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Discussion thread III - Covid-19 (new coronavirus)

Hi,

Neophyte here. I saw the Lancet article, and the prior report from Wuhan that fatal patients had a high prevalence of hypertension.

To me, high blood pressure is common to most of the pre existing conditions: obesity, diabetes, CVD, etc. So it seems logical to do whatever one can, in this period of “calm before the storm” to dramatically improve blood pressure. That means blood pressure drugs or diet, etc.

But the ACE2 warning above, plus the info that Ibuprofen increases ACE2 activity, may mean that there’s a list of drugs that should not be prescribed for COVID. Diet and exercise is the only thing left to improve blood pressure before COVID disease begins.

Does that make sense?
 
Hi,

it’s commonly known that normal flu is already circulating. As well, spring melt is happening in the north, so moulds, bacteria, dust particles are floating around and causing bacterial upper respiratory infections.

What happens when the prior disease overlaps COVID? In other words, is it imperative for the final outcomes that the prior viral or bacterial disease, or their drug treatments, be completed before COVID starts?

Many people in the “calm before the storm” period may be slow to seek medical attention for the prior disease because they don’t want to clog the system unnecessarily. Perhaps its a better strategy to get one’s body working properly right away, before the COVID wave hits.

Thanks,

J.
 
Neither NY nor NJ have released a week 10 Influenza report yet. This is the first time in my experience that that has happened. That ILI data would be very interesting.
 
The founder and CEO of https://www.decode.com/ K?ri Stef?nsson generously offered to assist to test Icelanders for Covid19 in addition to our public health system. The public health system has concentrated on testing those with symptoms due to limited test kits (as most countries). Being an island it is easy to check on passengers coming to Iceland (flights or boats) and that is what has been done so far here in addition to mandatory quarantine of passengers from high risk countries. So far DeCode has been testing the general public and has evaluated some 700 tests in the last couple of days, half of those tests taken from people that had been abroad recently. Bear in mind that those tested do not represent the whole populations, rather people within easy access of Decode location in Reykjav?k. So far 2 have recovered in Iceland, which is not yet shown on www.covid.is and 3 are in hospital, of those one is in intensive care.

The findings are as follows:

6 tested positive, 3 with symptoms (mild, like common cold), 3 without symptoms.

2 of those positive tests were analyzed further, one, S-type was found to originate from the east cost of USA, the other, L-type originated in the Netherlands (and most likely came there from Italy).

https://www.visir.is/g/202020215d/t...il-kynna-baedi-af-brigdi-veirunnar-a-is-landi
https://www.visir.is/g/202020042d/h...sir-hinn-helmingurinn-var-med-venjulegt-kvef-
 
Curious as to whether others have a cheat sheet of dos and don'ts. For example:

- DO supplement with Vit D, particularly if you are deficient
- DON'T use aspirin or ibuprofen for fever.
- Maybe use zinc lozenges
- Maybe consider discontinuing lisinopril or losartin in favor of beta blockers or non angiotensin pathway blood pressure agents
 
So I have a question about the normal flu testing (maybe to Ronan?). Just went through a post of someone who had been possibly exposed to the COVID-19 virus. He went in at the direction of his local health department to get tested and determine if he should be tested for COVID-19. This is all after he had symptoms for several days, had been feeling better, but had found out about the exposure. They did flu test, strep test and chest x-ray on him. The flu test and strep test came back negative. Not sure how the chest x-ray turned out. They decided since he was negative for all of those they would do the COVID-19 test. That came back 5 days later and he was negative. Said the report said he had an Upper Respiratory Virus.

So my question is,is there a possibility that the uptick of ILI could be this type of virus or something similar? So would his results get logged in that graph as unidentified?

Just wondering if there is something else running around.
 
We can discuss medical reports, papers, news articles, many things. We will not answer direct questions about treatment recommendations for COVID-19.

While some of us are medical doctors, many are not.

Please do not ask us for any recommendations.

We do not know. No one knows. Medical professionals are trying some things. That is about it.

Avoid damaging your lungs.

Be your best healthy you. (and I should take that advice too! omg I am so out of shape).
 
flatlander said:
So I have a question about the normal flu testing (maybe to Ronan?). Just went through a post of someone who had been possibly exposed to the COVID-19 virus. He went in at the direction of his local health department to get tested and determine if he should be tested for COVID-19. This is all after he had symptoms for several days, had been feeling better, but had found out about the exposure. They did flu test, strep test and chest x-ray on him. The flu test and strep test came back negative. Not sure how the chest x-ray turned out. They decided since he was negative for all of those they would do the COVID-19 test. That came back 5 days later and he was negative. Said the report said he had an Upper Respiratory Virus.

So my question is,is there a possibility that the uptick of ILI could be this type of virus or something similar? So would his results get logged in that graph as unidentified?

Just wondering if there is something else running around.
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Yes, there are adenoviruses & rhinoviruses about also. One or two states actually report on those too. On one report I did see a rise in Rhinovirus that coincided with a rise in ILI, but I've looked at so many, I can't remember which state it was.
 
Really interesting - check out the comments to Supas post above Mcphilbrick. Very important that we let everyone know. It doesn't seem to be disseminating to the health care professionals as I thought it would. Let them know. Thanks for the post.
 
It would be helpful if the CDC or similar could come up with a set of such recommendations which we could then publish
 
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