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Sloppy Reporting? - Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn (unsubstantiated)

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Source: http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/stand...mutated+in+London,+scientists+warn/article.do


Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn
Mark Prigg and Anna Davis
14.07.09
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London has already developed its own mutated strain of swine flu, scientists warned today.

They say the sheer number of infections in the capital has led to the virus mutating into a unique form.

According to the Royal College of GPs, about 12,500 new infections are being reported to London GPs each week.

Wendy Barclay, professor of influenza virology at Imperial College, warned that authorities needed to keep a close eye on London's infections as the virus could mutate into a faster-spreading or more harmful version.

"It is very important to keep a careful look for clusters of severe cases that might indicate that a mutated virus has arisen, which could be more virulent," she said.

However, researchers admit they do not know when this could happen.

Dr Oliver Pybus, an evolutionary biologist at the University of Oxford, said: "Predicting how the virus will mutate is rather like trying to predict the weather in several months' time - virtually impossible.

"The mutation rate of the flu virus is a million times faster than in animals, so it can change very quickly. London will have already developed its own strain of swine flu, even though at the moment it may not act any differently from the rest of the UK strains.

?However, the worry is that it could change, or that should a new, more dangerous version appear anywhere in the world, it will hit London first
because of the number of travellers passing through.?

The warning comes as new research shows swine flu penetrates deeper into the lungs and can inflict more damage than ordinary seasonal flu.

Tests on animals showed that swine flu thrives all over the respiratory system, including the lungs, and causes lesions instead of staying in the head, as seasonal flu does.

Experts also believe swine flu is closely related to the 1918 pandemic strain, which killed up to 40 million. Blood tests show many survivors seem to have immunity to swine flu.

Commenting on the research, Professor Ian Jones from the University of Reading said: ?It shows that the new virus is about five times more pathogenic than seasonal H1N1 but that, nonetheless, the major outcome is recovery.?

Experts have predicted half the UK population could contract swine flu this year and 150,000 could die ? based on figures which suggest the
H1N1 virus kills about 0.5 per cent of humans who catch it.

Virologist Nigel Dimmock, emeritus professor at the Department of Biological Sciences at Warwick University, said millions would fall ill.

He said: ?It would be reasonable to assume that half the population will get flu this year. If that's all swine flu, then that would be a hugely significant number of deaths.?

?The percentage of people killed who contract the virus is believed to be around 0.5 per cent. If half the population catch swine flu then that could mean 30 million times that percentage as a number of deaths ? it's an awful lot of people.

?Things are certainly not going to get any better by the end of the year. At the minute everyone is susceptible.?

The news comes after the recent deaths of the first victims of swine flu who were otherwise healthy.

Schoolgirl Chloe Buckley, six, from West Drayton, died on Thursday. She is believed to be the first child in Britain without underlying health problems to be killed by the virus, while
Dr Michael Day, 64, from Bedfordshire, was taken to hospital on Saturday and died the same day.

Click below to see the head's letter to parents with a picture of Chloe

An unnamed patient from Essex was the other victim. The co-ordinated national response to the virus is now in the ?treatment? phase, as opposed to ?containment?, meaning experts believe the spread of the virus is unstoppable.

Health chiefs are now working to implement a plan to vaccinate at least 30 million people by the end of the year to minimise disruption to public services and industry with people taking
time off work.
 
Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn

Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn

Sequences, please.
 
Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn

Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn

Sequences, please.
So far this is just a media report with no specifics or even hints of what changes werre seen (or were just expected to be seen based on infection frequencies).
 
Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn

Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn

Could the story above be related to this?

