the northeast city of Hoeryong, the Good Friends group said.

            North Korean health authorities have been unable to stop the spread of the epidemic or to come up with an exact diagnosis or cure, it added.

            Doctors in the North suspect it may have been caused by avian influenza or hand-foot-mouth disease. "Bird flu is spreading," the group quoted one doctor as saying.

            Good Friends, which operates in the communist North, quoted another doctor as saying hand-foot-mouth disease could be spreading from China, where it has killed several dozen children.

            The outbreak is spreading mainly among state-run child daycare centers and kindergartens and no cases of adult infections have been reported, the doctor said.

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            http://www.chinapost.com.tw/asia/kor...s-epidemic.htm
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              Re: _|North KOREA: UNDIAGNOSED CHILDREN DEATHS|_

              UNDIAGNOSED FATAL DISEASE - NORTH KOREA
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              A ProMED-mail post
              (...)
              Date: Tue 3 Jun 2008
              Source: Yonhap News Agency [edited]
              http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news...08500315F.HTML

              An unidentified epidemic is spreading among some North Korean towns bordering China, placing North Korean health authorities on high alert, a local aid group said on Tue 2 Jun 2008.

              The disease, suspected to be avian influenza by some North Korean doctors or hand, foot and mouth disease (HFMD) by others, has already taken the lives of many North Korean children under 7 years of age, the Buddhist group Good Friends said in its newsletter. Each day since 27 Apr 2008, 5 to 6 children have died of the unidentified epidemic in Hoeryong, North Hamgyong Province, the group said, quoting a doctor of a hospital in the city. The disease is already common among young children in the neighboring city of Musan, according to the group.

              "We diagnose the disease as avian influenza," the group quoted a North Korean doctor in Hoeryong as saying. Patients show flu-like symptoms such as fever, cough, sore throat and no appetite, the doctor added. "Yes, right. Bird flu is spreading," another doctor in Musan was quoted as saying. The disease is spreading mainly among state-run daycare centers and kindergartens, although no cases of adult infections have been reported, he added. "I understand the authorities are trying to trace the root of the disease," he said.

              But a 3rd North Korean doctor was quoted as saying that HFMD from China may be spreading to North Korea's border areas, the aid group said.

              HFMD has struck over 10 000 people resulting in 26 fatalities, all of them children, in recent months, according to China's official Xinhua News Agency.
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              Communicated by:
              ProMED-mail Rapporteur Mary Marshall
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              [3] North Korea, suspected
              Date: Wed 4 Jun 2008
              Source: Australian Broadcasting Corporation online [edited]
              http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/new...htm?tab=latest

              A South Korean humanitarian agency says a mysterious epidemic has been spreading along North Korean towns along the border with China, killing dozens of children. The Seoul-based Good Friends agency says 5 or 6 children have died every day since the highly infectious disease emerged on 27 Apr 2008.

              The group says North Korean doctors have been unable to diagnose or cure the disease and have said it could be avian flu or hand, foot and mouth disease, which has killed dozens of children in China in recent weeks.

              Good Friends reports the outbreak has mainly affected state-run daycare centres and kindergartens, with patients showing flu-like symptoms before succumbing.
              --
              Communicated by:
              ProMED-mail Rapporteur Mary Marshall & Ryan Evans

              [The location of the North Korean outbreak, along the border with China, and the age group of the patients are more consistent with a diagnosis of HFMD rather than avian influenza, although the high death toll is unexpected. Further information and clarification are awaited.

              The HealthMap/ProMED-mail interactive map of North Korea, showing the border region with China, is available at
              http://healthmap.org/promed?v=40,127,5. - Mod.CP]

              [I would go further and say that if no adults are infected, and it is affecting mainly state-run daycare centres and kindergartens, it can't be either avian or human flu. - Mod.JW]
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              • #8
                UNKNOWN, OR FALSE?: "N.K., Bird flu is "?spreading", quoted doctor in Musan"

                http://www.promedmail.org/pls/otn/f?..._ID:1000,72727

                <TABLE class=formlayout id=apex_layout_271110100662109808 summary=""><TBODY><TR><TD noWrap align=right>Archive Number</TD><TD noWrap align=left>20080604.1791</TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=right>Published Date</TD><TD noWrap align=left>04-JUN-2008</TD></TR><TR><TD noWrap align=right>Subject</TD><TD noWrap align=left>PRO/EDR> Undiagnosed fatal disease: North Korea</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

