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Virus Samples Deposited Into GenBank vs. GISAID - FluTrackers Opinion on USA gov participation - Updated

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  • 04 May 2023
GISAID in crisis: can the controversial COVID genome database survive?

The most popular repository for sharing SARS-CoV-2 sequence data has come under increasing scrutiny. Scientists and funders around the world must now consider what lies ahead for the open sharing of genome data.​

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GISAID originally intended to enforce data sharing limits only temporarily. Bogner, an entrepreneur based in Santa Monica, California, and the scientists who first presented the idea stated that the sequences submitted to GISAID would be deposited in fully open data repositories such as GenBank, “with a maximum delay of six months”.

That promise was never fulfilled, however.


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The GISAID compliance policy seems to have grey areas, which ultimately raise more questions and doubts,” wrote Scaria and Jolly in a joint statement to Nature.

The Science story describes episodes of scientists losing access to GISAID in apparent retaliation for public criticism of the platform, claims which GISAID refutes. It also discusses Bogner’s unconventional background and financial disputes with a vendor providing services to GISAID. “The revelations in the article are pretty shocking. And I do think that they highlight some real concerns about GISAID, and in particular GISAID’s governance,” says Emma Hodcroft, a molecular epidemiologist at the University of Bern.

GISAID says the organization has “never taken any retaliatory action or imposed suspensions” for any reason other than violations of its terms and conditions. It adds that its processes could be improved: “As part of our steps to address governance and operating structure, we consider it a top priority to ensure a fair process for appeals and address the concerns of our users around suspensions.”

GISAID’s governance page lists a scientific advisory council of 12 people, but it is unclear how the council operates. In practice, according to sources close to the platform, Bogner seems to make most decisions. “If you have massively important data sets that have untransparent governance structures that allow for unpredictable retaliation and erratic behaviour, that’s just not the way that a level playing field should work,” says biologist Amber Hartman Scholz, head of the science policy department at Leibniz Institute DSMZ, a collection of microorganisms and cell cultures, in Brunswick, Germany.

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What are the possible ways forward?


Despite the problems, the scientists agree that GISAID is likely to remain an important resource for viral genomes. “It’s in the best interest of public health that GISAID and the innovations it has promoted over the past years survive,” says Brito. Jeremy Kamil, a virologist at LSU Health Shreveport in Louisiana, agrees. “To lose GISAID would be unequivocally a tragedy.”

But if GISAID is to have a future, it requires drastic reform and new leadership, its critics say. “A new and transparent governance structure is required, and one that should not be at the whim of a single individual,” says Holmes. That would translate into having clear criteria on who gets access to the platform and which actions would result in sanctions.

The platform also needs to provide mechanisms for scientists submitting sequences to release their data to public-domain archives if they want to do so, says Sanderson. Furthermore, the scientists urge GISAID to acknowledge when the platform collects data from public data sets and to clearly identify those sequences. Currently, scientists who download data from multiple platforms can’t verify whether they are working with duplicate sequences.

To implement those changes, GISAID would need to ideally bring in outside experts in ethics and governance, says Kamil. That would require Bogner to “hand over the keys and back off”, Kamil says.


more....https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-01517-9

 
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I remember a long telefone call (>3h) in German
with "Meyer" or such. In 2013 or such.
Basically, he insisted that the sequences were "public"
but mustn't be published ;-)
I could join but had to sign the agreement , which
basically includes to keep sequences secret.
And somehow to talk good about GISAID,
I don't remember exactly.

He was curious about Monotreme and Salzberg, who were
critical about GISAID. They posted an article on GISAID
about Salzberg who later calle it "diatribe"
when he heard about it on twitter in 2021.
Salzberg was a founder of GISAID and not happy
that sequences were not copied to genbank as promised.
I had a small wikipedia comment about
GISAID controversy, which was edited
and removed soon later. I had the impression
GISAID wanted to know my connections, my organisation ...
luckily there was none - amateur-sequencer ;-)

However, I think that GISAID apparently became quite useful
the last years , better than genbank, with new features
to organise the data.

They could still copy the sequences to genbank
and keep some "copyright" on those features and
data presentation , why not ?!
 
FAFO Department:

Looks like there is a new database to share human virus pathogen genomic data.


"Welcome to Pathoplexus!

Pathoplexus is a new, open-source database dedicated to the efficient sharing of human viral pathogen genomic data, fostering global collaboration and public health response.

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Pathoplexus is a public pathogen sequence and metadata database built

to provide a transparent platform for sharing pathogen genome data,

to foster collaboration, empower scientific discoveries, and assist in swift public health responses,

to serve as a steward of community data, owing its utility to its users,

to operate in a transparent manner, seeking feedback from the community and welcoming both commendations and critiques,

to maximize the sharing and utility of pathogen genomic data in order to benefit research and public health."


https://pathoplexus.org/


 
New, scientist-run virus database vows to be transparently run and simple to use

Pathoplexus is starting with sequences for Ebola strains and two other risky viruses

During the COVID-19 pandemic, researchers had sharp complaints about the main database for sharing SARS-CoV-2 sequences and its overseer, a controlling, secretive businessman with no formal scientific training and a checkered past. Now, a small band of scientists has launched an open-source database for some of the world’s most dangerous viruses that they say will be run by the very researchers who sequence the pathogens and analyze their genomes.

Called Pathoplexus, the database launched this week at first will focus on the Sudan and Zaire strains of Ebola virus, as well as Crimean-Congo hemorrhagic fever virus and West Nile virus. Like similar databases, it hopes to help communities derail outbreaks before they grow, and, if that fails, better respond to epidemics and pandemics. “We believe that building trust through transparency is essential for encouraging broader participation in data sharing,” says Pathoplexus co-founder Anderson Fernandes de Brito, a computational biologist at the University of de São Paulo.

But Pathoplexus aims to stand apart in other ways—especially compared with the Global Initiative on Sharing All Influenza Data (GISAID) database, which has become a central repository of sequences for the viruses that cause COVID-19, influenza, mpox, pneumonia, chikungunya, dengue, and Zika. GISAID has been harshly criticized for concealing its finances and governance, and several scientists have complained about its founder, erstwhile businessman Peter Bogner, and his representatives reprimanding them for how they use the database and even cutting off access during disputes.

more.... https://www.science.org/content/art...base-vows-be-transparently-run-and-simple-use
 
Fresh conflicts erupt around giant database for flu and COVID-19 sequences

Critics say “autocratic” behavior by GISAID could hamper response to a future pandemic

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GISAID’s decisions have “critically diminished the world’s ability to monitor and respond to new COVID-19 variants,” Yale University disease ecologist Colin Carlson and computational biologist Timothée Poisot of the University of Montreal wrote in a November 2025 opinion piece.​

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But on 23 December 2025, Stadler and Chen took the part of the website that used GISAID data offline after the platform stopped providing updates and accused the duo of violating its terms of agreement—which the researchers deny. Two similar dashboards, Nextstrain and Outbreak.info, have also halted analyses and visualizations of GISAID data in recent months after squabbles with the platform, which has long been criticized for its opaque and erratic governance.​

more.... https://www.science.org/content/art...und-giant-database-flu-and-covid-19-sequences
 
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