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  • #31
    Re: More ferrets with H1N1 caught from owners in Oregon

    Comment: Not sure where to put this story, but since it's about PET Birds, and they've been dropping dead at a show with lung problems, it sure sounds like H1N1 or some other bird flu.

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    Bird lovers and exhibitors watched in horror as 38 prize budgies keeled over and died during a show.

    Owners and organisers rushed about getting their cages outside into the fresh air as the budgerigars began plummeting from their perches.

    Fanciers feared a gas leak caused the tragedy.

    But after investigations by plumbers, gas workers, fire authorities and environmental health officers, there was no explanation for what happened at the village hall event in Gwynedd, North Wales.

    Retired pet shop owner Dave Cottrell, 55, who lost 10 birds at the show, said: 'I was preparing the certificates as the birds were being put in order when a steward came over and said he had a dead one.

    'Then another steward came over said he had two or three dead.

    'And within seconds a third steward said he had more dead.'

    Mr Cottrell, who has 200 birds and been a fancier for 35 years, thinks a boiler or oven flue could have been temporarily blocked, forcing out fumes.

    Robert Hughes, 34, - who organised the annual Gwynedd Budgerigar Society Open Show - said: 'The birds were spread across the hall.

    'Five minutes after the first one died eleven more had gone, one was mine.

    'We made the decision to get everything out of the hall because we had 350 cages so we saved a lot of birds.'

    Small birds are especially vulnerable because of their tiny, sensitive respiratory systems.

    Canaries were traditionally used by miners to test whether there were dangerous levels of carbon monoxide below ground.

    Mr Hughes said: 'Nobody in the community has seen nor heard anything like this before. The hall has been given the all clear.

    'It's bizarre. It has been really difficult to get over it.

    'It takes a year to organise the show and it's a lot of work - but that's nothing compared to how you feel for some of the people who lost birds.'

    A vet carried out checks on two casualties revealing they died from congestion and haemorrhaging of the lungs


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    • #32
      Re: More ferrets with H1N1 caught from owners in Oregon

      Thank you Roehl_JC for that strange news.

      #31:
      "'We made the decision to get everything out of the hall because we had 350 cages so we saved a lot of birds.'

      Small birds are especially vulnerable because of their tiny, sensitive respiratory systems.

      Canaries were traditionally used by miners to test whether there were dangerous levels of carbon monoxide below ground.

      ...
      A vet carried out checks on two casualties revealing they died from congestion and haemorrhaging of the lungs"

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      Worying indeed.


      If we try to connect their tiny sensitive respiratory systems,
      the whatsoever gas presence possibility later dismissed,
      the fact 350 cages of birds were saved because transported out to fresh air,
      and the objective veterinary pat. result of "congestion and haemorrhaging of the lungs"

      it stil seems that the main death vector was present in the closed hall,
      because when the birds were transported out, seems implicite from this text that the deaths ceased.

      If the deaths ceased at open air, that means few possibilities:

      1 - the agent was chem., and remains in the hall

      2a - the agent, was biological, ceased to tresspass from bird to bird at open
      2b - corrolary of 2a - all the remaining birds at open have NOT in their body this lethal haemorhagic biological agent, because otherwise they will died at open air also.

      2c - if it was biological, and ceased at open as wroted in 2b, than:

      2c1 - all by this agent infected birds were infected naturaly by new flu/ards, but the only deceased birds were the ones already deceased in the closed hall
      or
      2c2- in the hall full of birds was released a biological agent which starts to kill them in short time, but it did not have a time to reach all the birds, because they were transported to open air in a hurry.


      Option 2c1 could be possible, but the probability that all the naturaly infected birds are the same number of the ones deceased in the short time prior their transportation to open air, is low, if they were from diferent owners and provenience.

      Option 2c2, if that was an biological (not chem.) agent, seems more logicaly probable than option 2c1, if not tainted food linked.

      Option 1, it seems the more probable, but such chem. must induce fast haemorrhaging of the lungs.
      In that case, such agent detection will be possible in the closed hall air,
      or in the bird food - but the respiratory organs were attacked, so it must be an respiratory harming agent there.

      But in the air there were no chem. agents founded:
      "But after investigations by plumbers, gas workers, fire authorities and environmental health officers, there was no explanation for what happened at the village hall event in Gwynedd, North Wales."


      So, or additional, more detailed chem. investigations must be conducted there, and will reveal the presence of an sensitive birds harming chemical,
      or
      such agent, if chem., vanished fast,
      or
      it was an somehow released biological agent in the air.

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