CNN:Patient Zero Found?

[hawkeye]

Just saw a report from CNN (via Dr. Sanjay Gupta) about a 4 yr old boy in La Gloria that was infected with swine flu back in March. He has since fully recovered..they are claiming he may be patient zero

 

[Thornton]

Re: CNNatient Zero Found?

How is he connected with Boy A in California who developed symptoms on March 30 ?

 

[hawkeye]

Re: CNNatient Zero Found?

Good Question..

 

[Thornton]

Re: CNNatient Zero Found?

Here is the description and source

Patient A. On April 13, 2009, CDC was notified of a case of respiratory illness in a boy aged 10 years who lives in San Diego County, California. The patient had onset of fever, cough, and vomiting on March 30, 2009. He was taken to an outpatient clinic, and a nasopharyngeal swab was collected for testing as part of a clinical study. The boy received symptomatic treatment, and all his symptoms resolved uneventfully within approximately 1 week. The child had not received influenza vaccine during this influenza season. Initial testing at the clinic using an investigational diagnostic device identified an influenza A virus, but the test was negative for human influenza subtypes H1N1, H3N2, and H5N1. The San Diego County Health Department was notified, and per protocol, the specimen was sent for further confirmatory testing to reference laboratories, where the sample was verified to be an unsubtypable influenza A strain. On April 14, 2009, CDC received clinical specimens and determined that the virus was swine influenza A (H1N1). The boy and his family reported that the child had had no exposure to pigs. Investigation of potential animal exposures among the boy's contacts is continuing. The patient's mother had respiratory symptoms without fever in the first few days of April 2009, and a brother aged 8 years had a respiratory illness 2 weeks before illness onset in the patient and had a second illness with cough, fever, and rhinorrhea on April 11, 2009. However, no respiratory specimens were collected from either the mother or brother during their acute illnesses. Public health officials are conducting case and contact investigations to determine whether illness has occurred among other relatives and contacts in California, and during the family's travel to Texas on April 3, 2009.

http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5815a5.htm

 

[Tea]

Re: CNNatient Zero Found?

GhostRN posted a news article here.

http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=101284

 

[hawkeye]

Re: CNNatient Zero Found?

From April 22nd

CDC 'Concerned' After 2 California Children Come Down With Swine Flu
Wednesday, April 22, 2009
...The children were diagnosed last week. One was a 10-year-old boy in San Diego County, and the other a 9-year-old girl in neighboring Imperial County. Both recovered....

...Both children became sick in late March and experienced fever and cough. The boy also vomited.

The two had not been in contact with each other, CDC officials said....

...The boy's mother and brother also had a flu-like illness recently, as did a brother and a cousin of the girl. None of those relatives were tested for flu at the time of their illness....

...Most cases occur in people who were exposed to pigs. Neither child had touched a pig, according to their families, although the girl had been at an Imperial County agricultural fair four weeks before she got sick....

 

[AlaskaDenise]

Re: CNNatient Zero Found?

How is he connected with Boy A in California who developed symptoms on March 30 ?

Boy A from California - father works at Naval infectious disease facility in San Diego. One of friends, friends's friend, local fast food worker, etc. must have gone to Mexico, or be from Mexico. What do 10 year old boys do that would create this contact?

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[tropical]

Re: CNNatient Zero Found?

Just saw a report from CNN (via Dr. Sanjay Gupta) about a 4 yr old boy in La Gloria that was infected with swine flu back in March. He has since fully recovered..they are claiming he may be patient zero

Now (to make a grassroot supposition) if we track the Holywood scenarios, some high tech equipe of guys would come, transport he to the main facility, and start to extract from his body the blood from which, as the index 0 patient which survived thus have the antibodies onto the primary original non mutated virus, they will create the silver bullet antidote, or vacc.

From the scientific guys - any chance in this direction? ...

 

[Tea]

Re: CNNatient Zero Found?

Boy A from California - father works at Naval infectious disease facility in San Diego. One of friends, friends's friend, local fast food worker, etc. must have gone to Mexico, or be from Mexico. What do 10 year old boys do that would create this contact?

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If he is anything like my son was at 10.. TOUCH everything.. lol

 

[AlaskaDenise]

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If he is anything like my son was at 10.. TOUCH everything.. lol

yep, and NEVER wash their hands......but really - just think of all the possiblities - school, church, McD's, video store, handrails everywhere, door opening bars everywhere, elevators, movies, etc. There must have been someone among all those contacts, who had recently been in Mexico. We'll probably never find the San Diego typhoid Mary.

My son was ADD at that age - he literally touched everything!

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[Laidback Al]

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I imagine if CNN wants to retain any credibility as a news reporting media, it should make a formal correction and point out that this child, Edgar Hernandez, can not be the index case or patient 0 of this outbreak.

He is reported to have become ill on April 2 in this news article posted by Niko:http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224726&postcount=2.

As Thornton points out above, the first infected individual in the USA had an onset date of March 30, 2009, three days earlier and more than 1400 miles to the north of the home town of Edgar.

The death of the woman who died in Oaxaca also refutes the suggestion that Edgar was the first human swine flu case in Mexico.

The first publicly documented human death in Oaxaca attributable to swine flu was a 39 year old woman who died on April 13th. she was hospitalized on April 8, and had symptom onset on April 3.

. . . In this regard, a hospital worker who requested anonymity, felt it unfair that their managers are not clear on the information provided them about the case of women of 39 years who died on April 13, five days after admission, presume pneumonia.

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According to the official versions, died of atypical pneumonia, with viruses or bacteria that caused it is still unknown.

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According to the director of Promotion and Prevention Health Services Health Oaxaca (SSO), the woman was admitted to hospital with a picture of pneumonia advanced, because the symptoms were six days before admission: she had diarrhea and was detected diabetes, a disease that was never treated. . .

http://www.diariodespertar.com.mx/Agenda/8879-Tensa-calma-zozobra-privan-Hospital-Civil.html

Unless Mexican public health officials can identify some kind of personal or geographic link between 4 year old Edgar and the woman in Oaxaca, it is doubtful that Edgar infected this woman at the end of March or during the first two days of April. La Gloria and Oaxaca are more than 160 miles apart.

There must be another source of infection for the 39 year old woman who died in Oaxaca and a different index case in Meixco beside Edgar Hernandez.

 

[gsgs]

Re: CNNatient Zero Found?

hopefully we get Mexican swine sequences now
(for the first time !)

someone should have got it from a pig.
He/she may have antibodies now.
The virus must be found in pigs.

Did they import pigs from Asia recently and mix them
with Mexican pigs ?

Or maybe the virus came from USA to Mexico ?

Can the virus efficiently spread in pigs ? They must be examining this
(but won't tell us, before including delays)