EGYPT - Human and poultry samples from Qina do not match

[Theresa42]

Human and bird (poultry) H5N1 samples from Qina do not match -- Egyptian authorities + NAMRU-3 investigating.

Also, in (at least) Emad's house (the household with 3 other bf suspects who reportedly tested negative), the poultry were not found to be bf positive.

Hat-tip, pugmom!

Google-translated from Arabic:

Americans looking likely evolution of avian influenza virus in Qena
July 1, 2007

Cairo - Began on Saturday a group of members of the Organization of American (Numero 3) [NAMRU-3] analysis of samples survey to humans and birds were taken from several locations centers and villages Qena Governorate to detect the presence of the mystery of casualties avian [influenza] without there being any positive cases of bird samples being analyzed.

The team members received (Numero 3) [NAMRU-3] Friday dawn results for the analysis of samples which were sent to the organization's headquarters to conduct tests on it is not that they did not disclose the results yet also held two meetings with the two teams of veterinarians and preserved to discuss the most important features that have been observed during the sampling process for the past two months.

The team members Numero 3 [NAMRU-3] to Qena Governorate commissioned by the Minister of Health Dr. Hatem Gabali after finally notes a contradiction in human samples and the samples will be taken from birds [alt. trans. - [NAMRU-3] after notes finally there inconsistencies in samples human and the samples that be taken from birds], according to the Al-Ahram newspaper.

A source veterinarian that the emergence of cases of infection status of human beings did critics finally died and one girl Dietary Tuhami wounds healed and the other Imad Mohammed Aldermli not matched by a positive cases of bird samples that have been taken but that the situation had not died of bird promiscuity home and the lack of evidence of their presence in the house of her family.

On the other hand, medical sources said it was likely that the disease has taken sophisticated form a new special that it was unlikely emergence of cases during the summer and in particular the South at temperatures in excess of 41 degrees Celsius.

http://www.masrawy.com/News/2007/Egypt/Politics/July/1/birdflu.aspx

Related article from yesterday:
http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28399

 

[HenryN]

Re: EGYPT - Human and poultry samples from Qina do not match

Human and bird (poultry) H5N1 samples from Qina do not match -- Egyptian authorities + NAMRU-3 investigating.

Also, in (at least) Emad's house (the household with 3 other bf suspects who reportedly tested negative), the poultry were not found to be bf positive.

Hat-tip, pugmom!

Google-translated from Arabic:

Americans looking likely evolution of avian influenza virus in Qena
July 1, 2007

Cairo - Began on Saturday a group of members of the Organization of American (Numero 3) [NAMRU-3] analysis of samples survey to humans and birds were taken from several locations centers and villages Qena Governorate to detect the presence of the mystery of casualties avian [influenza] without there being any positive cases of bird samples being analyzed.

The team members received (Numero 3) [NAMRU-3] Friday dawn results for the analysis of samples which were sent to the organization's headquarters to conduct tests on it is not that they did not disclose the results yet also held two meetings with the two teams of veterinarians and preserved to discuss the most important features that have been observed during the sampling process for the past two months.

The team members Numero 3 [NAMRU-3] to Qena Governorate commissioned by the Minister of Health Dr. Hatem Gabali after finally notes a contradiction in human samples and the samples will be taken from birds [alt. trans. - [NAMRU-3] after notes finally there inconsistencies in samples human and the samples that be taken from birds], according to the Al-Ahram newspaper.

A source veterinarian that the emergence of cases of infection status of human beings did critics finally died and one girl Dietary Tuhami wounds healed and the other Imad Mohammed Aldermli not matched by a positive cases of bird samples that have been taken but that the situation had not died of bird promiscuity home and the lack of evidence of their presence in the house of her family.

On the other hand, medical sources said it was likely that the disease has taken sophisticated form a new special that it was unlikely emergence of cases during the summer and in particular the South at temperatures in excess of 41 degrees Celsius.

http://www.masrawy.com/News/2007/Egypt/Politics/July/1/birdflu.aspx

Related article from yesterday:
http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28399

I haven't seen any bird sequences from Qena (or anywhere in upper Egypt).

 

[Theresa42]

Re: EGYPT - Human and poultry samples from Qina do not match

I haven't seen any bird sequences from Qena (or anywhere in upper Egypt).

Drat.

It does say in the article:

...that they did not disclose the results yet....

 

[gsgs]

Re: EGYPT - Human and poultry samples from Qina do not match

someone make a website with a blacklisting of people,
countries,organisations who withhold sequences
and infection data !