                UNDIAGNOSED FATAL DISEASE - NORTH KOREA***************************************A ProMED-mail post<http://www.promedmail.org>ProMED-mail is a program of theInternational Society for Infectious Diseases<http://www.isid.org>Date: Tue 3 Jun 2008Source: Yonhap News Agency [edited]<http://english.yonhapnews.co.kr/news/2008/06/03/5/0200000000AEN20080603008500315F.HTML>An unidentified epidemic is spreading among some North Korean townsbordering China, placing North Korean health authorities on highalert, a local aid group said on Tue 2 Jun 2008.The disease, suspected to be avian influenza by some North Koreandoctors or hand, foot and mouth disease (HFMD) by others, hasalready taken the lives of many North Korean children under 7 yearsof age, the Buddhist group Good Friends said in its newsletter. Eachday since 27 Apr 2008, 5 to 6 children have died of the unidentifiedepidemic in Hoeryong, North Hamgyong Province, the group said,quoting a doctor of a hospital in the city. The disease is alreadycommon among young children in the neighboring city of Musan,according to the group."We diagnose the disease as avian influenza," the group quoted aNorth Korean doctor in Hoeryong as saying. Patients show flu-likesymptoms such as fever, cough, sore throat and no appetite, thedoctor added. "Yes, right. Bird flu is spreading," another doctor inMusan was quoted as saying. The disease is spreading mainly amongstate-run daycare centers and kindergartens, although no cases ofadult infections have been reported, he added. "I understand theauthorities are trying to trace the root of the disease," he said.But a 3rd North Korean doctor was quoted as saying that HFMD fromChina may be spreading to North Korea's border areas, the aid groupsaid. HFMD has struck over 10 000 people resulting in 26 fatalities,all of them children, in recent months, according to China's officialXinhua News Agency.--Communicated by:ProMED-mail Rapporteur Mary Marshall******[3] North Korea, suspectedDate: Wed 4 Jun 2008Source: Australian Broadcasting Corporation online [edited]<http://www.radioaustralia.net.au/news/stories/200806/s2264227.htm?tab=latest>A South Korean humanitarian agency says a mysterious epidemic hasbeen spreading along North Korean towns along the border with China,killing dozens of children. The Seoul-based Good Friends agency says5 or 6 children have died every day since the highly infectiousdisease emerged on 27 Apr 2008.The group says North Korean doctors have been unable to diagnose orcure the disease and have said it could be avian flu or hand, footand mouth disease, which has killed dozens of children in China inrecent weeks.Good Friends reports the outbreak has mainly affected state-rundaycare centres and kindergartens, with patients showing flu-likesymptoms before succumbing.--Communicated by:ProMED-mail Rapporteur Mary Marshall& Ryan Evans[The location of the North Korean outbreak, along the border withChina, and the age group of the patients are more consistent with adiagnosis of HFMD rather than avian influenza, although the highdeath toll is unexpected. Further information and clarification areawaited.The HealthMap/ProMED-mail interactive map of North Korea, showing theborder region with China, is available at<http://healthmap.org/promed?v=40,127,5>. - Mod.CP][I would go further and say that if no adults are infected, and it is affecting mainly state-run daycare centres and kindergartens, it can't be either avian or human flu. - Mod.JW][see also:Hand, foot & mouth disease - Asia (15): China (Anhui, Macao) 20080530.1748Hand, foot & mouth disease - Asia (14): Mongolia 20080523.1700Hand, foot & mouth disease - Asia (13): China, WHO 20080521.1682Hand, foot & mouth disease - Asia (12): Mongolia 20080517.1655Hand, foot & mouth disease - Asia (11) 20080517.1644Hand, foot & mouth disease - Asia (10): China (Beijing) 20080514.1622Hand, foot & mouth disease - Asia (09): Mongolia 20080513.1618Hand, foot & mouth disease - Asia (08): Mongolia 20080512.1615Hand, foot & mouth disease - Asia (07): China 20080510.1597Hand, foot & mouth disease - Asia (06): China 20080509.1583Hand, foot & mouth disease - Asia (05): China 20080508.1577Hand, foot & mouth disease - Asia (04): China, Macao S.A.R. 20080507.1561Hand, foot & mouth disease - Asia (03): China, Taiwan 20080506.1553Hand, foot & mouth disease - China (05): Beijing, provinces 20080505.1537Hand, foot & mouth disease - Asia (02): China, Singapore, Viet Nam20080504.1528Hand, foot & mouth disease - China (04): eastern & HK 20080503.1521Hand, foot & mouth disease - Asia: China (Hubei), Malaysia (Sarawak)20080502.1511Hand, foot & mouth disease - China (03): (Anhui), WHO 20080501.1504Hand, foot & mouth disease - China (02): (Anhui) 20080429.1481Hand, foot & mouth disease - China (Anhui), Singapore 20080429.1472Hand, foot & mouth disease - Singapore, Brunei 20080427.1456].................................................. ..cp/msp/jw*############################################### ###########*************************************** **********************ProMED-mail makes every effort to verify the reports thatare posted, but the accuracy and completeness of theinformation, and of any statements or opinions basedthereon, are not guaranteed. 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                • #9
                  Re: UNKNOWN, OR FALSE?: &quot;N.K., Bird flu is &quot;?spreading&quot;, quoted doctor in Musan&quot;

