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INDONESIA - Jan 20-Feb 27, 2007: General bird flu news

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Re: Denge vs AI

Re: Denge vs AI

Dutchy, are you suggesting that AI cases may be being reported as dengue?

To what end?

If I may expand upon Dutchy response...H5N1 is often misdiagnosed during early acute phase of illness. See this quote from http://www.fluwikie2.com/pmwiki.php?n=Forum.ParisAnti-AvianInfluenza2006Conference

Herman Kosasih of NAMRU reporting on clinical and lab comparison of dengue, human flu, or avian flu in Indonesia:
H5N1 epidemiology in Indoesnia June 2005–2006
  • 532 cases: 56 confirmed + probable, 42 deaths, CFR 75%, 7 clusters
  • Median age 19, range 1.5–43 years
  • Male: Female= 1.5:1
  • 44% rural, 30% semi-rural, 26% urban
  • Most cases with poultry exposure
  • Onset to hospitalization 4.8 days
  • From hospitalization to avian influenza being suspected was 3.1 days
  • The initial diagnosis were dengue, pneumonia, typoid, and other respiratory tract infections.
  • The onset to hospitalization for dengue was 4 days, human influenza was 3.4 days, ie very similar.
  • For distinction between avian and human influenza, it was difficult until shortness of breathe happened on day 5.
  • Dengue and avian flu had similar respiratory symptoms, as well as spontaneous bleeding, so it was difficult to make a clinical distinction.
  • Complete blood count (CBC): avian flu significantly lower leukocyte, lymphocyte, and platelet than human flu, but compared to dengue, lymphocyte was lower, but platelet count was higher
  • Of the 3, H5N1 had the lowest lymphocyte count
Summary: it is difficult to distinguish AI from other endemic infections during acute illness, causing delay in diagnosis and treatment. Poultry contact, shortness of breath, serial blood counts to track leucopenia, lymphopenia, and thrombocytopenia may be useful.
<hr> Notice it took an average of 7.9 days from onset of symptoms to H5N1 infection being suspected.

Also this history lesson from 1918:
http://books.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=11150&page=60
Symptoms in 1918 were so unusual that initially influenza was misdiagnosed as dengue, cholera, or typhoid. One observer wrote, “One of the most striking of the complications was hemorrhage from mucous membranes, especially from the nose, stomach, and intestine. Bleeding from the ears and petechial hemorrhages in the skin also occurred” (Ireland, 1928:57). A German investigator recorded “hemorrhages occurring in different parts of the interior of the eye” with great frequency (Thomson and Thomson, 1934b). An American pathologist noted: “Fifty cases of subconjunctival hemorrhage were counted. Twelve had a true hemotypsis, bright red blood with no admixture of mucus…. Three cases had intestinal hemorrhage” (Ireland, 1928:13). The New York City Health Department’s chief pathologist said, “Cases with intense pain look and act like cases of dengue … hemorrhage from nose or bronchi … paresis or paralysis of either cerebral or spinal origin … impairment of motion may be severe or mild, permanent or temporary … physical and mental depression. Intense and protracted prostration led to hysteria, melancholia, and insanity with suicidal intent” (Jordon, 1927:265).
 
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