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Mongolia recorded H3N2 Seasonal flu

Re: Mongolia recorded "unknown" influenza virus

Re: Mongolia recorded "unknown" influenza virus

Well, basically we don't know what is going on.

New flu strains pop up all the time?

IMHO it seems most likely to be a new seasonal H3N2 strain . The report said: ("no protection" this could be: "no protection from the current vaccine"?.

The report also mentioned bird flu and swine flu. This could refer to many flu strains, which are circulating in birds and swine, and last but not least: humans..... Nothing new here? The current Brisbane/H3N2 strain could also qualify as a triple reassortant strain?

Fortunately this "new" strain doesn't seem to be more virulent than an average flu strain. Well, if "average flu strains" exist .....

A new strain is not automatically a more virulent strain?

This new strain may spread or not spread. If it will spread, it may be a candidate for the next world wide flu vaccine? H3N2/Ulan Bator?

The confusion may be caused by the simultaneous circulation of the current H3N2 (Brisbane) strain.

In the end, it just could be that: Brisbane/H3N2.

We'll wait and see.
 
Re: Mongolia recorded "unknown" influenza virus

Re: Mongolia recorded "unknown" influenza virus

Dutchy said:
machinetranslation

Russian doctors will travel to Mongolia to explore a new kind of flu

December 3, 2010,

Russian doctors interested in finding in Mongolia novel influenza virus, which, according to some, like swine and avian influenza.

"No panic. But we're interested in, because it is close to our borders "- said the head of Rospotrebnadzor, chief state sanitary doctor Gennady Onishchenko.

"Our Mongolian colleagues say they have discovered the flu virus H3N2. Through the Foreign Ministry, we have requested access to clinical material, which is in Mongolia ", - said Onishchenko.

According to him, the specialists of the Russian NGO "Vector" - the regional center for the study of influenza - are going to explore a new flu, which is found in Mongolia.

"They will go to Mongolia, if we agree, and if there will be something to investigate. It is unclear what kind of flu. The clinic, he is small, unlike normal influenza. More research is needed "- said the head of Rospotrebnadzor.

In Mongolia, we found a new, unexplored by experts virus, the symptoms similar to the so-called avian and swine influenza.

"It was classified as H3N2. In Ulan Bator today registered 17 cases. It is also known that the main risk exposed young children "- delivered on Thursday channel" Stork-TV, citing the National Research Center for Infectious Diseases in Mongolia.

"Now we do not know the specific methods of protection from the virus H3N2. We believe that the main thing - it's to protect themselves from cold. It is manifested through her new infection "- said the representative of the Mongolian Center, reports "Interfax"

http://www.vz.ru/news/2010/12/3/452089.html
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Sent to ProMED.
 
Re: Mongolia recorded "unknown" influenza virus

Re: Mongolia recorded "unknown" influenza virus

I think it is very interesting that Russia is sending doctors to investigate.

Thank you to everyone for working on this.

:)
 
Re: Mongolia recorded "unknown" influenza virus

Re: Mongolia recorded "unknown" influenza virus

This is apparently nowhere near Mongolia (the other side of Russia), increasing the likelihood this is seasonal H3N2 (or at least just a drifted seasonal H3N2) and not trH3N2. Confimed trH3N2 cases require WHO notification.

Note also that there is no mention in any of these articles of statements from Dr. Onischenko, who would likely be giving press releases if novel flu have been detected in Russia.

http://www.severinform.ru/?page=newsfull&date=09-12-2010&pr=0&rg=0&newsid=122152

Russian to English translation
Thursday, December 9, 2010 1:35
HEALTH
The new strain of influenza virus was detected in the Vologda region
Growth of colds going in the Vologda region. Over the past week in the region of 10 thousand people became ill, including - seven thousand children will report IA SeverInform - News of the Vologda region, with reference to Rospotrebnadzor of the Vologda region.
In Vologda, now registered more than 2.5 thousand cases of SARS, the incidence of higher epidporoga by 2%. The situation, according to doctors, not critical. A flu epidemic is expected in late January. While in three cases revealed a new strain of the virus H3N2, basically the same Vologodians ill SARS
 