Hat tip Lurker


http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=115658

A sore throat ... and 48 hours later Chloe was dead: Swine flu kills healthy girl aged six and a doctor
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Chloe Buckley: Her family doctor thought she had tonsillitis

Parts of Britain are in the grip of a swine flu epidemic today after the first healthy child died of the virus that is sweeping the country.
Chloe Buckley, six, died within 48 hours of complaining of a sore throat and just a day before her seventh birthday.
She was not given the anti-viral drug Tamiflu after her doctor apparently misdiagnosed her illness as tonsillitis.
It was also announced yesterday that Dr Michael Day, a 64-year-old GP who had been treating swine flu victims, had died after contracting the virus.
Both the little girl and the doctor are believed to have been perfectly healthy before succumbing to swine flu.
Three people with no previous health problems have now died of the illness out of a total of 17 deaths across Britain.
Last night experts were reassuring the public that swine flu is no more contagious than the normal seasonal flu.
And for most of those who catch it, the illness will be mild.
'The vast majority of people will recover quickly by taking paracetamol or ibuprofen, and drinking plenty of fluids,' said Dr Laurence Buckman, chairman of the BMA's GP committee.
'We must remember that every year there are deaths from complications of seasonal flu; this is unfortunately inevitable with any strain of influenza.'*
Chloe, from West Drayton, West London, became ill on Wednesday and died on Thursday night.
Dr Day, a GP from Dunstable, Bedfordshire, died on Saturday in the Luton and Dunstable Hospital.
He is also understood to have been healthy, although a post mortem is being carried out.

So young: Chloe's family home in West Drayton, London
'Doctors have always accepted that there are risks associated with their job, Dr Buckman said.*
'Obviously these are smaller than they used to be with the advent of modern medicine, but they can never be eliminated altogether.
'It is understandable that people will be worried when they hear that a GP has died but we urge them to follow the recommended advice and contact their family doctor, rather than physically going to the surgery if they have symptoms.
'While these individual deaths are tragedies for the families concerned, it is very important that members of the public do not panic.'
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Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn

Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn

why the headline, which scientist said this ?
Nothing in the article.

"The mutation rate of the flu virus is a million times faster than in animals, so it can change very quickly. London will have already developed its own strain of swine flu, even though at the moment it may not act any differently from the rest of the UK strains.


million times faster than in animals ???
will have already developed ? So has it or has it not ?
 
Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn

Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn

Sloppy reporting. Scientists are warning of the possibility of change, not that it has already occurred.
 
Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn

Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn

Unethical media outlets stike again.

These people should feel shame in front of a population sometimes in the dark about the new influenza and the clinical patterns.

I expect more of these pieces of bad journalism in the coming days and weeks as the death toll of flu will rise all around the world.

The rise in fatal cases is certain and thus no headlines are required, in special mode if these are aimed to scare people without need.

How protect people should be the aim of all these media outlets.
 
Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn

Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn

Do you think someone here could please change to title then? My blood pressure has always been on the slightly lower side....and I'm trying to keep it that way......:)
 
Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn (unsubstantiated)

Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn (unsubstantiated)

I am reluctant to change the title of the imported article. I have, however, added 'unsubstantiated' to the title so there would be less raising of blood pressure. :)
 
Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn (unsubstantiated)

Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn (unsubstantiated)

[This news is from a secure source, The Independent. As we have seen previously by a MMWR Dispatch by T. Uyeki and other, blood clots into lungs are one of the more common complications of severe primary viral pneumonia caused by pandemic H1N1 2009 virus. Even without mutations. IOH]

UK. Swine flu GP died from natural causes - The Independent

Swine flu GP died from natural causes

By Jane Kirby, Press Association
Tuesday, 14 July 2009


Swine flu sufferer Dr Michael Day died from natural causes, a spokeswoman for Bedfordshire Police said today.

No inquest will be held into the death of 64-year-old Dr Day, who died on Saturday in the Luton and Dunstable Hospital.

Tests carried out following his death showed he had been suffering from the swine flu virus.

But a post mortem examination established he died from natural causes.

Sources said Dr Day died from a blood clot to the lungs. He also suffered from heart disease and high blood pressure, and had viral pneumonia.

It comes after the parents of a six-year-old girl who died after contracting swine flu said they were distressed at the loss of their "fun-loving baby girl".

Chloe Buckley, from West Drayton in west London, died on Thursday at St Mary's Hospital in Paddington.

A post-mortem is being carried out to establish the exact cause of her death, but it is known she had the virus.

