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Two New Types of Swine - Testing Needed

Gert van der Hoek

In Memoriam - Editor, Senior Moderator
May be members with more scientific background than I have can comment on this letter?


Two New Types of Swine - Testing Needed

Monday, 7 September 2009, 3:59 pm
Opinion: Peter Brake

Testing For Swine Needed - Two New Types

To the Editor,

The first mutation of the swine flu happened with 36,000 people catching the disease. The second mutation 70,893 people caught the disease.

Since then, full testing has not been carried out, and we now have another two types of swine flu one in the southern United States with resistance to Tamiflu, and another reportedly placing people in intensive care as this form travels directly to the lungs causing severe illness in otherwise healthy young people.

Scientists concerns are rightfully based around the deaths from a mutation of this disease, New Zealand researchers reported that 79% of people are expected to contract the disease, or, some 5.36 billion people. If the same rate of mutation is expected that means we will experience 150 thousand mutations. We could expect half of these to be more deadly than the current outbreak. We urgently need to investigate why so many mutations are happening.

There is a piece of equipment called an electron spectrometer which can see what micro organisms are doing. I am asking the New Zealand government to buy or lease one. Some US universities currently are using them but not for this purpose.

The testing I am suggesting is on the swine flu virus itself, also mutation agents such as common soil bacteria and a selection of the human bodies’ bacteria. This is important because bacteria attempt mutation in order to eat. They do this naturally, inserting genes in order to produce proteins from which they feed. This process has been shown to have altered other species genome by 12%, over the course of time.

Current scientific research has shown that bacteria sense outside conditions and has categorised 9000 types of bacteria. Researchers estimate that there are 110 billion types of bacteria on Earth. My understanding is that with this level of competition, the surviving bacteria will have evolved to a stage where they sense opportune moments to attempt gene transfer. Such as, when they are aware of other micro organisms having achieved a successful gene insertion.

Genetic engineering employs the use of antibiotics to lower the species barrier to enable the insertion of new genes, into their targeted species. It has been found, as reported by Dr Mae Wan Ho a leader in this field working from a British university, that various antibiotics increase the chances of gene transfer (mutation) up to 10000 times. As yet no antibiotics have been banned from human treatment even though some of these people now have swine flu.

I am aware that antibiotics may destroy the gene transferring bacteria but not the swine flu itself. However, mutations can happen from heat shock and other conditions and the bacteria need not survive after transferring the gene. Please test these antibiotics under all conditions and tell our hospitals what the dangers are.

Further the genetically modified organisms that we are currently eating are likely to also be increasing mutation rates; both GMO’s and antibiotics need to be tested urgently to see what levels of mutations they are causing. Given that vaccines are a weakened virus still capable of mutation these too should be checked to see whether we are increasing or decreasing the risks from this mass medication.

What we are looking for within the experiments is the change in rate of attempted gene transfers by the bacteria. This testing should include a variety of conditions. For example; the GMO’s tested in their raw state should also be tested after being boiled. This may remove the risk of mutation and therefore the concern of food shortages.

If the 153 thousand new diseases themselves mutate at the same rate we can expect, at a minimum, a further 8 possible very different diseases. I say a minimum because I expect one of these large numbers of mutations will become the more prevalent disease. With most people contracting this new strain any variants would be a mutation of a mutation and this could take us further away from any initial immunity offered from vaccination. We could be dealing with a very different disease in very short period of time.

Due to a complete lack of action by the New Zealand government on this, I have posted my concerns on You Tube. At http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqkXgwQ33Rc. A visit to the site will increase its circulation; Send A Link To Friends And Let The People Know!

Sincerely
Peter Brake
Former management accountant
Bio Engineering Institute
Auckland University


www.scoop.co.nz/stories/GE0909/S00039.htm
 
Re: Two New Types of Swine - Testing Needed

Further the genetically modified organisms that we are currently eating are likely to also be increasing mutation rates; both GMO?s and antibiotics need to be tested urgently to see what levels of mutations they are causing. Given that vaccines are a weakened virus still capable of mutation these too should be checked to see whether we are increasing or decreasing the risks from this mass medication.

The overwhelming majority of manufactured influenza vaccines (both seasonal and pandemic H1N1 2009) are based on inactivated viruses.

These viruses aren't able to replicate because they have been damaged by subsequent passages into formalin and other techniques.

So, when inoculated, humans cannot be ''infected'' by vaccines ...
 
Re: Two New Types of Swine - Testing Needed

It appears to me that many of his references to mutations are about bacteria mutations.

If the same rate of mutation is expected that means we will experience 150 thousand mutations.
What rate?

I think a reporter mixed up statements about bacteria and applied them to viruses. Some of these statements don't make sense to me.

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Re: Two New Types of Swine - Testing Needed

same author

Accountant Peter Brake considers the potential risks to human health from the release of genetically modified organisms, in which virus and bacterial DNA has been used in the modification process.

23 July 2008
To the Editor


There have been more than a dozen pandemics since 1730. Each has been an entirely new virus, for which we had no immunity. One of the more recent pandemics, an influenza virus, while in transit between the America's and Asia was found to have mutated 8 times.
With heat shock and pollutants such as heavy metals favoring horizontal gene transfer; and the antibiotics increasing the frequency of horizontal gene transfer up to 10,000 times. We need to take another look at our worse case scenarios.
We know that -
Bacteria naturally attempt gene transfer to produce their own food.
GMO?s shed genes more readily then natural organisms.
The gene package in the GM food we consume daily, survive in human saliva for an hour.
Ingested DNA sequences large enough to contain whole genes have remained intact and entered the blood and tissues.

The bacteria Agrobacterium Tumefaciens is in all soils and is frequently used to transport the gene insertion package.