 

[AlaskaDenise]

Re: EGYPT - Human and poultry samples from Qina do not match

someone make a website with a blacklisting of people,
countries,organisations who withhold sequences
and infection data !

We started that list here about a year ago.

.

 

[HenryN]

Re: EGYPT - Human and poultry samples from Qina do not match

Drat.

It does say in the article:

Just to expand a bit on the poultry testing (or lack there of).

HA

http://www.recombinomics.com/phylo/HA_Phylogram.html

and NA

http://www.recombinomics.com/phylo/NA_Phylogram.html

phylogenetic trees that include human and bird samples from Egypt clearly show two branches each that only have human isolates, which are the samples with the 3 BP deletion or Mongolian cleavage site (and sequences that have a reverted cleavage site but still are on the same branch).

These sequences include many of the mild cases in children in upper Egypt (predominantly Qena and Aswan). However, to my knowledge, NAMRU-3 hasn't generated 2007 poultry sequences from these areas, and matches would require some significant numbers, because in the Nile Delta, where there are human and poultry matches, many poultry sequences do not have a reported human counterpart, and this has been seen in many countries.

Thus, although an alternate reservoir may be an issue, there is no hard data to support an alternative reservoir because these distinctive sequences have not been found elsewhere, and there is little if any poultry sequence data from upper Egypt.

 

[Theresa42]

Re: EGYPT - Human and poultry samples from Qina do not match

Hat-tip, UK-Bird!

Google-translated from Arabic:

There is no evidence so far to turn avian influenza virus
July 3, 2007

Dr Hatim al-Jabali, Minister of Health and Population that there is so far no evidence to alter virus disease avian flu, the disease is still moving between infected birds to humans.

The minister pointed out after a meeting of the Higher Committee on the fight against the disease to the emergence of 3 cases of the human disease in Qena, one of Upper Egypt with a high degree Hararha requires work on the revision of the possible presence of virus in high temperatures and this Mayakev by experts from the Ministry of Health and WHO in their studies.

The meeting of Ministers of the Environment and Local Development, 7 governors of Cairo and Giza and Qalubiya, Eastern and Western, Menoufia, Fayoum and representatives of the Ministries of Agriculture and Interior and the armed forces.

The minister said that the mortality rate among infected humans is still less than the global hitting percentages in Egypt 41% versus 60% global average, citing the minister agreed, saying that the total cases since the disease was screened in February of last year amounted to 37 cases, 22 of which recovered and died 15 cases, most were reported in time late or not to deny mingles of birds infected.

Asked about the deployment of injuries Qena disease confirmed that the infection was due to Mkhalttha of infected birds and not published as it is not mixing of birds infected this has been confirmed by the central ministry labs.

The minister stressed the commitment fully transparent about this disease and this is a ministry and all concerned and this is what President Mubarak demanded by the disease since the entry of the country in February last year and full openness of the masses developments disease.

Said Dr. Abdel Rahman Shahin spokesman of the Ministry of Health after the meeting that the property is still property Altamvelo [Tamiflu] effective and only recognized by the World Health Organization cure for the disease and that there are some medical products are used to treat cases infected by the disease to drug Altammivlo [Tamiflu], has given good results for the treatment of the girl child infected in Qena, but still being evaluated and studied in collaboration with the World Health Organization.

The spokesman noted that education of household birds still represents dangerous spread of the disease since all farms under the complete control of where and immunize all poultry, and as of last June 1200 appointment veterinarian been deployed in the provinces to support veterinary activity.

Source: Al-Ahram newspaper

http://www.egypty.com/people-talk-details.aspx?people_talk=557

 

[Theresa42]

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Asked about the deployment of injuries Qena disease confirmed that the infection was due to Mkhalttha of infected birds and not published as it is not mixing of birds infected this has been confirmed by the central ministry labs.

Alt. trans. of that sentence:

And around what was deployed around Qina injuries by the disease, it [he] confirmed that its [their] injury is related to its [their] mixing of injured birds, and it is not, as was published, that it is not mixing with injured birds -- this what the central laboratories confirmed in the Ministry.

In other words, the Health Minister is saying that the rumors that the bf patients in Qina did not contract bf from poultry (or that bf had not been found in poultry) are untrue.