Her parents, Michael and Jacinta, released a statement today saying they were satisfied with the medical care Chloe received and asked to be left alone to grieve.

They said: "We are obviously very distressed at the loss of our fun-loving baby girl."

''Nothing can replace her in our lives and we would plead with you to allow us to deal with our loss in private and without further intrusion.

"We have no wish to be interviewed or deal with further inquiries.

"We are satisfied that the medical care Chloe received at all times was appropriate, and are disappointed with the stories that have been printed that suggest otherwise.

"We have nothing further to say, and again request that we are left to grieve in private."

NHS Direct has dealt with more than 198,000 calls about swine flu since April 27, a spokeswoman for the service said today.

Of these calls, 56 per cent of people were given advice on looking after themselves at home, 10 per cent were given health information and 32 per cent were referred to their GP for further assessment.

More than 1.4 million people have used the online cold and flu symptom checker run by NHS Direct.

Yesterday recorded the highest number of calls about swine flu answered by NHS Direct in a single day.A total of 9,060 calls about swine flu were answered. On Sunday, 6,691 were answered and 7,213 on Saturday.

In the last week of May and June, fewer than 1,000 answered calls a day were about swine flu.
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<cite cite="http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/swine-flu-gp-died-from-natural-causes-1745976.html">Swine flu GP died from natural causes - Health News, Health & Families - The Independent</cite>
 
Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn (unsubstantiated)

Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn (unsubstantiated)

An important note on that story is that, apparently, they are making the claim that the pulmunary embolism was not due to flu/viral pneumonia.
 
Re: Sloppy Reporting? - Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn (unsubstantiated)

#1:
"Experts also believe swine flu is closely related to the 1918 pandemic strain, which killed up to 40 million."


The subsequent worsening of cases in various countries, probably drove to potential thinks of changings at the field.

If they did not conduct wide lab sampling, and we know they mainly don't (as seen for the tamiflu resistance), than they couldn't say that "below the radar" (as Dr.N. is used to say), now, there aren't mutations which pased non observed, because the cases finished milder.

Additionaly, who says that out there, in the labs worldwide, there are not other tricky sequences not released widely for published change trackings ...

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They were dig, and later resuscitate it, without make any step forward a better vaccine, so it was better they leave it burried.
 
Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn

Re: Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn

Unethical media outlets stike again.

These people should feel shame in front of a population sometimes in the dark about the new influenza and the clinical patterns.

I expect more of these pieces of bad journalism in the coming days and weeks as the death toll of flu will rise all around the world.

The rise in fatal cases is certain and thus no headlines are required, in special mode if these are aimed to scare people without need.

How protect people should be the aim of all these media outlets.

I agree.
 
Re: Sloppy Reporting? - Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn (unsubstantiated)

#15:...

At the contrary, after listen the Dr. Niman and Sharon interview,
which clearly state (if I'm not wrongly interpreted) that the Tamiflu resistant new flu viruses were present 2 months ago also (from the released sequences), we can guess now also that other changings forms now at large, but will be sensed and sequenced later.

As the public health reports couldn't be trusted at the begining of the pandemic in mex. or earlier, later also, when they assure there are no need for closings, etc., so such estabs divulgations are foged now (no proves included obviously, just a feeling).

I can't feel as mine your confidence that nothing changed, even if this news text didn't include any novel element aparently, but at the same time seems that the deaths resemble worldwide more and more the 1-2 day-die patern.

Time will say who were nearer.
 
Re: Sloppy Reporting? - Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn (unsubstantiated)

The virus is constantly changing.

A more responsible media would be nice.
 
Re: Sloppy Reporting? - Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn (unsubstantiated)

The virus is constantly changing.

A more responsible media would be nice.

It would also be nice to have adequate samples of the virus so we can see those changes.
 
Re: Sloppy Reporting? - Swine flu virus has mutated in London, scientists warn (unsubstantiated)

The virus is constantly changing.

A more responsible media would be nice.

What would even by "nicer" is the release of some sequences. That would certainly clear the air. To my knowledge we have what? One sequence from England?

Thanks for sharing and being part of the "Team".
 
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