Parts of the insertion package have been found in human intestines, GMO releases were approved because reassurances were given that this would not happen.

I am asking to test Agrobacterium Tumefaciens and other typical soil bacteria, and the common bacteria we as humans carry, to see if their are increases in attempted gene transfer when in contact with GMO?s and antibiotics.


The following is a selection of mutated viruses from the last 5 years that have killed an average 25% of those infected. Notably the Nipah virus currently in Bangladesh is killing 75% of sufferers; the mutation is passed from human to human.

New viral infections transmitted between animals and human, include from pigs, goats, sheep, bats, chickens and of course rodents. The deadly chikungunya virus has traveled to India and Italy from Africa, 75% of some villages have contracted the disease.

A new cold virus killed 10 people in the United States last year. A major outbreak of febrile syndrome has mutated in Cyprus. There is an ongoing outbreak in China of an intestinal virus called enterovirus 71, or EV71. This virus causes a variant of hand, foot, and mouth disease. At least 25,000 children in China are suffering from this, and it is past from human to human.

A new flavivirus closely related to the tick-borne Kyasanur forest disease virus was isolated, in Saudi Arabia. West Nile virus has mutated and arrived in North America for the first time. This has infected 10s of thousands and killed hundreds. Bird flu, Sars and these others, are examples of viral mutations directly killing humans.

Many more mutations are infecting animals and plants alone. In New York State an epidemic has killed hundreds of thousands of 17 different species of fish. This has arrived in the Great Lakes.

Scientists are saying that the number of new viruses is unprecedented.
(Editor ? include if published separately)
Ask your MP, do genetically modified organisms increase naturally occurring bacteria attempts at gene transfer.


'Lastly, there is an urgent need to address biosecurity issues in relation to transgenic microorganisms; however, the group did not have time to address these specific issues in sufficient detail.'

Stakeholder Workshop
?Future Directions & Research Priorities for the
USDA Biotechnology Risk Assessment Grants Program?
Washington, DC
June 9-10, 2003

Presently, in the 200 million acres of GM crops planted in North America, are workers with mutated viruses, flu viruses and on antibiotics while eating their GM food. Our field tests are a support of this.

The government has been shown how to approach growing & producing GM safely indoors. We can destroy the insertion package before allowing the product into the market place. Currently no effort has been made to reduce these risks. Production increases from growing indoors proves GM releases unnecessary for the production of food.

The minister of health has informed us that we have increased our pandemic preparations because of concerns of the bird flu mutating. The minister of the environment spouts ERMA like some form of mantra.
Perhaps readers would like to e-mail the Ministers and ask them ?How many more pandemics? Or what are the risks with GM food and antibiotics? Or do bacteria attempt gene transfer more often because of GM releases? These are fundamental questions; ask why existing research into horizontal gene transfer will not answer this.

When they start talking about something else and you have reminded them of the question, and finally they refuse to answer, join me in asking them to do testing in the lab and find out.

In election year find a party that will fix this, or make one. Currently with what we do know; you do not get to survive the worse case scenario.


Peter Brake
Former Management Accountant
Bioengineering Institute
Auckland University
PO Box 131 Awanui


http://www.indymedia.org.nz/article/75669/pandemic-risk-genetically-engineering
 
Re: Two New Types of Swine - Testing Needed

Whereas on first read this sounded like someone uninformed on their soapbox confusing the issues, it now reads more to me that there are deeply technical concerns on the complexities and science of GM foods and inherent health risks, of which the implication of this piece is that GM technology might be associated with the unprecedented levels of new pathogenic types of viruses being seen. The whole concept of gene transfer from bacteria to viruses/ other organisms is new to me

Is there anyone out there who IS expert on GM engineering techniques who can a) elcuidate what all this means and b) comment on if these concerns are relevant/ valid?
 
Re: Two New Types of Swine - Testing Needed

Seems that the post #5 are on the right trail.

This #4 wroted post from 23 July 2008,
is not from a grassroot guesser, but from a former Manager (if the placed text data are genuine) of:
Bioengineering Institute
Auckland University

So, the folks there must know very much about GMO tamperings.

If we added that such changed food are inserted daily in various kinds of processed food at least in a <1% dose, example: in many world areas, when you eat a cookie, you got a GMO portion also ...

Additionaly, be prepared to have a labeled "milk'ed" made without milk, and cheese's made not from milk (the criptic gmo relation will be in microscopic signs), ..., all things waiting to be legislatory aproved (or already aproved(?)).

Could you said yummy?

Assertions of gmo qualities trespassing the presumed country fields,etc., are well documented publicly.

The microbial quality of exchange possibilities also.

So when somebody from a Biotec. Univ. Institute wrote now 7 September 2009:
#1:
"Testing For Swine Needed -Two New Types
To the Editor,

The first mutation of the swine flu happened with 36,000 people catching the disease. The second mutation 70,893 people caught the disease.

Since then, full testing has not been carried out, and we now have another two types of swine flu one in the southern United States with resistance to Tamiflu, and another reportedly placing people in intensive care as this form travels directly to the lungs causing severe illness in otherwise healthy young people."
Of course that this seems as the old story of a same strain making people at vents because the sequences not picked up a diferent strain,
but the WHO made a change about it is not neccessary to receive samples from already high infected areas, or I'm wrong(?).

So, without extensive conducted tests, maybe we must revaluate another time the recent WHO statement about the seriousness.

And maybe this folk have some additional evidence for the cited new strain,
which he are willing to share with FT (any NZ based volunteer to ask him and gather the new evidence?, or maybe his mail with attachment will be enaugh ...).

HK stil not report viral changings:
http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=124265
 
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