 

[HenryN]

Re: EGYPT - Human and poultry samples from Qina do not match

The sequences from the 10F fatal case in Qena has been decribed

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/06120701/H5N1_Qena_Cluster.html

 

[Theresa42]

Re: EGYPT - Human and poultry samples from Qina do not match

Human and bird (poultry) H5N1 samples from Qina do not match -- Egyptian authorities + NAMRU-3 investigating.

Also, in (at least) Emad's house (the household with 3 other bf suspects who reportedly tested negative), the poultry were not found to be bf positive.

Hat-tip, pugmom!

Google-translated from Arabic:

Americans looking likely evolution of avian influenza virus in Qena
July 1, 2007

Cairo - Began on Saturday a group of members of the Organization of American (Numero 3) [NAMRU-3] analysis of samples survey to humans and birds were taken from several locations centers and villages Qena Governorate to detect the presence of the mystery of casualties avian [influenza] without there being any positive cases of bird samples being analyzed.

The team members received (Numero 3) [NAMRU-3] Friday dawn results for the analysis of samples which were sent to the organization's headquarters to conduct tests on it is not that they did not disclose the results yet also held two meetings with the two teams of veterinarians and preserved to discuss the most important features that have been observed during the sampling process for the past two months.

The team members Numero 3 [NAMRU-3] to Qena Governorate commissioned by the Minister of Health Dr. Hatem Gabali after finally notes a contradiction in human samples and the samples will be taken from birds [alt. trans. - [NAMRU-3] after notes finally there inconsistencies in samples human and the samples that be taken from birds], according to the Al-Ahram newspaper.

A source veterinarian that the emergence of cases of infection status of human beings did critics finally died and one girl Dietary Tuhami wounds healed and the other Imad Mohammed Aldermli not matched by a positive cases of bird samples that have been taken but that the situation had not died of bird promiscuity home and the lack of evidence of their presence in the house of her family.

On the other hand, medical sources said it was likely that the disease has taken sophisticated form a new special that it was unlikely emergence of cases during the summer and in particular the South at temperatures in excess of 41 degrees Celsius.

http://www.masrawy.com/News/2007/Egypt/Politics/July/1/birdflu.aspx

Related article from yesterday:
http://www.flutrackers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=28399

Alternate machine translation of this article.

Sounds like it is specifically the samples from Mayyada (died) and Emad (not related, as far as I know) that do not match the samples from poultry. Also, Mayyada apparently did not have any contact with poultry -- at least according to this source.

I didn't realize Mayyada and Emad were from nearby villages/towns. I'll do up a map in a sec.

The Americans discuss the probability of the development of the bird flu virus in Qina
July 1, 2007

Cairo - Started Saturday a team from the members of the American organization (Nmrou is 3) [NAMRU-3] the analysis of cadastral [swab] samples of humans and birds have been taken from several sites in districts and Qena Governorate villages for the disclosure of riddle human injuries presence by the bird flu is without that there are positive conditions to the birds samples that is being analyzed.

Team members (Nmrou is 3) [NAMRU-3] have received Friday dawn results for the analysis of samples that has been sent to the organization headquarters for holding the examinations on it, nevertheless they did not reveal its results yet as held two meetings with two teams from the human and veterinarians for the discussion of the most important features that has been observed during the samples taking operation throughout the two last months.

Nmrou's [NAMRU's] team members have reached to Qena Governorate by the command of the Minister of Health, Doctor Hatem Gabali, after they notice finally the presence of a conflict [inconsistencies] in the human samples and the samples that is being taken from the birds, as they mentioned the Al-Ahram newspaper.

And a veterinary source mentioned that the appearance of human injury conditions by "its critics" [town in Qina] position finally was dead one of it and she is the child Mayyada and the other was cured Emad Mohamed Al Daramalli -- that the presence of positive cases did not face to the birds samples that have been taken but that the condition that was dead [Mayyada] was not mixing with house birds and the non certainty of their presence inside their family house.

And on the other hand medical sources preferred that the disease has taken a new advanced form specially that it is unlikely the appearance of injury cases through the summer and in particular in a region in south of Upper Egypt that the heat increases them on 41 Centigrade.

http://www.masrawy.com/News/2007/Egypt/Politics/July/1/birdflu.aspx

 

[Theresa42]

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And a veterinary source mentioned that the appearance of human injury conditions by "its critics" [town in Qina] position finally was dead one of it and she is the child Mayyada and the other was cured Emad Mohamed Al Daramalli....

Map. Mayyada was from Danfiq, Qina. Emad is from El-Ausat Qamula, Qina.