Re: Mongolia recorded "unknown" influenza virus - Confusion

Re: Mongolia recorded "unknown" influenza virus - Confusion

It seems the Russian sources are mixing up several different things. The virus in Singapore and Australia is a drift variant of Pandemic H1N1, and is not H3N2 at all. If Singapore had detected fatal trH3N2 cases, we'd know. They are also confused as to the fact that H3N2 has been a seasonal strain for the past 30 years.

http://translate.googleusercontent....le.com&usg=ALkJrhgTjOqR1xGflLVuzz0Inrv-4weHbA

Recall that in October the media were writing about a new mutation of the influenza virus H1N1. A new type of influenza (H3N2) has spread in Australia, New Zealand and Singapore. In these countries, people infected graft, and there are cases of death.

In this case, doctors had no information about whether a strain of itself is so dangerous, or some extraneous factors make people susceptible and vulnerable to the virus. Experts still do not make predictions about whether this strain is gaining force in the region.

In November, chief state sanitary doctor Gennady Onishchenko said that H3N2 does not threaten Russia. As the head of Rospotrebnadzor, H3N2 has always been a seasonal influenza strain, however, as H1N1. New - long forgotten past. Mutant virus is composed of three strains that had in 1998-1999 attempted to spread from pigs to humans. After the case of the virus circulating in pigs for about ten years. Now, it turns out, the attempt number two states Onishchenko.
 
Re: Mongolia recorded "unknown" influenza virus

Re: Mongolia recorded "unknown" influenza virus

alert said:
This is apparently nowhere near Mongolia (the other side of Russia), increasing the likelihood this is seasonal H3N2 (or at least just a drifted seasonal H3N2) and not trH3N2. Confimed trH3N2 cases require WHO notification.

Note also that there is no mention in any of these articles of statements from Dr. Onischenko, who would likely be giving press releases if novel flu have been detected in Russia.

http://www.severinform.ru/?page=newsfull&date=09-12-2010&pr=0&rg=0&newsid=122152

Russian to English translation
Thursday, December 9, 2010 1:35
HEALTH
The new strain of influenza virus was detected in the Vologda region
Growth of colds going in the Vologda region. Over the past week in the region of 10 thousand people became ill, including - seven thousand children will report IA SeverInform - News of the Vologda region, with reference to Rospotrebnadzor of the Vologda region.
In Vologda, now registered more than 2.5 thousand cases of SARS, the incidence of higher epidporoga by 2%. The situation, according to doctors, not critical. A flu epidemic is expected in late January. While in three cases revealed a new strain of the virus H3N2, basically the same Vologodians ill SARS
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> 2,500 of "SARS" that is 2% above epidemic levels is troublesome no matter what is causing it. Apparently 2/3 are children. This is unusual. Seniors should be a higher percentage.
 
Re: Mongolia recorded "unknown" influenza virus

Re: Mongolia recorded "unknown" influenza virus

Seems that seasonal H3N2 is there, but most of the ARVI is due to adenovirus.

http://www.cherinfo.ru/news/35101

The first flu arrived in Vologda, Cherepovets yet no cases have been identified, said sanitary inspectors. Nevertheless, the incidence of [ARVI] in the city reached 3,900 cases. All in all, according to Rospotrebnadzor area for the last week in Vologda registered more than 10000 cases of [ARVI], including more than 70,000 - in children up to age 14. Epidporog week exceeded by 16,2%, compared with the previous week the incidence increased by 3,7%. According to laboratory studies in three cases diagnosed influenza A/H3N2 / and 14 - adenovirus infection.
 
Re: Mongolia recorded "unknown" influenza virus

Re: Mongolia recorded "unknown" influenza virus

Perhaps this thread should now be moved out of the trH3N2 forum as it is clear from this WHO release that the H3N2 in Mongolia is seasonal, not swine.

Thank you for moving/renaming the thread.

http://www.who.int/csr/disease/influenza/2010_12_17_GIP_surveillance/en/index.html

[snip]

In Mongolia, rates of ILI have continued to rise above the seasonal baseline since mid to late November 2010 and were associated with increasing detections of influenza A(H3N2) virus, suggesting that the local winter influenza epidemic is under way
 
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