                  Looking at the location (bordering China) and looking at the age of the victims (young children, no adults) it is more likely to be hand-foot-mouth disease (HFMD).

                  HFMD outbreak in China seems to cross the border here.

                  No indication at all pointing to bird flu.

                  Moderator from ProMED says so too.
                  ?Addressing chronic disease is an issue of human rights ? that must be our call to arms"
                  Richard Horton, Editor-in-Chief The Lancet

                  ~~~~ Twitter:@GertvanderHoek ~~~ GertvanderHoek@gmail.com ~~~

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                  • #10
                    Re: UNKNOWN, OR FALSE?: &quot;N.K., Bird flu is &quot;?spreading&quot;, quoted doctor in Musan&quot;

                    There is another thread on this argument. If someone want, may merge into one. http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=70095

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                    • #11
                      Re: _|North KOREA: UNDIAGNOSED CHILDREN DEATHS|_

                      Merged on request.
                      ?Addressing chronic disease is an issue of human rights ? that must be our call to arms"
                      Richard Horton, Editor-in-Chief The Lancet

                      ~~~~ Twitter:@GertvanderHoek ~~~ GertvanderHoek@gmail.com ~~~

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                      • #12
                        Re: _|North KOREA: UNDIAGNOSED CHILDREN DEATHS|_

                        Originally posted by Dutchy View Post
                        Merged on request.
                        Great, Dutchy

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                        • #13
                          Re: _|North KOREA: UNDIAGNOSED CHILDREN DEATHS|_

                          Each day since 27 Apr 2008, 5 to 6 children have died of the unidentified epidemic in Hoeryong, North Hamgyong Province.
                          If this is correct, and not hyperbole, that would place the current death toll of children from this province alone at over 200.
                          http://novel-infectious-diseases.blogspot.com/

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                          • #14
                            Re: _|North KOREA: UNDIAGNOSED CHILDREN DEATHS|_

                            Hi!
                            UNIDENTIFIED, UNDIAGNOSED ... since 27 april!

                            I just think "hand, foot, and mouth disease" is "easy" to diagnose!
                            What is hand, foot, and mouth disease?
                            Hand, foot, and mouth disease (HFMD) is a common illness of infants and children. It is characterized by fever, sores in the mouth, and a rash with blisters. HFMD begins with a mild fever, poor appetite, malaise ("feeling sick"), and frequently a sore throat. One or 2 days after the fever begins, painful sores develop in the mouth. They begin as small red spots that blister and then often become ulcers. They are usually located on the tongue, gums, and inside of the cheeks. The skin rash develops over 1 to 2 days with flat or raised red spots, some with blisters. The rash does not itch, and it is usually located on the palms of the hands and soles of the feet. It may also appear on the buttocks. A person with HFMD may have only the rash or the mouth ulcers. "

                            http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/dvrd/revb/...virus/hfhf.htm

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                            • #15
                              Re: _|North KOREA: UNDIAGNOSED CHILDREN DEATHS|_

                              Thank AA for posting what has been bothering me about this particular news story... I also did the math!

                              I remember reading back to the China threads about detecting EV71 was pretty easy too. Could it be what's making it hard to dx is the false negatives we hear about so often with H5N1?

                              If China had some 64000 cases and only what, 40 something deaths... how many cases are we talking about in N Korea? Did HFMD just up it's CFR or something? Something's not right.

                              And you've got a doc coming right out and saying it...

                              IMHO, I think we need to be as nervous about N Korea holding back info as China and Indo - similar MOs And no one wants to be the country that the pandemic broke out in.

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